Here is the conversation with Tech Support on AT&T.com........HOPING this is correct......
I will update once I get the update......will be checking periodically......
JP: Thank you...
Shannon Carter: I will be glad to help you with your update.
Shannon Carter: To further assist you I will need to access your account. Please send me the account holder's name and the last four digits of their social security number on the account.
JP: J P x#^@
Shannon Carter: Thank you. Please allow me 1-3 minutes to access your account.
JP: Sure....
Shannon Carter: Mr. P, is your phone connected to Wi-Fi at this time?
JP: Yes ma'am.....
Shannon Carter: Can you take it off of the Wi-Fi, please?
Shannon Carter: I will send the push for the update.
JP: It is now off....
Shannon Carter: Thank you.
Shannon Carter: Thank you for waiting. I have sent the update to the phone. The update can take up to 24 hours to come through.
JP: Ok thanks a lot.......and this is the update to release the third party sites such as Amazon correct?
Shannon Carter: Yes, that is correct.
JP: Thank you very much......
Shannon Carter: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can help you with this evening?
JP: No, I think that is it.......thanks again......have a great evening.....
Shannon Carter: You are very welcome. I hope that you have a great evening. Thank you for choosing AT&T as your service provider. We really appreciate your business. Thank you also for visiting the AT&T Live Support Chat. It has been my pleasure to assist you today. Please click the close button to end your session. A customer satisfaction survey will automatically appear and we appreciate your feedback.
If anyone else tries this, and is told the same thing, or something different, please post, so others will know......
Again, I will post the results of the update once I receive it.......
Don't really see why you would have had to kick it off WiFi. And i find it odd that they'd push the update to you when i don't recall ever seeing anything about such an update actually coming out yet.
pretty sure the CSR is misinformed and they're trying to kick yout he 4.1.83 update
That was my thought too......wasn't really getting my hopes up.......but you never know......will let you know......
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Well......finally got a word from AT&T.......the official word is "NO, there is not an update for the Atrix to allow third party app sites."......according to AT&T, all new android phone models that are released after May 15th, will already have the option unblocked......all existing models will be retro-updated in the future, some as late as next spring (not the FEW weeks that AT&T announced on May 17th).......so......AT&T made a VERY misleading announcement, so, without rooting, you are stuck for the foreseeable future from using sites, such as The Amazon App Store......
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Well......finally got a word from AT&T.......the official word is "NO, there is not an update for the Atrix to allow third party app sites."......according to AT&T, all new android phone models that are released after May 15th, will already have the option unblocked......all existing models will be retro-updated in the future, some as late as next spring (not the FEW weeks that AT&T announced on May 17th).......so......AT&T made a VERY misleading announcement, so, without rooting, you are stuck for the foreseeable future from using sites, such as The Amazon App Store......
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Att misleading!?
Remember their favorite word: "capable".
I assure you, the Atrix is CAPABLE of sideloading apps.
Thanks for sharing that Joe. all we can do now is just wait to see if ATT will do anything about it. its a pain but all I can do is sideload but its better than nothing I guess.
Honestly, and yes, I know I'm a ****, but really?...............LMAO...............another pointless thread about an update we know does not exist! Sorry, but they talked BS, you believed it, and guess what........yeah, you still need Gladenable!
We have 2 updates on AT&T................4.1.57 and 4.1.83.
Please share the link to the update you talked the CSR into making you believe you would get!
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That was my thought too......wasn't really getting my hopes up.......but you never know......will let you know......
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Wow......sorry dude.....take a Xanax or something......thought I was clear.....didn't really expect it to be available.....but just covering the bases.....I have been surprised before with unexpected updates on different electronics.....you never know......now......breathe deeply and try to relax......
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Wow......sorry dude.....take a Xanax or something......thought I was clear.....didn't really expect it to be available.....but just covering the bases.....I have been surprised before with unexpected updates on different electronics.....you never know......now......breathe deeply and try to relax......
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Read your subject: Third Party App Site release
Now read what you just said...................
If you don't believe it, don't expect, and basically don't have anything concrete, don't post with a subject that suggests you have some new release.
BTW..........Xanax does nothing for me. I take it, I drink alcohol, I party!
Exactly why doctors don't like to prescribe it!
Wasn't trying to imply at all that I had a release, and sorry if the title may have misled you......but I have fixed the title......should be more clear to everyone......and there is nothing wrong with a little partying....
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Since the 2.1 Leak thread is no longer sticky.....
