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[Q] Dock problems/questions

I got the dock this afternoon and it worked great. After about an hour of use I got prompted for an update. I installed it, and the tablet rebooted. I went to move the cursor, only to see that it wasn't there. Disconnected and reconnected the tablet and got nothing. Rebooted, nothing.
I tried doing a factory reset, and went back to .9 (from .13). Still nothing.
If I connect the tablet to the dock and plug it into my computer, it's still getting recognized. So I know there is at least some form of communication going through it.
Is there any way to reset the dock or something? Can I tell if it's charging? With the dock plugged into the wall, and the tablet connected there's no lightening bolt in the battery icon (there is if I just plug it straight into the tablet). It also appears that the battery is still going down with it plugged into the dock and the dock plugged into the wall.
Anyone have some suggestions? I'm going on vacation next week and really want to take this with me

You tried everything but the most obvious. Try pressing the touchpad on/off button... 4th button along from the top left on the keyboard dock.

stuntdouble said:
You tried everything but the most obvious. Try pressing the touchpad on/off button... 4th button along from the top left on the keyboard dock.
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Guess I should have worded it better.
The dock doesn't connect to the tablet at all. There's no notification down by the clock. Hitting any button on the keyboard does absolutely nothing.

Also, I can confirm that it's not being charged. For the last hour, the tablet has been in the dock and plugged into the wall. The battery has only gone down.

What happens when you just plug the charger into the dock part, without the tablet connected? Does the little led near the adapter port come on at all?

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What happens when you just plug the charger into the dock part, without the tablet connected? Does the little led near the adapter port come on at all?
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I see nothing with it plugged into the wall or the computer

I just installed Prime 1.3 which has the optional dock firmware. From what I read, it's supposed to prompt me to install it when the tablet is docked. It doesn't...

Sounds like you have a bricked dock then if no power light at all. It happened to a few people after the update. They had to RMA theirs. If you want more details on that you'll have to use search.

stuntdouble said:
Sounds like you have a bricked dock then if no power light at all. It happened to a few people after the update. They had to RMA theirs. If you want more details on that you'll have to use search.
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Yea, awesome. Returning it through Amazon right now. Shame...definitely won't have one before I leave next week.

Navalhawkeye, I had similar issue after updating keyboard. Is there a question mark on battery icon?

When connected to the dock? No. It just shows the normal non-charging icon.

Sounds like yours is even worse than mine..
I can still use the keyboard and trackpad - it still charges my tablet when connected - but the dock battery itself refuses to charge now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080137
You'd THINK there'd be some sort of 'reset to factory' keypress on the dock - or some way to reset it and its FW, but I haven't found anything.

fu utility
after looking into the fu utility that located in /system/bin/fu, it seems that after the firmware update, there is a service that updates the keyboard if a certain condition is met.
The command to initiate such update is:
Code:
/system/bin/fu -c /system/etc/EC/FU.cfg -d /system/etc/EC/FU-d.cfg /system/etc/EC/TF101-EC-0209.rom
I'm not sure its possible to run this command in unrooted device, so you'll probably need root.
Can someone verify this?

I got the red light come up . n the dock do not charge at all ( alway 0%)....
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khoabui said:
I got the red light come up . n the dock do not charge at all ( alway 0%)....
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Solid or blinking?

Blinking sir!
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ME TOO i have same problem

B50 Tablet B50 keyboard dock.
Opened them both yesterday, updated firmware on both.
OP's #6 is true in my case. The checking and unchecking does nothing for me.
The keyboard dock does not charge at all either.

mmscuba8 said:
Navalhawkeye, I had similar issue after updating keyboard. Is there a question mark on battery icon?
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I had a question mark on battery icon and dock was not being recognized, did not work, but it did charge. How did you solve your issue? I had to send both, tablet and dock in. Got my tablet back today, but dock is still with Asus...

