GPS is getting on my nerves - Desire HD General

Hi all,
Had a DHD since it's release date, swapped it for another one because my first one had the horrible gap at the top which allows dust to come onto the screen, second one was cool, however since i've had it i've never had a good track record with the GPS, it's just a **** feature which over promises and under delivers, even when the phone was stock it was crap.
I've flashed numerous radios onto it and i've tried all the programs which promise the earth and don't deliver, I don't want to use a network connection either otherwise what would be the point ?
I went to the south of spain last week and it worked for a little bit and then ceased to, it's a complete ball ache because now i can't even get one satellite.
I'm presently on Core Droid 6.8 using Radio 12.54.60.25P_26.09.04.11_M2
With it's matching RIL package, just doesn't want to work, seriously pissed off with this and i want to just kick it in the bin now.
Any help would be good, i've rooted with all security features off.
I even tried the fix posted about the metal contacts by the flash with no success (i didn't break them either).
Cheers.

I got that problem too.
With my Desire HD it helps to do a fastreboot with the app "Fast Reboot" from the Android Market. Just run it. After that, I go into FasterFix, another app. There you can set a optimised server, mine is "Germany". Then click on go.
And finally after this I go into the app "GPS Status". Activate you Gps, click on the Menubutton -> tools -> A-GPS. First click on reset, then Menubutton -> tools -> A-GPS -> download. You'll need a wifi connection for this-
After those steps my gps locks in a few seconds. I also don't know if you have to do this after each flash, maybe you'll just need one app or something.
I hoped I could help you!

Hi, I appreciate the response but I'm afraid I've done all that before and it doesn't work, I've now contacted my phone provider and im getting a new phone tomorrow, just need to get back to stock now.

I hope you know how to unroot and restore your phone? Check this

I agree with the above Faster Fix app resolved the GPS issue for me.
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Telus fascinate gps no working