Can we get a sticky 'status thread' for those of us stuck with the 2.1 leak so we know what is, if anything, going on or whether the devs have abandoned us?
I'd much prefer not to go haggle with the verizon wireless store, but I will if I have to. As it stands, the lack of information on this topic leaves me not sure what to do. A little input is all I ask.
I agree. Some sort of status would be nice.
there wont be any updates on the status. it will be a new thread that will all of a sudden come out and say "we have root / downgrade / whatever for those on 2.1 leak" instead of a posting in an existing thread.
so let me repeat that THERE IS NO ROOT FOR 2.1 LEAK YET.
any updates will be posted in a new thread!
you will find out when it has happened....it will be one the of the top threads.
I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
2.1 leak
I was just on the IRC chat yesterday and they were working on this very thing. Finding a rooted ROM was a little serendipitous and that may leave some of the 2.1 leakers feeling a little left out. Though I do not speak for any of the devs I do know that they plan on addressing this issue espcially because 2.1 official update will be out...eventually. This means that their current method of obtaining root would be obsolete. If you have another method of downgrading your phone then I would suggest using it if you are impatient like me.
So you should learn to do this thing called search.... there was a post about this very subject a day or two ago.
We, the devs, are currently working on some methods for downgrading 2.1 leaked to either 1.5 or the rooted 2.1.
We don't want a new thread about it because we are at this point just poking and prodding around on the phones hoping to find something. Most ideas we have are tried within an hour and don't work, so no need to constantly post about them.
Just please rest assured that on the irc server we are working hard to get 2.1 leak rooted or downgraded. Right now there are still a couple of us devs with the 2.1 leak so it is in our interest to get this thing worked out.
I didn't particularly want a new thread about this to keep track of either. That's why a stickied thread, maybe even locked until someone has an update, was a good idea I thought. One place, top of the list, that all us 2.1 leak users can subscribe too and know when progress is made.
What was so wrong about wanting that instead of watching the board every day, waiting for news, skimming all the titles, or searching each week to see if anything has change?
Gotta agree..
Even if it's just a place to vent, I think us early adopters of the leak deserve a place to huddle up and wonder out loud whether anyone is working on the issue or if we're just stuck..
Nobody has claimed yet to have been force at gunpoint to upgrade. We're here by our own volition..
I will agree with jcase from another thread that we can't whine much unless we're willing to help out, though.. irc.wastate.net was it?
Personally, I don't think its very beneficial for anyone to have a thread where its nothing but "ranting". There are better things to spend time looking at and/or talking about.
Rest assured that when/if a way to downgrade arises, you'll know within hours just like the root, just like the leak.
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
That actually works?
Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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let me know if it worked for you
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Not sure why this hasn't been done yet but I just politely explained to Verizon that my phone was pushed with the 2.1 update and that it breaks Facebook contact sync and kills the battery life and I'd to downgrade, wait for them to call HTC and say that's not possible and ask for an exchange. Done.
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let me know if it worked for you
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Worked for me, cept I called 611 vs going into the store...
i just called Verizon and it worked for me they asked me for firmware version i told them 2.1 they also asked me for kernel version and software number she told its up to date i told them what issues i had getting my new phone tomorrow
All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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LOL, good job!
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I appreciate the response.
Can you at least tell me if someone is in fact working on it or is it just something that a dev 'may' stumble on at some point?
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drop by the IRC chat and you can get real time updates....though they don't want to always be asked about it , if you are there you can see all of them discussing it...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak....
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All us dev's have given up and bought the n1, switching to tmobile. Everyone of us, no more working on the leaked 2.1 phones we have.
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...trust me they are trying as alot of them have 2.1leak
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This seems to be a bit contradictory. :/
EDIT: I'm thinking jcase might have been trying to use sarcasm in a forum, which isn't very detectable.
well when i went into the store yesterday the tech told me that 2.1 was up to date and the 2.1 official was pushed out by htc about a week or two ago? huh? makes you wonder what they are smokin! ill just go to another store and just be mean to em about it and tell em that 2.1 is not out and i demand a new phone...
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0
I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.
QUOTE=VoXHTC;6398994]http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/30479?tstart=0[/QUOTE]
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Yes I'm aware thanks, This post wasn't for you.
wonbattlelost said:
im sorry, a little confused. are you saying the 2.1 update is not happening at all, or just not on may 7th?
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It's still slated for first half 2010 (according to the sprint forums), but the last post on twitter said early first half 2010, which would technically give them about 10 days.
They ARE still planning to push out 2.1 to the Hero and Moment.
