there was so much hype about the keyboard when it came out and i had a thread in august or july about how it is totally overpriced at $150 and i thought $108-115 was a reasonable MSRP.
now that im typing on it, it really isnt that great. the keys are pretty cramped and i'm used to my mechanical keyboard so i keep missing keystrokes, thinking the keys will activate halfway down the stroke. instead of having to bottom them out. if the chicklet keys were more crisp it would be more tolerable but they are squishy and there is no definitive bottom out lol
cringing while i type this, anyone want to buy it?
and the reason im making this thread is because people ridiculed me for like 6 pages about how it's the best thing ever and they would pay 200 for it LOL
I could steal it....
Just messing, it is just like any new keyboard takes a bit of getting used to.
Saying that with it sat on the sofa as I type adding to the bounce probably pressed delete 10 times typing this out after making mistakes.
Honestly though you do get used to it and I use it all the time typing long emails or even creating quotes at work etc.
How long you had it ?
How much you willing to sell it for?
For typing long e-mails, this keyboard is much better than using the soft keyboard. It's definitely not perfect and if it were just a keyboard, I'm not sure I would have bought it but it also has a nice high capacity battery and that makes it better than any other keyboard on the market for tablets.
However it has 2 big issues for me:
1) Touchpad is way too sensitive forcing me to turn is off while I type.
2) Keys must be slammed on to complete a keystroke. Literally I feel like I'm driving down on each stroke which makes typing slower and more cumbersome.
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Yep, definitely, the only downside to this keyboard is the touchpad. It's good that it's a tablet though because I always turn it off..
the battery is excellent i'll give it that
At the beginning I was like you, but 3 months later (or something like that), it's over. You just need to use it often, and it'll be better.
If you read the reviews at all, that have been out for a year now, you would know that the keyboard is crap. But it's a netbook keyboard and it's a one of a kind item. Yes, I would pay $200 for the keyboard because without the keyboard this tablet is worthless. Both in the aspect of the GTab 10.1 being superior tablet, and that I wouldn't want a tablet that I couldn't use as a netbook.
Do you people really just go out and buy things without doing any research/reading any reviews? Shame...
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i bought it so i could put windows xp on it but there was no cd rom bay
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i bought it so i could put windows xp on it but there was no cd rom bay
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Lol, try Splashtop and make an RDP connection to your pc. Windows 7 on your tablet! Even better, use a good wireless keyboard connected to your pc to be able to sit in front of the tablet and use good old Office in stead of the crappy Office wannabee software such as Polaris. Saved me from buying an totally overpriced and dodgy Asus keyboard.
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Lol, try Splashtop and make an RDP connection to your pc. Windows 7 on your tablet! Even better, use a good wireless keyboard connected to your pc to be able to sit in front of the tablet and use good old Office in stead of the crappy Office wannabee software such as Polaris. Saved me from buying an totally overpriced and dodgy Asus keyboard.
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It isn't a full size keyboard. That should have been obvious before buying it. It isn't meant to replace a computer. Don't like it, return it or sell it. No reason for the thread. Personal preference is just that.
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If you read the reviews at all, that have been out for a year now, you would know that the keyboard is crap. But it's a netbook keyboard and it's a one of a kind item. Yes, I would pay $200 for the keyboard because without the keyboard this tablet is worthless. Both in the aspect of the GTab 10.1 being superior tablet, and that I wouldn't want a tablet that I couldn't use as a netbook.
Do you people really just go out and buy things without doing any research/reading any reviews? Shame...
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Keyboard is crap? I've owned the keyboard dock since day one and I find it indispensable. In fact, the transformer is just another ordinary tablet without it.
Then again, I need my device for business use. Perhaps those who don't like it, simply don't have a need for it.
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i like the idea of the keyboard but these scissor switches are terrible
does anyone here actually have a mechanical keyboard?
I have used my keyboard for my last year of school and I would say that 75% of my use is with the keyboard on mine.. I agree that the keyboard is what makes the tablet.. Yes it is different then a regular keyboard.. its the same size as most netbook keyboards.. 92% of full size right?
I didnt like it at first either, but after a month on it, I can type just as fast on my transformers keyboard as I can on any of my other keyboards.. just have to give it some time.
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i like the idea of the keyboard but these scissor switches are terrible
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I do, a Siig keyboard with Cherry Mx Blues (wanted to get a Das but I didn't have the cash for it).
