Hi,
I've just get a confirmation by other members that the dock keyboard is not well suited for fast typing ! I'm really amazed that nobody in eeepad forums (I googled them all) is talking about this problem, which is really an issue for a >100 $ keyboard ! Am I the only one to consider this keyboard as a kind of toy ?
Do this experience : if you type a key not right in the center, but on the side, you will find a place when the key is pressed and we can hear it, but nothing appears on the screen ! An it's really near from the center of the key ! Do this experience with any keyboard laptop, and the key responds, no matter where you press it.
So buyers, beware, if you are a quick typer, this keyboard is a kind of joke for me... But an expensive one !
Cheers !
Update for people reading this thread, see page 5 for more explanation :
ok guys, following constructive advice of some of you, I did an rma, and try another one eeepad... I must admit that I got a lemon, the dock keyboard I have right now is acceptable, i'm typing at 90% of my full speed, but anyway, it responds far better than the one I had.
I had a defective keyboard unit.
To test if your keyboard is ok, do this simple test :
1. open Polaris
2. hit a key on the center : it must work
3. hit at the middle right of the key : it must work
4. hit the key almost at the end (right) of the key : it must work
The same for the left. If 3 and 4 doesn't work very well, the mechanic of your keyboard is bad : change it.
It sounds to me you are simply not typing in the right way..or you may have a defect unit
I can type on my TF keyboard just as fast as on my laptop.
And expensive? really? for 50 quid (with bundle)? most laptop battery alone will cost the same.
Yeah I dont really have problems typing on mine either. It takes a little time to get used to its size though
I'm typing for almost 20 years, I'm around 55 words per minute, and I'm a well trained typer... I don't think that I'm typing in the wrong way for a very simple reason :
- I've got a bunch of laptops, used a lot of keyboards (probably dozens), and never meet this kind of problem, and one day ; I try the eeepad dock keyboard, and it seems that I have to learn a new way of typing ? Why ? Because if you don't type a key right in the center, but sometimes with a kind of angle and not centered, the key does not respond. Hell, make the test ! And try with any other laptop keyboard ! Taste the difference.
I think it's ok for two finger typers, or quick typer who hit hard on the keyboard, but my style is more kind of hit-light-and-fast typer, and anyway I've got a confirmation of two other members that there is a typing problem.
But the thing which is the most amazing is that it seems that I'm the first one to notice the problem, it seems that a lot of us are happy with this keyboard... Probably it can be the case for not-so-fast-typers, but for quick typers, it's like to get back again with an old car when you are used to go in Porsche.
So my advice, if you are a quick typer, go... go away... from this keyboard... poor fool...
I haven't had too many issues... I will say the keys need a solid press in some instances though.
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So my advice, if you are a quick typer, go... go away... from this keyboard... poor fool...
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I'm a 50+ wpm typer as well. I've had zero issues with mine (apart from a dead W key). Maybe you should take a look at your own issue. Why are you the only one complaining about this? I got a defective unit with a W key that wouldn't work no matter how hard, soft, fast, or slow you pressed it. You may have a defective unit as well.
You have to ensure that you press keys all the way down. But, if I do that I have no specific issues with the keyboard. But the Asus keyboard suffers from the same issues I see in many small laptop/netbook keyboards, namely the keys are too flat and the travel is too short. I guess they do this to save space, but it makes me long for a full size keyboard.
I type around 50-60 words per minute myself and, since the OTA, haven't had any major issues with the dock keyboard. I'm a little slower on it, just like I'm a little slower on my netbook, but that's to be expected.
IMHO, either you've got a bad dock or you're doing something wrong.
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IMHO, either you've got a bad dock or you're doing something wrong.
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I love the keyboard and the feeling when typing is fantastic. Sounds like you got a lemon.
Mine has been fine. Just to note its not a $150 keyboard. That includes the battery, dock, SD reader, charger and USB host functions.
