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Loving Hero - Leaving for Galaxy S

I've known and loved my HTC hero for a while now and my contract with Orange UK is set to expire end of September. I've been somewhat irritated by the delay with the 2.1 ROM for Hero, have tried (and not really got on with) most 2.1 ROMS and now am happily running the Modaco 3.2 with root and my new favourite: Swype!
Anyway... The thing I'm a bit tired of with the Hero is the speed. Generally it's fine and I'm used to it, but I definitely can'y wait for more SPEED! So surveying the scene I've decided to get the amazing looking Samsung Galaxy S when it's released. I was thinking of getting the next iPhone but I just can't go back to such a closed system without ROOT!
So... I've LOVED tinkering with my Hero, installing custom ROMS and stuff like that - I'm wondering how likely it is that the Samsung Galaxy S will even be "rootable" or have custom ROMs developed for it? I've seen the HTC Evo but not sure if that's going to be released in the UK and the Galaxy S has a better screen and just looks like it's a better phone in general. Is it mainly HTC phones that get "root"/dev love on these forums or is it likely I'll have much luck with the Samsung?

I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.

kadison said:
I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.
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The pics dont really do it justice. It does look a lot like an iPhone at first but then as can be seen on the videos of it in action - it's most definitely android! The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen! [dribbles].... The specs are "out of this world"! [haha!]

alsheron said:
The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen!
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Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html

kadison said:
Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
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Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...

alsheron said:
Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...
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Galaxy is better in almost every way, it has a dedicated GPU that's about 4 times as fast as the snapdragon. But it doesn't have such a widespread userbase. And samsung doesn't offer updates afaik so I'd rather get the desire.
Oh yeah it looks like c...

I'm all in for the Samsung Galaxy S too, when it arrives. It's sexy as hell and I know I'll love that dedicated GPU, that's even way better than the iPhone 3Gs'. My hero has served me well, and still does. My hero is also super fast, now that I've overclocked it to 700 mhz.
Edit: Just remembered also, that the desire and nexus screen cannot even remotely be compared to the screen of the samsung galaxy s. The screen is nice on desire and nexus, but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.

my friend just got the HTC Legend on contract with vodafone before that he was on orange with a nokia n95 and he lives out in the sticks and now
gets much better signal and the phone feels a lot faster and is built much better than the hero and runs 2.1 you should look in to it
Sent from my aHero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

madsborelli said:
but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.
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That would be the Pentile type display in the Nexus One and Desire. Unlike most LCD displays, a pentile type display does not have all three RGB subpixels, and uses subpixel rendering to make it 'look' like it has a higher resolution. It's actually Samsung's display btw.
I'm not sure if this is the same for the Super AMOLED, since the S-AMOLED is supposed to have integrated the touchscreen with the display (increasing clarity) and has nothing to do with how the pixels are rendered..
Anyway, I would also advise against getting a Samsung. If you think HTC's firmware/software support is bad.... Samsung pretty much abandons its products after it has been released.

Thanks
Thanks for the feedback guys - some great info here. Bit worrying the comment about Samsung abandoning their products!? Won't that be less so because the Galaxy s is running android? I have to say that the Galaxy S is looking SO good so far that I might get it and just deal with the lack of updates - probably regret it but what choice is there?
I know, I know that there will always be "better" and "faster" when it comes to tech like this but don't you think that 1GHz is about *finally* the sweetspot for running stuff nice and fluid on a smartphone? I mean my comp here at home is a Core 2 Duo and I can't tell *any* difference between this and the similarly specced Core i3 at work for everyday tasks. In the same way, even if a 1.5Ghz phone comes out after the Galaxy S (which isn't due to arrive later in the year anyway) - even though we'd all want a faster phone, staying with 1ghz aint going to be too shabby, is it? The Hero I think is *just* slightly on the wrong side of slow when it comes to speed. Maybe the Legend fixes that - I haven't tried one - and wouldn't want to now some incredible phones are on the way.
Anyway - if I don't get the Galaxy S, what do you guys think is the best alternative given my contract expires at the end of this Spetember? Any announcements been made about the Evo4g or some other super quick phone?
Also - no one's really mentioned but if i DO get the Galaxy S, how likely is it that I'll be able to root it and install custom Roms or updated custom roms in the fullness of time? Does the community in general only tweak with HTC phones?
Thanks again!

Samsung does update some of their Android phones. It's just that they are slow and they have not update them all.
History of updates of Samsung Android phones (may not be exhaustive):
Moment (M900) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Galaxy Spica/Portal (i5700) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Behold 2 (T-939): 1.5 -> update to 2.1 approved and should be coming soon
Samsung Galaxy (i7500) : NO update to 2.x (phone released 6-7/2009)
It remains to be seen how many of the above will get an update to 2.2, if any.

Galaxy S II or HTC Sensation replace HD2?

Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.

geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...

The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only

orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.

T-Macgnolia said:
Man dang good post, I agree totally with you on the Sensation A.K.A the Pyramid (I still that that was a cooler name). Personally I prefer the option of expandable memory with Micro SD over a fixed internal memory. I mean you do have advantages with a phone with fixed internal memory, but lets face it most devices now days with a quote "imternal memory" are really using a hidden SD card as the memory now and not a NAND chip. The SD card option is much cheaper for manufactures than NAND chips. But I still like being abale to remove my SD card and and use a card reader to transfer big files or print photos from it at a photo printer in store. It is a lot of advantages in havong removable storage to me.
Just my thoughts.
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I actually agree with you after looking at it some more, I mean what if you want to move your media to another phone or something? How about if you want to boot a ROM from SD (something some android devices can do). I really hate the raid zero WP7 phones do with the SD, and although Android treats it differently, IMO NAND + microSD is the way to go.
I also agree the "Pyramid" is a cooler name. This will be my next device and worthy of upgrading my HD2 to. Samsung cannot code for **** and they would be better off making phones and having Google write their code or putting their hardware in iPhones (like they've been doing)

