hiya i have a desire hd and xp play. i play ashpalt 6 on both of them and feel like the display, speed and performance of game on desire hd is lot better than xp play?
Its possible, I don't know the desires specs but the play is not a power house, though I find the experience enjoyable.
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Both the Xplay and the Desire HD use an Andreno 205 gpu
Both the Xplay and the Desire HD use a second generation 1ghz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
The only difference is the HD has 50% more ram, which, in the case of gaming, maybe the odd stuttering on the xplay
i think the desire hd has a 480x800 screen whereas the play has a 480 x 854 screen which could affect performance
zaheerjane said:
hiya i have a desire hd and xp play. i play ashpalt 6 on both of them and feel like the display, speed and performance of game on desire hd is lot better than xp play?
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How exactly is it worse on the play? I dont have a hd to compare but the game runs flawlessly on my play, the only place it seems a little slow is the menu screens but the actual game is fine
I get major slowdowns in Asphalt on the PLAY.
In fact all Gameloft games are quite bad. Backstab (which I just completed), and even Everybodys Gold stutters.
They should have gave the PLAY more power.
Red_Kop said:
I get major slowdowns in Asphalt on the PLAY.
In fact all Gameloft games are quite bad. Backstab (which I just completed), and even Everybodys Gold stutters.
They should have gave the PLAY more power.
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Chainfire 3d is the single most useful thing you can install to stop the stuttering.
It is a mediator between the app and the open gl drivers.
It actually works pretty darn good.
Chain fire huh? Gonna try that tonight!
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Both the Xplay and the Desire HD use an Andreno 205 gpu
Both the Xplay and the Desire HD use a second generation 1ghz Snapdragon MSM8255 CPU
The only difference is the HD has 50% more ram, which, in the case of gaming, maybe the odd stuttering on the xplay
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the xperia play uses high speed ddr2 ram where as the desire HD doesnt, that easly makes up the shortfall, also the xperia play has better gpu drivers than the DHD
the image quality and game loading speed is really which makes me feel like desire hd is good.
i ran chainfire on both and tried 2 thd games fruit ninja , and on xp play loading and animation some times lag, while on desire hd its smooth.
another off topic thing any one know how to stream PC music to xperia play?
on my desire hd i do it through connected media but cant figure it out on xp play.
is ur desire running a stock rom??
AndroHero said:
the xperia play uses high speed ddr2 ram where as the desire HD doesnt, that easly makes up the shortfall, also the xperia play has better gpu drivers than the DHD
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Cool, good to know.
To be honest I don't notice any major slowdown on the play on any game. In fact when I first tried out the games my first thought was how well they all ran. I found the menu screen to be a tad laggy (button press isn't immediate), but the actual gameplay is just fine.
That is until Asphalt decided to **** the bed...I'm thinking it was my reinstall/update.
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Cool, good to know.
To be honest I don't notice any major slowdown on the play on any game. In fact when I first tried out the games my first thought was how well they all ran. I found the menu screen to be a tad laggy (button press isn't immediate), but the actual gameplay is just fine.
That is until Asphalt decided to **** the bed...I'm thinking it was my reinstall/update.
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Edit: Waaaait, it started randomly working again today!
Edit 2: Damn qoute button. I'm used to edit being there. And no way to delete posts???? Gaaaaaaah!
zaheerjane said:
the image quality and game loading speed is really which makes me feel like desire hd is good.
i ran chainfire on both and tried 2 thd games fruit ninja , and on xp play loading and animation some times lag, while on desire hd its smooth.
another off topic thing any one know how to stream PC music to xperia play?
on my desire hd i do it through connected media but cant figure it out on xp play.
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I doubt the Chainfire 3d open gl settings would make much difference to fruit ninja a 2d game.
Could be wrong though.
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I doubt the Chainfire 3d open gl settings would make much difference to fruit ninja a 2d game.
Could be wrong though.
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sorry i am talking about the Fruit ninja THD with chainfire plugin.
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is ur desire running a stock rom??
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nope , its running Leedroid OC at 1.8Ghz
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nope , its running Leedroid OC at 1.8Ghz
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So, you're telling us that the Play works worse than the Desire HD, and as test devices we get stock Xperia Play (1 Ghz, 512 MB RAM, unoptimized code) against a Desire HD with 80% more clock speed than stock, more RAM (albeit with a lower bus speed) and a much more refined code than stock. Is that a meaningful comparison?