I mean honestly, I've been typing on keyboards since I was a toddler (used to play with my mom's old portable IBM computer back when she was a consultant manager). Some keyboards are much more comfortable to type on than others depending on layouts and the technology under the hood so to speak, but with a little time you tend to get used to whatever you're stuck on (unless the keyboard in question is inherently broken, your hands are way too big, etc.)
For quick notes in class, my transformer is now simply awesome. Before I got my dock, it was a Netflix bed machine and not much else. After grabbing my dock from CL for $60, I actually have a handly little netbook/tablet now.
If you don't like it, that doesn't affect how much enjoyment I'll be getting out of mine. I hope you do come to enjoy the newfound utility of your Transformer though.
USB ports. That is all.
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Keyboard is crap? I've owned the keyboard dock since day one and I find it indispensable. In fact, the transformer is just another ordinary tablet without it.
Then again, I need my device for business use. Perhaps those who don't like it, simply don't have a need for it.
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Did you read my post? I said that it was absolutely necessary, as the device p much sucks without it. That doesn't stop the keyboard from being total ****. It's very difficult to type on, even compared to normal notebook keyboards.
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I use my keyboard daily! I blog a bit, do lots of business emails on it (much better than typing on an iPhone all day).
I always end up turning off the touchpad to type.
I would not buy a tablet without a real keyboard after having one.
BUT - That is my preference. Not everyone feels the same way about the keyboard.
And one great side effect is when someone asks you about your "laptop" or "netbook" and you tell them it is not either, but it is a tablet. Then you get to watch them have a nerdgasm when you undock it and keep using it.
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After keeping up with over 8000 posts of trying to get the Transformer, I gave in and spent the extra 50 for the Acer.
1) It was readily available at my local BB.
2) I didn't want to wait.
Im hoping before my 2 week return policy is up, transformers will start showing up and I can get one locally. If not, I have 14 days to decide if I keep the Acer or not.
Bottom line, Acer is nice. We also have an Ipad and NC in our household, and really, as a daily user, I don't see much difference between the Acer LCD and the IPS.
Internet loads faster than the Ipad. I havent tested everything but for what I use it for, its working fine.
My point: Try the Acer from your local BB. It may fit the need for the extra 50.
Or, cross our fingers and maybe Target will have a coupon code to get it sub 400 if and when it arrives May 15.
The acer doesn't look bad until you put side by side with the transformer.
Understandable!
Definitely be interested in hearing your impressions and what you like / don't like about it.
I love my Transformer, but there are a couple things that are pretty neat about the Acer, including haptic feedback and a USB port...
I personally only went with the Transformer because of the keyboard dock.
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Not sure how you can say that. I've owned an iPad, NC - had an Acer for about 3 days from BB, and my TF came in a few days ago - world's difference between the IPS and non-IPS screens.
I love the Transformer and would heavily recommend against Acer. In addition to the screen - it's too bulky (yes I know on paper it's 50g but I could really feel it), not a fan of the aluminium back, hardware buttons are hard to get to (the rotation lock button was impossible to operate on 1st try). The pluses are USB host and rear camera flash but I was ok giving those up simply for the screen.
(My 2 cents...)
I'm waiting for my B&H order to come in after May 31st. If Samsung announces that their 10.1 has something other than Tegra2 and that out of the box their Exynos or Orion SoC can play 720p high profile than I'll cancel my order and wait til June 8.
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http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/tablets/asus/
touch screen grid
From what I've heard and pictures i've seen, the touch screen grid is VERY visible on the acer. This would drive me crazy.
Yes, the touch screen grid is visible but you really have to look for it.
Just enjoy the money spent and stop looking for something bad.
I can also agree with the other poster about the Ipad and Acer side by side. Of course you'll see a difference. Ex) G-tablet, very bad screen on its own, but side-by-side to anything else, of course it looks alot worse.
Me perosonally, I wanted it to be slightly thinner as far as holding it in portrait mode. I don't like the wider bezel transformer was taking up. Im using some version of a thumb keyboard that seems to work ok for me.
I haven't tested all the bells and whistles yet. I have downloaded a few apps and suprisingly, no force closes yet.
Now to the dock. Thats up to another 150, so you actually paying 550 transformer with dock before tax. From what i understand, my usb kb and mouse should work, free of charge. Or up to 50 something.
Extra battery life....ok. I can see if you travel alot, its understandable.