not swayed yet...
orangekid said:
As far as straight hardware the SGS2 wins. SAMOLED display, 1ghz ram instead of the 768MB in the sensation. 16gb internal storage instead of the 1gb usable in the sensation (with microsd expandable).
Let's talk software. Go look at the Galaxy S dev section of this forum, then take a look at the HD2, or the Desire, or other HTC devices.
Devs always seem to flock to HTC devices over Samsung.
Compare Sense 3.0 to Touchwiz... Not even close. Sense 3.0 is better in so many ways, aesthetically speaking, functionally speaking, integration with contacts, facebook, better widgets, better everything IMO.
of course, there will be an awesome CM7 for the SGS2 so if you don't care about sense, you may go with this, just remember the lag issues the Vibrant has, and some of the freeze issues and other things I hate about it. The Nexus S seems fine but there again, Google wrote straight code for that without Samsung ****ing it up.
I'm going Sensation personally, but the SGS2 is a phone to be reckoned with...
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Good points. I have been seeing a lot of reviews lately of the Sensation. I have been waiting for a phone of its ilk for a while. However, from being an HD2 user, I really wanted to see power and battery life improved in the next phone i get. I am now an HTC lover, but I am really having a hard time understanding why they are lowering the bar on some of their new releases - especially the sensation.
It was a little odd that the sensation has less ram AND a poorer battery than the upcoming EVO 3d (which I am already getting grief from my Sprint friends), but after reading this review http://pulsene.ws/1HKxA I find out that it is not even up to speed with the competition. The first two paragraphs were eye openers.
I really don't want to jump the gun, like I did with the hd2 over waiting for the hd7. AND now I read that the Sensation Bootloader is locked as well?!?!? I am not saying that I will not get it, but I really don't understand why HTC is intentionally coming out the gate with a product that is behind.

Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.

Kailkti said:
Mmm ask Sony Ericsson that too. I think it's because general consumers could care less about the performance specs of a phone. E.g. Does it look good? How much Megapixels does it have? Front facing camera? HD video? How much storage? Touch screen? Lots of apps? Games? wifi? Does it work with 3g? How much is it? etc. Frig I don't care if the bootloader is locked, I don't even know what that is. That's something a general consumer would say.
Anyways I find the sgs 2 more appealing. Well mostly cuz of the overall space it can hold and the camera. 64 gb of space will rid me of my paranoia of the limits of memory, plus if the rumor of it holding a 64 gb sd card was true, well, "I love you". With all that space I can say goodbye to carrying around two sd cards and my zune lawl. And the fact that the sensation's bootloader is locked and i have no idea how long the "real" development of the device is gonna take.
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I would rather have an Htc Sensations. I tried the ported one in my DZ, it looks awesome
Since you mentioned Soner, I should say Soner Xperia Arc is a good device.
But, it is not the best device. However, the Bravia Engine makes different display quality. It is so real, that's why they call it "Reality Display"
Cheers...

I have the same dilemma.
I went to see the Sensation and it was nothing special compared to my HD2, I like more the software in mine (CM7), the screen is too long and it is difficult to reach the notifications.
SGS2, The only Con I see is that is missing the notification light, and I'm addicted to it, I had the chance to buy it in Amsterdam but I didn't bc of this (not to mention the $850).
I'm waiting for something with 4.0 inches like the Incredible S..but I don't feel safe buying it bc it doesn't have warranty in the US.
My perfect phone would be the Nexus S with a good notification light..not BLN.

geekyhawkes said:
Hey guys,
I am due an upgrade from vodafone UK and am thinking of either a sensation or a galaxy S II and was wondering if anyone here can help me out decide?
As i see it the specs are pretty similar, almost too close to call. AMOLED in the Samsung should give really nice blacks and decent battery i guess, but the biggest thing to separate the 2 is the UI, sense or touchwiz.
I love my HD2 and will keep it to hack around with and flash etc.
Thanks for any thoughts to split the 2 big android phones of the year.
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I faced the same question, I got the Sensation and am Super excited with it. Our root comes in by the end of the week, and we already have a couple of custom roms going. Definitely go for the sensation!

Well there are apps for you to use the LED buttons as a notification LED so not really a drawback.
Anyways it depends on what you want. If you want a super smooth experience, the sgs 2 is a good go, obviously from it having the best speced phone.
The sensation is smooth also, but not as much as the sgs 2 since sense is eating away. But as said as above, you get a complete experience with sense, meaning sense has functionality that other phones simply don't have.
One big drawback I find with the sensation however is that we are only left with i think 200mb ram. Now that is just sad for a device as itself. With the sgs 2, you are left with 500+, so you can expect yourself not to be lagging from no memory.
Now really, I can keep talking and talking, but as you see, my talking is biased towards the sgs 2, as i do think it is the superior, but that shouldn't persuade you. Really you should be out there trying out both devices, and then be choosing which, not letting me persuade you to buy "this phone". Man cannot be a follower forever.

First part of my Sensation Vs SGSII review now up http://t.co/oMbZwvn
Also upcoming video showing the SGSII Vs Sensation in playing my test video clips (range of codecs etc - 1080p/720p/MKV/high profile/DTS, AC3, Vorbis, dual audio sound/internal MKV subs, external subs etc).

johnerz said:
The one and only issue with SGS2 is the Samsung software, they can and do regularly screw up software on otherwise great phones, the SGS1 was a prime example of that imho.
If they kept closer to the google stock versions it would be my choice, but currently there is no real replacement for the HD2, I may keep mine and go sim only
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Samsung's software on the SGSII seems to be lag free. I am yet to see any complain of any lag whatsoever.

