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Voice to Text & Voice Dialing: Good enough rely on 100%? screen 2 wide for 1 handing
Is the Voice to Text and Voice Dialing good enough on the Epic 4G that I can rely on it 100%?
The phone is too wide for me to use with one hand, and I "one hand" it frequently throughout my work day. I'm not even going to mention driving.
Thanks.
You must have small hands lol. Fits just fine in my hand. As for voice dialing I've never used it. But voice to text works great for me while driving. Just make sure there isn't too much background noise or it will mess up. And it doesn't know some words.
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Are you running Eclair or Froyo? Froyo has much improved voice functions that are pretty damn accurate.
muyoso said:
Are you running Eclair or Froyo? Froyo has much improved voice functions that are pretty damn accurate.
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Thanks for asking.
I'm actually still stuck with a Touch Pro 2 because I was waiting to see HTC's replacement (Evo Shift 4G) before I made a decision.
But, I have played with the Epic a bit.
Now, I have to decide between the Epic and the Shift.
Has anyone who has installed the 3.2 OTA update been able to ascertain improvement with microphone input? Very interested for voice input purposes, which as of now is not functioning on my A500.
I would love to know the answer to that as well.
I'm running 3.1, which is known to have mic issues, and I'm barely audible to the person on the other side of video chat. Running the voice recording app confirms mic input is extremely low.
Hopefully 3.2 fixes this. If not, I'll have to dump this tablet on eBay.
Its a hardware problem, the software wont do anything.
You can try to mod it yourself like I did
if is a hardware issue, why connecting an external mic doesn't improve the recording level ?
I wasn't aware you could connect an external mic. Isn't the headset port for output only?
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Johnny0906 said:
Its a hardware problem, the software wont do anything.
You can try to mod it yourself like I did
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Where is the post describing your mod?
The 3.2 update doesn't change a thing about the mic. Boosting the input level 20db in software also increases the level of the considerable system noise. Only a hardware mod would fix it.
Aside from the minnor 4 ounces weight disadvantage over the lightest tabs out there, the mic is the one major problem with this tab. It seems designed for the near proximity audio source of a mobile phone.
Oh...
In that case, would anyone like to buy an Acer Iconia A500 Tablet? Used but in MINT conditon!
documentaryman said:
Where is the post describing your mod?
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Aside from the minnor 4 ounces weight disadvantage over the lightest tabs out there, the mic is the one major problem with this tab. It seems designed for the near proximity audio source of a mobile phone.
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The mic response on mine is substantially worse than that on my OG Droid. On the Droid 1, mic and voice input is surprisingly excellent. At the same distance, the A500 is unusable for voice input. Except for that, it's a fine machine, but this aspect has me on the fence about whether to return it or not. So I am looking for any approach to fix it: HW mod, upgrade, bluetooth input, wired mic input. Nothing so far is satisfactory, or even nearly as good as the Droid from 2 years ago.
Are you really selling?
How much and how? Lol
3.2 makes no improvement but I am not sure that it is just a hardware fault. Recording level is better in the camcorder app than in the voice recorder one.
I had a video call to an Ipad the other day, their voice was crystal clear but they complained that mine was very hard to hear. I suspect that when Skype becomes available for Tegra tabs there will be a lot of people complaining about their A500!
I am wondering if anyone has found a mic to use that gives good volume for talk. One of the things I want to use this to do is video chat with my father, it's kind of a let down that this doesn't seem like an easy fix.
The funny thing is that there are reports of people using headphone/headsets from their cell phones (with three strips instead of two strips in normal stereo headphones) as a workaround. It does not work for me and can make the microphone input even worse on voice recorder. I cannot confirm if the device has the hardware for the 3.5mm jack to have 2 output and 1 input.
Others have also said it is a software issue that crept up. It was non-existent in 3.0.1 and appeared in 3.1. Yet, another responded that they downgraded from 3.1 to 3.0.1 and the issue was still there.
I have read on other forums that the Android update to 3.1 had caused the mic to be useless on other brand tablets as well, which lends to something not specific to our A500 hardware.
Now, in this thread more people are convinced it is a hardware issue.
