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First off, let me say that i'm no fan of Apple and I really can't stand Steve Jobs. Yes, i've bought his products, but I hate being told what to do once I give him my money. I like customization. I like options. Hence, I do not like Steve Jobs.
I was very excited about the Xoom. I checked online every day for information about it since it's announcement. I had very high expectations and, even though the price tag was higher than I wanted to pay, I was the first to buy it at my local Best Buy.
Now, with that being said. I'm coming up on my 14 day return policy and am debating if I should keep it. I am new to this forum and have been reading through all the threads and learned a lot. However, in my learnings, I have also found things that concern me.
To start, let me tell you why I bought it. I had an iPad before and I mainly used it for online browsing around the house. For movies when I go on trips. And I wanted to use the Xoom for all of that, but also as my work and personal organizer. For easy access to business plans and work integration.
Here's where I'm having problems. If these are things that I should expect to be fixed with updates over time, then great. If not, then I'll have to find another option.
1) The Tegra Processor. I read on here that the Tegra Processor is what is preventing the Xoom from playing my divx movies. Now, I have gotten them to work on RockPlayer. But it has that watermark in the top left hand corner and my status bar at the bottom of the xoom never fades out. Also, and this is the biggest problem, the quality doesn't look good. It looks like their is a subtle light grid in the background. Almost like the original LCD's you saw in airports back in the day. When I first heard about the Tegra issues, I was just going to return the Xoom and get another Honeycomb tablet, but then I saw that all of the Android Tablets will have one.
2) The Browser. I did the trips where you go into debug mode and tell the Xoom to view all webpages in Desktop mode, but there are still a few sites that will only show me the mobile mode. Also, I like to have my bookmarks sorted by the order in which I visit them, yet the Xoom seems to randomly organize them for me. Kinda annoying.
3) Accessories. The only thing that I loved about my iPad was not the unit, but the Apple portfolio case. The motorola porfotlio case is just bulky, scratches the unit, and the latch is loose at best. I've found some nice leather cases online, but none that fold over and cover the screen. Yes, I have a screen protector. But, even those I can't find a good one with anti-glare.
4) eMail. I use exchange and apparently my work email is one of the ones that won't work on the xoom. I had to get Roadsync, which is okay, but I just prefer to use the default, integrated email/contacts/calendar programs. My EVO is perfect for this.
5) Widgets. Seriously, what's the deal with having cell phone sized widgets on a 10.1" screen. LauncherPro is nice, but still has custom icons like it's a phone, which I find to be in the way.
I know that most of these things seem small. But when you drop $800 on a device because you expect atleast the same functionality as your smaller cell phone, you come to have higher standards. I knew about Flash and the SD card issue going in, but the rest is bothersome. I know i'm an early adapter and with that comes quirks.
In any case, you all are 1000x smarter than me with this thing. I will take whatever advice you have.
1. Touchdown for tablets is great for email.
2. Some sites might not have updated their pages yet.
3. Apple always gets the third party love but more and more products are coming online everyday check Amazon
4. Being this is Google's flagship devise you have to believe this will be supported with updates and the file types should change
OK, first off, I agree with alot of what you have said, your right the software is a bit buggy at this time, again at this time. What you have to consider is that that this is an android device, and by that I mean it does not have all the overage that alot of companies put out on top of the overall software that make it look nice and neat, to include custom apps and infrastructure, but this also means that it is much easier to update. Half the time lost between when an actual Android update comes out and the time it takes for your device to get that update is due to all the crap that the company puts on top of the original Android infrastructure.
Give it a bit of time and I am sure that most of your problems can be worked out to you satisfaction due to them being software and not hardware problems.
Also take into account that since Motorola chose to use this clean interface it makes it much easier to modify by the hacking community , which is definitely something that an iPad cannot due.
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virgil1528 said:
1) The Tegra Processor. I read on here that the Tegra Processor is what is preventing the Xoom from playing my divx movies.