Hi,
gps has sucked on this phone since the beginning, but I thought update to 2.2 would fix it. Sadly it still does not work. And I don't mean it takes long for a lock or the accuracy is bad. It just has no idea where I am. Some gps status app I downloaded does not show any satillites.
I think I should go back and get a new one, or is gps broken for everyone?
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Mine takes a fair bit of time to get a lock but i do get a very accurate signal onece it locks, it was very slow on 2.1 maybe a bit faster now on 2.2 but still realy sucks coming from my htc tp2 which got locks everytime within 5-10 seconds. If i try to get a fix when inside my house it will never happen, I have to be outside in clear view of the sky. I would say take it back it might be broken.
My phone also takes awhile to get a lock on Maps and such. I need to be outside and it usually takes around 5 -10 Minutes. when I do get a lock it is very accurate. I haven't upgraded to 2.2 yet so I'm not sure how it will work on that (hopefully better).
I would go into Telus and see if you can get it repaired/replaced
I had my GPS working like a charm with 2.1 and it all went to **** when I upgraded to 2.2.
Re-applying these settings fixed the locking issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732030
I now get a lock in under 30 seconds.
gps lock? what is that? (im sarcastic) but really, my telus fascinate running froyo never had any lock.
1 time while driving i had it on for fun, it had me perhaps within 10-15 blocks, and then it put me in the middle of the ocean.
ill try the link above to see if it helps.
daoom said:
I had my GPS working like a charm with 2.1 and it all went to **** when I upgraded to 2.2.
Re-applying these settings fixed the locking issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732030
I now get a lock in under 30 seconds.
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I tried to do this but as soon as I type the last * on the code in my dialer it dissapears and nothing happens, are there any tricks? Does it matter that im rooted?
Edit: for anyone else having the issue i did if you have launcher pro Create a shortcut - activity - LBSTESTMODE or get LbsTestModeLaunch from the market.
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madizmo said:
I tried to do this but as soon as I type the last * on the code in my dialer it dissapears and nothing happens, are there any tricks? Does it matter that im rooted?
Edit: for anyone else having the issue i did if you have launcher pro Create a shortcut - activity - LBSTESTMODE or get LbsTestModeLaunch from the market.
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You probably didn't type it in right. You could try something like SGSTools from the market; it has lblTestMode in its list of "secret codes".
Try turning on your wireless.
So I went to Telus to get my phone replaced, and after about an hour of discussion they agreed to help me out. It was just over the 30 day exchange period, so they wanted me to give them my fascinate and $150 deposit for 4-6 weeks and give me a loaner feature phone. Crazy policy, but at least I was able to reason with them in the end.
GPS now works again, but it still takes a couple minutes to lock. On my old Acer Liquid E it takes 5 seconds. Both have Skyhook disabled. I'm really disappointed in Samsung. My next phone will probably be an HTC.
I'll upgrade to 2.2 when I get home, and see if that helps.
made a quick video showing the differences in GPS speed of my old phone, and my new phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m21JdjYdxLs
takes 5+ minutes to see the first satellite
a2000rick said:
made a quick video showing the differences in GPS speed of my old phone, and my new phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m21JdjYdxLs
takes 5+ minutes to see the first satellite
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How much better/faster is it when you are outdoors since the test in that vid appears to be indoors?...
For folks having trouble, please try this. The file expires, so it must be done often, but if I can gauge a decent amount of success with it, I will get an app built for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896222
If it does not work, can someone please post the contents of this file for me?
/system/etc/gps.conf
How much better/faster is it when you are outdoors since the test in that vid appears to be indoors?...
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no difference. I was by a window.
Just drove for about 30 min and it couldn't get a lock the whole trip. (I had the sun roof open even ... and it was cold)
This phone is just pathetic, but I don't know what to change to. I got it thinking it was the best android phone available...
You can complain how crappy the phone is, or take a proactive approach to fixing it. Did you even try my post above?
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Also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10291253&postcount=10
adrynalyne said:
You can complain how crappy the phone is, or take a proactive approach to fixing it. Did you even try my post above?
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Also, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10291253&postcount=10
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Ya I'm gonna try that later, but it requires root access and voiding my warranty. If a software fix is possible why wouldn't samsung release it? Do they want their phones to suck? Or maybe they fired all of their engineers because of the bad economy.
But ya, if Samsung doesn't release an update in the next month I'll see what the community can do.

GPS Issues still...