I'm lost as to what to think, and how some people in this forum are satisfied with their Mic performance. (That or they never use video chat)
My experience:
Voice input seems to work perfectly for me (Searching accurately for addresses and stuff on Google) but the microphone in voice recorder barely picks up a recognizable sound, which also translates into chatting with the Gtalk application.
I cannot confirm that 3.0.1 did not have the mic problem, as I updated to 3.1 immediately after getting the tablet.
I would think if the mic input barely registers a sound, how can the voice input search work so well for me from the same speaking distance? If it were a hardware problem, then the voice search would fail to register the specific sounds of my voice to get detailed information on addresses or items i am searching for. Right? Maybe others can confirm that the voice input for google'ing pics up spoken voice loud, clear, and accurately (maybe depending on accent or not).
Based on this, I am hard pressed to believe this is a hardware problem (not that the microphone is A+ quality either, but it should be decent enough). Hardware is the constant, software/driver is what can change the functionality. I dont know if the ROM cookers or Kernel developers can find us a solution, should this be software.
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Based on this, I am hard pressed to believe this is a hardware problem (not that the microphone is A+ quality either, but it should be decent enough). Hardware is the constant, software/driver is what can change the functionality. I dont know if the ROM cookers or Kernel developers can find us a solution, should this be software.
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You are correct. Hardware is not an issue, because the mic works well enough in other applications. Either the app us at fault or some plug in.
I can confirm voice input works well but any voice communication like GV is garbage. if I speak directly perpendicular to the mike about 10 inches away it's usable but not great for google voice.
Hmm, thought provoking posts.
One poster was remarking that the video recordings were working OK, but the GV ones were not good. My understanding is that there are mics, one on the front side, top center of screen, and one back side, under the back panel. It's tempting to think that the video recording was OK because it was picked up mostly by the camera-side mic, and GV wasn't because it was picked up by the screen-side mic.
I suspect that the two mics have some noise-cancelling function so it'd be partly the differential signal that would matter, sometimes.
So it would be interesting to try voice input, like GV, on the FF camera side (the wrong side) of the tab, to see if it's better. It'd also be interesting to see whether disconnecting one mic would unconfuse some software confused by the differential signal. So far, I haven't had my case apart, so I'm less inclined to try that. I still don't have my 3.2 update, but sounds like they didn't work on it.
I saw a brief note in the bluetooth section of the user guide that the BT mic portion of the spec wasn't implemented yet, so implementing that is another potential workaround.
I thought for a while that the inline mics integrated into some wired earbuds with those 4 contact plugs might also be a workaround, but when I tried one, it didn't seem much better than speaking into the mic, so I suspect that maybe it isn't even working, either.
I got mine at Costco, so it can still be returned. But it also occurred to me that Costco ought to be motivated not to have these returned. A Costco-backed straight answer from Acer, with a planned fix, would probably prevent many returns, especially, as one poster pointed out, Skype doesn't work when it's supposed to. Makes me think a strategic call to Costco buyer might uncover something.
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How much and how? Lol
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Sorry freak. Provantage was kind enough to accept my request to return it as a defective device. I'll be picking up the Samsung Tab 10.1 from them. Video chat and Google+ hangouts were a big part of me justifying this purchase.
To those on the fence about returning it:
Try using the Samsung. While I loved all the features of the Acer, the Tab 10.1 is much more satisfying in actual use. I think the $100 premium over the Iconia is well justified once you've used both for more than 10 minutes.
San Pedro said:
I am wondering if anyone has found a mic to use that gives good volume for talk. One of the things I want to use this to do is video chat with my father, it's kind of a let down that this doesn't seem like an easy fix.
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There is one for apple its called like imic or something. It plugs into in headjack about the size of tip of pinky.
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qhinton said:
There is one for apple its called like imic or something. It plugs into in headjack about the size of tip of pinky.
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Is it this one?
http://touchmic.com/tag/microphone-for-ipad/
Have you used it before? I'm weary to buy something that will not work.
I am finding more people who say that after updating to 3.2 their mic quality dropped considerably.
I have been using Skype and Gtalk as well as attempting to record using the Recorder app ... and all of them record a very poor quality sound in Android 3.2.
In Skype I attempted the test call and was able to hear my recording played back. It was barely loud enough and there were dropouts and pops/clicks etc.