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Any CPU/GPU can play video so long as it supports the right codecs. Have you tried transcoding to a supported codec?
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1. Touchdown for tablets is great for email.
2. Some sites might not have updated their pages yet.
3. Apple always gets the third party love but more and more products are coming online everyday check Amazon
4. Being this is Google's flagship devise you have to believe this will be supported with updates and the file types should change
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Well said.
+1 for Touchdown. It is fantastic for exchange, I use it on both my Evo and Xoom.
If this wasn't a Google Experience device, I'd say your complaints would carry more weight.
However, Google has always done a good job of keeping their GE devices updated and at the forefront.
This device only just came out, I'm fairly sure they will get things handled fairly quickly.
As far as the apps/widgets go. This is still a new device and platform. All android tablets are going to suffer from the same right now. However...again... this issue is largely due to the limited time the device/platform has been available. Within a few weeks...I'm sure we'll see a lot more apps/widgets (even the ipad had limited selection out right). Just think of what it'll be like in a couple of weeks/months with more custom apps/roms/kernels etc...
I had buyers remorse for the first evening...not for any particular reason...and now I can't put it down. Not to mention my wife (who has an iPad), won't shut-up about when she is getting her Xoom
So I would say hang on to it, but that's just me. Do what makes you happy
I've come to the decision that I'll be taking mine back on the 13th day.
I've tried to really give it love and get use out of it, but tablets just don't really fill any niche except "web browsing on the couch".
I'm a sysadmin by day, and although I've carried the Xoom with me every time I step away from my desk, it just hasn't served a single purpose on the job. I had imagined it would be neat to dial into servers using RDP, but the interface is just horrible. I'm much better off just dialing into the server in question at any desk I'm in front of. I'm never more than 8-12 feet from a desktop machine, so there goes that.
Pulse news reader is basically the killer app, but is hardly worth 1000 (799 + tax + extra charger + 129 protection plan against drops for 1yr + case).
Motorola certainly hasn't won me over on the price especially considering I prepaid for it on the first day I could (at two different best buys just to cover bases), and then people who *DIDN'T* do that had a chance at 200 dollars off that was honored in the end. Ridiculous.
I had intended to pick up android development for tablets eventually, but I can hold off and stick with honing my Python until these come way down in price or offer some more functionality.
That's too bad, this has taken over as my laptop and let's me have a mobile office so to speak
For RDP I use Remote RDP light and it works credibly, but if your looking for true RDP functionality then you have to have a mouse and keyboard, and guess what, you bought a tablet with a touch screen interface, you can buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse if you want, but that just means more devices to carry around. A tablet, any tablet, will not be the proper interface for RDP, it can't, it is not a PC with all the perifials. A tablet, as far as RDP is concerned, is a device to do what you have to do when a PC is not around and a cell phone is impractical. As a network administrator I can do some of the emergency things that I need to accomplish while out on the town with my tablet, reading a book, surfing the web, commenting on a blog, watching a movie, all without lugging a laptop.
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Yeah, unless you wanted to leave the mouse and just use the tablet as a touch screen with a keyboard your better off with a laptop. But like you said in a pinch its tough too beat
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For RDP I use Remote RDP light and it works credibly, but if your looking for true RDP functionality then you have to have a mouse and keyboard, and guess what, you bought a tablet with a touch screen interface, you can buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse if you want, but that just means more devices to carry around. A tablet, any tablet, will not be the proper interface for RDP, it can't, it is not a PC with all the perifials. A tablet, as far as RDP is concerned, is a device to do what you have to do when a PC is not around and a cell phone is impractical. As a network administrator I can do some of the emergency things that I need to accomplish while out on the town with my tablet, reading a book, surfing the web, commenting on a blog, watching a movie, all without lugging a laptop.
