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I went back to stock rom, for now..

The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.

good for you. ive been with win mo since 2002 and i IMMEDIATELY customize/reg hack those devices as they needed it.. the touch pro2 was the first handset i really didnt need to hack into.. it was built pretty good for me and my lifestyle...
the evo... i see no reason to hack into it at this time. with the way linux manages the RAM and programs under the hood, there is no need in MY case to do anything... it runs just great stock.
so bravo to you sir for going against the grain and staying pretty much stock..

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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if that makes you happy go for it ! but i have to ask why's it slowing things down for you ? the flipz Dc rom is fast has hell for me any ways

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I have to agree.

I use the stock with root rom the only difference is root permissions theres no lag or increased battery drain on my evo
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Use odexed damagecontrol rom and set dconfig to equal battery and performance. Tell me that dieabt compare. You can set to battery saver and easily double battery lif too
I think deodexed roms are slower even tho ppl say no they feel it to me

Custom ROMs beat the pants off the stock ROM at everything. Your loss.
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The stock rom was terribad slow compared to everything else I tried.
I don't see how you came to these results.
Also, HTC Sense is the cancer killing Android.

kthejoker20 said:
The custom roms for some reason do not compare to the speed of the stock rom.
Just update the radio and stay with stock.
Until the evo kernal source gets released.
Otherwise for now, we are using another phone's source, which is for me, slowing everything down.
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I don't know what you're doing wrong but I couldn't agree less. That stock rom is a sloppy bloat-ware filled lag fest.
The source may be for another phone but it's for an identical platform. Sure, there is some slightly different hardware but that's mostly taken care of in the board files so far as I understand it.
Either way, take this anecdotal evidence as you will but I first flashed Fresh 0.2. Things got smoother and snappier. More free memory, longer lasting battery, more responsive interface. Then I tried out various Froyos. All very faster, awesome performance. That 30fps/screenlag problem seems more apparent when the OS is hauling that much ass, but no big deal. I tried froyo with a low-voltage OC kernel and put it up to 1.2ghz min/max with screen on, and 128mhz min/max screen off. The performance was amazing and the battery life was even better than ever. Given my moderate usage pattern I could have easily taken this 'charge daily' phone and made it a 'charge every other day' phone. Bugless Beast was also really fast and relatively battery sipping for me.
I don't know where you are coming from man, but all of the hard work from all of the devs here has had immediate positive impact on every aspect of my Evo experience...sure, there are a couple experimental hacks that make some strange **** happen, but it's usually pretty obvious what those are and why.
Now I just put Fresh 0.3 on last night, the performance is top notch. The battery life seemed to drain rather quickly but I also left the 55fps Nova screen hack on all night to test it out, which I haven't been doing. So today I charged to 100% with the stock kernel, wiped the battery stats and I'm going to see how that works. Worst-case scenario it's something in fresh 0.3 and I'll just continue to bounce between baked desert, fresh 0.2 and BB4.
Either you are doing it wrong or there is actually something hardware-wrong with your phone.
Try again man, it works great for me.

i'm still stock myself but i do have root with unrevoked. i don't have a need to use a custom rom yet and i am definately waiting until froyo 2.2 comes before i do as that will be a game changer... i came from a at&t tilt that had a custom winmo 6.5 rom and the evo blows it out of the water, so i am enjoying my stock evo at the moment...
nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...

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nothing wrong with flashing though to a different rom, its whatever floats your boat, some people flash as soon as they can, others wait and some never do... choice is great...
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I rooted mine in the Radio Shack parking lot at 6am, lol.
But I agree with you, do what works best for you.

Please help me choose a ROM.

Well, it's been 3 weeks since I bricked my phone. Mine was 1 of those that had no recovery mode so I had to send it in to get repaired. As I live abroad, the turn around time was a very LONG 3 weeks. Anyway, browsing the development section I see a lot of the devs have gone into over drive. There are SO MANY Rom's to choose from that frankly, I'm a bit overwhelmed at which to choose.
Bionix Final
Bionix Fusion 1.1
Froyo JPA Macnut
Froyo JPO Axura
AOSPish 1.4
MasterRom Final
Then there are all the kernels as well as the zmod4 mod. I mean wtf! lol!!
I was running Bionix 1.7 with Voodoo and it was unbelievably smooth and fast. Now I just don't even know where to start.
In your opinions , what combo would be the fastest, most stable, smoothest and closest one of all of those to Bionix 1.7 OC w/voodoo?

