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At&TS new $50 unlimited everything plan?

Anyone know which phones work on this? I was told smartphones need a separate data plan, but what if I used unbranded or Canadian Phone?
I just bought a att 3g compatible nexus one. Will that work? And if they do detect my imei as a smartphone, can I just pop it into a dumbphone and switch right back to my nexus to get data again? Or would I have to call customer service?
I think the plan is similar to the medianet plan, what experience do you have with that?
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If they don't recognize the IMEI it'll probably work on medianet. I know some folks using unlocked T-Mo Vibrants and imported Galaxy S IIs on the $50 prepaid deal and it's working.

as long as it isn't ATT branded then you should be fine

My nexus isn't branded. I heard some reports of att getting the tmo nexus imeis but didn't hear about the att version! I'm nervous BC I already bought it haha
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Bump for some help pplz, will help me make decisions!
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Bump for some help pplz, will help me make decisions!
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http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...erything-plan-including-data.-Which-ones-work
Most or all unbranded phones will work. Barely any old ATT branded phones work. No iphones work.
This is without buying the additional data. ATT will give you data if they think you are using a featurephone, like unbranded phones. Speeds will be throttled though to about 0.50 mbps.
If you want unthrottled speeds, buy a straight talk nokia e71 and swap the sim out. It is $45/mo. The e71 can be bought for $100 from their website right now as a refurbished phone. http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work!
Says iphone, but you can any phone. You can use att branded phones or unbranded phones it does not matter. Data is limited to about 2gb even though it says unlimited. They will cancel your account if you use too much.

Thanks so much. So much. You have no idea. Thanks. Thank you soooooo much. I had no idea straight talk worked too. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Super thanks. More help is appreciated too.!!!!!
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Most or all unbranded phones will work. Barely any old ATT branded phones work. No iphones work.
This is without buying the additional data. ATT will give you data if they think you are using a featurephone, like unbranded phones. Speeds will be throttled though to about 0.50 mbps.
If you want unthrottled speeds, buy a straight talk nokia e71 and swap the sim out. It is $45/mo. The e71 can be bought for $100 from their website right now as a refurbished phone. http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...!-Everything-you-need-to-know-to-make-it-work!
Says iphone, but you can any phone. You can use att branded phones or unbranded phones it does not matter. Data is limited to about 2gb even though it says unlimited. They will cancel your account if you use too much.
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Also forgot to say, H2O wireless has a unlimited talk and text plan with 250mb of data for $50 per month. It uses the att network just like straight talk does. You can bring any phone you want I think. Just get a sim card from them.
https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/pageControl.php?page=index
or https://www.h2owirelessnow.com/pageControl.php?page=simDetail&p_code=SIM001&x=147&y=22 for just the sim kit.

that sounds too good to be true

It is true!
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ImDonly1 said:
This is without buying the additional data. ATT will give you data if they think you are using a featurephone, like unbranded phones. Speeds will be throttled though to about 0.50 mbps.
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I know this is not true with the postpaid Medianet plan. Is this something that only applies to the prepaid medianet feature?

How much are you guys paying total for medianet? And yeah its just for the gophone prepaid that they throttle
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vinvam said:
I know this is not true with the postpaid Medianet plan. Is this something that only applies to the prepaid medianet feature?
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How much are you guys paying total for medianet? And yeah its just for the gophone prepaid that they throttle
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They only throttle the prepaid plan. The postpaid medianet is $10/month if you get unlimited texting. Or it is $15 without any texting I think.

How much do you pay for minutes? What's the cheapest package like $40?
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vinvam said:
I know this is not true with the postpaid Medianet plan. Is this something that only applies to the prepaid medianet feature?
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It's true with the actual monthly accounts before I got my captivate I was using a modified and unlocked Motorola Rizr Z9, within about 2 hours after switching to my Captivate I had a 2GB a month plan tacked onto my line without any authorization from me.

[Q] Unlimited Data/Android Detection?

Hey everyone. I just got an Atrix from a buddy and did the bootloader unlock. Will ATT recognized that I have a smartphone now that its rooted? I have a plan now that has the non-smartphone unlimited data and dont want to lose it. So is there a way to hide the fact that I have a smartphone? Is it an app or something I need?

Anybody have a serious answer?