I'm also a pretty fast and light typist....and the keyboard feels like you have to hit it with a hammer to get it to register key strokes....just a little bit to the side of a key and it doesn't do anything.
I noticed slow response from dock keyboard while I'm typing in google stocked browser. At the other hand Opera is working flawlessly. Other apps, stocked and 3rd party are working fine (ie: mail, gmail app etc)
As a macbook pro owner ican tell you the keyboard is fine. It is the nature of chiclet style keys that makes it feeldifferent. With time you get used to it and also keys soften a bit too.
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I own a variety of Thinkpads from the small X series to larger W. They are acknowledged as having the best laptop keyboards and I've had no problems using the Transformer keyboard instead.
Now if you were complaining about the battery drain the dock induces, I could agree with you!
I'm finding the keyboard fine to type on but its not much different from my netbook or even my 14inch work laptop. It takes time moving to the smaller layout but thats just down to practise.
I haven't had any issues outside of the software lag. I type at 70-75 wpm, but (then again) I'll admit I haven't used it for anything that would require a ton of typing to really condign recognize if there were issues.
You sparked my interest now. I am going to test and see if I have any issues.
I will say that, outside of typing, there are so many benefits to the keyboard dock that I still feel it is worth it one way our the other.
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I'm also a pretty fast and light typist....and the keyboard feels like you have to hit it with a hammer to get it to register key strokes....just a little bit to the side of a key and it doesn't do anything.
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Exactly !! Nobody has noticed that ??? Maybe it's due to the type of typist you are ? But it seems that for fast and light typist, it's an issue... For fast and hard typist, it's not... And when I'm typing, I'm not typing always right in the center of the key, but a little bit to the side, and this is why I found that typing on this dock is a problem for me...
Canadoc said:
As a macbook pro owner ican tell you the keyboard is fine. It is the nature of chiclet style keys that makes it feeldifferent. With time you get used to it and also keys soften a bit too.
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Thanks for the info...good to know. this is my first chicklet keyboard.
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As a macbook pro owner ican tell you the keyboard is fine. It is the nature of chiclet style keys that makes it feeldifferent. With time you get used to it and also keys soften a bit too.
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It definitely has the same feel as a MacBook. I have never been a huge fan of these flat keys with limited travel. But, as long as people want thin devices we will keep getting them.
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i am really slow when typing with the keyboard the keys are narraower than what id like them to be and if i type faster i make too many mistakes. i type a lot my my speed didnt improve much since i bought the device 3 weeks ago. the fastest way for me to type is to use the compct qwerty in the hd-keyboard
am i the only one suffering too much from this? any tips to make my life easier? and btw, i type with my two (fatish) thumbs
sony better fix this in the x2. this is what i hate about the keyboard
-keys too narrow
-too much free spaces between the keys
-not enough travel distance or feedback on some keys
-touch pro keyboad has the very very very usuful number row that help greatly in speed typing and dialing.
-area of keyboard is big but not utalised properly. probably to make the design more attractive
There's no real tricks or hints anyone can give you. It's just a matter of practise, practise and some more... you get the point. You shouldn't expect to type at keyboard speed with two thumbs though.
Granted, I sometimes doublepress a key as well, mainly because the tactile response is kind-of so-so.
i understand what you say. and i dont expect a magical trick that will double my speed. it just frustrating that my typing speed is almost the same as the day i bought the thing. the funny part is that the other day i got a change to play with the touchpro for the first time and my speed was so much better
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i understand what you say. and i dont expect a magical trick that will double my speed. it just frustrating that my typing speed is almost the same as the day i bought the thing. the funny part is that the other day i got a change to play with the touchpro for the first time and my speed was so much better
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I'm a little faster with a Fuze, I've noticed. I think that's the same as your Touch Pro.
I think with both the Touch Pro and the Xperia, it's one of those, "You get it...or you don't" things. People who like one aren't going to like the other an you just cannot talk them out of one and into the other.
The little E71-2 will probably really surprise you with how easy you can type.