Wow, this is such a loaded question since the answer is always going to be one of opinion. But, since I have one of those, I'll throw in my $0.02 worth.
My phone was also bricked by the OTA. However, I was able to use ODIN to flash back to stock. Knowing I could do this gave me the confidence to try the Bionix 1.x versions (pre Final). When Fusion came out, I went to it and am very happy that I did. In my opinion, it is what Samsung should have release in the first place. (Samsung should really consider engaging this team - or other developers who are spending a lot of time tweaking the ROMs - as consultants on their future releases). So, to answer your question:
* They (both flavors of Bionix) are very stable
* Doesn't require a lag fix.
So, I'm pretty happy. The main difference (as I understand it) between Bionix Final and Fusion is whether you have all of the Samsung stuff included. Fusion doesn't include Touchwiz. I'm a Launcher Pro person, so Fusion is a better choice for me.
Now, regarding the Froyo builds. Depends on what you want to do with your phone. I view those builds as "bleeding edge." So, I want them to be around a little longer before I go that route. But that's just me.
Good luck.

It all depends on your personal preference.
If you are afraid to brick your new replacement and wait another 3 weeks I'd suggest going with Bionix Final stock kernel option, if you feel adventurous go with Bionix Fusion with non-stock kernel. I would, personally, wait for a stable Froyo ROM, current ROM's lack GPS drivers due to unavailability of the source from Samsung, but as soon as an official leak shows up or OTA roll out, I am pretty sure there will be a stable Froyo builds to choose from.
In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with Fusion JAC kernel, it smooths the phone to a degree I don't even see what stock OTA Froyo could bring to the table except Adobe Flash support. My understanding in the delays associated with Froyo release is the JIT (just in time compiler) hasn't been optimized for Hummingbird CPU, and Samsung is working on the optimization.

I recommend Bionix Fusion 1.1 with Project Core kernal 1Ghz. Its very stable, very fast and smooth and good battery life. There is also a Project Core 1.2 Ghz kernel but that one ran my cpu kinda hot with continuous use and I flashed down to the 1Ghz kernel. Not to mention Team Whiskey has put a lot of effort into making this rom as usable as possible. Far as that goes, every rom development team on here has lol. Thats my recommendation though.

That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.

Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/ project core v1 @ 1.2 if your phone can handle it. I have flashed just about every rom that has been released including the froyo roms and to me, this is by far the best rom / kernel combo.

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That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.

joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs. So first thing you'd have to decide is if you want a ROM with all the features, personally, I don't get why people settle for Froyo minus the GPS. JIT isn't even functioning, so what are you really getting out of froyo at the time being? Just to say you have it? There really aren't any life changing factors comparing froyo vibrant roms to bionix 1.1.
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing). My suggestion is bionix 1.1 if you really wanna try something new, but it won't change your life, just satisfy your need for change.
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Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.

I've had great performance with Bionix Fusion using the Core v1 kernal (over clocked to 1.2). I threw the OCLF on top of it, but everything already ran great without it.
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Master™ said:
Acutally flash one of those ROM's before saying things don't work or they aren't stable..
They are stable, JIT DOES work, etc.
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Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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zephiK said:
JIT in the newer Froyo builds is working.. what are you talking about? Everything works with the exception of GPS. The only issue that you may encounter is GPS and battery life complaints (results may vary) and the occasional data drop problem.
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Not efficiently. And yeah so your advice is a ROM with no GPS and data difficulties on a more than capable device? Dude, what are YOU talking about?
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I've been running bionix fusion with project core v1 @1.2 and it's pretty good, however I had a random reboot so I might go down to the 1ghz, we'll see.

joe.kerwin said:
Things aren't wrong with stable ROMs. It's a port. A port is a port. Fact is when official froyo made for our MODEL of galaxy s, these froyo sources will be dropped. The 2.1 roms for us are built on a stable base built for our phones. They're just facts. Not discrediting any work done. If my friend asked a recommendation, I certainly wouldn't recommend an experimental ROM with dysfunctional features, and that's what this thread is about.
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I have to agree/disagree with you. Even though 2.2 ROMs are ports, they are still very very good. And if you can live w/o the GPS.. Well, go with one of them
If you can't live w/o a GPS, then go with Master Rom or Bionix Fusion