Re: 2.1 update NOT happening people!
i find it funny the sprint forums are called baw. baaaaaw.
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I will be laughing my ass off if it did come out on Friday and that admin was wrong.
I'll be very indifferent whether the update comes out or not...
Second post in the topic totally refutes you:
They couldn't do that even if they knew.
The admins and staff on BAW can't announce something before the Sprint PR department officially announces it or OKs the announcement themselves.
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Now that we have the 2.1 roms will it really be that big of a deal when it comes out other then for the people on unrooted stock.
who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem
I want that damn update just so I can have a ROM without the audio loss that keeps happening! I can't get away from it no matter where I go.
Sprint is the undisputed king of dropping the ball on updates, had the Hero not been rooted before my 30 days was up I would have gone to Tmo.
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I suppose you realize that the admins on the Sprint forums know just as much as the front line tech you get when you chat or call them right?
Either way, I don't care when (or if) it comes out. I'm perfectly happy with the customized ROMs we have now.
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I kind of care because I would like to see an Official 2.1 ROM, this leak doesn't let me send emails from exchange just reply.
Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..
No one at the BAW forums has come forward and said "this update is not happening May 7."
This is very telling because in the past, they have directly refuted most of the rumored dates.
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Your title is a little misleading...
like another member said before me, the admins did not say that. all they said was they don't know..
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Im guessing you didnt scroll down and read post 9 when the ADMIN said
"I can officially (no, really) state that it is NOT going on Friday, May 7 2010.
When is it going? Sorry, no one has that information for publication.
I can confirm that we are continuing to test the 2.1 build for both Hero and Moment and we are committed to delivering the update in the first half of 2010."
IM definitely not sayin he is right or saying he is wrong.. Only showing that an admin actually did say this. Some people i guess cant read.
Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprint's last red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.
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Will England (Wengla03) at BAW is usually well informed on these matters and was always forthcoming with info on Sprin's red headed stepchild (Instinct) in the past. I trust his info over any other "leak", though I do hope he is wrong.
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Its really funny over there on sprints forums.. Someone made an off topic "joke" post and everyone joined it and was just talking. One of the admins got her pantys in a bunch and actually deleted peoples post that were off topic. Yet there was no topic but joking. She locked the thread for it starting to get off topic. Even wengla the admin joined in and said something before it was locked. Its like all the admins over there are so desperate to get action and constantly delete and end threads.
And i remember going threw all the instinct updates.. They were at lease muchhh better at setting general times (within the week) of when an update would come out. If it got moved back they would come out and say, its been moved back, expect it on this date.
The hero update, Sprint has been just simply terrribblee at keeping the customers in the loop.
Demoyo23 said:
who cares about the official update i have given up on phones that sprint are responsible to update lol, sprint sucks i am seriously considering going to verizon these days, verizon has always had the best phone selection, more smart phones than any other provider out there, just so freakin expensive is the only problem
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Verizon has always had the best phone selection?!? Did you forget the sarcasm tag?
Pissed off about the 2.2 delays? Yeah me too.
DK28 not stable enough for you? Yeah me too.
Have had it with neither firm taking responsibility or communicating the status of the project? Yeah me too.
Take action:
Comment on: https://www.facebook.com/sprint and tell their social marketing team that you want an answer, an eta, a statement of responsibility. Hit them up at http://twitter.com/sprint too.
Or even: http://investors.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-contact
Do the same for https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Both firms are more likely to see your voice and respond to it then they would trolling the xda forums.
Do the same for https://twitter.com/samsungmobileus
Or even: https://contactus.samsung.com/customer/contactus/formmail/mail/MailQuestionGeneral.jsp?SITE_ID=76&PROD_ID=2088
I like this idea. I'll be bugging them as soon as I get home from work.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
*edit: but hey, I guess it wouldn't hurt to talk to samsung while you're at it xD
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Put messages on both twitters and FB pages.
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Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
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The strategy here is not to directly go to one or the other but to both in hopes that one will pressure the other to make a statement or take direct responsibility.
Although I am glad that this is the case and we now have an official statement from Samsung.
Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
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kenvan19 said:
Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
Sent from my Epic 4g running Nebula Rom
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they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.
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they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.
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Well what are the chances they will respond to that kind of language? Come one now. How can they respect the vocabulary of a middle schooler lacking in eloquence?
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I've posted on all of the links twice now and even added @SamsungService to my tweets. Its odd. I hate twitter and I've refused to tweet after trying it once but if to get these corporations to respond to our community I must break my personal ban then I'll install the damn app on my phone.
Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.
Posted and tweeted. Let them hear our voices united.
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Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.
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Added to my harrass list. Will note however that I doubt this will bring about anything. They could care less how we the minority of users savvy enough to know the difference feel. They've sold near 10 million SGS phones.
Personally I think they should have froyo out a long time ago, HOWEVER if it's unstable, why release it? DK28 is close to stable but not for prime time. I'm running it and need to restart the phone about once or twice a day.
I suspect it was a management decision to not release it because if there are big issues and they release it around xmas time, who is going to be around to fix it or support all the end users complaining? Most of the people take vacations around mid December until January for holidays... Most likely they have short staff.
I think we'll see something in January when they have developers ironing out the last bugs and have a full support team. Maybe for CES??
On another note, I think they "leaked" 2.2.1 out for a reason.. let's beta test on the hard core folks... Lots of people complained about GPS and some other issues, so best to fix it first from their perspective. These leaks happen to go to typically more advanced users that can figure out how to revert back to stock without needing to call support...
Is there a such app that would do the same as an app called sms bomber but it would do emails or tweets lol then you could blow them up literally.....sprint
Viper Rom
Done and Done!
Gladly... thanks for the links!
Was reading around the pages and you guys are doing it wrong...
If your posting on a Sprint page, blame sprint, no matter what others say blame sprint and give evidence that its sprint..(if people blame samsung prove that is sprints fault)
(for those wondering international sgs did get froyo updates..it is official..not a rumor...the ones in canada were taken down but they were reinstated a week later and everything works)
If your on Samsung's page blame samsung and if people blame carriers prove that its samsungs fault...
This may sound contradicting but if your posting about how samsung sucks on a Sprint site..sprint does not need to defend samsung..they can let them take the blame..
same way the other way..
*evil grin* lol
I'm not sure of the timing but this was posted to phandroid after we started:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/30/epic-4g-2-2-delayed-you-dont-say/
It would be nice for a carrier or manufacturer to give an official response instead of pushing the responsibility off to the retailers or customer service reps at the bottom.
Keep it going. Maybe we'll see something next week when the big whigs come back from their holiday vacation.
Oh and if you were looking key people:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/sprint-nextel-corporation/s/nys/key-executives should help you out.
Been doing tweets to @samsungservice, @samsungmobileus, @galaxyssupport and @sprint every couple hours now. Added @samsungtweets as well. Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.
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Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.
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That makes sense. No one is going to be around on their digial marketing team this time of the year. Hopefully when they return next week they'll respond.
Keep the chatter going though. The more attention the problem gets the more likely a response will be given.
While searching through some sprint forums, I came across the admin stating this about those who have EB13:
The official Sprint OTA update is for devices on EB13 and will update your device to EC05. You should receive it by midnight CST.
I know people might think this is crap, but the one thing the admin gave away is the TIME ZONE. Now we know the time zone to base it on to see if it will come true.
Just a thought to get people a little more hopeful.
Here's the source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/273219
Awesome... i dont see why a member of your status would lie
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Awesome... i dont see why a member of your status would lie
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Thanks. I swear to you I'm not lying.
I mean, my statement is just a theory, of course, based on a Sprint Admin (the one who actually posted the info all about the new update on the Sprint forums), so I'm taking his word for it.
Also, it being CST makes sense since the Sprint Headquarters is in the Midwest. (I think)
That being said, I think that confirms that the update is being run by Sprint, not the Google servers, like some had suggested.
Yep makes alot of sense and explains the texts everyones been getting.
Thanks for posting bro.
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Yep makes alot of sense and explains the texts everyones been getting.
Thanks for posting bro.
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No problem. Since I live in the Midwest, it's easier to keep track of the time
For those who don't live in the Midwest, it is currently 9:00.
Only 3 more hours until we all get EC05, or Sprint had lied
Edit: Holy crap, I think I might be getting it right now O_O
It's checking for the software update, and it's taking way longer than usual. I know it's checking correctly because whenever you check for any update, the little "3G" icon in the notification bar disappears. I'll let it keep loading for a while. *FINGERS CROSSED*
Edit2: False Alarm... (no shocker really)
It's update android, not firmware. It's not coming tonight, it's not available.
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It's update android, not firmware. It's not coming tonight, it's not available.
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Alright, well:
1. You have to click "Update Firmware" and then the System Updates section will show it downloading.
2. It IS available; people on DI18 already have it. Sprint claims EB13 will get it too. Maybe not today, but one can only hope right?