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Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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I don't imagine I'll walk away and never look back, but now I know what they're good for (and not good for) and when the price wars drive these down to 400ish I'll scoop one up again. : /
Not all tablets are create equal, and sometimes it takes having one first hand to validate all the information out there and how it applies to your situation
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I don't imagine I'll walk away and never look back, but now I know what they're good for (and not good for) and when the price wars drive these down to 400ish I'll scoop one up again. : /
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Return your Xoom and buy it in 6 months for cheaper price
Or probably there will be a new kind of better Honeycomb tablet at that time.
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Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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codeman05 said:
Well said.
+1 for Touchdown. It is fantastic for exchange, I use it on both my Evo and Xoom.
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I downloaded the free version of Touchdown this morning after reading this thread. Could you explain to me why it is so great? I haven't had time to use it extensively but maybe you can quickly list some advantages over the stock mail client?
Thanks!
I understand your frustration and you ultimately need to do what makes you feel most comfortable. Most of your issues are software related and you know things can only get better with updates. Google has a lot riding on Honeycomb so I expect updates to come fast and often.
1) The Tegra Processor - Seems like your issue is not with the Tegra but with how the codecs handle Divx. Software update could fix this but also developers can do wonders.
2) The Browser - Software update again. The browser is a great starting point and, with some minor tweaks, will be fantastic.
3) Accessories - As more Xooms sell, more 3rd parties will have a business case to make accessories for it. I'm thinking that when the Xoom wifi and Xoom for Europe are released (indications say that will happen at the same time) then we'll see a flood of new 3rd party goodies.
4) eMail - Software update. ALTHOUGH, I'm not 100% sure this is a priority for Google. People complain that they wish the AOSP phones went a step further with their Exchange implementations. Still, the chances are you'll be ok moving forward.
5) Widgets - This is a microcosm of the entire app market right now for Honeycomb. Devs need to start updating their apps with Tablets in mind. Again, more people owning Honeycomb, more reasons for devs to get on it.
The point I'm trying to make is the only way for the Xoom to go is up. As more people buy, more attention the aftermarket will pay to it. If previous Android versions are any indication (and they are,) this is a snowball effect. It'll just get bigger and bigger.
As to the RDP: I use the XtraLogic Remote Desktop app and it works wonderfully, completed designed around the touch interface.
Between Remote Desktop and ConnectBot, I've found a million uses for this as a sysadmin. I don't know how you haven't found a single use for it.
I'm looking to buy a Xoom when they're released in the UK, primarily as a netbook replacement for when I'm travelling overseas with work. Having never had an android phone I'm unsure of the options available for reading/writing Microsoft Office files such as Excel, Word and PowerPoint. Does anyone use their Xoom for editing these types of files? I could probably get away with some basic editing capability.
Thanks.
I use OfficeSuite Pro on my Desire HD and it works well with Office 2010 docs and previous. Don't know how it works on the Xoom yet as, like you, I'm awaiting the UK launch.
Thank you, I'll look into that then and in the meantime will appreciate comments on experiences so far from users with Xoom in hand.
Office use was one of my primary objectives too but so far I have been let down I bought Documents to Go since it has Word/Excel/PowerPoint capabilities but they are mediocre at best. PPT in fact is crap. But I will give the developers some time to realize that the Android tablet market is indeed worth developing for; after all, no company will invest time and money into a product that is brand-spanking new and still half-baked. Soon they should realize that the Honeycomb OS has a big follower crowd and then they'll port the mobile phone apps to a tablet (HD) version. Just hang in there but don't expect changes within a few weeks, i.e. don't trash your netbook quite yet!
From memory there's QuickOffice, Docs to Go, Office Suite, and another that I can't remember the name of that all (i think) claim to be able to edit and create office docs...
Haven't got my xoom yet so I haven't tried any with the xoom I'm afraid.
I think some sort of Lite version of QuickOffice comes pre-installed. Not sure it allows for editing though. The PPT application beats the paid Doc2Go though.
Thanks all for your responses.