Sometimes I'll switch the SIM into an E71-2 when I have to carry something with a smaller profile, and after using it for a day I wonder why on earth I ever got the Xperia.
(sigh)
But, you know what?
I'll probably still get an N97.
Yeh, coming from a P1i i reckon SE should have done some R&D on the keyboard before releasing it. The P1 was absolutely magical as far as typing goes, very close to keyboard speeds . . . I bought the X1 as an upgrade from my P1i (and because it has a qwerty), but honestly, I think about going back to my P1i . . . love the keyboard on that
i am typing quite fast with mine .
one trick could be to use the autocompletion using tab space when the good world is found
Practice makes perfect....
thanks tylwith the tab space was surprisengly more effective than what i excpeted.
my biggest issue is that i tend to press a wrong and close lettero the one i really want. i wonder if i can install a dictionay that puts that in consideration. some on screen keyboards do that very well like pocketcm or the iphone
Get a dremel, take one of the conical tips for it and grind the end of your fingers down to points. Should make hitting the right keys a bit easier, eventually when the pains stopped...
Seriously I doubt you've got much bigger hands than me (if at all) and I don't have to many problems with the keyboard.
Practice some more, writing out war&peace in pocket word should do it..
I could be persuaded to use this instead?
Whats the on-screen keyboard like? I know the screen is HUGE so i'm guessing the on-screen is fairly big? I need to be able to type fairly fast for taking notes in meetings etc and this is why I normaly buy phones with keyboards.
Thanks!!!
(please be honest, i'm about to spend £400 on this and I don't want that to be a waste of money)
The onscreen keyboard is good, but don't expect magic - if you feel you need a hardware keyboard then you will most likely be disappointed with what the HD2 offers.
In all fairness I never owned a WM phone with a full hardware keyboard, but I still make mistakes on the HD2's virtual keyboard same as I did with the virtual keyboard on my previous phone - so my conclusion is that it's not perfect.
Personally, I find FingerKeyboard better than HTC's anyway, I use that most of the time. Swype is good as well for accuracy but I find typing stuff is a bit slow because you're having to swipe your finger across a huge screen without lifting off to enter words.
I normally prefer hardware keyboards, however I have found that the HD2's screen is fairly large enough to work with. Also, use XT9 and go at it like you don't care if you misspell words, generally it will auto-correct you fairly well.
I personally prefer touchscreen keyboards rather than hardware keybaords, I find hardware keyboards a bit fidly to use.
The HD2 keyboard is pretty good, I think it's as good as the one on iphone, which I have just come from. The keyboard automatically corrects the majority of your mistakes, but you will still make the odd one. However, I also make the odd mistake using any keyboard, such as my laptop. In fact I probably make more errors typing on a PC/laptop keyboard as there is no auto correct function.
there's a thread about this on here somewhere with a lot of people complaining about the keyboard. it seems you either love it or really hate it. I would suggest going in a shop and ask to try it before you buy it. me personally I think its fine but don't take mine or anyone else's word for it, like I said a lot of people hate it, WITH A PASSION!
I owned a touch pro 2, which has the best hardware keyboard out there, and sure i was afraid i'll lose that sweat keyboard, but in the end i can say that i'm happy with the hd2's keyboard. Sure, i'm not as fast as i used to be on my tp2 but still...
I think you will be fine.
I've always had a HW keyboard since 2005, but after a few weeks practice with Swype, I'm very fast and more than happy given it means my phone is much thinner.
thanks for all input guys, very much appreciated!
Some touchscreen keyboards are ok, some are usable and some are good. Don't think that because a touchscreen keyboard on X device is good, therefore the HD2's will be good too. It isn't. It's a pig of a keyboard. Typing on it is one of the most frustrating tasks known to man. Sure it's a great device but you're asking specifically about typing on it.....and typing on it is horrendous. YMMV.