Fusion with the Core kernel is awesome for me. 1.2GHz without increased voltage is nice. This is my first android device and I really like Launcher Pro.
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joe.kerwin said:
That's not even a reasonable list of options. All froyo ROMS are not stable. And for anyone who thinks these froyo ROMs are sUpEr cOoL aWeSoMe, stable means everything works, and everything does not work currently on any froyo ROMs.
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You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
I myself have a new vibrant, and am running a rooted JI6 OTA, just rooted for adfree and tether mainly, along with the OCLF just for ****s n giggles. The OCLF really only seems to speed up certain small things, like cache cleaning/app uninstalls/etc. Ive ran every 2.1 ROM on a vibrant and there's really no significant changes in speed, same linpack, same quadrant (even though it means nothing).
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Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.

Kubernetes said:
You seem to have a very different definition of the word "stable" compared to most people. IMO, "stable" means not rebooting or force closing randomly. What you describe is "not fully featured."
Nutty. Fusion 1.1 w/ Core1zMod? Way faster than JI6 stock. Try placing a widget or calling up any app.
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I've used it, it's pointless to argue. We're talking about milliseconds here. If you reopen and close a random app 10x. Each of our setups would hesitate on a few of them. I'm satisfied with speed on this thing. I'm more focused on new features. And your opinion is wrong, the gps and apparently data is not stable at all or at all times. Gps would be a component of the rom, which in turn makes the rom experimental. Its just made well enough to use daily.
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Gentlemen, thanks for all of the replies. It's very much appreciated.
I am going to switch between a Froyo version and Bionix Fusion. I have absolutely no use for GPS where I'm located, never even used it once. So I'm going to give Froyo a try to see what it's like. Then in all honesty, unless it's unbelievable... I see myself going to Bionix Fusion as it's the most recommended here.
No matter which I eventually end up with, I think I'll be keeping it at 1Ghz. No OC for me until I run some serious tests. My OCing experience with computers tells me that OCing a unit without any additional cooling and having it sealed in a casing that must be close to as warm as hell, is a seriously bad idea. Even without extra juice, I can only see more harm coming from that than any actual real world benefits. But I'll know for sure after I see what the temp variations are like. (Anyone care to share their experience with that?)
Again, thank you all for the suggestions.

Why is there no love for AOSPish 1.4? Lol I really love that rom with JACS oc/uv kernel. Its an awesome rom if u want to go for a more stock android look. Either way u cant really go wrong with any of these roms. Developers are bustin their butts to constantly improve them. I think u should just try a few out and see what works best for u! Good luck
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Hmmmmmmm Roms
Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that

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Like most of the people who already posted I think people are getting way myopic about what is better yadida..........
My experience has been the one thing that never really gets resolved 100% is the GPS, and that is not that important to me
The Froyo's
The Axura's
The Bionix's
Eugenes Roms
Master's roms
All of the above are fantastic in their own right. The Better question is "what do i really need and want" then look at the roms and "back engineer" you needs and wants to the rom that most matches that criteria. What i see is this over active need to have the fastest most newest rom.... ok.......... so, that is like having a Massaretti in commuter traffic... you cannot utilize the power.... so look to your needs and wants and find a balanced rom thatfits that
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Very well said and great analogy. Don't forget there are tons of people who want a Ferrari or Lambo just for the wow factor while in traffic. Most custom roms give you that wow compared to stock.

Help Choosing ROM

I have a BELL DZ which I unlocked, rooted and did s-off. I then flashed it with Paul O'briens sense ROM but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Looking through the development section I notice that pretty much every thread gives very basic instructions on how to flash the ROM but some really make it difficult for a n00b such as myself to understand.
What is de-odexed and what does it do? What is zip-aligned? Many of the ROMs don't say if they are for G2 or DZ. Some of the threads are 200+ pages and it's impossible to find out if there are issues with the ROM quickly and easily.
All I want is to have the following:
-Overlocked to 1.4ghz (or near)
-Wake via trackpad button
-no normal functions broke (wifi, data etc.)
-Sense
-Bloatware removed
-No issues with battery life
Am I better with a stock ROM? Is there a way to get the OC and trackpad button thing without flashing a custom ROM?