None. Well at least if you get the Sensation you'll be bored, after having an HD2. Not a worthy upgrade I think. SGSII is well... Idk, it doesn't convince me. W8 for the next HTC maybe.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

orangekid said:
1ghz ram instead of the 768MB
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1 "ghz" of ram?? lol
hmm, I think you are confusing RAM and CPU

Count me in for the same debate 'should I go Sensation or Sgs2'.
I had the advantage to play with both devices at once for a couple of hours.
Personally I would say Samsung.
Yes, the software is not as good as the Sensation (note the 'not as' meaning it is not bad) but the hardware is top notch.
The screen of the SGS2 is very very good, even outside in the sun you see something which to me is important.
I also did some video tests and the Samsung wins. Less autofocus and luminance hunting, overal a much more stabile video than the oversharped and overcompressed Sensation video.
The speakers on the Samsung, well you can hear them unlike the tweeter sound on the Sensation.
The fact that they have donated a SGS2 to the CM team makes me think they want us to develop the ultimate machine which I really like since Android is and should be open source. Their native roms work ok for the crowd so why not have a team develope the ultimate for the xda kind of people. Very clever and wise Samsung.
Ok the body of the SGS2 is made out of plastic but what is not and there is a lot of quality difference in plastic. At least it absorbs when it falls.
Mmm by writing this I think I have made my mind up

Wait for galaxy with faster cpu ;-)
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

any phone of what so ever but no comparison to our beloved hd2..... body is awsm... and when u are buying a phone like sgs2 or sensation... u wont be thinking that the body will absorb the shock on falling cause when ull have it in ur hand ull be praying for its wellbeing and not falling ... and yes wait for evo3d

I have both the HD2 and the SGS2 (Stolen last saturday, but insurance will get me another one.)
I dont regret for a second that I preordered the SGS2, it outpreforms my HD2 by far. The screen is extremely good and the phone is stunningly lightweight, everyone who has held it has made comments on the weight. Batterytime is also alot better.
Regarding Touchwiz; I don't use it..Same goes for Sense on my previous HTC's
To me it seem like HTC tend to use cheap components in a lot of their phones, for example the speakers in all my HTC's have sucked compared to SGS2.
People say SGS can seem "plasticy" but I dont agree, everything is solid and non "squeeky" with the exeption of the button beneath the screen(my subjective opinion)
I would not hesitate for a second going for the SGS2, but thats me..
I am sure, CM7, Sense and MIUI will come to the SGS2 as more developers focus on this killer phone..
Sgs2 becoming the new HD2, would for sure be a dream come true

awsm...... if sgs2 gets customisation like hd2 .... damn .... a real dream will come true...

Galaxy note or HTC One X

Hi Everyone
I just need some advice, is the Galaxy Note a good phone? I have the HTC One x and there is this screen issue problem a few people are experiencing which I am also starting to experience.
Just wanted to know how good the Note is.
Thanks
Sent from my HTC One X

Note too has screen issues.
Gamma test problems, blocky blacks, color banding.
And we all are hoping ICS would fix it.
Having said that I would still prefer Note.

Boy124 said:
Note too has screen issues.
Gamma test problems, blocky blacks, color banding.
And we all are hoping ICS would fix it.
Having said that I would still prefer Note.
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color banding fixed at ics, blocky blacks no

eve7 said:
Hi Everyone
I just need some advice, is the Galaxy Note a good phone? I have the HTC One x and there is this screen issue problem a few people are experiencing which I am also starting to experience.
Just wanted to know how good the Note is.
Thanks
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I will answer as a Note user its simply great! Love using it and have no issues at all leave the ICS. Rom beside it gas a powerfull CPU even more than it takes for us to use everyday , love the music in it and the browsing iwould say replace any tablet or laptop, no flash issues no problem with big pages you can kill any thing and wait to it in ICS currently its AOPK/AOSP ported but the official will rock, as far as using will obe handed is an issue but sooner you will get to it without a problem my opinion is that its the best out there now worthy as no other.
The one x , haven't seen any in my country yet but saw the specs it us apowerful phone but from my point of view it doesn't have the same magic like the note looks lije a copy of it almost....
For me check the signiture ;p
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

I don't have any screen issues with my Note. It looks wonderful. Of course, you will probably get biased information here since it is the NOTE forum.
I've heard the One X is good, but it's also HTC which I'm skeptical about.

Hey mate, just thought I'd throw my opinion up before you get the whole "this is the Note forums, of course we're gonna say it rocks" speech
Personally, I was offered a trade by a friend who recently received the One X as an upgrade, so I used the phone for a couple of hours to see what I thought, and I must say it is FANTASTIC but for me personally, I think that the Note is EPIC
The sheer size of the Galaxy Note is what I love the most, and whilst the One X has a large 4.7" screen, the Note with it's 5.3" screen is just incredible, and whilst the Super LCD 2 screen on the One X is lovely, it doesn't compare to the HD Super AMOLED PLUS screen of the Note, in my personal opinion.
I would say that the One X is a faster phone, because the quad core 1.5GHZ vs. dual core 1.4GHZ of the Note speaks for itself, but I personally don't see any need for a quad core Android device in 2012.
Android 4.0.3, with Sense 4 on the stock ROM of the One X absolutely DESTROYS Android 2.3.6, with TouchWiz on the stock ROM of the Note... but (and this is a large but ) the Note has a fantastic development community and we have some simply superb AOSP/AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs already available and we haven't had any official releases of Android 4.0 yet which means they're just going to continue to get better! Also in my opinion, the pure Android experience beats any overlay put out by HTC/Samsung/Motorola etc. and most HTC devs cook ROMs based on Sense.
Another thing I want to point out quickly, is that whilst Samsung have a TON of different phones/tablets out, they always show their flagship devices plenty of love, and allow them to remain at the "top" whilst HTC will have another flagship device out in a couple of months. That's what I hated most about my Desire HD, I knew that a month or two after I received it, it was no longer "the best thing" anymore.
/rant.
Sent from my White Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 2

The problem I have is I have had the Galaxy S2. And don't like TW. Is there anything I can do about this without rooting my phone?
Sent from my HTC One X