But I work 12 hours a day, work with kid's homework and make time for them, so I don't plan on using it hard like others.
Thats just how I see things, it works for me now, but if I do get a chance to play with a Transformer before my 14 days are up, I may switch. Who knows. But im not gonna hold my breath.
And sorry for not knowing how to use quotes...
I had the acer for a while, and yes it was nice. A little bulky (not sure the transformer is any different, I haven't received mine yet), the grid drove me nuts (I hardly ever saw it, but when I did it was really annoying and grabbed my attention).
The screen looked nice, but nothing like the ipad2 screen I saw. I'd still say it's worth the money if you don't care about the keyboard dock or if you need usb right on the tablet. My fiancee played with the acer while I had it, and now she bugs me every day about getting another one.
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Yes, the touch screen grid is visible but you really have to look for it.
Just enjoy the money spent and stop looking for something bad.
I can also agree with the other poster about the Ipad and Acer side by side. Of course you'll see a difference. Ex) G-tablet, very bad screen on its own, but side-by-side to anything else, of course it looks alot worse.
Me perosonally, I wanted it to be slightly thinner as far as holding it in portrait mode. I don't like the wider bezel transformer was taking up. Im using some version of a thumb keyboard that seems to work ok for me.
I haven't tested all the bells and whistles yet. I have downloaded a few apps and suprisingly, no force closes yet.
Now to the dock. Thats up to another 150, so you actually paying 550 transformer with dock before tax. From what i understand, my usb kb and mouse should work, free of charge. Or up to 50 something.
Extra battery life....ok. I can see if you travel alot, its understandable.
But I work 12 hours a day, work with kid's homework and make time for them, so I don't plan on using it hard like others.
Thats just how I see things, it works for me now, but if I do get a chance to play with a Transformer before my 14 days are up, I may switch. Who knows. But im not gonna hold my breath.
And sorry for not knowing how to use quotes...
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I can't enjoy spending more money on a lesser product, it's why I generally don't buy apple
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I can't enjoy spending more money on a lesser product, it's why I generally don't buy apple
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my thoughts exactly.
toddmp said:
my thoughts exactly.
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Seriously?
Because while I am loving Honeycomb, my iPad 2 is killing my Transformer in speed, available apps, stability, interface consistency, size, build quality, speaker quality, battery life, media player quality....
Of course, there is a reason I am trying out Honeycomb... I like new technology!
(And I'd really like a microsd slot, but Steve says no! )
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Seriously?
Because while I am loving Honeycomb, my iPad 2 is killing my Transformer in speed, available apps, stability, interface consistency, size, build quality, speaker quality, battery life, media player quality....
Of course, there is a reason I am trying out Honeycomb... I'd really like a microsd slot, but Steve says no!
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I had an iPad I now gave to the misses, and it just felt like my 3GS on a bigger screen. Honeycomb feels like an actual tablet OS, even if it has it's flaws. Also the transformers sound is better, no use arguing with that since iPad only does mono sound. App availability is also not completely true, since I can't use iPhone apps properly on my iPad since it just blows em up making them generally look really bad or keeps em in a small box making them not attractive either. However Android apps generally scale to the tablet format well.
Speed can't really tell the difference, I have a custom ROM which might make a difference though. All other points are true though. But you don't buy a transformer at this point to get a finished product, you buy it on potential due to honeycomb needing to mature.
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Totally agree with that one! Being able to connect a hard drive, keyboard, usb stick, etc. That's awesome!
As for app availability I'm finding the actual Honeycomb/tablet apps in short supply while there are many, many tablet specific apps on the Apple App Store.
The speakers on the iPad maybe be mono, but it sounds better to me.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I love both (well, I will love my Transformer again after a firmware update) but I just thought Apple didn't deserve such a hard knock.
You can hate their computers (I mean because of the price, locked in aspect and some people's dislike of OSX) but their tablets and phones are pretty nice.
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Totally agree with that one! Being able to connect a hard drive, keyboard, usb stick, etc. That's awesome!
As for app availability I'm finding the actual Honeycomb/tablet apps in short supply while there are many, many tablet specific apps on the Apple App Store.
The speakers on the iPad maybe be mono, but it sounds better to me.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I love both (well, I will love my Transformer again after a firmware update) but I just thought Apple didn't deserve such a hard knock.