brooklynite said:
B50 Tablet B50 keyboard dock.
Opened them both yesterday, updated firmware on both.
OP's #6 is true in my case. The checking and unchecking does nothing for me.
The keyboard dock does not charge at all either.
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So replying to my own post....
I exchanged the keyboard at Bestbuy. The new one is also a B50 but the serial number is higher. This one does charge up to 100%. BUT touching any key will turn on the device (even when the new power saving option is checked) and it does drain the battery. With the combo off battery went down 6% in 4 hours.
Playing a 720p HD movie using MOBO player and lowest brightness takes about 20% of the battery every hour and it only uses power from the dock until it dies I think because tablet stayed at 100%.
I tested the combo for battery usage and here are the results:
Time Dock Battery Tablet Battery
5:00pm 56% 98%
Wifi Off, Screen Off
9:00pm 50% 98% (6% dock used in 4 hours of sleep)
Wifi On, Screen Off
11:00pm 46% 98% (4% dock used in 2 hours of sleep with WIFI on)
Wifi On, Screen On, Played 1.5 hour 720p HD movie using MOBOPlayer and went to bed and let it sleep 1min after inactivity (default)
9:00am 03% 93% (46% dock and 5% tablet used in 1.5hours of movie playing and 8.5 hours of sleep with with WIFI on)

TF starts when pluging in powercord

I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?

Mine does that as well. I may be wrong ,but i think it charges faster when its turned off, so i often turn it off then plug it in. I need to get into the habit of plugging it in , and then turning it off, I guess.

nexxexium said:
I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?
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It appears to be normal behavior.I know about 5 people with TFs and mine. All turn on when you plug the charger...
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nexxexium said:
I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?
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You can't see if AT is fully charged without see the screen so... that's completely normal, dock has a led that tablet hasn't...

-you choose to shut your tablet down
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
then they should also put a small light on the tablet. my god i'm starting to regret my purchase.
if this is by design then they are completely retarded at asus

Annoying... yes... big deal... no.
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How is this annoying in any way? It's not like it'll charge a significant amount slower with the screen off, and with the screen off there isn't a single way to see it's on if you're 12 and won't want your parents to find out it's turned on after bed time.
You people will ***** about ANYTHING.

My iPhone and the iPad did the same thing,
Plug the power cord in and then shut down, this way it will remain off..

nexxexium said:
-you choose to shut your tablet down
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
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So do this instead (still 3 steps):
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
-you shut your tablet down
Better?

i ***** if i feel like it
Its one extra annoying thing. (Like you cant connect to hidden wifi)
These things are designed by a retard.

I don't know whether there is a technical reason for the power on so I will abstain from judging it to be a mental impairment...

nexxexium said:
Like you cant connect to hidden wifi
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Woah, really?
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nexxexium said:
i ***** if i feel like it
Its one extra annoying thing. (Like you cant connect to hidden wifi)
These things are designed by a retard.
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I have 2 waps and both are hidden. I can connect to both.

nexxexium said:
Like you cant connect to hidden wifi
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Not true. My work wifi SSID isn't broadcasted and I was able to add it to my list and connect easily.
As for the original question...every Android and iDevice I've seen exhibit this behavior.
Maybe you could direct your anger and energy towards the failing economy and make some progress there?

so to reverse only one step (plug then switch off) is for genius

Tigrev said:
So do this instead (still 3 steps):
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
-you shut your tablet down
Better?
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No, it's one step too many. If I run the battery down on my tablet (which I do fairly frequently), then want it to charge as quickly as possible, I shouldn't have to power it back down every time to achieve that.
I'd like to see this behavior changed, and I'm glad to find I'm not the only one irritated by it.
Don't get me wrong -- love the tab, and own two. That doesn't mean there's no room for improvement, though. There's no logical reason to have the tab turn on instantly on charging. (Seeing the charge level doesn't count as a logical reason, because if you're worried about the charge level, you likely don't want to reduce the charging speed to find out the answer -- you likely want it charging as fast as possible until you're ready to leave the charging point.)
I would guess the behavior likely hails from phones, where it actually makes sense. With a phone, you want it active to receive calls all the time, and so starting when you plug it in is logical. With a tablet, it's simply not. Just something Google forgot to correct in Honeycomb, is my guess.

nexxexium said:
These things are designed by a retard.
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And, apparently, operated by the retarded.
Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> Add WiFi Network.

knoxploration said:
No, it's one step too many. If I run the battery down on my tablet (which I do fairly frequently), then want it to charge as quickly as possible, I shouldn't have to power it back down every time to achieve that.
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Well OK, then skip the last step. The display will go right back off by itself within the screen timeout. No big deal. My timeout is set to 2 minutes, so I'd estimate that might add a minute or so to the net charging time, worst case.
Can we consider this a thoroughly dead horse?