MamaSaidWhat? said:
Hey mate, just thought I'd throw my opinion up before you get the whole "this is the Note forums, of course we're gonna say it rocks" speech
Personally, I was offered a trade by a friend who recently received the One X as an upgrade, so I used the phone for a couple of hours to see what I thought, and I must say it is FANTASTIC but for me personally, I think that the Note is EPIC
The sheer size of the Galaxy Note is what I love the most, and whilst the One X has a large 4.7" screen, the Note with it's 5.3" screen is just incredible, and whilst the Super LCD 2 screen on the One X is lovely, it doesn't compare to the HD Super AMOLED PLUS screen of the Note, in my personal opinion.
I would say that the One X is a faster phone, because the quad core 1.5GHZ vs. dual core 1.4GHZ of the Note speaks for itself, but I personally don't see any need for a quad core Android device in 2012.
Android 4.0.3, with Sense 4 on the stock ROM of the One X absolutely DESTROYS Android 2.3.6, with TouchWiz on the stock ROM of the Note... but (and this is a large but ) the Note has a fantastic development community and we have some simply superb AOSP/AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs already available and we haven't had any official releases of Android 4.0 yet which means they're just going to continue to get better! Also in my opinion, the pure Android experience beats any overlay put out by HTC/Samsung/Motorola etc. and most HTC devs cook ROMs based on Sense.
Another thing I want to point out quickly, is that whilst Samsung have a TON of different phones/tablets out, they always show their flagship devices plenty of love, and allow them to remain at the "top" whilst HTC will have another flagship device out in a couple of months. That's what I hated most about my Desire HD, I knew that a month or two after I received it, it was no longer "the best thing" anymore.
/rant.
Sent from my White Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 2
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According to u which screen has better contrast?Does the hox display looks like washed out like all the screen look when compared to superamoled?and which screen colour saturation u did like the most?

eve7 said:
The problem I have is I have had the Galaxy S2. And don't like TW. Is there anything I can do about this without rooting my phone?
Sent from my HTC One X
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Absolutely. TouchWiz is just the launcher. You can find launchers on the Play Store. (Apex, Nova, Launcher 7, Launcher Pro, ADW)

i dont have HTC One X
so ireally can not tell !
what i can say about the note is :
Pros :
clear large screen , samsung touch wiz UI , S-pin can be very useful to some poeple ,
very great battery life , reasonable price .
Cons :
large Size makes it harder to handle then other phones ( but the htc one x is 4.7 inch so not much of a different ! )
it's not quad core as one X but .. its very decent in performance and speed

What is the camera like, sorry about all the questions.
Sent from my HTC One X

Hi,
Has anyone received ICS official from Samsung yet with this device in the UK?
If not have you guys got a date?
Sent from my HTC One X

I got both, and as i love my Note and it always the Note that follow me and stays loyal...
I like the Hox alot, more a toy for me but for others it for sure should work like a really nice phone.
But like other folks have say if you like the big screen go for the Note as it is fantastic, and when you have use it for a while you will have hard go to back to normal size..
The Hox has also a fantastic screen tho, but still not as big..
For me the Note win because : screen size, pen and Battery.
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I've owned both so this is my honest opinion.
One X is a superb phone but it has a few glaring issues I couldn't past. I had two handsets. The first had a loose screen. The second had a yellow tint at the bottom and light greys would occasionally flicker. Build quality definitely needs improvement so don't be shocked if you need to switch handsets a few times.
The camera on the One X is an absolute joy to use.
Before the problems I fell in love with it. The screen is a beauty and it fits well in the hand.
If it wasn't for the fact I had to send two back, it would have been a keeper.
The Note on the other hand, arrived perfect and is perfect. Build quality is superb and the screen is equally stunning but for different reasons. High contrast and its simply amazing for watching video. The size of the device is great too, I was expecting it to be too big but its just ridiculously functional. The screen space to fit icons is untouchable and the S Pen is handy for jotting down notes without fuss.
Battery life on the Note is also far better than the One X, good 4 to 5 hrs on screen time. One X will give you around 3 to 3 and a half tops.
My only complaint of the Note is not having Ice cream sandwich yet, but its not far off.
What you need to work out is how you use your phone. If you travel a fair bit and want something to use on a bus or train then the Note is what you want. Choice of switching out battery as well as the battery being better to begin with seals the deal. If you just listen to music though, the One X is superb. It's only when the screen is on does it suck the life away.
If you also intend to play graphically intensive games, then obviously the One X is the one to get. Just have to make sure your near a charger because it kills the battery in no time.
Overall I prefer the Note because of how I use it. I do a fair bit of reading and the screen is better suited for that purpose.

I have banding. It's not software related but a problem with the screen. But I can only really tell when I have the brightness set at the lowest level.
My home button lost the spring in its step, but others say theirs is just like brand new.
Alot of lag, but hopefully ICS will fix this.

Stupid question..
I've had my Note since November and still love it to bits.
I reckon it craps on the HTC One. (yes I've played with a One)

There’s No Such Thing As A Stupid Question …… Only Stupid Answers!

I had to get both to solve this one [sigh], 'cos they're the best two phones available without doubt! They're really quite different personalities & some days one suits more so it really comes down to what you want. I think the HTC is a new gen superphone with great specs while the Note is more like a BIG SGS2 but the size is great screen wise! 4.7 now seems a bit small & 5.3 a tiny bit big. If someone does a 5" screen like the HTC, WOW!