I can Swype faster than a HW keyboard
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A lot of people prefer to type rather than sliding their fingers around in a whole new style. It shouldn't be necessary that we have to install new keyboards and get used to whole new styles of inputting text, just because the supplied keyboard isn't up to scratch. Personally I don't want to learn how to 'swype'.
Swype is the best solution for 1 handed typing. I dont see how its better than the regular keyboard unless you prefer to use 1 hand to type all the time.
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A lot of people prefer to type rather than sliding their fingers around in a whole new style. It shouldn't be necessary that we have to install new keyboards and get used to whole new styles of inputting text, just because the supplied keyboard isn't up to scratch. Personally I don't want to learn how to 'swype'.
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Jeez, lighten up - there's nothing to learn, you just swipe your finger on the letters and that's it. If I wanted to type 'jerk' I would put my finger on J, drag to E, then drag to R and finally drag to K and that's it.
Hardly involves a learning curve... plus, that's just one option. If you don't like HTC's keyboard try another normal QWERTY keyboard, nobody's forcing you to try one of these newfangled keyboards. FingerKeyboard is a standard one and works better than HTC's IMO.
I use the standard HTC keyboard. I grip the device with my palms and type using my thumbs. My hands are freaking huge.
I can get approx 30wpm.
The auto-correct feature is simply amazing
I just came from a TYTNII with Hardware keyboard and we VERY worried about getting the HD2 without a keyboard as i type e-mail and SMS from my phone regularly for work purposes. So my choices were the HD2 or Touch Pro 2... The HD2 just had WAY too many PROS compared to the Touch Pro 2, so i took the plunge and got the HD2 and resolved myself to if i can't type well enough, then i'll just put up with the frustration or wait till i get back to the office to reply. Well, i was pleasantly surprised and can type fairly fast, probably SLIGHTLY slower than the hardware keyboard. I also have FAT fingers. I think the capacitive screen and multi-touch work in its favor to make typing a bit better on this phone than a normal (old type) touch screen. So, all in all, VERY happy with the HD2 without hardware keyboard. Oh, and i type in PORTRAIT mode, not Landscape!!! If i could marry my HD2, i would!
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If i could marry my HD2, i would!
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Hmm, I think that's in legal in Kentucky actually.
Well, in my country, our president just married his 5th wife with another on the way. He now has 18 children (of his own)! There should be no problems marrying my HD2...
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I just came from a TYTNII with Hardware keyboard and we VERY worried about getting the HD2 without a keyboard as i type e-mail and SMS from my phone regularly for work purposes. So my choices were the HD2 or Touch Pro 2... The HD2 just had WAY too many PROS compared to the Touch Pro 2, so i took the plunge and got the HD2 and resolved myself to if i can't type well enough, then i'll just put up with the frustration or wait till i get back to the office to reply. Well, i was pleasantly surprised and can type fairly fast, probably SLIGHTLY slower than the hardware keyboard. I also have FAT fingers. I think the capacitive screen and multi-touch work in its favor to make typing a bit better on this phone than a normal (old type) touch screen. So, all in all, VERY happy with the HD2 without hardware keyboard. Oh, and i type in PORTRAIT mode, not Landscape!!! If i could marry my HD2, i would!
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He he nice! I love my HD2 too. I came from a Kaiser as well and my reservation was losing the superb hardware keyboard.
I found the HD2's standard keyboard flawed. The problem isn't the sensitivity as such but the fact that the keys are too small and close together. With an improved design it could be great.
BUT I found my solution, SWYPE! What a god send! I'm actually significantly faster with Swype than I was with my old Kaiser hardware keyboard. It really is that good. I am almost as fast as a PC keyboard.
And as for learning it, well it takes no time. I have demonstrated it to several people who have had a go and within a minute they are Oooing and arrring as they Swype words with ease. It's so intuitive there really is very little learning or adaptation required.
Hi
Does anyone with Nexus one had experience with cell phone with a physical keyboard?
I am looking to know how good is the N1 keyboard compared to milestone or cliq or backflip...?