Yes, AT&T will know.
Your phone's IMEI number tells them what phone you have.
And no, you cannot legally change that number.
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rjohnstone said:
Yes, AT&T will know.
Your phone's IMEI number tells them what phone you have.
And no, you cannot legally change that number.
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THIS.
I can confirm that T-Mobile and ATT both know what phone you have from your IMEI. And not just phone model, but the specific phone you have. The IMEI is like a serial number.
Also, who knows what kind of monitoring software Moto put on the phone. I know I saw someone in the Motorola Owners Forum who was getting some help from Moto on a particular issue. They were able to tell what version of software they had on it and everything, although I think this is limited to Moto builds.

True, AT&T can tell exactly what phone you have by the IMEI number, but only for phones they have in their system. So, if you bought an unlocked smartphone that was not intended for release on AT&T, then you should be able to tell them whatever you want.
Just a note though, I'm going solely on personal experience. And I also believe that it wouldn't work out for long as smartphones and feature phones access/use data differently. But I did have a N1 and HTC Legend, both times AT&T had no idea what phone I was using even after telling them the IMEI#. Of course, the system they use could be more sophisticated now too, so who knows.
hugh jass said:
Hey everyone. I just got an Atrix from a buddy and did the bootloader unlock. Will ATT recognized that I have a smartphone now that its rooted? I have a plan now that has the non-smartphone unlimited data and dont want to lose it. So is there a way to hide the fact that I have a smartphone? Is it an app or something I need?
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rjohnstone said:
Yes, AT&T will know.
Your phone's IMEI number tells them what phone you have.
And no, you cannot legally change that number.
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Thanks guys. I guess as soon as I put my sim in they will know its an atrix and upgraded (downgrade!) my plan from unlimited tothe "pay as you surf" plan? I remember back in the day when I jailbroke and unlocked an old 2g iphone they had no clue it was an iphone(piece of crap which I hated) somehow. So I guess theres no way around this?

Rooting and unlocking wont really effect the ability to identify the phone.
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hugh jass said:
Thanks guys. I guess as soon as I put my sim in they will know its an atrix and upgraded (downgrade!) my plan from unlimited tothe "pay as you surf" plan? I remember back in the day when I jailbroke and unlocked an old 2g iphone they had no clue it was an iphone(piece of crap which I hated) somehow. So I guess theres no way around this?
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Since your current plan was an unlimited plan (although a non-smartphone one) you may be able to get them to grandfather you into the unlimited smartphone plan instead of the tiered data plan. Never hurts to ask.

I think they keep track of the 4g phones more than others.
I got the $10 data smartphone plan in 2008 and went through (purchased separately)
htc touch dual, htc fuze, lg expo, xperia x10 and my plan never changed.
As soon as I put a sim card in my atrix (7/2011), the next day i got a text that my plan was changed to a 2gb

I used a Rogers HTC Dream (G1 that gets 3G on AT&T) and never had a problem. I upgraded to the Nexus One when it came out and used it about 6 months on the $10 data plan. I received a message from AT&T over the summer of 2010 then saying that I had added the $30/month unlimited package.
AT&T never even sold the Nexus One (purchased it directly from Google) and they still applied it.

Anyone Running Their Nexus 4 On AT&T MediaNet?

I've been running phones on medianet unlimited for over 7 years now. In the past I saw threads where the original Nexus and Nexus S were detected by AT&T and were forced to use smartphone plans. Before purchasing this phone I wanted to check if this version of the Nexus was also detected as a smartphone. I've been using an international galaxy Note for a year on the $10 medianet plan and was hoping the Nexus 4 could also work on medianet.
Thanks

No, sorry
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There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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N!ghtgold said:
There are some that are using medianet with their smartphones.. You need to change the apn settings to whatever they are for medianet.. If I run by the forums with the information I will post it here for you.
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I think the question is not in th APN used, but if AT&T recognizes IMEI number as smartphone - if it does, it will force data plan on you.
I've been usin Nokia phones for several years across the family and haven't paid more than $10/month for unlimited internet...
Wonder if the same trick will work with Nexus 4...
Anyone n the know - could you please post?

when I get my N4, I plan on switching to medianet $15/month unlimited data. Hopefully they wont recognize the IMEI

Medianet plan does not work with nexus 4..just came from att store..and rep put medianet plan for me..but when i got home..i recived text from att that i have smartphone.

Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.

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Been running MediaNet all day on my N4, got a smartphone prompt on my GNex a few times...a quick call into customer service fixes it right away.
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That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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foehammer92 said:
That's great! I was wondering if you could report here occasionally for a few weeks to keep us updated on whether you still have medianet or if you got switched. Would be much appreciated!
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Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.

i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?