You can hate their computers (I mean because of the price, locked in aspect and some people's dislike of OSX) but their tablets and phones are pretty nice.
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I said apple in general, as I stated I owned an iPad and an iPhone 3GS, not everything they make is horribly overpriced, but in general they are.
and my point is that there are a ton of regular android apps that work really well on honeycomb, even though they don't get counted as "tablet apps".
I wasn't specifically knocking the iPad, just apple in general.
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I had the acer for a while, and yes it was nice. A little bulky (not sure the transformer is any different, I haven't received mine yet), the grid drove me nuts (I hardly ever saw it, but when I did it was really annoying and grabbed my attention).
The screen looked nice, but nothing like the ipad2 screen I saw. I'd still say it's worth the money if you don't care about the keyboard dock or if you need usb right on the tablet. My fiancee played with the acer while I had it, and now she bugs me every day about getting another one.
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I compared them side by side, weight was one of the major issue for me but that probably just me.
Ok, so the Transformer has firmly ensconced itself in my "Digital Lifestyle" (tm).. why am I posting this? Because with all the pieces starting to fall into place, this device is really still sitting there as the new hotness..
Those pieces are.. (ok, they probably won't mean much to your average joe consumer, but given the often bumpy ride we've taken to get here, means a lot to me..)
Timely updates from Asus (yeah, Honeycomb 3.1 delivered on time as promised put a big smile on many faces)
The Dock (and its subsequent fixes)
Increasing number of apps
Slowly increasing selection of accessories (yeah, I like my FolioGuard)
I'll admit to being a happy consumer of Apple's IPad First Gen.. I know its not for everyone, but for me and the missus, having a tablet to just pick up and use for web surfing, email, showing pictures, watching episodes of Fringe in a hotel room on a rained out holiday etc., the ease of use of a tablet class device both at home and when travelling for "media consumption" was something that fit right into our household needs...
..Unfortunately, with the iPad there was always something "missing".. The Wife wondered whether she'd be able to take it away to work conferences as a replacement for her netbook - giving her superior battery life, a better screen and just better "comfort" ergonomics.. The answer was no dice.. Given that as part of her work she had a need to handle decrypting and encrypting emails (amongst other things that necessitated her carrying at least a netbook class device and the overal 'flexibility' of a full fleged OS) the iOS solutions that existed were just for want of a better word.. messy..
..Then Google teased us all with glimpses of Honeycomb and Asus teased us further with the Transformer and what just might be possible..
Fast forward a little while and one quick install of K9 with APG later.. job done..
She's off to another conference in Paris tomorrow, wants to take my beloved TF with her.. to see if she really can replace her netbook and extra batteries, with it and the dock.. see how she gets on with the better screen and superior battery life... see how she copes with doing the things she'd normally feel confident doing with a PC O/S... so far, all her key bases have been covered courtesy of the Android Market and a little learning curve.. but time will tell..
I do know that she also wanted to copy some episodes of Grey's Anatomy she'd recorded and put on her USB stick, to the tablet's SD card for watching on the flight if she didn't have the dock handy.. She took my TF to work today, to see how she got on with it, without me hovering like an anxious parent.. I got an instant message a short while later saying the files had been copied via to dock and she'd tested them in Moboplayer just fine..
..In an iOS world.. forget it.. (ok, not without a trip home to dock the ipad to the mothership, fire up iTunes.. copy/sync the .avi files to CineXPlayer and hope its compatible.. hardly the end of the world but, let's be honest.. its a faff fo' sho')
The thing is.. I was left with the 'old' iPad today, for my casual surfing/the usual XDA lurking etc... and as great as that device still is.. it felt... primative.. behind the times.. I've seen the future of iOS as have a great many of you.. and it feels.. well.. lets just say its going to be a long week without my transformer (minor light bleed and the occasional force close - how I shall miss thee)
Quick question (for any owners really). With the dock, do you still get the touch screen? A lot of reviews don't really mention that, they either mention how much the do or do not like the touch pad, but don't bring up if they can still use the touch screen in conjunction. Not a HUGE deal per say, but I am curious.
The touchscreen is still fully usable when docked!
Transformer rocks!
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Quick question (for any owners really). With the dock, do you still get the touch screen? A lot of reviews don't really mention that, they either mention how much the do or do not like the touch pad, but don't bring up if they can still use the touch screen in conjunction. Not a HUGE deal per say, but I am curious.