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Well... I used to use a Blackberry 8830 personally... Sure, it's more of a portrait setup, but whatever..
Either way, the N1 w/ Haptic feedback enabled is actually quite easy to use. Obviously it'll still take some getting used to, but it's plenty good for me. Without the feedback, it'd be a completely different story imho.
What I've learned is this: With time, you'll be just as comfortable with a virtual keyboard. Though there IS a learning curve.
honestly, with the text correction, it works great. I'm coming from an xperia, and a TYTN II, so I've been with physical keyboards for a while.
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honestly, with the text correction, it works great. I'm coming from an xperia, and a TYTN II, so I've been with physical keyboards for a while.
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This ^^^
This is a huge bonus once you get settled. You'll need to edit in some of your own personal corrections (Hold down on the word you wish to add to auto-correction until is says "Saved"). You'll end up incorrectly correcting some commonly used words initially. My main ones are apps (usually changes to Alps ) and "Haha" which changes to Bahamas... Everyone will find a few words that auto-correct in ways you wish they didn't
But yeah... Earlier, I don't recall exactly what I was sending to my wife... but "Bolton" made its way into my sentence. LOL!
Oh... Don't forget! You can use Speech-to-Text on this device. Simply swipe your finger to the right edge on the keyboard, and it brings up a speech menu. With practice, you may find that you actually prefer it. (Again, this will take some self-training, due to the way we all enunciate things differently)
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Does anyone with Nexus one had experience with cell phone with a physical keyboard?
I am looking to know how good is the N1 keyboard compared to milestone or cliq or backflip...?
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I used the 6800, TP and then the TP2 for reference. I was convinced that I *needed* a physical keyboard as typing on the soft keyboards of the above mentioned phones was always error prone for me. The TP2 was better than the others due to the larger screen size, but still was not as easy as the hardware keyboard.
With that said the soft keyboard on the Nexus One (with haptic feedback enabled) is really easier to type on than the above phones. At this point I don't feel that I need the hardware keyboard any longer, but there is definitely a bit of time required to get used to the soft keyboard if you are used to a hardware keyboard.
I would say the soft keyboard with auto correct is actually quite good on the Nexus One. It works well enough that I am not motivated to sell the phone and get a new one, so it can't be all bad
As far as typing goes, is there any way to change input language? I am Brazilian and I have to change it to Portuguese-br in order to type...
Like everyone else on here generally seems to agree, once you actually get used to it, it won't be an issue for you. And if you get the HTC_IME, (I know, it looks kinda pixelated, but not so much so that I can't deal with) it makes things even better.
It's really good once you get used to it. I'm using Swype at the moment which is even more awesome, but no voice dictation on it yet. The funniest auto-correction for me so far was "haha" to "bahamas," and I forget what I texted someone, but it ended up sending "burial phone."
Feels very solid... Keyboard is pretty good to type on, although the space bar on mine doesn't feel great. Feels a little too spongey as compared to the other keys. Might be just mine.
It's pretty easy to get the tablet in and out. Battery life is freakin' awesome and it's too cool having the SD slot available. Haven't tried the USB ports yet. Have had one of the trackpad lockups so far.
It`s too bad and I hope they fix it quickly because the trackpad is excellent. Very smooth and comfortable to the touch and the button works well.
All in all, for $550, I am very impressed. It will be difficult to go back to a laptop without an IPS screen now. Honeycomb, while definitely needing some love, is powerful and fun to use. The Transformer feels good as a tablet, and even nicer having the ability to be become an Android netbook in an instant.
I think back to buying the first white EEE with it's what, 4gb SSD? Technology is fascinating and moving so quickly. It's a great time to be using these tools / toys.
Good write-up. The tablet and keyboard combo are pretty impressive. Honeycomb is also impressing me more and more. I just wish there were some better options for certain categories of apps (FTP, text editing, word processing, etc.), but I know the apps are coming.