Tigrev said:
Well OK, then skip the last step. The display will go right back off by itself within the screen timeout. No big deal. My timeout is set to 2 minutes, so I'd estimate that might add a minute or so to the net charging time, worst case.
Can we consider this a thoroughly dead horse?
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No, we can't. The display powering off doesn't power off the tablet. It still runs, and hence still charges slower than it should be. With the tablet running (even with the display off), it charges significantly more slowly, as evidenced by the battery graph which gives a clear indication of charge rate.
And from my experience, it occasionally doesn't charge at *all* when running, even when using the factory charger and factory charging cable. (Not sure why, but it's happened a couple of times, and powering off starts it charging.) That glitch makes it even more important that it doesn't start up when plugged in to charge.

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No, we can't. The display powering off doesn't power off the tablet. It still runs, and hence still charges slower than it should be. With the tablet running (even with the display off), it charges significantly more slowly, as evidenced by the battery graph which gives a clear indication of charge rate.
And from my experience, it occasionally doesn't charge at *all* when running, even when using the factory charger and factory charging cable. (Not sure why, but it's happened a couple of times, and powering off starts it charging.) That glitch makes it even more important that it doesn't start up when plugged in to charge.
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All you did was ***** before you got your TF, now you have it and all you do is still *****. You are everything that's bad about the world.
Because people seem to have their panties in a bunch over this one I checked charging rate powered off vs turned on, and it's only 2% less per hour. That's an insignificantly small difference.
I said it before and I'll say it again, you guys will ***** about ANYTHING.
EDIT: The 2% was measured including the extra battery drain I get from starting up the tablet to check battery level every hour.

Tab 10.1 Won't on or charge or detect on computer

My TAB 10.1 wont turn on, charge or connect with the computer (NOT even APX) , I have already tried a number of different ways to try to get it to load up but so far nothing has worked. I would send it back to Samsung (again) but they wont accept it because my TAB is from the USA and i received it as a gift,
Can people please get back to me with suggestions, thanks

First thing you need to do is "Chill"
1. Use the WALL CHARGER to charge your TAB for at least 2hrs - Don't touch it!
2. If its NOT turning ON yet, then PUSH the POWER button for 10 seconds - while its STILL on the Charger!
You should get it running, if the Hardware is NOT defective.
Just a thought!

Willy318is said:
First thing you need to do is "Chill"
1. Use the WALL CHARGER to charge your TAB for at least 2hrs - Don't touch it!
2. If its NOT turning ON yet, then PUSH the POWER button for 10 seconds - while its STILL on the Charger!
You should get it running, if the Hardware is NOT defective.
Just a thought!
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already tried everything including your method, still nothing.. do you know any possible way to get it to apx at least?

Would love to help you but can't think of anything else!
and what is APX? its weird that I have never heard this before

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it will charge from a USB connection, only from the wall adapter.

ProximaC said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it will charge from a USB connection, only from the wall adapter.
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Yes it can if your tab is off and it is a much slower charge
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Didn't really read the above, but here's my input:
Run the USB Charging Script (assuming you're rooted) via Script Manager.
Check "Run as Root" (the Android icon) and "Run at Boot" (the Gear Cog icon) in the Script Manager Menu. Hit "Save," then go ahead and run. Reboot, and it should work.
My P7510 is charging right now from my desktop.

[Q] Flickering battery and Dock.....help please

so first and foremost, i did some searching, but I will not act as if I dug around the ENTIRE forum, so apologies in advance if I over looked/didnt find the needed help I am about to ask for.
That said.....we got my son a nexus 7 a while back and it is perfect....none of the issues some users have it has just been great......then my son screwed up the charging port by forcing his charger into in...yes he was given a stern talking to and a tutorial on how to properly charge electronics...no worries though I'll order him the dock.
Got the dock and now the Nexus 7 just screen flickers......
so to recap:
1)cant charge via port
2)dock causes Nexus to just screen flicker
what I've tried:
1)it sat on the dock for 24 hours - no dice
2) held power button down for 60 secs - no dice
3) tried every combination of Vol +/- & Power possible (for up to 60 secs) - there is a pattern developing
4)removed back and did a batt unplug/replug and then repeated the above 3 things - still no dice
(oh and yes I tried 1-3 both while it was docked and undocked)
I'm sure that it doesn't help that I cant be wired.....so I ask you the wonderful community.....any thoughts?
also it is a stock never rooted nexus 7.
Thank you in advance!!