I spoke to an Acer rep about a week ago and he said that the mic issues were addressed in update 3.2 ... which proves that this is most likely a software issue to some degree.
Very frustrating!
I recently installed Tape-aTalk and it records very clearly with the device about half an arms length away from my mouth ... again this points to there being a software issue with some apps ....
Ok I have searched and searched and have not found a good explanation as to why the microphone sucks so bad for Skype and Talk. Is it the noise cancelling s/w? Is it the placement of the mics? I have to believe it is mostly an issue that can be fixed in s/w. What can I do to make this work correctly?
unfortunately .
Sometimes when something sucks it just sucks.. There have been lots of people asking this same thing.. And this tablet has been out what 6-7 months now.If you do find a reason please post back so we can all get the mic issue working ..
Sorry it just sucks ...
Sure but with all the smart folks at Acer and the smart folks who tweak apps/ROMs/etc I would think we would have a better solution.
Considering how good microphones are in common cell phones with their tiny dimensions, the microphone in the A500 is surprisingly bad. I doubt it can be improved with software unless someone makes a really good EQ program that can affect the microphone input. but I have yet to see one that allows selecting the microphone as a source and can modify it.
Must just be an extremely low cost component or poorly mounted or otherwise crippled somehow.
I have been using a Sony headset made for a PSP that works exponentially better. The built in one is next to worthless.
This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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Mine sounds perfect on my system n my GTO, what's code gonna do?
but have you ever run other devices prior to the G2 in it?
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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Mine sounds perfect on my system n my GTO, what's code gonna do?
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Beats, DSP Manager, etc.
There are a bunch of audio enhancements that have been ported to different devices, through third party development.
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
http://www.phonedog.com/products/lg-g2/
Says aptX included on some sites.
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but have you ever run other devices prior to the G2 in it?
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Yes, Nexus 4, Optimistic pro, note, note2, gs2...... I could go on......
rodimus_prime said:
This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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I'm also having issues. Not only is the volume really low, it also plays slow so everything sounds like a 12" records on the wrong speed. Iphone from before worked fine.
o0radryan0o said:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4216
http://www.phonedog.com/products/lg-g2/
Says aptX included on some sites.
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This may not be updated, but usually they are pretty good at tooting their horn before things are released.
http://www.csr.com/technology-solutions/av/audio-products-powered-by-csr-aptx/brand/LG
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I have not seen any mention of aptX on G2. Without it, it won't compete with new Samsungs.
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Is AptX software feature and not hard wired into QSD 800? I don't know, I'm just asking
Billy Madison said:
Is AptX software feature and not hard wired into QSD 800? I don't know, I'm just asking
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It is a proprietary standard for CD quality bluetooth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AptX
I am also having issues w/ bluetooth in my car. I can get it connected, but it doesn't seem to want to stay connected. Mid song, the car stereo will all of a sudden drop the connection and switch to a different input ("normal" behavior when the source is disconnected. Acts the same way if you disconnect ipod from USB cable). I had an iphone 4s & Lumia 920 that did not act this way prior to my G2. Anyone try to OTA update to see if it improved things?
bri315317 said:
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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What year and model is your BMW and what system do you have in it? I agree with the origional post saying the quality is noticable crappy with my BMWs sound system (2013 X1 with HK and idrive). My Note II sounded perfect but my G2 sounds terrible. Especially if I crank it. I would really appreciate it if anyone had a solution because if not this otherwise great phone will have to go back
I'm a bit of an audiophile so being able to have my FLAC files is nice. I realize that Bluetooth obviously isn't streaming raw PCM, but having good quality source material can help. That and it just makes me feel better knowing.
I just wish I could navigate beyond the current playlist using the controls on the steering wheel. I have a "menu" button, but's greyed out. Same with the old GNex. I have a feeling the car is design specifically to work best with an iPhone.
Bluetooth issue
bri315317 said:
Mine sounds fine compared to the S4 in my BMW. ONLY Difference is Maybe alittle less bass response on the G2. Not much tho
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Just got the lgg2 and the phone and streaming music via Bluetooth work fine in my car [2013 BMW]. However, when connected to the car via Bluetooth, neither the phones mic nor the car mic work for voice commands [like for dictating an email or text or google searches]. Probably a deal killer for me unless I can find a solution. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as otherwise I really like the phone.