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Yes the touchscreen is still fully operational. The touchpad is nice, but still too sensitive, needs to be updated to not be so touchy, so a lot of times I disable it and just touch the screen. Works great.
It sure is cool having a netbook formfactor type device with a fully functioning multi-touch screen.. you'll feel weird going back to a 'normal' laptop/netbook after using it
I find it interesting how I adapted some sort half-screen, half-keyboard interaction with the transformer. I always thought when I got it that I would do one or the other while using it - now it is like use keyboard, keyboard short-cut here, tap screen, tap screen, keyboard short-cut, tap, keyboard etc. etc.
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I find it interesting how I adapted some sort half-screen, half-keyboard interaction with the transformer. I always thought when I got it that I would do one or the other while using it - now it is like use keyboard, keyboard short-cut here, tap screen, tap screen, keyboard short-cut, tap, keyboard etc. etc.
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LOL, same here. I was using my laptop the other day and i started touching the screen before i realized that it didnt have a touch screen .
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It sure is cool having a netbook formfactor type device with a fully functioning multi-touch screen.. you'll feel weird going back to a 'normal' laptop/netbook after using it
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Like when you pick up someone's old dumb phone and try to open something up by touching it, then tapping it, then pounding it, then remembering a time before touch screens?
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I find it interesting how I adapted some sort half-screen, half-keyboard interaction with the transformer. I always thought when I got it that I would do one or the other while using it - now it is like use keyboard, keyboard short-cut here, tap screen, tap screen, keyboard short-cut, tap, keyboard etc. etc.
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Same with me. I kept trying to touch my dads laptop screen to click icons. Really is a super nice experience with the option for both input methods
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Like when you pick up someone's old dumb phone and try to open something up by touching it, then tapping it, then pounding it, then remembering a time before touch screens?
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Soooooooo true
I'm finding the more I use it, the more new things I can do with it and poor PC must think its days are numbered,the dock just makes it, and while having to tweak certain things to your liking to me that's what makes mine feel unique
ASUS TRANSFORMER PRIMED
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I'm finding the more I use it, the more new things I can do with it and poor PC must think its days are numbered,the dock just makes it, and while having to tweak certain things to your liking to me that's what makes mine feel unique
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Since my G1 I have realized half the fun of android is the tweaking. However everyone keeps bringing up the dock. My plan is to just get the tablet for now, and once my school money starts rolling in again i will pick up the dock. Will I be less than satisfied until then?
I hate admitting it but I am guessing a majority of it's use during the summer with be dungeon defenders and http://www.gamesforcats.com/... DON'T JUDGE ME!
Still no update for me.
I do not plan on rooting it or force the update though.
haha i agree with all of this my TF with dock is the best.. never use my laptop much anymore.. especially due to the keyboard. And just like a few of you when i did use my laptop i touched the screen once forgetting it wasnt touch screen.. b/c on my TF i definitely use both touch and keyboard in conjunction with each other to surf around.
TF and Honeycomb is a match made in heaven!
Hello, TF'ers. I'am asking a simple question for those who love their Transformers but for some reason is lusting after one of the other tablet's. Please list the tablet you wish you could have and why.
Thanks.
I have my TF101 and I'm happily satisfied with my purchase.
I love this thing. Nothing else comes close.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
More than happy with my TF'er. Tried the Zoom, tried the Ipad2 but neither come close. I'm mildly interested in the GT 10.2 to see what the fuss is about but the lack of SD card immediately puts a dampener on it.
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I have had every tablet out, and the iconia was ok, the screen is not as good as the TF, but at least the browser does not crash as much, no lag while trying to type, and the usb...
I am looking at the thrive... if I know what kinda of glass it will have I would order one.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once. I have 2 usb's slots and both SD and MiniSD card slots. I use a wireless mouse and BT headset nd get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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As a launch-day Pre purchaser who converted to Android in January of this year, I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the TouchPad. webOS really is SOOOO much better in terms of multitasking that I'd love to have it on a tablet.
However, there are three things that temper this notion. First, webOS does not and likely will not have the apps that I need for quite some time. The TouchPad won't even have Office document editing out the door, which is simply ridiculous. I can't believe that Samsung can completely redesign their tablet and release it in a few months, while HP can't get a single freaking app written that's absolutely vital to their product's success. Really, webOS made me promise myself never to buy something for a feature that's "coming soon."