alright i am here to help sir. while i do have a tmobile g2, the phone is exactly the same and i believe that the roms work for either phone.
1. if you are going to go with a sense rom, i would HIGHLY suggest going with Virtuous ROM. it is a combined effort with the wonderful devs of rmk and eViL D. the updates and patches are always coming, and the rom is nearly perfect. the thread is awesome and your answer is almost always going to be answered. one of the more favorite things about this is the kernel choices that is offered through rom manager and is always up to date with an update, or patches. there are 5 kerne choices that one allows up to 1.501 GHZ. if there is a problem with the rom there WILL be a fix for it.
2. and of course there is cyanogen. i do in fact love stock android, but i stick with the ROM above because i am really digging sense and all of its goodies. cyanogen has limitless possibilities with custimzations and stuff to make it your own. and always have the options of flashing tons of themes and stuff from people who make them, where there is zero themes going for the virtuous roms.
and to repsond to your waking with trackpad and such, there isnt a way to maintain that with just stock. you would have to flash the cyanogen bacon bits that allows it(i believe) which can be found in ROM manager and is easily flashable. either way you cannot go wrong with whatever you choose, but its all about what you prefer.

Another recommendation for a Virtuous sense rom. I'm running the 8.1 currently...it satisfies all the requirements on your list.

Thanks guys, going to look into the virtuous ROM. Would it be recommended to wipe my phone to go with the Virtuous ROM?

Are you using Rom Manager to do this?

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Thanks guys, going to look into the virtuous ROM. Would it be recommended to wipe my phone to go with the Virtuous ROM?
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Yes everytime you switch from one ROM to another you must do a full wipe (data,cache,dalvik) in order to avoid any issues.

Any of the custom ROMs should work fine on both the G2 and the DZ (unless the thread on the ROM specifically says otherwise), after all they are the same phone. The keyboard mapping is the only real different you'd notice, so this might need tweaking of the ROM doesn't automatically handle it.
As I understand it, apps that have been de-odexed, have effectively been put back in one piece so they can be more easily modified by the developer. Normally the apps are odexed, and have had some extra optimisation done to them which makes them hard to modify.
Zip-aligned is supposed to save RAM, I think ?

I for one am another upvote for Virtuous 8.1 Smooth as silk.

Rom manager will not work on my g2.I always get the red triangle. And have to pull the battery. How can I just start over.by the way I am rooted well I believe so.
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I'd definitely recommend wiping. You can always back up your current ROM and everything else, so no worries.
Another +1 for Virtuous. Cyanogen was awesome and very fast, but Virtuous is as well. I can't get away from the social phonebooks either and the HTC Sense Facebook and Twitter integration is phenomenal. I thought I'd ditch it without looking back but I was sadly mistaken.
Virtuous wasn't slower as I expected either. It's very fast and very stable. I usually run around 1-1.2GHz with the conservative setting in SetCPU with only a couple profiles, mainly just one for things to cool down when the screen is locked. Works great and my battery is loving it too.

I've heard that none of the current ROMs support 4G. Is this true? ...and if so how much speed decrease do you guys notice?

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Rom manager will not work on my g2.I always get the red triangle. And have to pull the battery. How can I just start over.by the way I am rooted well I believe so.
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Flash the clockwork recovery TWICE. That did it for me
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I've heard that none of the current ROMs support 4G. Is this true? ...and if so how much speed decrease do you guys notice?
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I'm getting HSPA+ speeds on CM6 so we definitely do

ROMs... bugs... where to go from here?

Is there any true bugless/very minimally bugged ROM out there? Tried CM6, CM6, Evervolv, and some others. I'm talking something that can be fully fixed if there are bugs in it, or is there a ROM that will basically be a stock evo with the sprint garbage removed from it, i was wondering maybe I could stick a savagedzen kernel on it and get some better speed from it as well with bettery battery life. I know there is a fresh evo but I don't think that this ROM gets rid of the junkware sprint puts on? Since quadrant scores and the like are mostly useless I'm beginning to even wonder, are you "truly" getting any more speed out of a custom ROM over stock without getting bugs?
Right now I'm on CM7, everything is wonderful, of course except for the bugs. The random 3g -> 1x for no reason, making the internet not even usable. The random mini-lockups/terrible lag that I can get, etc are all just too annoying to deal with when they pop up. It's irritating when I go to my friends and say "here check this out, this thing has more battery life and as fast a he-...oh well actually my internet on it is bugging out right now and the lockscreen I have to really quick reboot for etc etc." What's the point of speed if these sort of things happen, you know? All of the flashiness of gingerbread is starting to urk me with all the bugs it brings, I haven't tried a froyo mod except for myns, I don't remember what kind of bugs I had in that, if any. What's the best way to go from here? Maybe give CM6 a try again and put SZen kernel on it?(I only ever tried it with stock) Thanks for any opinions/sorry for the mini text wall.