Slightly worrying but not a deal killer, who wants something that works out of the box! I'm sure it will be sorted out soon, the way Xoom is touted as the grown up business users choice.
for me. I use the paid version of Docs to go. It's ok, like funnycreature said. Not perfect and PPTs definitely need work. there is a quickoffice application installed which will only open when you're opening a office document (via email, dropbox, etc). There's no way to start a new document. I believe there was an apk circulating though at one point.
Long story short, it's good enough for some very basic editing. I RDP'd once to do some real editing in powerpoint.
I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with Android. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.
Reason #1, it gets you away from Kool-Aide drinking mac-bots who think everything has to be white.
Anyone else have a constructive response?
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I want to hear from Xoom users some advantages on getting the Xoom. I currently have an iPad 2 and it's cool but there is no JB for it yet. I saw some articles on Google IO today and was amazed at the USB host support which would make it awesome for emulators.
What are some advantages you guys think would be? I currently own an Evo so I'm familiar with the Evo. I'm more interested in knowing the cool things you can do with it. I found someone in CL who is interested in trading his Xoom for my iPad 2. Thanks.
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Those of us who show our loyalty to google will be rewarded with land and women once the takeover is complete.
Additionally, flash is neat, USB hosting, I'm fairly siked about google music. Greater customization. I'd wait to see how 3.1 runs but it looks very promising in the dev notes.
you are not bound to itunes, you can customize your UI, your notifications wont interrupt you, its positioned to be compatible with a ****load of other devices, hdmi ready, amazon and sony love android
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How is that not contructive? Apple confines you to their standards. Time to open up and do what the user wants to do....Coca-cola taste a ton better than Kool-Aide
Best advice I can give you is just read the reviews and see if you like it. Seriously read up.
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Upcoming ice cream sandwich!
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http://cameradojo.com/2011/04/20/my-take-on-android-tablets-vs-ipad/
dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.
Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.
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dunno why you need convincing ... just check out the features and play with one at a best buy.
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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.
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Is Google Body available for the Xoom? I'm interested in that. I'll still have my 1st gen iPad so I don't mind trading it in. Are their any cool things you can do with it like connecting bluetooth devices, etc?
One thing I hate about the iPad 2 is the camera. I took a picture of my daughter up close and it was so blurry I thought she was a UFO. I think it's rated at under 1MP.
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see, something you could have easily checked online Google Body is one of the "made for Honeycomb" apps. It was released along with the XOOM.
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I played with one at Best Buy but it was molested beyond recognition. There was so much stuff scattered all over the screen I didn't have the patience to look through it. I wanted input from someone who owns it and has played with it for over a month.
Are the apps catching up? What I mean by this is are there a lot of tablet apps out yet or just phone apps.
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Plenty of tablet apps and "tegra HD" apps available.
Also, pretty much every app I've tried that didn't specify Honeycomb support worked anyways. the "HD" games are spectacular (youtube "pinball HD honeycomb" ... it's 2.99 USD (2.84 CDN haha) and it rocks.
multitasking, much better webexperience than safari, flash support
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Starting a thread like this is just to fan the flames of fanboyism. Don't come on this forum and try to stoke fires. Go try them out and make your own decisions.
I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom
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I actually purchased the Ipad 2 and received it about 2 weeks ago. It took me less than a week to call Apple and request and return package. I then went into Best buy and purchased a Xoom.
Here are the reasons why:
- FLASH: I watch videos online all the time, and most of them are sites that use flash
- Being able to just download a mp3, an image, or even videos right from the browser and save it wherever I want to
- Being able to open the downloaded file with the app I want
- Being able to connect my Xoom to my PC at work and transfer whatever file I want
- Being able to customize my homescreen to my liking
- Notifications
- Widgets (I just hated that fact that I always had to go to the settings to activate bluetooth or wi-fi for example
- Now with Honeycomb 3.1 announced, I'm really not regretting buying the Xoom
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Thanks. I'm going to pull the trigger and do the trade. I still have an iPad 1st gen so I can fall back on the apps I love like Netflix. Hopefully they hack other OS's on the Xoom like Linux. Thanks for all the positive responses from the few of you who weren't just looking to increase your post count.