I think if the dock port is okay than your son shorted the USB when forced the port. Now it's not charging because of shorted circuit. What you can do is to change the USB port or just remove it and use the dock.

It sounds like a short. The display flickers while on the dock, but is it able to charge at least?

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It sounds like a short. The display flickers while on the dock, but is it able to charge at least?
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It is able to charge.....I was able to fix it with really just some old fashion patience. I unplugged the batt again overnight and plugged it back in in the morning, and now it works like a charm.....
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I have ordered a new port to solder on, but to be frank, I dont think I'll do it unless i have too.

Nexus 7 won't turn on

My wife's Nexus 7 suddenly won't turn on... It still had juice when she went to charge it, but the next day found it was totally dead.
I've tried different chargers, tried to get to the bootloader, opened it and unplugged the battery, hooked it up via USB to my computer, etc and nothing will get this thing to power on.
Any ideas?

Bozz5384 said:
My wife's Nexus 7 suddenly won't turn on... It still had juice when she went to charge it, but the next day found it was totally dead.
I've tried different chargers, tried to get to the bootloader, opened it and unplugged the battery, hooked it up via USB to my computer, etc and nothing will get this thing to power on.
Any ideas?
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I mean, how long did you leave it on AC power? I know when I drain mine since coming to KitKat, it takes as long as a half an hour to respond again.

kcipopnevets said:
I mean, how long did you leave it on AC power? I know when I drain mine since coming to KitKat, it takes as long as a half an hour to respond again.
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Sorry, it spent more than a day on the charger. Still nothing, cannot get it to respond at all.

Bozz5384 said:
Sorry, it spent more than a day on the charger. Still nothing, cannot get it to respond at all.
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If you haven't already, try holding the power button for a while until *hopefully* the Google splash appears.
A good way to tell if the device is accepting a current is by using a charger that can verify this somehow, like with an embedded LED. One like this: http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/rapid-wall-charger-with-6-ft-cable-for-micro-usb/
I used this for my HTC Rezound when it still worked to make sure it was taking a charge because it would report it was charging in the OS but the charger module itself reported otherwise (the red Verizon ring didn't illuminate unless the charger was positioned a certain way in the device thus this was the only way I could supply it a charge and not hope it wasn't dead in the morning). When my Nexus 7 is drained, it draws enough voltage to get the charger to illuminate so maybe try one of these to really make sure it's still responding.
For the meanwhile, if you do decide to buy one, what was the last thing you/your wife had done? Was there root access?

U need press power for 2 min and need to be pluget into wall
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kcipopnevets said:
If you haven't already, try holding the power button for a while until *hopefully* the Google splash appears.
A good way to tell if the device is accepting a current is by using a charger that can verify this somehow, like with an embedded LED. One like this: http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/rapid-wall-charger-with-6-ft-cable-for-micro-usb/
I used this for my HTC Rezound when it still worked to make sure it was taking a charge because it would report it was charging in the OS but the charger module itself reported otherwise (the red Verizon ring didn't illuminate unless the charger was positioned a certain way in the device thus this was the only way I could supply it a charge and not hope it wasn't dead in the morning). When my Nexus 7 is drained, it draws enough voltage to get the charger to illuminate so maybe try one of these to really make sure it's still responding.
For the meanwhile, if you do decide to buy one, what was the last thing you/your wife had done? Was there root access?
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Interesting about the charger -- don't think I have one that does that. Maybe I'll see if my VZW store has one, not sure yet.
She had just used her tablet as normal, and plugged it in like she does every other day or so -- the next morning grabbed it and went to work only to find out that it was dead. IE: not turning on.
- No root access (totally stock)
- I've tried holding the power button for up to 2 mins. - nothing
- Even tried holding the down volume and power for up to 2 mins. together - nothing
- Removed the back and unplugged the battery (plug was really tight) and left it undone for 5 mins and reconnected - nothing
- When plugging in to a USB on the computer, the computer dings like I connected something but - nothing
Perhaps I'll take it apart again and see if I can get a voltage reading on the battery with my multimeter... didn't do that before, but would be good to know if it is charged and not turning on or what.