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i call att and got medianet back...does anyone if it runs on HSPA+? any APN setting for it?
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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I'm getting it using wap.cingular
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you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.

pbpatel1981 said:
you mean default apn? well that work fine for me too but i am not sure if its HSPA+ or not..
i watch transformer with out any problem.
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It is, you can find it by going to settings>about phone>status and look under mobile network type.
If your connection is idle it will say HSPA:10 but fire up Pandora or any music service and check, it will say HSPA:15

Just ordered the gn4 for the gf, hopefully the dumb phone data plan will still work for it

Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.

decepticon said:
Will do, I am sure that even if they change it I will be able to get customer service to change it again. Never had a problem with them questioning me.
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Thanks for the info about calling customer service! What do you usually tell them? I just got flagged on my gnex and will getting my nexus 4 soon. Should I say something along the lines of "I don't have a smart phone."

azncber said:
Yeah definitely hoping this will not get flagged and continue working. The phone has amazing specs and is dirt cheap. Definitely much cheaper than the HTC One X and has pretty much the same specs but for half the price.
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AT&T doesn't seem to know this phone's a smartphone. When I switched my SIM from my Nexus One to the Nexus 4, my 2GB DataPro plan was removed and changed to whatever their dumbphone unlimtied plan was.
It was a pain in ass to get them to switch it back to a 2GB DataPro w/ LTE plan. Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.

krhainos said:
Without the LTE plan, you don't have access to the HSPA+ APN, so you'll be limited to 1mbit downstream max. People have been getting ~3-5mbit (or higher I think) on the HSPA+ APN.
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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.

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Where'd you hear that the MediaNET cap is 1Mbps? AFAIK, it's 7Mbps. That's what the GSIII forums say. I can't even run Speedtest.net (says I'm getting 0.8KB/s...) so I can't verify, but I'm pretty sure I'm getting over 1Mbps. In fact, the Galaxy S came from still gets 400KB/s (~3.2Mbps) so I'm pretty sure that MediaNET goes above 1Mbps.
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I didn't hear that MEdiaNet was throttled, but I did experience something similar to your situation. While on "wap.cingular", Speedtest.net would act strange(9kbps downstream, ~1mbit up). I went to the store and got a new MicroSIM I couldn't get anything faster than 1Mbit. I called in, told them the Nexus 4 was an LTE phone so I could get provisioned for the HSPA+ APN's. They told me to power cycle (I just switched APN's from "wap.cingular" to "pta"), and I immediately saw 3Mbit.
So given this, I can only deduce that whatever plan I was provisioned for when I was taken off my 2GB DataPro was capped at 1Mbit. Given your findings, I'm concluding that anyone that had 3G service(MEdiaNet) before they rolled out HSPA+/LTEhad an unthrottled 3G service and anyone that gets it today gets throttled("Featurephone Data").
Also, the fact your Speedtest.net app is acting funny is usually a sign you're on the gimped plan that I got auto-switched to("Featurephone Data").
I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.

Tbh, I don't really care for this thread. I can see that I'm getting HSPA+:15 when I use cellular data, and my transfer speeds are as good as they were with my old phone. I'm only paying $10 for almost 3G (US 3G is the worst 3G...), and ~400KB/s is fast enough for my usage. I can even streaming HD Netflix; I don't, but it's a good benchmark.
Also, the MediaNET plans are not monitored for consumption at all, so I have a true unlimited plan. When I first moved into a new apartment last October, Comcast was being stupid and couldn't get me internet for 3 weeks. I tethered for myself, my roommate, and all of our many daily guests. >10GB down during that time, at least 2GB up, and not a word from AT&T. Until AT&T gets a Nexus 4 variant, I'm not worried about my IMEI being recognized as a smartphone and automatically jacked up to an overpriced 2GB plan with faster speeds but marginal real-world benefit.
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I can only guess and share my experiences -- since it seems the AT&T monster and their inner workings are far more complex then I gave them credit for. The same wap.cingular APN I was on, doesn't seem to be the same one those GS III guys are on.
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There's something we can wholeheartedly agree on. AT&T, y u so evil?

Changing carriers

Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.

Sprint is your only option for unlimited data. They don't have HSPA, but are substantially cheaper than Verizon.

I just switched from Verizon to ATT yesterday coming from Unlimited as well.
I switched mainly because of the lack of service in my area of work and lack of availability of phones. Does going from Unlimited to 5Ggb suck, yes, but I also have service where I work and will be able to get the beloved HTC One. I'll just need to keep an eye on my usage from now on.
I pay $10 for every GB I go over which doesn't sound too bad to me.