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So, you're telling us that the Play works worse than the Desire HD, and as test devices we get stock Xperia Play (1 Ghz, 512 MB RAM, unoptimized code) against a Desire HD with 80% more clock speed than stock, more RAM (albeit with a lower bus speed) and a much more refined code than stock. Is that a meaningful comparison?
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yeah sorry i realized this thing after some 1 asked about stock rom. still the reason i asked the question is coz like every 1 else i bought this phone for gaming , and atleast it should run the games smooth and better than other devices.
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another off topic thing any one know how to stream PC music to xperia play?
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if you device is rooted, install the cifs module from dev section, use cifsmanager to mount share on your pc to your sdcard and stream video,music and photos from any app and make the phone think its all stored on your sdcard
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I get major slowdowns in Asphalt on the PLAY.
In fact all Gameloft games are quite bad. Backstab (which I just completed), and even Everybodys Gold stutters.
They should have gave the PLAY more power.
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I'd say Let's Golf stutters due to poor programming, not because it taxes the Xperia Play. It stutters when and only when the computer is playing.
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i'm really consedoring buying the legend , just wondering since the CPU is 600MHz , will it be good with intensive 3D gaming like Asphalt 5 , Raging Thunder and Deliverace ?
or should i get the Samsung Wave instead ? cause i won't buy a phone that don't game well
Unlike the HTC hero, the legend has a dedicated GPU so will be better for games.
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Unlike the HTC hero, the legend has a dedicated GPU so will be better for games.
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then why do they say that the legend is only a slight upgrade from the hero in terms of tech?
it runs 3d games smooth, that is the 3d games out now and support tilt control, and that are not a lot of games.
Asphalt, smooth but no tilt control
Raging thunder, smooth for 98%
Google Earth (almost a game) no support doesn´t boot up
simply said, if you want to go for a mobile that supports hardcore 3d games and thatw really important to you in the long term, then get the desire or nexus or iphone. Sure the Legend support and runs the current gen of games perfect. There will come a time in next couple of month when increasing spec demand on a mobile will get the Legend a step back.
But who knows, the Hero getting an upgrade to 2.1 and it performs 100% better then on 1.6 android.
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hi mate can u please confirm any source regarding its dedicated GPU?
i am so excited if this is true since i have milestone which runs on a dedicated GPU and it plays asphalt much better than Nexus
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The MSM7200 SoC in the Hero does have a GPU based on ATI Imageon technology. It's not a particularly capable unit, but it is there.
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hi mate can u please confirm any source regarding its dedicated GPU?
i am so excited if this is true since i have milestone which runs on a dedicated GPU and it plays asphalt much better than Nexus
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Take a look here: qualcomm.com/news/releases/2009/02/12/qualcomm-targets-sub-150-smartphones-versatile-high-performance-chipset-sup
The new MSM7227 chipset features a 600 MHz applications processor with a floating point unit, 320 MHz application DSP, 400 MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics
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Apparently it supports OpenGL 2.0 whereas the Hero's dedicated GPU only suppors OpenGL 1.0. So it should perform better, but so far there are hardly any Android apps that make use of a dedicated GPU so it's hard to actually say how big the difference is.
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Asphalt, smooth but no tilt control
Raging thunder, smooth for 98%
Google Earth (almost a game) no support doesn´t boot up
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I tried these out on my Legend.
Asphalt does work and so does tilt control. You have to enable accelerometer in the game options. The game seemed incredibly fast though. But maybe that's how it's supposed to play.
Raging Thunder. No problems there. Pretty fun too.
And as you said, google earth doesn't even start up
is it asphalt 5 or 3?
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is it asphalt 5 or 3?
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I suppose it is 3....
3D Gaming Tests
I have tested some 3d games from the market place. Some of them only in a lite version, but the graphics should be the same... ^^
There is a rating system om smoothness from 1-5
Speedx 3D
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-beepstreet-speedx-wFnn.aspx
Its product specification tells the truth. It delivers stunning 3D accelerometer controlled tunnel experience without any lags.
5
Armageddon Squadron
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-polarbit-asquadron-pmqD.aspx
By stopping all tasks with my advanced task manager it runs quiet well. But not as smooth as Speedx 3D. Looks like 20 FPS. Anyway its playable and its still fun...
4
Raging Thunder 2 Lite
http://www.androlib.com/android.screenshot.app.nwtE-tEiE.u.aspx
Wow! Amazing 3d graphics! But you reckognize that HTC maybe doesn´t use the full CPU capacity of the legend as it could use. Starting a Race it lags and after some seconds it becomes much smoother, but still a bit laggy. 15-20 FPS therefore you can play it,
3.5
Speed Forge 3D Demo
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.mag3dlite-speedforgedemo-qCmp.aspx
Perfect! Super smooth!