Hopefully Asus will resolve the keyboard lockup issues soon.
You dont happen to have a sdxc card to try? Spec say its supported but would like to know hands on
Sorry, I just have a 16gb SDHC.
I'm so far very impressed with mine. I'm typing on it right now. Definitely not as good as typing on a full size keyboard. Currenty there is a little delay from pressing the keys to when you see it in the browser. Probably the broweser or software rather than the keyboard. The multi touch scrolling works quite well. I haven't ran into the keyboard trackpad freezing bug and I have been using it for about an hour. The hot keys can be very handy. There's one for taking a screenshot, which is pretty cool. Does anyone know why the 1 and 6 keys have the circles? Very impressed with the combo even though honeycomb wasn't designed for it.
EDIT: editing this post with the opera mobile browser doesn't have the lag. There's definitely and issue with the default browser and delay in typing on the keyboard. The opera browser is nice, but it doesn't resize pages when zoomed in.
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I'm so far very impressed with mine. I'm typing on it right now. Definitely not as good as typing on a full size keyboard. Currenty there is a little delay from pressing the keys to when you see it in the browser. Probably the broweser or software rather than the keyboard. The multi touch scrolling works quite well. I haven't ran into the keyboard trackpad freezing bug and I have been using it for about an hour. The hot keys can be very handy. There's one for taking a screenshot, which is pretty cool. Does anyone know why the 1 and 6 keys have the circles? Very impressed with the combo even though honeycomb wasn't designed for it.
EDIT: editing this post with the opera mobile browser doesn't have the lag. There's definitely and issue with the default browser and delay in typing on the keyboard. The opera browser is nice, but it doesn't resize pages when zoomed in.
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How about apps like Polaris Office? Any lag there?
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There is a little bit of lag with polaris and the dock, but not enough to bother you. I was used to an Asus Eee Netbook, and with just the tablet some things get annoying. Alot of the websites have lag that is noticeable, namely facebook. it will take some getting used to, but with the dock it makes it exponentially better.
The main thing that is bugging me is all of the little short-cuts, as I have mentioned in another thread. Not being able to hold down Ctrl to open a link into a new tab is going to get some getting used to / etc.
Overall, I think you will be pleased with the experience. I was mildly skeptical of a tablet on honeycomb that had a keyboard attach to it, but it turns it into a close to windows netbook experience that is acceptable. The added benefits of a non-touchscreen tablet are far outweighed. I would choose my transformer with docking keyboard over a regular netbook any day.
Just out of curiousity, do you see the lag when using the default browser?
Is the lag still there if you use a different browser? (Like wynand32 tried with Opera.)
I am at work now, so I can't try it on mine. I love this thing, but I am pretty frustrated with the keyboard stopping working all the time. Asus better fix that quick. I swear, I'd be close to selling the bundle and checking back in a few months but I wouldn't feel right selling them right now....
The fun of being an early adopter!
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Just out of curiousity, do you see the lag when using the default browser?
Is the lag still there if you use a different browser? (Like wynand32 tried with Opera.)
I am at work now, so I can't try it on mine. I love this thing, but I am pretty frustrated with the keyboard stopping working all the time. Asus better fix that quick. I swear, I'd be close to selling the bundle and checking back in a few months but I wouldn't feel right selling them right now....
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So far the delay in typing to when you see the text on the screen is only in the default browser. It works fine when typing in the url/search bar, but when typing in text boxes on a web page, there is significant lag. I have opera mobile, and it doesn't have lag.
I would test polaris office, but I'm not at home with my tablet right now.
Also, so far no freezing keyboard bug for me. Used it for about 3 hours last night, and left it docked all night, and was still working in the morning.
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So far the delay in typing to when you see the text on the screen is only in the default browser. It works fine when typing in the url/search bar, but when typing in text boxes on a web page, there is significant lag. I have opera mobile, and it doesn't have lag.
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Just FYI I get notable lag typing in textareas on the default browser even when using a software keyboard, I think its a problem with the textarea rendering not a specific input device.