Newsflash: CM7 is buggy, and has always been buggy, hence the ever updated releases.
If you want a ROM that's as close to 100% stable as you can find, try the bigger Sense ROM's....

Are there any very stable AOSP ROMs? Especially gingerbread? Or do these only truly become stable when the real releases are out for the phones? Because If that's not the case, why not just run stock, you know? What's the real benefit? The only reason I rooted in the very beginning was to get rid of the junk Sprint has attached in the beginning. I don't mind sense. However ever since I've rooted I've been on a speed/battery hunt thinking I could get something majorly different. Is it even worth it? What is CM6 like with savagedzen for instance? Because that's what I'm thinking of trying next. Or are all AOSP going to have pretty hefty bugs with them one way or another due to the nature of them?

So far the new ports of the Shift roms are solid as a rock. Misfits for stock. Kings for some ultra themed ones and Zone23 for blue.
Give them a try you won't regret disappointed.

Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet

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Try Misfits Speedy Port. Pretty stable with Sense 2.1. I'm making a rom based on that one that is stripped down, but not allowed to post dev forums yet
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What are you gaining over a stock evo, though. Compared to this?

Years ago the phones were slow and bloated. You could install custom ROMs and actually notice an increase in speed.
With the phones coming out now they are already fast and if you root to look for a speed increase you might not notice much. You will notice all the bloatware gone though.
For a stable ROM I would look for a 2.2 Calk ROM or ones like that. They may not have been updated in awhile but that's because there isn't much to add or change. Everything works.

What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

See I don't understand why the call them "release [clients?]", and then release a "full version", even when the full version is still buggy with devices. I stayed away from CM7 for that exact reason until they finally got the full version up. Once I stuck it on i was enjoying it so much but the bugs are just too annoying to deal with anymore. Can't even show off with it because of them popping up at the dumbest times and then it's like yeah so much for that awesome phone hack. I might go try myn's again or CM6, not sure. I just want the stock apps gone, and I want a stable environment. Speed is nice too. Being unique is nice, when it doesn't have huge drawbacks.

Crossrocker said:
What about myns?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.

On the sense side, I've found Koni's elite series III to be flawless...I'm currently running ava's ginger sense and haven't had any real issues with it either... can't go wrong with either of those.. just my two cents..
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No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.

What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.

chandlerw88 said:
No smart phone to date is bug free. Cm7 stable is best in my opinion and that 3g/1x bug you speak of isn't a bug but cm7 actually giving you the accurate data speed in the area you are in.
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I know there isn't a "bug free" ROM or phone. But in terms of crippling bugs, CM7 at the moment for me is horrifying when I'm trying to show it to others especially.
As for the 3g/1x bug it is very real, and it's the worst. I get 1x for no reason inside my house and outside on occasion, it will then switch back to 3g if I restart the phone, or wait [sometimes an absurdly long time] until it fixes itself. I've not had that issue with any other ROMs, stock evo, gingerbread ROMs, or anything of the like. I've reflashed completely fresh with and without the GPS fix, with savagedzen and stock - no difference. Maybe it's just my phone, regardless though, there are so many people asking for help on different areas of CM7 it makes me not want to bother because it is not a truly stable rom for Evo for a lot of people. The battery charger bug I can deal with, mine lags to high hell when it's on the charger - that's something I can fix within an instant and not have it bother me. As for the 3g/1x, the random app mini freezes, the lockscreen not wanting to come on sometimes unless I hold down the button much longer until I restart, and other things of the sort, i cannot. It's not worth the flashy menus, and really the battery life is nothing near a froyo ROM, not even close. (I don't expect it to be).

reaper24 said:
What recovery are u using amon 2.3 wipes fix most issue.when flashing like crazy I haven't had any issues with the roms . Sense or cm7 work fine. Try Elite 3 , Kings out of this world. Um to many to list. Always do a full wipe when flashing new roms.
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I use amon 2.3 as well, and I always full wipe after storing a backup on my comp (complete full wipe)

I played with my friend's stock unrooted evo yesterday and no joke, the thing randomly rebooted in my hands while doing nothing special at all.
With that said, any rom here is more stable than stock, but try SavageMod 1.2.1, most stable 2.3.3 I've tried.