Second, until a tablet has a keyboard dock as functional as the Transformer's, I'd have a hard time switching over. There's simply no better device for straight writing (i.e., just laying words down on the page) on the go. If HP releases a similar hybrid device someday, I'll think about it (assuming the apps are there), but Transformer is just a great all-around mobile device.
Third, while webOS is a nice OS in many ways, I'm disappointed that HP didn't design it to make better use of a tablet's screen size. Ultimately, webOS 3.X is just a blown-up version of the smartphone OS, with the same number of cards showing, only bigger. They could have done so much more with it. I really like how Honeycomb's screens can provide so much useful information at a glance. I often just turn my TF on, check to see if I have any emails, upcoming appointments, what the weather's like, etc., etc., and then just turn it back off. It's like a dashboard for my life, and so far no other tablet OS comes close in this respect.
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...........It's like a dashboard for my life.........
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Thats how I would describe it to the "T". You should sent that to Asus for branding...lmao
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Love my Transformer... But wish I have an iPad only due to the vast number of case options available. However I'm looking forward to receiving my multi-angle rooCase.
I don't undestand why you would want any other tablet (at least any other android tablet)
The TF offers everything all the other android tablets offer PLUS MORE... Anything else would just be a downgrade.
the only thing I'm lusting for currently is a fully functional Netflix app. I really love to watch movies quietly at night and currently have to switch over to my Nook Color to do this. TF is awesome, working Netflix would make it total perfection for my needs.
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Love mt TF but I always wonder if I would love the Acer Iconia A500 better.
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The Transformer is better than the iconia. I had one, the screen on it sucks and it weighs a lot more. The only things it has over the transformer are the aluminum body (I actually prefer the transformer's body but most like aluminum that I've talked to) and the speakers have more bass. IMO the transformer wins hands down.
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I have 0 lag and havent had the browser crash once.
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Bollocks
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ClevelandWheeler said:
get over 24 hours of battery life on hard use. Hwat else could you ask for?
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Did you do something special to your batteries?
I wish it had normal browser like Chrome with extensions and such. I wish it had mouse hover capabilities.
I have a XFormer, but would love a Xoom, but only to see the benefit of Internal 3G.
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Yep the grass always seems greener on the other side. I'm lucky enough to be able to try them all out. I've got the Asus Iconia, the Transformer, and iPad 2 already, and the Galaxy 10.2 is in the mail. Starting to get a better profile of how I use them. Want to copy your camera photos to the tablet? Something with an SD slot will make you happier. Have movies on an external USB hard drive? Having a standard USB port will make you giddy if you want a movie off that drive to watch on your tablet. These emotional highs are momentary moments though, and 99% of the time I'm just playing games, reading email, checking the web, facebook, youtube. Every tablet does these fine, and during that time I appreciate the lighter ones. They all have a way to add a keyboard to them. Bluetooth is easy, especially once you've paired a keyboard. Apple and Samsung have $69 keyboard docks for their thin tablet dock ports. You pay more to get the Transformer's keyboard dock, but you get a far better integrated and multi-functional add-on for your money. Hooking up to these is an inconvenience of varying degrees. You are not likely to have the iPad or Galaxy keyboard docks with you when you leave the house, so they suck. Good bluetooth keyboards are always wider than these tablets are, and as such less likely to fit in the same case with your tablet. If you've got a case for your Transformer, it is likely for netbooks and will hold both the tablet and keyboard together. So if you prefer a physical keyboard to an onscreen one, the Transformer is clearly the standout choice. You have to weigh that importance though, as that keyboard dock doubles the total weight you'll be carrying.
I've been working on a showdown between these tablets for my blog. Easy enough to ding this one and promote another for a slot or port or not. Not sure the small time these features come into play will aggravate a user enough to choose ports over weight/looks though. Money obviously play a role, as the difference between the Asus and a full set of features with its dock and an iPad with all the same features via add-ons is huge. It help that the Asus starts out $100 under the iPad. Samsung is certainly brave going head-on with Apple, I'll give them that. They must be thinking that iPad buyers didn't mind no MicroSD or USB ports, and millions were sold, so microSD and USB ports don't really matter. They might be right. Time will tell if they sell more Android Honeycomb tablets than Asus. I can't see them ever catching up to iPad sales though, with nothing to add value to iPad prices. Pay that much and you might as well get an iPad. JMHO.
I am a very happy Transformer owner, everything else (at the moment) on the market, even the ipad 2, would be downgrading.