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What year and model is your BMW and what system do you have in it? I agree with the origional post saying the quality is noticable crappy with my BMWs sound system (2013 X1 with HK and idrive). My Note II sounded perfect but my G2 sounds terrible. Especially if I crank it. I would really appreciate it if anyone had a solution because if not this otherwise great phone will have to go back
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2013 550 with HK and Idrive. Only difference I found is in bass response. G2 has less bass but was able to compensate for it in the EQ settings. What do you find worse?
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2013 550 with HK and Idrive. Only difference I found is in bass response. G2 has less bass but was able to compensate for it in the EQ settings. What do you find worse?
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The music is fuzzy or has a hiss or something. It just isn't clear and crisp like on my note ii or my friends iphones. It is most noticeable when the music get busy (bass treble and voice all at once). If I switch to the headphone jack it sounds great again but that defeats the purpose of the bluetooth and audio controls. Out of curiosity do you ever use slacker radio? I am having issues where I can't skip tracks using the car controls like i could on the note ii.
Does anyone know if we can fix this? Modify the bluetooth bitrate or add an additional profile? Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I can't get this fixed in the 14 day return period I will have to find a different phone. I would be happy to pay someone to make a fix. Thanks!
rodimus_prime said:
This is now the 3rd LG phone in a row to completely suck on bluetooth audio quality, my G Pro did, and the Optimus before it also. I have the AT&T version, using bluetooth headphones its not as much of an issue. In cars or on a louder higher quality audio system is where it really shows up. Ive used two diff samsung phone and an iphone 5 that sounded perfect. Even using the wired line in to the car, the volume nearly has to be maxed to have the same level as a iphone on meduim.
I want to like this phone but music is something i do all the time in the car. I had high hopes with LG saying they were putting all this high quality audio in it, but it still sounds like **** compared to other phones.
Does anyone have some code to fix this?, im sure this is something the phone will need rooted to install and im open to doing that. I have two G2s and both have the same issue, the company phone obviously I wont root, but the personal phone I just want to improve it to at least what other older smartphones were able to do
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I always play music in my car and I had the GNex. My G2 sounds way better and is louder, I use bluetooth with the (aptx?) spec receiver.
I noticed that when I first used bluetooth for music playback, it sounded fantastic. After using it for a little bit, the sound degraded and it now sounds, well, poor. So... I'm guessing I'm just going to have to go buy an aux cable.
Just curious on your opinion.
My newer one is coming in the mail soon, but how does the Note 2014 compare to the 2012 edition? Worth the upgrade or not?
Much happier, or what features do you wish it kept? Etc.
Hahahalalala said:
Just curious on your opinion.
My newer one is coming in the mail soon, but how does the Note 2014 compare to the 2012 edition? Worth the upgrade or not?
Much happier, or what features do you wish it kept? Etc.
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I loved my N10.1-12; until I got a N3. The 386 DPI display made the 147 PPI display on the N10.1-12 downright painful. There's really nothing I'd say I miss s/w or feature wise when compared to the N10.1-14. Multiview's completely different and S Note's been updated. You'll hear people say they like the "old way" better. While it's different, once you get use to it, Samsung's logic behind the changes starts to make sense. S Pen being relocated is great because you can access it when the tablet's standing. And I love the new Book Cover. It uses magnets to stay closed (the N10.1-12's flopped around) and you can set Daynote to open when the cover's opened which gives you an enlarged Action Memo space to begin immediately taking notes as well as displaying the weather and your day's agenda. The Book Cover also shuts down the Note when it's closed. People have said the front facing speakers of the old Note were better but I mostly use headphones and haven't noticed a big difference the times I've used the external speakers.
Here what I consider the biggest improvements between the two:
Display. I think it's gorgeous.
Form factor. It's pretty amazing how much bulk and weight Samsung was able to remove.
Software. I like the updated apps that are common, Air Command, Scrap Book, and Action Memo and the generally more contemporary feel.
Things I question:
In some places, like Notification Panel icons being over 1" square, the phone UI on a tablet isn't particularly well implemented.
The new Note is faster than the old but not by as much as the h/w should allow. Good news is the Magazine UX-equipped units at CES looked much faster and more fluid than the N10.1-14 so performance should be addressed by updates. Pinch-zooming to display all home pages on the N10.1-14 isn't particularly pretty.