I have to endorse Koni's. I ran it for over a month, until I flashed Giger today to pay with 'til Koni releases v.IV
It's not overly themed, perfectly smooth and everything I needed to work did fine, and not one FC the entire time I ran it.
The setup in my sig is how I had it set up. The only difference now, of course, is the ROM

I like sinister for stability, its V4 now and I can't think of a single issue with it.
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The more and more I think about it I don't remember having too many issues with myn's, so I may try that out again. Not sure. Is there any way to get that gingerbread lock off/on animation? That is something I'm really after, along with the gingerbread keyboard too.
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I always like ava's ROMs for fast and stable - Z4 isn't quite their yet, but give Z3 a shot.
No GB on/off animation mod as of yet, but you can add the GB keyboard to any ROM. There a quite a few diff ones from the themes and apps forum.

Gotta jump in here for some input...
If you just strictly want Sense, I was always a Myn Warm Two Point Two guy.
If you can't live without the screen off animation, Deck's Gingerbread is by far the way to go. Yes, it is built from CM7 to an extent but Deck really does a great job taking care of problems. There is a stable 1.0 and beta 1.2(x). Everyone likes CM7 because its popular and known, but honestly after using CM7 for awhile and then jumping to Deck's rom I will never look back.
If you want to remove the bloat from a stock sprint rom don't forget that you can always just do it by removing the apk's from your system with root explorer or through ADB.
How to through ADB:
--adb remount
--adb shell
-- cd /system/app
--ls
-- Once all the apps show up, you just type: rm <insert the apk name here.apk>
--reboot your phone and BAMMMMM!

Trigger 3.2 vs CM7

What are some of the differences? I use Trigger 3.2 and it works well for me (but KB5 Modem doesnt so im on KB1 which drains battery more but gives me better signal indoors in NYC)
Ive never tried CyanogenMod... anyone prefer one over the other?

I'm also on Trigger, and what has kept me from even trying CM7 is the lack of GPS, which as I understand it stems from the lack of Gingerbread for our phones. I imagine this board will explode once Gingerbread gets leaked, so maybe I'll try CM7 when I see that happen.

i like cm7, but i always go back to trigger. cm7 is good, but the only thing i don't like is the 3d on some gameloft games are skippy. specially for fps like nova 2. im gonna try the new version 17 and see what happens.
edit: ok so i went back to cm7 and i don't think im going to change back. runs smooth and 3d problems go away after playing for a bit. only real issue besides gps is that sometimes you have to mute/unmute phone for people to hear you clearly

I came over to cm7 from trigger 3.2 and I love it. minus the gps, which i rarely used anyways, I love the customization of cm7. also, it just looks so much shinier.. the wallpapers, the themes, everything is just so beautiful.

Thanks for the feedback!
Alex - I too hardly use GPS so maybe I shall give it a try too.

I loved Trigger 3.2, especially with the Bullet kernel. I moved over to CM7 though and have no plans to go back. It's not just a Trigger vs CM argument, but a Froyo vs Gingerbread argument. The generic email app in Froyo on Vibrants is broken, this isn't just a Trigger problem, but a problem with all Froyo ROMs for the Vibrant. In Gingerbread it is buttery smooth. I also like how streamlined CM7 is. Applying a theme for CM7 is easier than on any ROM I have tried before. I also get better Linpack and Quadrant scores using the base kernel for CM7 then I have for any base kernel in Froyo. And like a previous post mentioned, CM7 is extremely customizable. If there is a feature they added that I don't like, it's very easy to turn off that feature. Another nice feature to CM7 is that once you have flash CM7 on your phone, it's very easy to update. I found updating any Froyo ROM to be time consuming since I had to make sure that I had backed up my files in TB and then once I updated my Froyo ROM I would have to restore my TB backup. With CM7 you only need to restore your TB backup after the first flash. Every update after that only updates the specific files they have changed in CM7, so I don't need to go through the restore process each time.
Trigger 3.2 with the Bullet kernel is still faster, more stable (although not by much, CM7 is really stable now), has GPS and a better battery life. Even with all of that, Trigger is a ROM that has reached the end of it's development. CM7 is still in the beginning stages for the Vibrant and continues to grow.
Either way you really can't go wrong since both are fantastic ROMs and it all really comes down to which you prefer. The biggest warning I will give you is if you decide to try out CM7 make sure you know how to Odin you phone, because you will have to perform an Odin on your device if you want to go back to Trigger.