When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
Did you update the radio?
My gps work great. Even the voice is much better.
SC 2.4
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heric1 said:
When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
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Uh. What issues are you even having? Although I do have some minor issues also. It connects perfect but every few minutes it drop GPS signal for about a minute and then picks it back upnot sure when this happened or how long or what version it started on as I barely ever use it.
dalrym05 said:
Uh. What issues are you even having? Although I do have some minor issues also. It connects perfect but every few minutes it drop GPS signal for about a minute and then picks it back upnot sure when this happened or how long or what version it started on as I barely ever use it.
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I can never get a lock on my location, even after letting it sit for several minutes. It is always in the right area but off with a massive blue circle.
heric1 said:
When I made the switch to android one of the things I was most excited for was google maps and free turn-by-turn. I have tried everything to make this happen on my Fascinate. I upgraded to 2.2 and even tried the GPS Aids app. So my question to you guys is will the GPS ever work properly on this device or is there any other tricks I can try?
Thanks!
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Did you go into setting>>loc&security and make sure both vzw and google location services box's are checked?
I did this and my GPS finds me immediately now (runninig froyo 2.2, sc 2.6 w/voodoo)
chargerfn909 said:
Did you go into setting>>loc&security and make sure both vzw and google location services box's are checked?
I did this and my GPS finds me immediately now (runninig froyo 2.2, sc 2.6 w/voodoo)
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He's got at least VZW location services on due to the massive blue circle, which uses cellular triangulation. Wifi can get you a smaller circle, but doesn't work as well as GPS.
My phone has been totally unable to get a GPS lock for quite a while (since upgrading to EB01 based roms, but even on DI01 and DJ05 it was incredibly pathetic), even with updating the A-GPS data and having VZW & Google location services on.
I have tried all suggested issues. Do you think it is a hardware issue with my phone and I should trade it in or am I still missing something?
Sounds like you might have bad hardware. Since EB01 I just recently realized I didn't even need to have vzw or google locations checked. I get a lock just using stand alone service. 8/11 birdies locked in 18sec with an error of 13ft inside my house with GPS Status. And that was after a full wipe and rom flash.
good day.
Since EB01 happened I've had a near instant lock every single time.
I had the exact same prob. My gps problems have been completely intermittent, sometimes it would lock on and other times it would not. No matter what rom or radio I flash. But this is what seems to work pretty well.
1. Don't use the gps toggle button on the pulldown. Use the settings.
2. Use google maps v4.7 and don't let it update.
Hope this helps...
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I've been using the option from the pull down menu with mixed results.
I've started going into the location & security and enabling/disabling gps from their with much much better results.
Thanks for that tip .
With SC 2.4 ROM GPS was working GREAT!!
I updated to SC 2.6 and I cannot get a lock at all.
With Wi-Fi on the best i can do is get my location and the directions. I can only guess that maybe the clock was changed / tweeked in the later versions.
When I get time I will be rolling back to SC 2.4 ROM.
I have determined it is not a hardware issue as someone else in my area is experiencing the same issues. I updated to EB01 and super clean 2.6. My lock is about 50% now. Either the service is great and locks right on or doesn't at all with the massive blue haze. Someone suggested going back to super clean 2.4?
Once again thanks for all the help guys!
cableguy1 said:
1. Don't use the gps toggle button on the pulldown. Use the settings.
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this is the key. and one of the main reasons I went back to DL09 on my phone until the next build comes out.
if you turn it on in settings-->location&security it will work, and then you can turn it off/on via the notification bar for a while, until you reboot your phone...
Is it google navigation having the issue?
I continue to play around with this issue, and am noticing people talking about still being able to be picked up through GPS tools, but not get locked elsewhere. I am assuming that, like me, they are referring to google navigator giving the message "Searching for GPS". Oddly enough, Google latitude is accurately showing my location even when google navigator is telling me it is "Searching for GPS" and drops my turn by turn instructions. I saw one post from cableguy1 to use google maps 4.7 and disable updates, which I would be interested in trying. Anyone know where I can get v4.7?
*Never mind. Didn't pay attention to the fact that my Wifi was on, and the location was a couple houses off. It simply looked precise in comparison to the big blue circle I'd seen while driving. Sorry for the misinformation.*
SC2.4 doesn't have any locking issues for my wife. Good to go there, but not sure if we're just lucky.
2.4 working well
After finding a couple other threads addressing GPS issues, I've noticed people with sc2.4 to have the least problems. Flashed the AIO Odin version, and have had an instant lock so far all morning. Very nice to have google navigaion back