Battery charging on the Exynos models (P-600/P-601) is slooow - slower than the old N10.1-12. The S-800 P-605 has Qualcomm's Quick Charge feature and charges unusually fast.
I love my N10.1-14 and have no regrets buying it.
Hahahalalala said:
Just curious on your opinion.
My newer one is coming in the mail soon, but how does the Note 2014 compare to the 2012 edition? Worth the upgrade or not?
Much happier, or what features do you wish it kept? Etc.
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I wrote this as soon as I got my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and before I sold my old one: LINK
Now after owning it for about 2 months, I have to honestly say I have no regrets. I actually use it more than my laptop most of the time. The screen is so, so much superior it's no contest. I absolutely love watching things on my tablet and I do so more than the previous gen. For the first time I've also started reading magazines properly on it because the resolution is just so much more pleasing. I prefer the form factor as the newer tablet is lighter now. I can't really remember if the speakers are worse or not to be honest but I think they are fine for me and my needs. This wasn't a necessary upgrade for me, the previous gen was a very good tablet in its own right, but this one is exactly what I wanted. I'm not sure if I'll upgrade again unless it completely changes. I much prefer the look, the form factor and the screen resolution. However, I'm not really fussy probably in comparison to others, before this I never owned a full HD device as I only received my Galaxy Note 3 after. I personally think you will be happy with it though.
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I wrote this as soon as I got my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and before I sold my old one: LINK
Now after owning it for about 2 months, I have to honestly say I have no regrets. I actually use it more than my laptop most of the time. The screen is so, so much superior it's no contest. I absolutely love watching things on my tablet and I do so more than the previous gen. For the first time I've also started reading magazines properly on it because the resolution is just so much more pleasing. I prefer the form factor as the newer tablet is lighter now. I can't really remember if the speakers are worse or not to be honest but I think they are fine for me and my needs. This wasn't a necessary upgrade for me, the previous gen was a very good tablet in its own right, but this one is exactly what I wanted. I'm not sure if I'll upgrade again unless it completely changes. I much prefer the look, the form factor and the screen resolution. However, I'm not really fussy probably in comparison to others, before this I never owned a full HD device as I only received my Galaxy Note 3 after. I personally think you will be happy with it though.
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Wow this is great! Thank you! Also, how much did you sell yours for and where?
Also, is the bluetooth keyboard problem fixed? I use my bluetooth keyboard a lot of my tablet.
Hahahalalala said:
Wow this is great! Thank you! Also, how much did you sell yours for and where?
Also, is the bluetooth keyboard problem fixed? I use my bluetooth keyboard a lot of my tablet.
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Hopefully in the refurb process Samsung adjusted whatever h/w issues were causing the problem. It's kind of been quiet about the issue lately so I'd guess later builds are fine. A lot of people returned or exchanged their tablets, some multiple times, so there's no question that returns that are now refurbs were affected. It's up to Samsung and luck as to whether you will be.
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Hopefully in the refurb process Samsung adjusted whatever h/w issues were causing the problem. It's kind of been quiet about the issue lately so I'd guess later builds are fine. A lot of people returned or exchanged their tablets, some multiple times, so there's no question that returns that are now refurbs were affected. It's up to Samsung and luck as to whether you will be.
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Thanks! How much did you sell your tablet for?
Someone offered 270.
And also, someone said that the new notes doesn't have Cascade view? Opinion on that?
Hahahalalala said:
Wow this is great! Thank you! Also, how much did you sell yours for and where?
Also, is the bluetooth keyboard problem fixed? I use my bluetooth keyboard a lot of my tablet.
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In the end I sold it to a friend but I basically charged slightly more than what I was going to sell it on sellmymobile.com since I gave him a MHL to HDMI adapter also. I got £155. I'd say check on that site to see how much you can sell your tablet for, it's pretty easy as I sold my first galaxy note this way.