MamaSaidWhat? said:
The sheer size of the Galaxy Note is what I love the most, and whilst the One X has a large 4.7" screen, the Note with it's 5.3" screen is just incredible, and whilst the Super LCD 2 screen on the One X is lovely, it doesn't compare to the HD Super AMOLED PLUS screen of the Note, in my personal opinion.
I would say that the One X is a faster phone, because the quad core 1.5GHZ vs. dual core 1.4GHZ of the Note speaks for itself, but I personally don't see any need for a quad core Android device in 2012.
Android 4.0.3, with Sense 4 on the stock ROM of the One X absolutely DESTROYS Android 2.3.6, with TouchWiz on the stock ROM of the Note... but (and this is a large but ) the Note has a fantastic development community and we have some simply superb AOSP/AOKP Ice Cream Sandwich ROMs already available and we haven't had any official releases of Android 4.0 yet which means they're just going to continue to get better! Also in my opinion, the pure Android experience beats any overlay put out by HTC/Samsung/Motorola etc. and most HTC devs cook ROMs based on Sense.
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actually, note has super amoled hd, not super amoled plus. plus implies rgb matrix, but we have pentile matrix. the main reason why the screen of the note was particularly awesome at the time was because there was nothing else as large with the same resolution (amoled or lcd). but now the htc screen can be a comparison. not only is the htc screen an ips panel (accurate colour representation), it is also full rgb matrix, not pentile. so side by side, our notes are over saturated and not as sharp as the htc screen. amoled does have the advantage in terms of being able to display true blacks, but thats still offset by colour banding issues.
one advantage we have is larger battery capacity, but if you see some of my other posts on the issue, our battery is still worse compared to the one x in web browsing until we get ICS and can invert colours. in other tasks such as phone call and standby, our notes win... but thats only because the screen is off.
another advantage we have is that we have a microSD slot which lets us expand our storage by up to 64gb. but this will depend on the user.
however, the thing i would suggest to the OP right now is dont buy a note if he already owns a one x. its a downgrade in most areas, and a sidegrade at best. plus, today is 1st of may. in 2 more days, samsung announce their next galaxy. if you run antutu on your phone, you can see that the s3 is on the score chart and that its running a 720p display, exynos quad core with overclocked mali gpu and 1gb ram. it scores 12150 in antutu. buying a note now when the official announcement for samsung's new beast arrives in 2 days is just silly. even if the s3 isnt as great as its being hyped to be, at the very least a few stores will drop their prices on the note.

Souai
Aww thank you so much for your advice really helped I think I will stick with the One X. Its only because the flicker screen issue has been a really big put off and I do not want to go through the whole being on my 3rd one and still have flicker issues. Thanks alot.
Sent from my HTC One X

Get the One X ? Or give 100 €/$ more for the SGS III..?

I made a similar topic in the HTC One X section but to try and have a more or less objective view on my question I will post my question here too.
I am considering upgrading from my DHD to the One X or SGS III.
I saw that in most reviews the SGS III is the superior over the One X, now my question is if that is worth the € 100 (actually the difference is a bit bigger even) extra to get the SGS III ?
I like design of both phones, with a slight preferation for the One X. I noticed android development community of the One X has expanded greatly already whereas the SGS III seems to still be taking off.. (much more flashing fun for the One X that means). Sense doesn't interest me that much, I would go for an AOXP rom anyways probably, or if I wouldn't root the phone right away yet use another launcher. I have no experience with TouchWizz from Samsung.
Hopefully some people can help me with my decision.
Cheers
W.

wtr_dhd said:
I made a similar topic in the HTC One X section but to try and have a more or less objective view on my question I will post my question here too.
I am considering upgrading from my DHD to the One X or SGS III.
I saw that in most reviews the SGS III is the superior over the One X, now my question is if that is worth the € 100 (actually the difference is a bit bigger even) extra to get the SGS III ?
I like design of both phones, with a slight preferation for the One X. I noticed android development community of the One X has expanded greatly already whereas the SGS III seems to still be taking off.. (much more flashing fun for the One X that means). Sense doesn't interest me that much, I would go for an AOXP rom anyways probably, or if I wouldn't root the phone right away yet use another launcher. I have no experience with TouchWizz from Samsung.
Hopefully some people can help me with my decision.
Cheers
W.
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I had One X had to send for repairs. Sad thing about getting unlocked from HTC your warranty is void. They won't even care if its hardware. On the other side Samsung has chain fire .. lol . No locked boot loader, unlocked handsets. Repenting why I bought a one x. If you want a box let me know I will sell you mine.
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The issue about the locked bootloader is an interesting point to consider, thanks..

Buy the SGS3 its worth it. I will give you some reasons for it.
-better performance
-removable battery
-unlocked bootloader
-supports micro sd cards
-wolfson dac (brilliant sound)
-htc one x is laggy (tested three different devices of the international version)
Design is always subjective but in my opinion all HTC devices are have the same design since the desire s.
Some guys had to send the HOX back three times because of mistakes in the production.
My advise is to go for the SGS3.
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wtr_dhd said:
I noticed android development community of the One X has expanded greatly already whereas the SGS III seems to still be taking off.. (much more flashing fun for the One X that means).
Cheers
W.
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To answer you for above part. If you're in for short term flashing fun then get OneX if you're in for long haul get SIII. You mention one x community has expanded you need to know that SIII was officially launched couple of days ago and yet it was already rooted 2 weeks back. There are devs w/o SIII and have successfully rooted/cwm/developled ROMS for SIII. So what do you think will happen once they get their hands on actual device.
Yet when i had visited early last month on 1x forums it was all about complaining about build quality, warranty issues whether it's void or not void using HTC's own tools and people even offering money for s-off thingamabob whatever that is.
And here on SIII it takes less than 2 mins to root the device including booting time. One of the fastest boot time i've seen on any phone. About 20secs. And dont forget the legacy of SIII which is S2 one of the best Droid phones around and tons of backing of a huge dev community.
So your choice

Yes, stupid remark of me that the developping community is bigger atm for the One X seeing this device has been launched some months ago and the SGS III only a few days.
I am tending more and more to the S III.

Try them both before you decide. First hand experience is always better than user views. Your views and needs will differ from the rest of us.
Both are superior phones at the moment.
More things to consider:
Sense vs TouchWiz - Sense on the HOX is excellent, a little laggy but it's feature's are useful same as TW, TW is better optimised and has it's own feature set as well.
Design and build - HOX has had some build issues but get a good one and it's lovely. Feels nice in the hand and design is lovely. I've got a feeling the SGS3 will feel better in the hand due to it's better shape and curved nature.
Battery/storage - HOX built in, SGS3 expandable and replaceable. SGS3 wins this contest, however 32gb is plenty for most.
Camera - debatable.
Screens - debatable and personal preference. I personally love the HOXs screen. Natural colours and whiter whites but poorer blacks compared to the AMOLED. Try both and see which suits your eyes better.
Audio - SGS3 with wolfson clear winner if listening to music, however HOX is not that bad better than other phones without wolfson dacs.
I can go on, but won't as I've not played with the SGS3 as of yet.
Both are great. Choose 1 and be happy.