I love my ASUS transformer too.
However, if I had to pick another table between xoom or samsung galaxy v2 10.1 or iPad.
I would get the Samsung Galaxy 10.1, I checked it out at Best Buy yesterday and it was pretty nice. No lag at all either and it was very responsive.
Sometimes my transformer feels unresponsive, and it lags but it could be due to my tons of widgets on the home screen.
However if Samsung did have a keyboard dock like transformer, I would hop on it however I heard their updates were lacking and slow to be released.
Though I like how its lighter, thinner the transformer, and looks a bit nicer. Also I enjoyed the PLS screen as it also had more VIBRANT colors then the transformer.
Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...
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Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...
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Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.
Bob Smith42 said:
Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.
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+1, and if anyone is that worried about selecting the wrong link by accident they can always use the mouse pointer via the trackpad. I've had no problem doing it this way and it's a big plus for the TF.
Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.
GeLopez said:
Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.
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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..
Lets put things into perspective here...
The tablet is not a laptop, it can perform many functions of a laptop, but it is truly not one.
It does have a place in the field. I have found that for business, being able to show information instantly to partners without having to 'boot up' or 'plug in' is essential when I want to get a point across.
It is great for email, messaging, movies, light surfing, reading, and even playing some good casual games on.
The dock makes it appear to be more like a laptop, but again.. go back to my 2nd sentence, and do not put it in a category it does not belong in.
If I need to develop, I use my Alienware mx17-r2, if I need to demo products I have my Inspiron. If I need to take notes, read a quick email, show a slide deck / video, or just look something up real quick, I have my TF101.
So this is more about how you set your expectations above what a product is intended to do, and now have buyer's remorse because of it.
Sounds like you put expectations on the device geared towards what it is not. Go get a netbook or start hackin up the ROM and tailor it to your needs.
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16 hours of battery life.
Love it.
True though...I barely ever undock it now ahahahah...so we've kind of went full circle...
It's nice to know that I can undock it though.
Even as a netbook it is sleek...IPS screen...touchscreen. The interface is just nice for what it's meant to be...a light portable machine.
I can listen to music/pandora...type up some docs...play some games...browse some web...watch some movies....read some magazines...
Edit: oh yeah...I can mount it in my car and use it as a GPS....use yelp to find nearby food places then map a route to it...(yes this can be done on phone too)...but it's kind of cool.
It's kind of nice.
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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..
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I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect
GeLopez said:
I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect
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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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my issues havent been hardwre related, just update related. That being said I dont blame Asus for my particular concerns. Im still a TF fan but just think to achieve a broader gambut of ability at the same basic price point is the wise move. Obviously this is mainly due to me personally always using the dock.
Ironically on a side note I bought one of the first asus netbooks years ago and hated it after a month. Now Im finding myself wanting to use the TF daily, go figure....
And lastly I dont think I would have even looked at m11x if the performance on this thing was simply up to par...
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This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration!
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Actually, the TF benchmarks very competitively against other Tegra 2 tablets. The only area where it's not (allegedly) hardware accelerated is in playing Flash videos in the browser.
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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
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Dave
foxmeister said:
Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
Regards,
Dave
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That wouldn't be surprising. Even 5k would be less than 1% out there by now. I mean heck, last month alone they shipped out 400k didn't they?
I'm really debating on getting the dock for my Transformer and and wanted some input.
So we'll do this is the form of a poll, but feel free to leave you feedback.
I like it, and I use it, but I find that I don't use it as much as I expected I would because I like poking the screen more .
Media dock
Personally I would love some kind of media dock with charge ability. I couldnt justify spending the extra on the keyboard.
Just purchased mine yesterday from Amazon. Should be here tomorrow with one day shipping. I'll edit this and let you know my first impressions after it arrives.
Edit: So after a few days of using my new dock, I love it!! I can't believe I waited this long to get one. It doubles as a stand, screen protector when docked and closed, extra storage space from the SDcard slot, and of course an awesome keyboard. All of the shortcuts above the number keys and the two usb ports are great too. If you are even sligtly considering getting one, I'd suggest to do it. It's a completely new experience and well worth the cash imo.
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I like it, and I use it, but I find that I don't use it as much as I expected I would because I like poking the screen more .
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Same. I have the dock installed and I use the touchscreen anyways. It's just nice for the extended battery life but the tablet itself already has a good enough battery.