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Interesting about the charger -- don't think I have one that does that. Maybe I'll see if my VZW store has one, not sure yet.
She had just used her tablet as normal, and plugged it in like she does every other day or so -- the next morning grabbed it and went to work only to find out that it was dead. IE: not turning on.
- No root access (totally stock)
- I've tried holding the power button for up to 2 mins. - nothing
- Even tried holding the down volume and power for up to 2 mins. together - nothing
- Removed the back and unplugged the battery (plug was really tight) and left it undone for 5 mins and reconnected - nothing
- When plugging in to a USB on the computer, the computer dings like I connected something but - nothing
Perhaps I'll take it apart again and see if I can get a voltage reading on the battery with my multimeter... didn't do that before, but would be good to know if it is charged and not turning on or what.
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Remove the back cover, locate the plug to the battery, disconnect plug by sliding from right to left, then replug. Should be fine after that.

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Remove the back cover, locate the plug to the battery, disconnect plug by sliding from right to left, then replug. Should be fine after that.
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Thanks but I already did that. Nothing changed. If I don't get it going soon I'll be forced to buy something else as she is getting impatient.

I have the same issue.
I bought a refurbish one and it was working great for 2 days and yesterday when I tried to open it, it won't turn on anymore and I was able to browse on it 5 min before.
I tried everything but I cannot find any solution...
When I plug into a wall I cannot see the charging icon and when I plug it into my computer it will do the noise that a device is plug but nothing happen... I wonder if its the battery that is crap

pacostrano said:
I have the same issue.
I bought a refurbish one and it was working great for 2 days and yesterday when I tried to open it, it won't turn on anymore and I was able to browse on it 5 min before.
I tried everything but I cannot find any solution...
When I plug into a wall I cannot see the charging icon and when I plug it into my computer it will do the noise that a device is plug but nothing happen... I wonder if its the battery that is crap
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I own 3 of these N7 tablets and this has been the number one issue. Sent one for repair when it was under warranty. The supplied Nexus wall charger burn out quick, and aftermarket cables last only 3 months. I've had better results using the Samsung wall charger and cable.

OP, it sounds like your wife's N7 is in APX mode. Connect it to your PC via a USB cable, and open Control Panel's devices and printers panel. If it sees an APX device, and you didn't make NVFlash blobs, your only recourse is a motherboard replacement.

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OP, it sounds like your wife's N7 is in APX mode. Connect it to your PC via a USB cable, and open Control Panel's devices and printers panel. If it sees an APX device, and you didn't make NVFlash blobs, your only recourse is a motherboard replacement.
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Well, that sounds interesting. Tell me more about the APX device thing. I didn't quite understand.

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Me0211 said:
Well, that sounds interesting. Tell me more about the APX device thing. I didn't quite understand.
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I just got my new N7 32gb GSM 2012 in the mail today. Won't turn on at all. I'm not going to bother. Going to return it. Quite disappointed, as I didnt realized this issue (apparently with the battery) was so common. Was looking forward to flashing cyanogenmod. Poop. Might just get a samsung tab now, which I think is quite overpriced for its specs.

horsegold said:
I just got my new N7 32gb GSM 2012 in the mail today. Won't turn on at all. I'm not going to bother. Going to return it. Quite disappointed, as I didnt realized this issue (apparently with the battery) was so common. Was looking forward to flashing cyanogenmod. Poop. Might just get a samsung tab now, which I think is quite overpriced for its specs.
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If you're seriously looking for something other than an N7 then I'd suggest you look at the LG G-Pad.
I bought one for my Dad at Christmas and was amazed by how good the screen is, and the tablet generally, for the price. The LG skin is minimal and can be changed obviously with another launcher, and the battery life is better than my N7.