Look, the best way to look at a situation like this is to be optimistic, and that is what I am attempting to do. Sure I might be wrong or get my hopes up, but sometimes the feeling of having the optimism is enough.
So please, don't just make statements like that. I know you weren't intending to bash me or anything, but having that negativity does not help.
Thanks
So odin back to di18 and check for the update to see what happens.
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Alright, well:
1. You have to click "Update Firmware" and then the System Updates section will show it downloading.
2. It IS available; people on DI18 already have it. Sprint claims EB13 will get it too. Maybe not today, but one can only hope right?
Look, the best way to look at a situation like this is to be optimistic, and that is what I am attempting to do. Sure I might be wrong or get my hopes up, but sometimes the feeling of having the optimism is enough.
So please, don't just make statements like that. I know you weren't intending to bash me or anything, but having that negativity does not help.
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Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
Look at the 13 update, it came out for 18 alone, and then days later was pulled. NOTHING else dropped. Samsung does not give a $hit about current customers, and it's not going to change tonight, or tomorrow for that matter.
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Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
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What are you basing this on?
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What are you basing this on?
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The facts -10char-
Milkman00 said:
What are you basing this on?
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Agreed. I just checked three forums posted by Sprint admins that confirmed ALL SOFTWARE VERSIONS WILL BE UPGRADED TO EC05 BY END OF TODAY.
Now I agree with you that we may not get it TODAY, but we will get it EVENTUALLY. And @dbpaddler, I would but I have a Mac, and do not feel like wiping my data. Also, I do not want to do the Root method because if I root my phone I want to put ext4/cwm3 on it, not cwm2.5. (I realize I can update, but not worth the hassle in my opinion)
This was just posted today:
UPDATE 3/24/11
: Updates from older versions are now available via OTA. If you are on any of the previous releases (not including the leaked DK28 release), you will receive a notification to update...still following
up on whether these will be step releases (DG27 to DI07 to DI18, etc.) or if they will be from the old release directly to the current (for example, DG27 to EC05).
Source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/273315#273315
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So odin back to di18 and check for the update to see what happens.
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I did that and the first thing it wanted to do, is the voice mail update
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Can you site a source of your "facts" that specifically say there will be no update from EB13 to EC05, or should we just call this a vent (maybe even a troll) and end it here?
You people act like this would be the first time sprint said something that didn't come true. Hell, the Epic was coming with FROYO since November. It's only 4 months later, and they still aren't shipping froyo on the phones, and it came out in what, last may?
Facts? Yes, how about the FACT that it WAS stated that 18 and 13 were BOTH getting 05, then it changed it changed to 18 getting it, and 13 by 1am est, NOW it's changed to 3 previous getting the update? However, the FACT still stands, only 18 is getting 05. Everything I've posted is FACT, the only one inferred was that it's not coming tonight.
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Can you site a source of your "facts" that specifically say there will be no update from EB13 to EC05, or should we just call this a vent (maybe even a troll) and end it here?
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Agreed. I don't want this to be a back-and-forth argument.
However, if you can cite a source proving your statements, I would accept them and be on my way.
Edit: @NoSoMo, look, I understand why you're feeling like that. However, it is Samsung who is developing the software, not Sprint. Samsung develops, Sprint delivers. Besides, people already have EC05, which means Sprint ISN'T LYING.
We will get it in due time, and if we don't, then I would just odin to get it.
Please don't get angered by this; I don't want an argument. I agree with you; most likely we will not get it today. But I do believe we will within this week (Sunday, if we're that unlucky)
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However, the FACT still stands, only 18 is getting 05. Everything I've posted is FACT, the only one inferred was that it's not coming tonight.
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NoSoMo said:
Updating to 05 via 13 IS NOT AVAILABLE AND WILL NOT BE THIS WEEK.
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You state that it is not available (assumed currently), which is a fact as of this minute. You then make a very bold FACTUAL claim that it will not be available this week. I am asking you to site the source of this FACT. There are people that read this forum for FACTUAL information, and when you make a statement like that, it is going to freak people out, POSSIBLY FOR NO REASON.
If you would have said "and I bet it won't be available at all this week", or "watch it not be available at all this week", that is an opinion, and that is cool. You made a FACTUAL statement off of what DOCUMENTED FACT???
In the end you could very well be right, but not because of fact, but because you took a chance and got lucky, I am just asking you to take a little responsibility in what you post on forums, especially about such a hot topic.