Also doesn't help there are a lot of input lag in certain areas.
I don't use it much for typing, as I still prefer using the screen, but I like the charging capability (don't like leaving the tablet plugged into the wall for long periods) and the additional ports are awesome when I'm away from home (have a 32gb SD card and 500 GB external). I may not use it often, but it was a bday gift, so.
i brought mines to use has a carpc tablet.. no dock needed..lately i've been using a lot of voice programs so i can talk to my tablet.. all my friends love the idea and wants something similar in their cars.
It's pretty useful. The extra battery, USB ports and sdcard slot are awesome. They keyboard is useful when you want to type up anything longer than a sentence or simply when you don't feel like holding the tablet! The trackpad isn't nearly as useful as I thought it would be though, it's essentially useless for scrolling through webpages since there isn't a scrollbar to click, it's not really useful to navigate on the homescreen, and the biggest downfall is that you can't use it in games (along with arrow keys)! Kinda makes me wish I had gotten the Slider instead exept that it doesn't have the extra battery, which IMO is the best feature of the dock.
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Ditto--I basically use it primarily as a super-battery, espacially watching movies on flights (it's also a stand!)
Keyboard is handy only for occasional extended input--my tab doubles as a 3LB netbook.
i use it when browsing forums, like right now. it's a nice addition, i disabled the touchpad as it gets in the way of when i type.
i like the addition in battery like as well .
Everything about it is awesome, I don't see the lag everyone talks about, just finished up writing about 30 pages worth of notes in the last week without a hiccup... Used polaris office mainly, revolver ROM with prime oc kernel.
The extended battery is awesome, plus the extra inputs. I don't really use the mouse to much, only while taking notes, the only gripe I have is the touch to click is really sensitive.
The dock really takes the tab to a whole new level in my opinion and I would recommend it to most anyone... Especially since the price has gone down a bit.
I can't see the poll, but count me as one in favor of the dock.
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I use it each time I leave home for several reasons :
Gets the screen protected while carrying it
Doubles the use time (around a week with my use model)
Like typing on the keyboard when taking notes
The Transformer is excellent without the keyboard dock but its STUNNING with it.
there's more reasons to get it than to not. I absolutely recommend.
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I have one on the way... will post reflections when it comes in... !
brando56894 said:
It's pretty useful. The extra battery, USB ports and sdcard slot are awesome. They keyboard is useful when you want to type up anything longer than a sentence or simply when you don't feel like holding the tablet! The trackpad isn't nearly as useful as I thought it would be though, it's essentially useless for scrolling through webpages since there isn't a scrollbar to click, it's not really useful to navigate on the homescreen, and the biggest downfall is that you can't use it in games (along with arrow keys)! Kinda makes me wish I had gotten the Slider instead exept that it doesn't have the extra battery, which IMO is the best feature of the dock.
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To scroll with the trackpad, use a two finger scrolling gesture. You can also pinch zoom with it. You need to be in "finger pointer" instead of arrow pointer mode in settings, though (if you see a standard black/blue mouse arrow pointer, this won't work, gotta switch to the finger mode).
The dock is a must have. It makes typing so much nicer. It's replaced my notebook and is great to take the tablet off for reading news/books/papers, etc.
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I voted yes, but the money was wasted, since Asus abandoned support for the dock with the Prime, when they'd previously promised that the investment in the dock would be worthwhile since it would also work with future Transformer-series models.
Now that I know it is essentially a throwaway device that won't outlast the tablet itself, it is no longer worth the $150 to me. $70-80, sure. $150, no. (And I've bought three of them, with three tablets, for myself and family.)
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I voted yes, but the money was wasted, since Asus abandoned support for the dock with the Prime, when they'd previously promised that the investment in the dock would be worthwhile since it would also work with future Transformer-series models.
Now that I know it is essentially a throwaway device that won't outlast the tablet itself, it is no longer worth the $150 to me. $70-80, sure. $150, no. (And I've bought three of them, with three tablets, for myself and family.)
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Think of it the other way. If Asus would have reused this dock, you'd be *****ing how thick and heavy the prime would be. People like you always find something to ***** about.
I bought my TF101 from Amazon. They shipped it to Australia, perfectly fine, no issues whatsoever.
...they won't ship the Dock down under though. 'tards.
yes! I like it, its handy when the battery runs low as that. charger cable isso short. nice to use at home .
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