GPS fix CM7 DHD

After endless searching for the gps solution i've found a solution.
I've tested it and can confirm it works.
All credits go to the developer of faster fix (Bernard Bekker)
So here are the steps:
1. Download the CM7 rom ( I'm currently running the built #15 nightly)
link:http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=ace
2. After installing the rom and gapps set it up as you normally would.
3. Download Fast Reboot from the market (and install it).
4. After installing the Fast Reboot, download Faster Fix from the market (and install it).
5. Now turn off the gps (not in the notification bar, but in settings).
menu/settings/location
6. Run Fast Reboot
7. Run Faster Fix, and select your country and hit Go
A pop up should say: for example "Done set to:nl.pool.ntp.org" as I live in the Netherlands.
8. Turn on your GPS and reboot.
Now when you use the Google Navigation you should have a fast and steady fix for your GPS.
This won't work if you turn off GPS and on again.
In this case you have to reboot your phone!!! Remember to turn on the GPS bevore you reboot your phone!
It is not nessesery to repeat steps 1 to 7, just 8.
Just tried this and got instant GPS lock when I walked outside of my office. THanks for posting this.
Seems to work. Thanks for the information.
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really thannnnnnnx..
though i seldom use the gps in case it would cost lots of battery,thanks very much for posting this ~
btw,i am a chinese.i am now a sophomore in english major,cosidering to pursue a further study abroad,i wonder if netherland is a good place for studying business.
do u have any suggestions?
thanks in advance~
Also worked on my desire z.
cmy1991110 said:
really thannnnnnnx..
though i seldom use the gps in case it would cost lots of battery,thanks very much for posting this ~
btw,i am a chinese.i am now a sophomore in english major,cosidering to pursue a further study abroad,i wonder if netherland is a good place for studying business.
do u have any suggestions?
thanks in advance~
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email me your interest for wich study you would like to follow.... many people from abroud come to study here
[email protected]
Maybe I am doing something wrong but I just followed these instructions and when I rebooted the phone froze on the splash screen. Had to recover and flash my nand. Have you heard of this problem?
No, i never had this problem, mostly if you make a lot of changes, reboot in to recovery and flash a .zip and than reboot, you might end up with a bootloop in the splash screen.
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Just to inform you guys, if you are using a gel case on your Desire HD, it's going to have a noticeable impact on the GPS lock time, from two minutes down to only several seconds.
I have confirmed this with my Case-Mate Gelli, and there is also a video by someone else on YouTube showing this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUyhxm2NtDU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Faster Fix will still help with the lock time in both cases, so thanks to the original poster.
Unfortunately, it didn't work for me. I have an HTC Desire CDMA from USCC with CM7 RC4 running.
?permanent fix
It worked but is it a permanent fix or every time you want to you GPS do u have to turn it on then reboot to get it working again? Thanks
Evo4g / Sprint, worked pefect (saved me from a lot of reflashing)!
Tnx
I still find the GPS to be very poor on my DHD. updated the radio, applied this fix and it still takes a long time to lock, even when outside. Its almost as if agps isn't working at all.
Just a thing to test
Menu>settings>applications>development
Make sure "Allow mock locations" isn't checked
I suffered with terrible GPS reception for weeks until I noticed this was checked. Now I get on average 3-7 yards accuracy, fixing in about 3 seconds
Also didnt work for me. Have flashed a few different Radios and ROM's, does anyone know a highly recommended Radio for CM7 and gps? (preferably on UK Orange if that matters / makes a difference to gps).
AverageCanadian said:
I still find the GPS to be very poor on my DHD. updated the radio, applied this fix and it still takes a long time to lock, even when outside. Its almost as if agps isn't working at all.
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have you updated the RIL that applys to your radio?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
also have you installed gps status from the market?
go into tools and reset the data
both those worked for me
Worked well for me! Got an instant lock in my house after doing it. Used to take about 2 minutes outside. Cheers
Hello!
What is in the gapps file and how do you install them?
Is it possible to use them with another rom or is they locket to CM7HD?
For the moment I am on RCmixHD.
Regards
So we can use RIL on CM7?? Wasn't there some problems??
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goofylad said:
have you updated the RIL that applys to your radio?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986
also have you installed gps status from the market?
go into tools and reset the data
both those worked for me
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This thread clearly says in the OP "not for CM." I don't know anything about RIL so maybe it will work, I just don't want to see someone have issues.