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In short, it's not quite a slick as the iPad 2 and there are nowhere near enough tablet specific apps, but imo the browser is better, it's more customizable, google maps is far better as is the multi-tasking. But you should know that HD videos will require re-encoding due to the Tegra2 chip and it's limitations.
I think the biggest reason you have already mentioned in your post.
Jail-break.
iPad2 is a Jail. It needs to be broken.
I used to be an iPhone user (3GS and 4G).
I am sick of being told you should do things this way and if you don't , you are screwed.
Xoom and all other android device brings me "freedom" in what I OWN.
Specifically in terms of functions
0. Flash
1. You get much better camera (5mp back, 2mp front facing)
2. You have the rights to root it, install customized roms/themes
3. You can install third party apps freely.
4. You can flash kernels to overclock your CPU to 1.5Ghz while iPad 2 is stuck at 1G max
5. You have strong Dev community to create stuff. as long as there is a need. Apparently it requires certain level of computer proficiency but from what you mentioned, you definitely have it.
6. You have google rolling out more and more exciting updates and with an open source concept, the market share of Android will bypass iOS by much and developer community will definitely notice this part of the market and create apps (commercial apps) around it.
7. many apps you know what is going on because you can see source code.
8. To someone who may worry that iPad apps are more than Honeycomb apps, I think at the current rate of brining new apps to platform, it wont be a problem a few months later at all.
9. Oh, you can install and dual boot Ubuntu in it.
Coming from iPad, I have realized that there isn't a single PDF app that does 3 things:
1) designed natively for tablets
2) annotates
3) performs index search
Has anybody worked with iAnnotate in here? And if so do you have any suggestions for alternative that I have missed. And no I don't want to hear repligo or ezpdf...
[email protected] said:
Coming from iPad, I have realized that there isn't a single PDF app that does 3 things:
1) designed natively for tablets
2) annotates
3) performs index search
Has anybody worked with iAnnotate in here? And if so do you have any suggestions for alternative that I have missed. And no I don't want to hear repligo or ezpdf...
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I never use any of the features you mention anyway I think repligo does this. Its paid.
repligo doesn't do 1 and 2.
Have you tried it? Dev says it does...I tested it myself and latest version works great on tablets as well as adding notes, bookmarks, searching for keywords etc.
By the way ezPDF also supports annotation. Sorry, "you don't wanna here about these two". Don't have an exact idea what a "natively developed for tablets" app should be but I could hardly think of additional features with these...and they both work perfect on Iconia.
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Have you tried it? Dev says it does...I tested it myself and latest version works great on tablets as well as adding notes, bookmarks, searching for keywords etc.
By the way ezPDF also supports annotation. Sorry, "you don't wanna here about these two". Don't have an exact idea what a "natively developed for tablets" app should be but I could hardly think of additional features with these...and they both work perfect on Iconia.
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Then the developer lied to yu because I did try bth ezPDF and repligo. A natively developed app should be one that uses standard 10 inch display to interact with the end user. For example
file manager HD, file station but not documents to go.
Both repligo and ezPDF have phone interferace and none of them do index searching. Compared to iAnnotate the above 2 apps are pathetic to say the least. I am willing to pay big bucks for a professional app. I guess I'm gonna have to use my girlfriends iPAD to do my school work.
why not stick with the iPad if that's a feature so important to you? I'm not being sarcastic or anything, but I'd choose the device that suits my usability above anything else.
or go buy something like the flyer lol
I use adobe reader, ezpdf, repligo, and I find them working very well for many of the functions you talk about.
I think you might want to contact the devs for more information.
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Then the developer lied to yu because I did try bth ezPDF and repligo. A natively developed app should be one that uses standard 10 inch display to interact with the end user. For example
file manager HD, file station but not documents to go.