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Hi, XDA
Needed a little help currently here in the good old U.S.A and on verizon wireless i am thinking about switching carriers one reason is my phone of choice is the Htc One, also thinking of switching because of the things that i can do on some of the other networks here in the states like talk and surf at the same time not only on 4g lte but also on 3g hspa+, which is another thing that i liked because if im in an area that 4g lte is not available i can fall back on hspa+ which is faster than verizon cdma 3g network that tops out at 1.5-2mb down and .4mb up.
The reason why i am holding on to verizon is that I have unlimited data no throttling or data overages and I am planning to buy my phones at full retail to keep me out of contracts with these companies and also keep my unlimited data because i use alot of data i mean 8gb a month avaerage over 4months i guess if i stay with verizon i would have to settle for the samsung plastic s4 or wait for the google x phone. just want to hear some opinions or advice thanks in advance.
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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.

I'm joining my fiance's AT&T plan here in NY, there data for two lines isn't horrible. $150 for Unlimited Talk/Text and 4GB shared data for $150 for a few business/pleasure phones isn't too bad, she's paying $100 a month for her non-smartphone though, ****ing crazy!

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Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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you order the HTC One on locked can you provide link plz, and i did not even think about staright talk that looks really promising same network as AT&T unlimited calls and text plus data unlimited? now im sure they throttle usage over a certain amount just not sure what that amount of data would be.

Witek_M said:
Straight Talk is AT&T MVNO and offers "unlimited" everything at $45/month, no contract. I have been using it with Galaxy Nexus for over a year.
When my unlocked HTC One arrives I will trim the sim and use it.
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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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Marcismo55 said:
The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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You order a sim card from straight Talks website
Straight Talk uses Verizon towers where I live, my wife too uses it with her gnex
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ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.

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The Straight Talk that ATT doesn't provide sims for or with T-Mobile?
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It does but HTC One 801e I have ordered does not have frequencies that are needed with T-Mobile.

jammicphi said:
ok just looked over somethings, thinking im staying with the plan to go with AT&T 1. I would get 4g lte with them 2. wont get throttled after 100mb-300mb of data usage.
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What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.

blane237 said:
What city do you live in? Based on your answer I can better give a suggestion.
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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs

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Chicagoland area or should I say Chicago surrounding suburbs
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Then I say Sprint. They are about 90% done with their Network Vision upgrade in Chicago.
You can visit Sensorly.com so that you can see how their LTE coverage is in your area.

[Q] Unlocked N7 2013 LTE on Ting

Has anyone been able to do this? I was thinking of getting a tablet but Verizon makes you switch to a share plan and that would end my unlimited data. I don't like any of their tablets either. So I was looking around and saw someone had gotten the N7 to use the Verizon LTE so I was curious if someone has got it working on Ting which uses the Sprint network.

TheDroidURLookinFor said:
Has anyone been able to do this? I was thinking of getting a tablet but Verizon makes you switch to a share plan and that would end my unlimited data. I don't like any of their tablets either. So I was looking around and saw someone had gotten the N7 to use the Verizon LTE so I was curious if someone has got it working on Ting which uses the Sprint network.
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No. The N7 is not capable of using Sprint's LTE network at all. The end.
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No. The N7 is not capable of using Sprint's LTE network at all. The end.
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Thank you for the quick reply. That just shows how little I know. I thought since both were CMDA networks they would be compatible. My mistake. This sucks since Verizon's data is way too expensive.

TheDroidURLookinFor said:
Thank you for the quick reply. That just shows how little I know. I thought since both were CMDA networks they would be compatible. My mistake. This sucks since Verizon's data is way too expensive.
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I'd recommend just finding a GSM network. The N7 works on AT&T and T-Mobile as well, and by extension works on prepaid networks which utilize AT&T or T-Mobile (Straight Talk, Aio, etc.)
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I'd recommend just finding a GSM network. The N7 works on AT&T and T-Mobile as well, and by extension works on prepaid networks which utilize AT&T or T-Mobile (Straight Talk, Aio, etc.)
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Why the GSM recommendation? Am I missing something?

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Why the GSM recommendation? Am I missing something?
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Well, it won't work on Sprint and you said Verizon is too expensive. Why wouldn't you consider using AT&T or T-mobile?

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Well, it won't work on Sprint and you said Verizon is too expensive. Why wouldn't you consider using AT&T or T-mobile?
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AT&T service is just horrible in my area. I could give T-mobile a shot I guess.