Is the spacing of the keyboard any better than a netbook? I have an asus 10 inch netbook and find the keyboard too cramp to type effectively.
Due to the size of the tablet, it's actually spaced pretty well.
Not as good as a full keyboard, but it's not bad.
Does the touch screen still operate when docked and how well?
Yep, and it works very well!
(It's cool to reach up and touch the screen.)
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Is the spacing of the keyboard any better than a netbook? I have an asus 10 inch netbook and find the keyboard too cramp to type effectively.
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It is smaller than a normal keyboard. 92% of full size according to Asus. I find it fine to type on if you have really big hands it lay be more difficult. My main issue is my palms hit the trackpad quite a bit.
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Yes... just as well. Watch/read reviews people. Most questions are answered in them.
played with mine for a bit. 2 very big pluses.
1. can read ntfs formatted disks. i haven't tried write, but reading from my portable wd driver it works wonderfully.
2. spare emergency phone (or any usb device) charger. i'd assume it could only pump out 5 watts since it's usb 2.0.
holy smokes! full read AND write to ntfs drives. this makes hauling movies and storage almost a non-issue.
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played with mine for a bit. 2 very big pluses.
1. can read ntfs formatted disks. i haven't tried write, but reading from my portable wd driver it works wonderfully.
2. spare emergency phone (or any usb device) charger. i'd assume it could only pump out 5 watts since it's usb 2.0.
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Can you confirm that the dock will indeed charge a smartphone? That would be a pretty significant plus I'd not thought of...
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holy smokes! full read AND write to ntfs drives. this makes hauling movies and storage almost a non-issue.
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How is the interface? Does it pop up a home screen icon or file browser when you plug the drive in?
there was so much hype about the keyboard when it came out and i had a thread in august or july about how it is totally overpriced at $150 and i thought $108-115 was a reasonable MSRP.
now that im typing on it, it really isnt that great. the keys are pretty cramped and i'm used to my mechanical keyboard so i keep missing keystrokes, thinking the keys will activate halfway down the stroke. instead of having to bottom them out. if the chicklet keys were more crisp it would be more tolerable but they are squishy and there is no definitive bottom out lol
cringing while i type this, anyone want to buy it?
and the reason im making this thread is because people ridiculed me for like 6 pages about how it's the best thing ever and they would pay 200 for it LOL
I could steal it....
Just messing, it is just like any new keyboard takes a bit of getting used to.
Saying that with it sat on the sofa as I type adding to the bounce probably pressed delete 10 times typing this out after making mistakes.
Honestly though you do get used to it and I use it all the time typing long emails or even creating quotes at work etc.
How long you had it ?
How much you willing to sell it for?
For typing long e-mails, this keyboard is much better than using the soft keyboard. It's definitely not perfect and if it were just a keyboard, I'm not sure I would have bought it but it also has a nice high capacity battery and that makes it better than any other keyboard on the market for tablets.
However it has 2 big issues for me:
1) Touchpad is way too sensitive forcing me to turn is off while I type.
2) Keys must be slammed on to complete a keystroke. Literally I feel like I'm driving down on each stroke which makes typing slower and more cumbersome.
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Yep, definitely, the only downside to this keyboard is the touchpad. It's good that it's a tablet though because I always turn it off..
the battery is excellent i'll give it that
At the beginning I was like you, but 3 months later (or something like that), it's over. You just need to use it often, and it'll be better.
If you read the reviews at all, that have been out for a year now, you would know that the keyboard is crap. But it's a netbook keyboard and it's a one of a kind item. Yes, I would pay $200 for the keyboard because without the keyboard this tablet is worthless. Both in the aspect of the GTab 10.1 being superior tablet, and that I wouldn't want a tablet that I couldn't use as a netbook.
Do you people really just go out and buy things without doing any research/reading any reviews? Shame...