You really gotta do a hands on to be fair, GS3 might be scorned when being shown in pictures but when it's on your hand, it's a whole different story.

One X has superior design and build, feel and look. Call quality is better, crisper. Camera and video playback better.
After sales repairs etc in my experience very good. Very convienant handset is Picked up, repaired and delivered if under warranty even rooted devices. Samsung not great in my experience.
SG3 has better UI and more vibrant colours. Better led light notification. Slight lag and home screen does reload quite often (probably software update will fix this) not experienced this with One X.
To be honest which ever handset you go for you will be happy as they are 2 of the best handsets out there at this time.

agreed. and think of it this way. if you are going to use an external sd card for more music then the s3 is the one for you. if you are after a better build quality phone which will feel premium in your hand then it is the One X. also removable battery as well you have to think about that...
all in all both phones are great.
nikzDHD said:
Try them both before you decide. First hand experience is always better than user views. Your views and needs will differ from the rest of us.
Both are superior phones at the moment.
More things to consider:
Sense vs TouchWiz - Sense on the HOX is excellent, a little laggy but it's feature's are useful same as TW, TW is better optimised and has it's own feature set as well.
Design and build - HOX has had some build issues but get a good one and it's lovely. Feels nice in the hand and design is lovely. I've got a feeling the SGS3 will feel better in the hand due to it's better shape and curved nature.
Battery/storage - HOX built in, SGS3 expandable and replaceable. SGS3 wins this contest, however 32gb is plenty for most.
Camera - debatable.
Screens - debatable and personal preference. I personally love the HOXs screen. Natural colours and whiter whites but poorer blacks compared to the AMOLED. Try both and see which suits your eyes better.
Audio - SGS3 with wolfson clear winner if listening to music, however HOX is not that bad better than other phones without wolfson dacs.
I can go on, but won't as I've not played with the SGS3 as of yet.
Both are great. Choose 1 and be happy.
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THe clear differences (the others being more subjective) are:
1. HOX has non-removal battery and non-expandable memory while GS3 has both.
2. The looks.. Many seem to prefer the HOX design than the GS3 (having handled both, the pictures don't do the GS3 justice.. HOX looks as good as it does in the pictures..)
3. Sense vs Touchwiz.. Sense is more flashy while Touchwiz won't dazzle anyone. At the same time, Touchwiz offers more functionality eg Smart Stay, Motion gestures, more notification bar shortcuts/toggles...
I think overall it's a choice between design/looks and functionality.
If you need more than 16GB or removable battery, buy the GS3.
If you want something that looks good and feels good then buy the HOX.

There is a whole thread right here dedicated to SGS3 vs HOX chat.
Closed.

IMO: HTC One vs Galaxy S4 (if you are torn between the two)