[Q] Evo Shift keeps rebooting

Looking for some advice/help. I got my wife the Evo Shift a couple of weeks ago. Her phone has not been rooted and other than a few added apps the phone is completely stock. The phone reboots on her 4 and 5 times a day. She does not have any kind of task killer installed so that's not it. She plays Angry Birds a lot and uses Pandora quite a bit. I have also installed Sound Manager for her. Other than that I can't think of anything that would be helpful for trouble shooting. I have searched here and through Google and have not seen any info of others having this problem. I am not sure if I should root the thing or return it to best buy. I have the Evo and previously the Hero and am no stranger to rooting or custom ROMs. Just really did not see the need to root it since my wife has no idea about any of that. Any help or advice will be appreciated.
Thanks.
root and install nfinitefx's or mik's rom; you'll have less trouble than if it was stock.
danaff37 said:
root and install nfinitefx's or mik's rom; you'll have less trouble than if it was stock.
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That's what I was thinking. I am a little worried its a hardware problem though. I guess I could always flash back to stock and return it if that doesn't fix it.
hell return it ya got nothing to lose but a headache
Did you try a factory reset?
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JKILO said:
Did you try a factory reset?
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Not yet. I did get some more info from my wife though. It only happens when she is at work. And she says she get some sort of "radio error". I'm starting to think it might have something to do with the building she is in. She had my hero for a couple months before I got her the shift and had no problems. It had CM 6.1 running though.
hauntedchild said:
Not yet. I did get some more info from my wife though. It only happens when she is at work. And she says she get some sort of "radio error". I'm starting to think it might have something to do with the building she is in. She had my hero for a couple months before I got her the shift and had no problems. It had CM 6.1 running though.
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im running mine stock and rooted and dont have any problems with reboots. sounds like a app is probably screwing something up
i had a similar problem with one of the streaming media apps i used to use a month or so ago i cant remember the name but for some reason if i lost signal it would crash the phone and need to be rebooted
i took it off and installed tuneinradio and it worked better anyways
My shift was rebooting itself 3 to 4 times a day, I just rooted it and it seemed to stop rebooting itself for a day. Now its starting to reboot itself again, but not as often.
I am almost convinced its a hardware problem. Sounds too rare to be anything else. Maybe bad memory or something.
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I had a freezing issue with my phone which people suggested possible due to pandora and bluetooth. Perhaps you have the same issue?
Anyway, try to find "bluetooth for automotive" settings for pandora and turn it off.
I wouldn't recommend rooting your phone if you think its broken. You might just end up breaking it further and render your warranty void.
If you can't fix it, get sprint to replace it.
i dont need a signature
This may be resolved by now, but I got my shift previously used. When I first activated it, I was getting some radio errors and I could not make calls or send sms messages, but the email worked fine. I contacted Sprint customer service via chat from the website and they did something from their end to fix it. I had to turn off my phone and she said now wait till I tell you to turn it back on. I waited 5 minutes and when I turned it back on, everything was fine. So I would take it in or contact Sprint and see what they say. As for not sure if you wanna root it for her, I would definitely recommened it, she doesn't have to take advantage of all the advanced tweak that some use but it will just make the phone a lot smoother and easier to use. IMHO.
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Michael61182 said:
This may be resolved by now, but I got my shift previously used. When I first activated it, I was getting some radio errors and I could not make calls or send sms messages, but the email worked fine. I contacted Sprint customer service via chat from the website and they did something from their end to fix it. I had to turn off my phone and she said now wait till I tell you to turn it back on. I waited 5 minutes and when I turned it back on, everything was fine. So I would take it in or contact Sprint and see what they say. As for not sure if you wanna root it for her, I would definitely recommened it, she doesn't have to take advantage of all the advanced tweak that some use but it will just make the phone a lot smoother and easier to use. IMHO.
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Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to go ahead and root it. After keeping an eye on the situation its seems its only happening when she is at work. I can't imagine it will fix it but I think its worth a shot.
I think I fixed mine. I tried to use navigation and it kept force closing, that was strange because I've used it before with no problems. I googled around and found some info that if you had another text to speak engine in your phone then uninstalled it without setting it back to pico as default it would cause nav to FC, which is what I had done. So I set it back and checked "Always use my settings" in the Voice section of settings, nav started working and the reboot issue went away for the past 7 days.
I don't really know crap about phones and most tech stuff for that matter (heck 99% of what is said in these forums goes over my head) but I think why this fixed it is either nav or some app was trying to use pico or something and when it couldn't the phone would get an error and reboot itself. I may be wrong (probably am) but maybe she deleted something or changed a setting some app needs and that is causing her problem. Hope this helps in someway or at least gives you another direction to start checking.