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i bought it so i could put windows xp on it but there was no cd rom bay
chatch15117 said:
i bought it so i could put windows xp on it but there was no cd rom bay
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Lol, try Splashtop and make an RDP connection to your pc. Windows 7 on your tablet! Even better, use a good wireless keyboard connected to your pc to be able to sit in front of the tablet and use good old Office in stead of the crappy Office wannabee software such as Polaris. Saved me from buying an totally overpriced and dodgy Asus keyboard.
Martijn1971 said:
Lol, try Splashtop and make an RDP connection to your pc. Windows 7 on your tablet! Even better, use a good wireless keyboard connected to your pc to be able to sit in front of the tablet and use good old Office in stead of the crappy Office wannabee software such as Polaris. Saved me from buying an totally overpriced and dodgy Asus keyboard.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373965
It isn't a full size keyboard. That should have been obvious before buying it. It isn't meant to replace a computer. Don't like it, return it or sell it. No reason for the thread. Personal preference is just that.
Gary13579 said:
If you read the reviews at all, that have been out for a year now, you would know that the keyboard is crap. But it's a netbook keyboard and it's a one of a kind item. Yes, I would pay $200 for the keyboard because without the keyboard this tablet is worthless. Both in the aspect of the GTab 10.1 being superior tablet, and that I wouldn't want a tablet that I couldn't use as a netbook.
Do you people really just go out and buy things without doing any research/reading any reviews? Shame...
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Keyboard is crap? I've owned the keyboard dock since day one and I find it indispensable. In fact, the transformer is just another ordinary tablet without it.
Then again, I need my device for business use. Perhaps those who don't like it, simply don't have a need for it.
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i like the idea of the keyboard but these scissor switches are terrible
does anyone here actually have a mechanical keyboard?
I have used my keyboard for my last year of school and I would say that 75% of my use is with the keyboard on mine.. I agree that the keyboard is what makes the tablet.. Yes it is different then a regular keyboard.. its the same size as most netbook keyboards.. 92% of full size right?
I didnt like it at first either, but after a month on it, I can type just as fast on my transformers keyboard as I can on any of my other keyboards.. just have to give it some time.
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i like the idea of the keyboard but these scissor switches are terrible
does anyone here actually have a mechanical keyboard?
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I do, a Siig keyboard with Cherry Mx Blues (wanted to get a Das but I didn't have the cash for it).
I mean honestly, I've been typing on keyboards since I was a toddler (used to play with my mom's old portable IBM computer back when she was a consultant manager). Some keyboards are much more comfortable to type on than others depending on layouts and the technology under the hood so to speak, but with a little time you tend to get used to whatever you're stuck on (unless the keyboard in question is inherently broken, your hands are way too big, etc.)
For quick notes in class, my transformer is now simply awesome. Before I got my dock, it was a Netflix bed machine and not much else. After grabbing my dock from CL for $60, I actually have a handly little netbook/tablet now.
If you don't like it, that doesn't affect how much enjoyment I'll be getting out of mine. I hope you do come to enjoy the newfound utility of your Transformer though.
USB ports. That is all.
EP2008 said:
Keyboard is crap? I've owned the keyboard dock since day one and I find it indispensable. In fact, the transformer is just another ordinary tablet without it.
Then again, I need my device for business use. Perhaps those who don't like it, simply don't have a need for it.
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Did you read my post? I said that it was absolutely necessary, as the device p much sucks without it. That doesn't stop the keyboard from being total ****. It's very difficult to type on, even compared to normal notebook keyboards.
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I use my keyboard daily! I blog a bit, do lots of business emails on it (much better than typing on an iPhone all day).
I always end up turning off the touchpad to type.
I would not buy a tablet without a real keyboard after having one.
BUT - That is my preference. Not everyone feels the same way about the keyboard.
And one great side effect is when someone asks you about your "laptop" or "netbook" and you tell them it is not either, but it is a tablet. Then you get to watch them have a nerdgasm when you undock it and keep using it.