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You state that it is not available (assumed currently), which is a fact as of this minute. You then make a very bold FACTUAL claim that it will not be available this week. I am asking you to site the source of this FACT. There are people that read this forum for FACTUAL information, and when you make a statement like that, it is going to freak people out, POSSIBLY FOR NO REASON.
If you would have said "and I bet it won't be available at all this week", or "watch it not be available at all this week", that is an opinion, and that is cool. You made a FACTUAL statement off of what DOCUMENTED FACT???
In the end you could very well be right, but not because of fact, but because you took a chance and got lucky, I am just asking you to take a little responsibility in what you post on forums, especially about such a hot topic.
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You bring out a good point Milkman, although a little too argumental (I'm trying to keep some tranquility here )
@NoSoMo, he's right. You are basing everything on opinion and past events that make you believe Sprint will not deliver their promise. An inference is fine, but please reword it so you don't say "facts".
Guys, look. I didn't want all of this to turn into an argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Please, I do not want a flame war. Can we all agree to drop this?
I just got tired of waiting so I went to Androidcentral and and used their rom and flashed from EB13 to EC05. It worked great and I didn't lose any data. http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...ooted-cwm-v2-5-1-0-rfs-odexed.html#post761525
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I just got tired of waiting so I went to Androidcentral and and used their rom and flashed from EB13 to EC05. It worked great and I didn't lose any data. http://forum.androidcentral.com/epi...ooted-cwm-v2-5-1-0-rfs-odexed.html#post761525
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I'd do that if I could, but I have a mac and no availability to a PC as of now. Also, I would prefer to root my phone to ext4/cwm3 (I realize you can just update over it, but eh, I'm more comfortable with my own preferences)
If the build date of the leaks wasn't enough proof that Motorola is very busy working on Kit Kat, let this be further proof:
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-x-get-android-44-kitkat-matter-weeks
Needless to say, I am impressed.
I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.
And then Verizon "tests" it for next 9 months.
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xpc21 said:
I hope so, im in pain seeing users here from AT&T enjoying their 4.4.
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I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.
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I'm talking more on Motorola's end. This is quite admirable what they're doing.
Obviously, the carriers will **** around like they always do. But that's not Motorola's fault really.
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I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.
This is good news! Hopefully Verizon won't be too far behind. Maybe a couple weeks like the camera update.
Verizon soak test emails are being sent out
Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
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Yup I can confirm i just got an email for the vzw soak test
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.
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Accidental thanks Dumb question ahead, but whats a soak test?
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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It's basically an opt-in staged roll out. If you register, you have the ability to be the first to receive an update... so there's a sizeable pool for motorola to determine if there are any major bugs before giving it to the masses. Typically, these things happen and everyone else gets the update about a week later.
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A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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I see! Funny name though
xpc21 said:
A soak test is where a group of people are chosen to do a sort of private beta test on the firmware, to make sure things don't assplode or catch fire before the software is rolled out to everyone.
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such original wording!
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-moto-x-soak-test-invites-going-out-again
Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite
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Hadn't registered my X for MFN since i just got it Friday. I went in now and registered. We'll see if I get an invite
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What's MFN?
br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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It is mototora forum page.
br0nx finest said:
What's MFN?
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Motorola feedback network.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/77d4221775
You need to do it if you want to have a chance at being invited for soak.
Verizon guys are already getting soak tests and us Dev Edition owners have nothing. Weird.
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I never understood why the carriers didn't have an opt-in program to get updates ASAP that essentially cut off your customer service if you opted in. Here, you can do it, but no, we won't help you. Its a flag on your account, so anywhere you go they'll see it and know not to help you. Their point is that they don't want to help people on 'untested' updates... fine then, don't help them. But this would be a HUGE PR boon for whatever carrier does it.
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It's probably because to most people updates are not something they think about. The people that unsupported updates would appeal to are probably very small and at least to the carriers probably seems more complicated to have more programs rather than less.
The other concern of theirs isn't support. It's about their network. Verizon is really strict about how their network can be used and that's a big part of the reason that ATT got the iPhone for years before verizon. They want absolute control over how the network is used probably due to a fear of a small number of devices clogging up bandwidth.
The funny thing is in spite of the rules bootloaders get unlocked. Phones get rooted. ROMs get flashed and it doesn't seem to cause many apparent problems.
Edit: and I'll just add that most carrier support is clueless anyway - most answers are
-reset your phone
-delete all of your apps.
-do something you already tried.
I hope 4.4 kit kat won't affect Moto X's good battery life.