Both repligo and ezPDF have phone interferace and none of them do index searching. Compared to iAnnotate the above 2 apps are pathetic to say the least. I am willing to pay big bucks for a professional app. I guess I'm gonna have to use my girlfriends iPAD to do my school work.
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Oh no...please don't threaten to use the iPad! We will all be so ashamed because we care so much! But seriously, repligo does appear to do what you ask. It is, in fact, phone-optimized. I'm sure they will be releasing a tablet-optimized version soon since the app is pretty popular. All it takes is a little patience.
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Oh no...please don't threaten to use the iPad! We will all be so ashamed because we care so much! But seriously, repligo does appear to do what you ask. It is, in fact, phone-optimized. I'm sure they will be releasing a tablet-optimized version soon since the app is pretty popular. All it takes is a little patience.
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No it doesn't. It does not support indexed searching. Without that it takes 10 minutes to search within PDF.
As I pointed out several times, none of those apps are designed for tablet.
And I am not threatening to buy iPad2, instead one of your members suggested that I do. I think he was very sincere in his suggestion and there is nothing wrong with that. While I understand that many people in here are hardcore droid fans and obviously there a bunch of apple fanboys out there too but Im neither of them. I am looking for a device that is most capable. I thought droid was one of them but at this stage obviously I am mistaken. One of two things will happen. 1) droid will get more professional apps out there. 2) im gonna go back to apple. Nothing personal.
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No it doesn't. It does not support indexed searching. Without that it takes 10 minutes to search within PDF.
As I pointed out several times, none of those apps are designed for tablet.
And I am not threatening to buy iPad2, instead one of your members suggested that I do. I think he was very sincere in his suggestion and there is nothing wrong with that. While I understand that many people in here are hardcore droid fans and obviously there a bunch of apple fanboys out there too but Im neither of them. I am looking for a device that is most capable. I thought droid was one of them but at this stage obviously I am mistaken. One of two things will happen. 1) droid will get more professional apps out there. 2) im gonna go back to apple. Nothing personal.
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Dear matt, if you bought the Iconia why don't you write to the developers of one or both of these apps - it takes less that a minute. Until now I have always got a productive feedback every time I contacted a dev. I don't believe the feature you are asking for is so hard to implement. Good luck!
Anyone using your TF in ministry? Particularly in preaching or teaching! If so what programs are you finding useful?
if you consider showing off how android is better and more useful than iOS to Apple fans as preaching or ministry (honestly its not far off!!), then yes I do!
Haven't worked on it much lately, but I started writing a tablet optimized Bible app when I first got the Transformer. At the time there wasn't really anything available that took advantage of the tablet real estate. Search Bible by bedoig in the market.
I haven't looked for good tablet bible apps in a long time. I'd be interested what people are using these days as well.
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Logos has an app that allows me to access my Logos collection from the tablet.
If one does not have Logos (ridiculously expensive! I bought it in seminary many many years ago.) then a good and more affordable alternative is Olive Tree:
I use Kingston office of the stock reader to view the sermon while preaching saving many trees....
Blessings
RevJonG
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Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.
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Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.
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I have also been considering the iPad 3 but as you said I really don't want to. My son has an iPad2 and he is using it in ministry and currently using it while preaching or teaching. I have not gotten that comfortable with my TF but I would like to use it more effectively in ministry.
It's not sounding like much has changed since the last time I looked. I like YouVersion on my phone but found it lacking on a tablet. I've looked at Logos and Olivetree in the past as well but they weren't really what I was looking for.
The main reason I started working on one was to have a built in notes pane alongside the bible. I also added scripture identification within the notes to automatically create hyperlinks that open that section of the bible when clicked. I'm not a minister so I was more focused on the note taking scenario, but several ministers have told me they have found it useful.
Might just have to start working on it again since it doesn't seem like the options have improved much.