GPS taking too long to get my location

So i'm using google maps/Latitude on my Desire HD , and it take quite some time to pinpoint my exact GPS location, but its too often some kilometers away from where i am.
For example my house, its almost always showing that im way off from where i really are, so i started up my good old HD2 with WM 6.5, and it took the HD2 5 SECONDS to get a correct gps fix!?! why is my Desire HD struggling with this?
The HD2 also have something called Quick GPS where i can download satellites from the internett, i havent found anything like this on Android Marked.
So, is the HD2 simply better on GPS, or what?
i find this too before the update when my DHD was standard (think it was about 1.74) i had no problems with GPS since i got an OTA update from tmobile to 1.82 or 1.84 my GPS went to completely useless, have since modded the ROM, kernal, radio and RIL but still having intermittant problems, hoping that its resolved soon!,
i have tried GPS status and reseting my AGPS and redownloading but still nothing sometimes my lock is within 10secs sometime 10mins
yeah, sometimes (not often) it pinpoint my excact location at home, but usually it cannot! annoying, specially when i know the HD2 do not have this problem!
On Market download Fasterfix and GPS status. In fasterfix, select europe (or wherever you are) ntp pool, in gps status, hit Menu and go to Tools and select Manage A-GPS state, reset and download. Go outside with gps status open and you'll get fixes enjoy. btw desire hd sucks for gps in the house unless you're really close to a window.
that didnt help on the google location att all. the arrow in google maps is following me when i turn around, but still its off by 550meters (added my HD2 so i can see exact distance)
does wifi position you correctly on google maps?
Sorry, I'm using XDA app and can't see sigs. What ROM, network etc. are you using??
As a general rule, there is nothing wrong with the DHD for GPS. This will more than likely be a network customisation or ROM issue.
Downloading GPS Status app and using that to see how many satellites are detected is a good suggestion too.
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Try flashing a new radio, I use 26.08.03.07 and I get a fix in about 10 seconds...
uros0104 said:
Try flashing a new radio, I use 26.08.03.07 and I get a fix in about 10 seconds...
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Yes you're right but only if you're outside without any clouds and so on... I get fix faster with latest radios but not as fast as iphone.. The real solution is not to turn off GPS when it is fixed but then the battery will go off quickly because when we lock the phone the GPS stops searching.... Simply HTC should think better about it and solve this problem finally!
Using Revolution HD 3.6 with Radio_12.41.60.19_26.06.04.14_M
I'll try a new radio. today att work even outside with NO CLOUDS what so ever, it took a loooong time before i got a fix.
my mom got a Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc with Android 2.3.2 today, and it got the location spot on in a mather of seconds!
EDIT: Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test is now Flashed! i'll test it tomorrow!
New radio is working great!!! I now get gps lock within 10 seconds! How can it be such a big difference?
I think HTC changes somehow the algorithm for processing GPS signal. I flashed yesterday latest for GB radio and it is also big difference... So we can only guess why HTC need so much tries to make it good...
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I was a little fast on the trigger there!
It seems that i still have trouble, strange, becouse it worked like a charm earliger today, then i started to drive home from work, and suddenly now GPS lock att all!
So, new Radio again!
im now on Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 with Android Revolution HD 5.1.0 with Gingerbread. so gingerbread rom+radio.
i now got lock instant even inside. so i'll test it today and report back. seems promising so far.

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