I realised the bluetooth keyboard problem was only with the OfficeSuite app. I changed to Jotterpad X and using my bluetooth keyboard was perfectly fine so I'm not quite sure what happened. It's been a while since I've tried using it with OfficeSuite again. I can't say if every bluetooth keyboard will be fine, but mine seems to be okay. As I said before, I used it with the Jotterpad X app and also I've started blogging from the Wordpress app so I've written quite a bit with my keyboard. Here's a link to the keyboard I have:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-FB409AA-ABU-TouchPad-Wireless/dp/B0058CZX70/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391385777&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+bluetooth+keyboard
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In the end I sold it to a friend but I basically charged slightly more than what I was going to sell it on sellmymobile.com since I gave him a MHL to HDMI adapter also. I got £155. I'd say check on that site to see how much you can sell your tablet for, it's pretty easy as I sold my first galaxy note this way.
I realised the bluetooth keyboard problem was only with the OfficeSuite app. I changed to Jotterpad X and using my bluetooth keyboard was perfectly fine so I'm not quite sure what happened. It's been a while since I've tried using it with OfficeSuite again. I can't say if every bluetooth keyboard will be fine, but mine seems to be okay. As I said before, I used it with the Jotterpad X app and also I've started blogging from the Wordpress app so I've written quite a bit with my keyboard. Here's a link to the keyboard I have:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-FB409AA-ABU-TouchPad-Wireless/dp/B0058CZX70/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391385777&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+bluetooth+keyboard
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That was very helpful thank you!
How about how the new note 10.1 took out the cascade view? What was used to replaced, I use cascade view a lot. Especially while I am taking notes and Google something on my notes on the side. I would pin the internet window on top of my notes.
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That was very helpful thank you!
How about how the new note 10.1 took out the cascade view? What was used to replaced, I use cascade view a lot. Especially while I am taking notes and Google something on my notes on the side. I would pin the internet window on top of my notes.
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You can still do that. They still advertise the multiwindow feature and you can have a floating window on top, although if not rooting, the apps are limited. There is a way around that which you can check on here, but it's kind of long. I just quickly grabbed an image from google to show what it looks like: http://blogs.computerworld.com/sites/computerworld.com/files/u177/galaxy-note-101-2014-multi-window.jpg
Edit: This probably shows it off better: http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/multiapp-580x320.jpg
EpicDom said:
In the end I sold it to a friend but I basically charged slightly more than what I was going to sell it on sellmymobile.com since I gave him a MHL to HDMI adapter also. I got £155. I'd say check on that site to see how much you can sell your tablet for, it's pretty easy as I sold my first galaxy note this way.
I realised the bluetooth keyboard problem was only with the OfficeSuite app. I changed to Jotterpad X and using my bluetooth keyboard was perfectly fine so I'm not quite sure what happened. It's been a while since I've tried using it with OfficeSuite again. I can't say if every bluetooth keyboard will be fine, but mine seems to be okay. As I said before, I used it with the Jotterpad X app and also I've started blogging from the Wordpress app so I've written quite a bit with my keyboard. Here's a link to the keyboard I have:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-FB409AA-ABU-TouchPad-Wireless/dp/B0058CZX70/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1391385777&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+bluetooth+keyboard
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EpicDom said:
You can still do that. They still advertise the multiwindow feature and you can have a floating window on top, although if not rooting, the apps are limited. There is a way around that which you can check on here, but it's kind of long. I just quickly grabbed an image from google to show what it looks like: http://blogs.computerworld.com/sites/computerworld.com/files/u177/galaxy-note-101-2014-multi-window.jpg
Edit: This probably shows it off better: http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/multiapp-580x320.jpg
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I won't be able to root mine, esp since its refurbished. And I believe the second image is for the original Note which I have.
So you can have LectureNotes in back and have a google search on top just in a little corner - and pin it? I know about multi-window but why are people complaining about taking out cascade view as a downgrade? Thanks!
Hahahalalala said:
I won't be able to root mine, esp since its refurbished. And I believe the second image is for the original Note which I have.
So you can have LectureNotes in back and have a google search on top just in a little corner - and pin it? I know about multi-window but why are people complaining about taking out cascade view as a downgrade? Thanks!
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There's no Google search app for the floating window, but you can pin a browser and use that for searching. The only apps available right now are the calculator, alarm, youtube, contacts, chaton, hangouts and the default internet browser. Maybe people don't like it because you don't have as much control over the multi-window since it automatically snaps into place?