I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I spend a lot of time at my laptop for work, the dropbox app has been great for syncing my documents between my laptop and my transformer.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
There are some excellent pdf viewers out there, but I simply open my messages up with the Kindle app when I'm teaching/preaching. I prefer the swype or tap to navigate vice any scrolling.
I use Cloudprint to print from my tablet when necessary. I used to have a paper copy of my message as a backup just in case something... ahem... went wrong. However, now I just keep my Bible with me and I can pull off a sermon or teach from a prior study in an emergency.
I've added folders to my tablet to keep finished sermons/lessons by using ES File Explorer app (allows folders & shortcuts).
I've changed some of the icons out using ADW Launcher Ex to pretty things up a bit and further customize.
It's quite fun actually. We've got a good sized church 700 folks, so our platform is filled with iPads each service. I'm one of the few with a non iPad tablet but I'm certainly not complaining. LOL!
Hope this helps.
There may be more, but I'm still learning how to get good use out of the TF myself.
I use OliveTree
I do not preach often, but do enjoy OliveTree for my main Bible app. Great for Bible studies as it can have a synced comentary right on screen at the same time as the Bible. Very helpful when someone asks a question about a more elusive verse.
I used a mindmap in the Thinking Space app to preach a sermon when i left my hard copy at home. Went well and no-one noticed.
I only take my Tab to meetings and use calendars and Thinking Space to record notes or decisions.
Use Cardre Bible NRSV
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Also finding that i am leaving the notebook at home and taking the tablet. Just seem to be transitioning to a new mode.
I have orders of service and planning material in a dropbox that i share with a music and worship group. When near wifi it syncs to tablet. Thinking of implementing wifi in church facilities.
I am using more ad more ebooks and also working towards a paperless office. I am scanning articles and important sections of books and having them available with me. It is greatvfir reading/preparing on public transport or while waiting somewhere.
At the home office I can use tablet to read ebooks or pdf docs like a second screen as I prepare oos or sermon.
I am also a psychologist and have a folder for each client. Test and reports are at hand where-ever I am. Have used it when doctors call to check details.
I have parish directory in word format and in dropbox. I can quickly find an address when on the road and have used googlemaps to find my way. Also fiund that i can tap a phone number on my phone and instantly dial.
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There is an app called cam scanner, great at scanning in docs, pictures, whiteboard sessions, etc. and also syncs with dropbox.
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The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.
ezPDF might be helpful if you have PDFs of the books/book you need for the things you preach. You can even leave notes on the margin in ezPDF - that might be usefull. (And the post with dinosaur was really funny. )
Personally I would think the usual web/office needs would apply to preaching as much as anything similar; my pastor still uses paper. For bible+notes, I would rather think a Kindle version of your favoured translation would be the best bet. You get stuff for navigation the way a dedicated app could offer, along with the ability at marking and noting stuff that only a PDF file or dedicated bible reader might be able to offer. What would be lacking is the ability to cross reference other translations and sources easily or go straight to specific verses by number. For other books and stuff it should work fine and be less trouble than semi-illegally OCR'ing stuff, when whatever book you're interested in is available in the Kindle market.
As a Christian, I think you folks need to lighten up. Even GOD has a sense of humour, if you know HIM then you know that. If I was one of the people you should be reaching out to as a preacher instead of pushing away with behaviour like this: I'd look at this thread as a reason not to follow our saviour: he has too many people like you following him.
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Joey563 said:
The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.
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agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...
@OP and the rest of you guys....please don't feed the troll. Instead report him like is supposed to be done
@tehtroll...don't comeback here mate. If you don't have anything nice to say...keep your opinions to yourself.
Cheers,
M_T_M
Tony Maroney said:
I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
This was helpful. I have converted to a pdf but I have not found the right font size or margins, etc. I'll keep trying.
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revjwb32 said:
agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...
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I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.
budven said:
I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.
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Mysword is the android version of esword.