Author's comments: I have always loved HTC phones, my first high-end phone was the original HTC EVO and I am the maker of the Azrael ROM for that phone (which eventually became Azrael X). I also was a proud owner of a HTC EVO 3D. But I have had my share of Samsung devices as well. I have had the Samsung Captivate, the Samsung Galaxy S3, and most recently the Samsung Galaxy S4. I also tried the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom but found for me it was impossible to store and I did not like the false advertising as it is NO S4. It is gimped compared to the S4.
So to sum it off, I like Samsung and HTC, I am no fanboy, I simply choose the device I think fits me best. I am also aware there are other threads like this, but this is just another opinion or another review, so to speak. I hope this proves helpful if you are on the fence about either device.
CONSTRUCTION:
Samsung Galaxy S4: I have easily broken every Samsung phone's screen I have ever had (except the Captivate, which seems to be to invincible!). Let me get that out of the way before I go anywhere else. Do not think Gorilla Glass will live up to it's name! I am not abusive to my phones but I have dropped them while at work especially. I am sure everyone drops their phone from time to time, or it falls out of your hoodie (which has doomed 2 of my phones).
The Captivate was a little tank, that phone is smaller but it feels substantial in your hands and I feel it is the most well made Samsung phone. The S3 and S4 feel very plastic in your hands because frankly, they are! The screen on both my S3 and S4 broke with small drops on the edge toward where the power button is, which makes me think it is a weak spot. The rest of the phone holds up well, despite feeling like it will not but unless you have a very protective case which protects the screen, it does not take much to break the glass.
But as far as the overall setup goes (button locations, etc) I like the 3 button navigation, gestures are pretty cool but I did not use them much. The removable battery and Micro-SD card ports are great to have.
HTC One: Much better build quality, a slightly smaller screen, and aluminum both look and feel nice. I have only had mine for a short time but I was able to tell right away that I liked HTC's construction a LOT better than Samsung's. The phone looks cooler, is a little heavier in the hands (which I like, actually), and the design is very nice. I have not dropped this phone yet in 3 weeks I have owned it, but I am certain if I did it would hold up better.
Where I like the S4 better is the fact you can open the back up and there is a Micro SD-card expansion the HTC lacks. If you carry tons of stuff on your phone, the S4 might be a better bet. I also like the 3 navigation keys on the S4 compared to the HTC One's 2. It took me a bit of getting used to navigating the phone without a back button.
My opinion: Samsung Galaxy S4 has more expandability and I like the fact you can access the battery. But for build quality, there is no comparison. The HTC One is better built and would hold up better.
DISPLAY:
Samsung Galaxy S4: I love the display but I have a few reservations. It is 5.0 Inches with 441 PPI, colorful, and overall very nice with a sharp full-HD resolution. I found the S4 has slightly exaggerated colors, which sometimes look "off" to me. I found even the Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom, with it's smaller and lower resolution screen, looked way better thanks to improved color accuracy and the brighter display. The S4 Screen was a bit of a letdown for me, to be honest. Still nice for what it is but I feel they could have made it better.
HTC One: Hands down, a much better display, despite it's slightly smaller size. It is full HD, 4.7 Inches, and an extremely high 468 PPI. The HTC One has one of the best cell phone displays I have ever seen, it is more or less perfect. The PPI is higher than the Samsung's and the colors pop without being over-saturated. It has better contrast than the S4 too, which only has an advantage of a slightly bigger screen.
My opinion: No contest, the HTC One display is sharper, better contrast, and higher quality. The S4 is .3 inches bigger, which is not much. Both look good though
SOUND QUALITY:
Samsung Galaxy S4: Another area I think Samsung dropped the ball is the sound quality. The Galaxy S4 sounds awesome with headphones, no doubt. Yet the built in speaker is low quality and distorts easily at higher volumes. In fact, the S3 had a superior speaker compared to the S4. While loud in a quiet room, it's easy to miss calls unless you have it on vibrate as well. Call quality is good but the earpiece speaker is pathetic. Mine distorted easily, barely went loud enough, and had a tinny sound. The S3, again, had a superior speaker for the earpiece. I also found a lot of the ringtones are downright annoying and I had trouble picking one I really liked. Thankfully, custom ROMS have their own versions that are good.
HTC One: Front facing stereo speakers that sound good and go very loud, Beats Audio, a good earpiece speaker, and amazing sound that comes from the headphone jack. For Multimedia experience, the HTC One walks all over the Samsung Galaxy S4. With sound more than display, there is NO question which is the superior device of the two for music or Multimedia. The built in ringtones and sound samples are superior and sound cooler (unless you are into animal sounds or ethnic sounds).
My opinion: I think the S4 is far inferior to the HTC One is sound, the S4 seems to use low quality components (except the headphone jack circuitry and DAC). The HTC One by a landslide.
USER INTERFACE:
Samsung Galaxy S4: Uses Touchwiz, a lot more like vanilla Android. I like Touchwiz a lot and find it both easy to navigate and easy to use on a regular basis.
HTC One: Sense, which I have always loved. While I am not as used to it as Touchwiz, Sense looks good, has good functionality, and I do like the news and social feeds.
My opinion: This is purely personal preference. Both work good and are easy to figure out. I prefer things about both, I think Touchwiz is a little bit easier (but I am more used to it) and Sense has more features. Both are great.
SPECS:
Samsung Galaxy S4: For raw horsepower, on paper the Galaxy S4 is a step up from the HTC One. Super fast, great with games, and lag is rare. But, I also have seen the S4 lag quite a bit even when just using the phone. In actual use, the S4 is the slower of the two usually. Surprising but true.
HTC One: In execution, I have seen no difference in games or using the device day to day. Despite slightly lower specs, the HTC One is just as fast and if the S4 is faster (which it should be according to benchmarks), you do not see it in use. In fact, the HTC One seems to be the faster of the two in actual use. Benchmarks and specs are great but useless in actual use.
My opinion: Both are snappy and are great for games. I would not buy one or the other because of the specs, but in theory the S4 is slightly superior (but you are splitting hairs, really). Both are currently 2 of the fastest devices around. I find the HTC One the faster of the two in actual use, which is surprising.
CAMERA:
Samsung Galaxy S4: with 13 Megapixels, a back-lit sensor, and a bunch of image editing options, the camera is more than adequate for most people. The front facing camera is pretty decent too, I have managed to take some great photos with the S4 as I am sure anyone can. Ghosting around moving objects is the Achilles heel with the S4.
HTC One: With a 4 Megapixel "Ultrapixel" Camera, though it sounds worse on paper, I find they both tradeoff in the camera department. The colors are less vibrant but more natural looking in general on the HTC One. I found the image stabilization to work better on the One, so it is easier to get a better shot.
My opinion: For more vibrant looking photos, or for larger blowups of taken photos, the S4 is the pick. For more natural color, better image stabilization, and a wider angle, the HTC One is the better device. They both have good cameras though, and I am sure they will satisfy anyone who likes to snap photos with their phones. I prefer the HTC One camera overall though.
DEVELOPMENT:
Samsung Galaxy S4: Awesome developers with decently active development going on. But Samsung has been more active in trying to prevent tampering with the phone, so it is harder to root it and get past the protection. The removable SD Card can save your butt if you get into a bootloop as it allows you to have another means to push a different ROM (or firmware, etc) onto the phone if you get into trouble.
HTC One: HTC is a lot more helpful when it comes to unlocking the phone for developers. They even have a website which allows you to get root access (though still S-On) and is simple to use with full instructions. Once you have done that, getting full S-Off, changing firmwares, and even turning your device into more customizable versions (like the Google Play edition or Super CID which is unlocked) is easy to do. The development is as active as the S4 with a lot of very good developers that have been around a long time.
My opinion: The HTC One is your ticket if you want an easier time gaining full root access and not having to worry about HTC coming out with new ways to thwart you from getting full access. In fact, users with newer Galaxy S4 phones have a bootloader that has yet to be fully cracked, which causes a headache and prevents you from easily changing radios or firmwares. It also requires you to use tricks just to put a custom ROM on the phone.
CONCLUSION: Both amazing phones, you cannot go wrong with either. Both are fast, run the newest versions of Android, and have tons of features.
For raw horsepower, removable storage, and a more vanilla-Android like interface the S4 may be the better phone for you.
For MUCH better sound and video quality, a better and more durable build quality, and a chipset that seems just as fast, the HTC One is your meal-ticket. It is also much easier to customize, so if you want to install and run custom ROMS and keep the ability to run custom firmware and radios, the HTC One is yet again the better advice. If you like Sense, you will love the HTC One!
To me, the HTC One is a better device in all ways that are important. A large part of a smartphone is the display and sound for the games and multimedia, and in that respect the HTC One is the better device.
I will likely have to edit this for mistakes but I hope this is helpful and I tried to be as subjective as possible. Both are super nice and show that technology in these phones is quite amazing and will just continue to improve over time. :good:

Good to hear your opinion. Now mods can you close this thread. What a waste of writing.
No comparison thread, you should know this.