About BT keyboard problems. I have Belikn BT keyboard. http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5L112/
No BT problems so far.
Hahahalalala said:
Thanks! How much did you sell your tablet for?
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I had an imported 3G so I got $400 for it and a ton of accessories on eBay.
And also, someone said that the new notes doesn't have Cascade view? Opinion on that?
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It's still there, sort of. Pen Window which you can open from the Air Command launcher allows you to have re-sizable "mini" windows running. On my 3G N10.1-14 the apps are:
Multiview now works the way it does on the N3. The N2 and N10.1-12 used completely different multiview methods and, owning both, it drove me crazy. The best part of the new Multiview is that you can have multiple instances of the same app (EG: browser) open, you can drag and drop content between windows, and the control of open windows is now a lot easier.
Another great feature is the automatic use of Multiview in certain apps. Like being in the stock e-mail app and clicking in a link in an e-mail automatically opens the URL in a Multiview window.
Scrap Book takes the old persistent clip board further by allowing you to store and categorize content anywhere you find it. And it syncs with your Samsung account so what you capture on once device is automatically available on all your other Scrap Book-equipped devices.
The drastic s/w changes between the '12 and '14 was kind of a shock at first but the more you use it the more logical the new approach Samsung's taken seems. And like the weather, with potential changes coming in M-UX, if you don't like it it may change.
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gregy74 said:
About BT keyboard problems. I have Belikn BT keyboard. No BT problems so far.
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There's something wrong with some N10.1-14's. Devices that connect fine for some people don't work for others even though the BT devices being attached are identical. People who had problems and exchanged their N10.1-14's had no problems with BT devices they had issues with when using their first device.
The screen on the original note 10.1 was brutal I had it for 30 minutes and packed it back up and returned it to the store - no way I could use that tablet for anything but video - reading text on it was painful - for that alone the new note 10.1 is worth the purchase along with it is much faster, etc. Etc. Etc.
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gregy74 said:
About BT keyboard problems. I have Belikn BT keyboard. http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5L112/
No BT problems so far.
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Does this keyboard fit the Galaxy Note 10.1 well? I just realised this isn't a case, but is it quite compact? I love my HP keyboard, but I do wish it was more portable.
gregy74 said:
About BT keyboard problems. I have Belikn BT keyboard. http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5L112/
No BT problems so far.
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Just checked that out, and I see why you don't have any problems.. For that price, problems should and are, non-existent!!!
I have had mine for a month and a half now and I still cannot put it down. This thing has been perfect for taking notes during lectures. I also use an Anker bluetooth keyboard and HP bluetooth mouse with this tablet along with OfficeSuite Pro to really make this a productivity machine. I had a few bluetooth, WiFi, and lag issues but that seemed to fix itself out of the blue and this thing is running great. Screen is amazing, it's fast for playing all the latest games (and emulators). Best tablet I have ever used definitely worth the upgrade IMHO.
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I also use an Anker bluetooth keyboard and HP bluetooth mouse with this tablet along with OfficeSuite Pro to really make this a productivity machine.
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Quick OT question. How the hell do you get Office Suite Pro to cut/copy/paste when using an off-screen keyboard? I can highlight text just fine but there's no option available to do anything with it. The "help" says a cut/copy/paste sub-menu should pop-up but it doesn't.
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Quick OT question. How the hell do you get Office Suite Pro to cut/copy/paste when using an off-screen keyboard? I can highlight text just fine but there's no option available to do anything with it. The "help" says a cut/copy/paste sub-menu should pop-up but it doesn't.
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I usually have to use the Spen to do that. Maybe they'll fix this in an update because sometimes it is a little annoying.
EDIT: When i double click on a word within a document it highlights it and brings up the menu to either cut/paste/copy. I was just typing an essay for my Pyschology class when I noticed this.
I guess you could say the screen alone is worth it. But there are a few other problems that I'm not happy with on the 2014 Edition. I don't like the hardware and capacitive buttons I much prefer the software ones after every other device I own is software. I hate that apps will adapt to hardware keys and require you to hit the capacitive menu key instead of including the menu button in app. This leaves me searching for a menu key. The tablet is also really laggy. Like really really laggy. Overall I prefer everything about the OG one except the screen, which was horrendous enough to make me put up with this one's shortcomings.