When they fix the mute/unmute bug on CM7 it will be the best ROM, even without GPS.

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When they fix the mute/unmute bug on CM7 it will be the best ROM, even without GPS.
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they've already fixed that... try new #17, mine's worked since 16 though.

it depends on how you use your phone, imho i like both im currently on cm7 in trigger i like the speed stability battery life functions and all of that stuff and in cm7 i like the update process since its easy, the new functions and so much more

droidfan77 said:
I loved Trigger 3.2, especially with the Bullet kernel. I moved over to CM7 though and have no plans to go back. It's not just a Trigger vs CM argument, but a Froyo vs Gingerbread argument. The generic email app in Froyo on Vibrants is broken, this isn't just a Trigger problem, but a problem with all Froyo ROMs for the Vibrant. In Gingerbread it is buttery smooth. I also like how streamlined CM7 is. Applying a theme for CM7 is easier than on any ROM I have tried before. I also get better Linpack and Quadrant scores using the base kernel for CM7 then I have for any base kernel in Froyo. And like a previous post mentioned, CM7 is extremely customizable. If there is a feature they added that I don't like, it's very easy to turn off that feature. Another nice feature to CM7 is that once you have flash CM7 on your phone, it's very easy to update. I found updating any Froyo ROM to be time consuming since I had to make sure that I had backed up my files in TB and then once I updated my Froyo ROM I would have to restore my TB backup. With CM7 you only need to restore your TB backup after the first flash. Every update after that only updates the specific files they have changed in CM7, so I don't need to go through the restore process each time.
Trigger 3.2 with the Bullet kernel is still faster, more stable (although not by much, CM7 is really stable now), has GPS and a better battery life. Even with all of that, Trigger is a ROM that has reached the end of it's development. CM7 is still in the beginning stages for the Vibrant and continues to grow.
Either way you really can't go wrong since both are fantastic ROMs and it all really comes down to which you prefer. The biggest warning I will give you is if you decide to try out CM7 make sure you know how to Odin you phone, because you will have to perform an Odin on your device if you want to go back to Trigger.
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Thank you for your thorough review. I will surely try CM7

I need some assistance. Im trying to flash CM7. The directions state to flash ClockworkMod Recovery from ROM Manager Premium. When I do, an option for Vibrant MTD isnt listed...how do I get it to give me that option?

as long as u have rom manager premium all u have to do is click on flash clockwork recovery it will be at very top of rom manager page. Then it will ask u wht type of phone u pick vibrantmtd for cm7 and then u pick 3x NOT 2x. Then after thats done go to download rom and pick cm7 nightlies

Hey movieaddict... I did upgrade to Rom Premium but unfortunately VibrantMTD isnt an option.. Perhaps my Trigger 3.2 bootloader isnt a Froyo bootloader? (If the ROM installed its own)
Update: This is one of the EDT reps wrote on their facebook page: Trigger does not contain one. I believe you can find one in one of the older ODIN packages posted.
So I guess I need to ODIN to stock in order to have a Froyo bootloader? Which is odd because I have ODIN'd to stock in the past...
Anyone have any recommendations?

I got it.. I had to reinstall Rom Manager which is totally a newer version then the one I had on my phone

What is the diff between CWR 2.x and 3.x? The thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061889 indicates you should choose 2.x, which is what I have done.
Thanks.

ive always chosen 3x on cm7 and on 2.2 roms i choose 2x and i havent had one problem yet with cm7!

I had problems with CM7 to where I had to reflash the nightly, well dayly for it to continue to work. It would keep FC everything. It would not remain stable. I stopped updating when #11 hit since my voice calls wouldn't work. I suppose that issue is fixed by now though. That was my experience with CM7 and I don't suppose I will go back until 2.3 is released.

What I don't understand is all the problems people are having with cm7 nightlies? Its pretty straightforward! I prefer cm7 over trigger
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i like CM7 more

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i like CM7 more
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I agree. I had a lot of FCs with Trigger. Now, I have to say though, I did a ODIN back to stock before flashing CM7. I didnt do this when flashing Trigger though. Trigger worked fine for a week then started FCs on everything.