Duuuuuuuude! This is very very detailed,
But its probably gonna get closed man. Comparison threads like this have been closed multiple times in the One forums already.
That being said I agree with most of the points you've covered except for a few.
- You mentioned the button layout and said the One is missing the back button... I'm sure you meant the menu button though. Like it or not "menu" buttons are gonna die out. Googles design philosophy opts for the on screen 3 dot menu buttons inside apps.
- I'm not sure how your s4 managed to match the One in speed. In my time comparing the two directly, the S4 has noticeable lag compared to the One. The One is much smoother in real world use. Benchmarks are completely useless imho.
- Also I know its subjective but the consensus around here seems to be different when it comes to Sense vs Touchwiz. You said both are easy to use, and that Sense has more features. Actually, Touchwiz definitely has more "features" to the point of being bloated and gimmicky. Sense is much leaner and easier to use imo. Sense isn't bloated with things nobody will ever use, part of why its a cleaner faster experience I think.
- Not sure what you mean by the s4 being a good choice if you want a more vanilla android experience... Touchwiz is about the furthest away from vanilla android you can get. If your referring to the legacy menu button then as I've said before, that is actually against googles design philosophy, look at nexus devices. No menu button.
Good write up for the most part, and I agree with your conclusion. :thumbup:
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Xstop said:
Good to hear your opinion. Now mods can you close this thread. What a waste of writing.
No comparison thread, you should know this.
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It is not meant as a comparison thread, rather my own experience with the phones and to help choose between the two as choosing a device is difficult. For one, what do you care if I write this, does it interfere with your day to day life? Are you a "thread police officer"? At least my thread could be helpful, yours is more of a waste of writing IMO.

FanDroid09 said:
Duuuuuuuude! This is very very detailed,
But its probably gonna get closed man. Comparison threads like this have been closed multiple times in the One forums already.
That being said I agree with most of the points you've covered except for a few.
- You mentioned the button layout and said the One is missing the back button... I'm sure you meant the menu button though. Like it or not "menu" buttons are gonna die out. Googles design philosophy opts for the on screen 3 dot menu buttons inside apps.
- I'm not sure how your s4 managed to match the One in speed. In my time comparing the two directly, the S4 has noticeable lag compared to the One. The One is much smoother in real world use. Benchmarks are completely useless imho.
- Also I know its subjective but the consensus around here seems to be different when it comes to Sense vs Touchwiz. You said both are easy to use, and that Sense has more features. Actually, Touchwiz definitely has more "features" to the point of being bloated and gimmicky. Sense is much leaner and easier to use imo. Sense isn't bloated with things nobody will ever use, part of why its a cleaner faster experience I think.
- Not sure what you mean by the s4 being a good choice if you want a more vanilla android experience... Touchwiz is about the furthest away from vanilla android you can get. If your referring to the legacy menu button then as I've said before, that is actually against googles design philosophy, look at nexus devices. No menu button.
Good write up for the most part, and I agree with your conclusion. :thumbup:
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Thank you, and I am glad you agree with my conclusion. I think Touchwiz is a lot more like vanilla Android, but opinions are just that. As far as looks go, for behavior sure it is nothing like Google's version of Android. The extra button makes it easy to navigate for me. But as I said, I am just far more used to it (plus my S3 had the same.)
I totally agree, the S4 seems the slower of the two devices in use, especially when just using the interface itself. The S4 seemed to lag a lot out of the blue, maybe because they just have so much junk running in the background? I have been running custom ROMS (much cleaner) with overclocked kernels so my S4 was snappy and lost the lag problems, but with the HTC One I did not even have to do that.

ricsim78 said:
It is not meant as a comparison thread, rather my own experience with the phones and to help choose between the two as choosing a device is difficult. For one, what do you care if I write this, does it interfere with your day to day life? Are you a "thread police officer"? At least my thread could be helpful, yours is more of a waste of writing IMO.
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This is definitely a comparison thread. I mean its pretty much the definition of a comparison thread haha.
He is not a thread police officer but he is right. And this thread is going to be closed once an actual "thread police officer" notices it. Sorry man, these threads are just plain against the rules.
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Just an fyi....
Gorilla glass has nothing to do with how easily a screen breaks, it is a coating which makes it scratch less easily

crixley said:
Just an fyi....
Gorilla glass has nothing to do with how easily a screen breaks, it is a coating which makes it scratch less easily
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I understand that, but some people may be under the illusion it is strong. I did...before I had the S3 and it broke being dropped less than 3 feet onto an office carpet.

FanDroid09 said:
This is definitely a comparison thread. I mean its pretty much the definition of a comparison thread haha.
He is not a thread police officer but he is right. And this thread is going to be closed once an actual "thread police officer" notices it. Sorry man, these threads are just plain against the rules.
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I guess things have changed here, I have not really used the forums much in a long time. I am not trying to break any rules or do a direct comparison thread, I just know it is hard to pick a phone (I had a heck of a time choosing one more than once) but IMO there is no comparison (hence why I own a HTC One now and had a S4 )
Mods, if this is against the rules please close it and sorry. But even if 1 person finds it useful, it is no waste. I also have seen a few other threads like this on here and they were not deleted (hence why I thought it was okay).

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I understand that, but some people may be under the illusion it is strong. I did...before I had the S3 and it broke being dropped less than 3 feet onto an office carpet.
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Glass is glass....
They never ever marketed it saying it would survive falls better.
So I think to say it doesn't live up to its name is fallacious

crixley said:
Glass is glass....
They never ever marketed it saying it would survive falls better.
So I think to say it doesn't live up to its name is fallacious
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While Samsung did not (they DO list it as a feature), Corning, the makers of Gorilla Glass, DO market it is the strongest glass you can buy that comes on a phone. If you do not believe me, Google it. It can give you false impressions about it's strengths, but I have dropped my HTC Evo and my Evo 3D (in fact, the Evo 3D fell out of my pocket and rolled down concrete steps) and they both survived without a scratch. I think it is the design of the S4 (glass covers the whole front of the phone) that contributes to this.

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