5
Magnetic Sports Soccer
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-revo-proto-tiqp.aspx
Runs very smooth with an occasional appearance of lags... Very seldom
4.5
ToonWarz - LITE
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-polarbit-toonwarzlite-pqtB.aspx
Oh my godness! At first I thougt hey it runs not bad. But then the first enemies appeared and the FPS crashed totally! Unplayable³!
1
Kwaak3 - Quake 3 Arena for Android
http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/
Very nice! After change the lightning from "Lightning maps" to "vertex" and the texture quality to 50% it runs very smooth with only one enemy and quiet okay with 3 enemies...
4.5
For shortness of this post i will only name the game and put a number behind it.
Homerun battle 3D demo- 5
Wave Blazer - 4
Quake 2&1 - 2
Mystique Chapter 1 - 5
My Paper - 5
Lybyrinth - 5
Dice 3D - 5
Friday Escape Lite - 3.5
Armadillo Roll Demo - 5
Vacuum - 5
Raging Thunder 1 - 5
NO ASPHALT 5!!!!!!!!
Upcoming tests after putting money aside
Exzeus Arcade - unfortunately no lite version out there
Deliverace - Omg! trailers look amazing! Hopefully it will be quiet smooth (not available at the moment)
Light Racer 3d - But maybe you can test these games??
Super G Stunt
SpaceTracks
Welcome to Hell 3D (not available at the moment)
Crusade of Destiny (not available at the moment)
AVERAGE RATING: 4,27777
After the devs have some clues to upgrade legends performance it could be nearly 5.
i know this thread is pretty old but i would like to add Dungeon Hunter.
the only game from gameloft that seems to work nearly perfect on the legend (no display resolution problems).
so, without overclocking version 3.11 runs pretty well. some buttons are deformed thats all.
the game doesn´t run perfect, but its playable.
version 3.5.7 (HD) works, too. but the graphics are deformed and youll get errors instead of videos.
Version 3.1.1 = 4.7/5
Version 3.5.7 = 4.2/5
so from all 3d gameloft games just dungen hunter will work well ?
i havent tested all games sofar, i m not that interessted in racing games or football managers and stuff.
but from the games ive tested (assassins creed, sandstorm, nova, hero of sparta and some other i forgot) only dungeon hunter works with the right resolution, nova was basicly playable, too (for example). but playing wouldnt be fun.
Just an aside 'cos I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread, the MSM7227 has the same Adreno 200 GPU that is used in the 1GHz Snapdragon phones like the Desire. Not sure about the clock speed, but I'd imagine it bears at least some relation to the main CPU clock.
Remember though that the Legend has a lot less screen to fill up so the lower fillrate is not so much of an issue, if at all. In fact, when you look at the Neocore benchmarks, the Legend holds up pretty well.
This link* shows Neocore benchmark scores for various devices and although the Legend is not tested, the MyTouch Slide has the same MSM7227 so results are comparable.
A lot of the 3D games for Android look like fairly lazy ports of older iPhone apps (Gameloft, I'm looking at you!) and may not be particularly suited to one Android GPU or another. That's Android fragmentation and an immature market though, eh?
Having said that, if 3D performance is important then something like Galaxy S would surely be the choice handset. The 1+GHz high-resolution devices will be the target devices for any serious game development so you may find that 320x480 and lower handsets are ignored to a great extent. Whether a burgeoning budget market keeps these lower-end device on developers' minds remains to be seen.
Edit to add: The only 3D game I have and play regularly is Carrom 3D (great pool/snooker game) and this is smooth enough even with all the detail turned up. A lot of other apps 'running' in the background will cause occasional lag, but then this is the price we pay for a multi-tasking environment!
* Search for "high end android gpu showdown" to get link at Android&Me (can't link as I'm a new account)
The only game (that I tried) that lags on my legend is caligo chaser
FIFA10 lags too.
the legend isnt a real lower-end device (the wildfire is xD).
if google would optimize android and htc would optimize sense the cpu and gpu would have much more power to for example to play games more fluedly.
if coders would even try to optimize theyr games for legend (and it would be very easy for gameloft for example, htc legend is comparable to the iphone 3gs and most of there games are coded for exactly that device), they would work just perfect.
the lower cpu rate and the lack of ram isnt the real problem: compare the hardware of the phones to a pc 10 years ago, the snapdragon should reach better performance than an pentium 3/1ghz cause of the architectur, the gpu is far away from the power of a geforce 2mx, but still pretty good.
based on the better architecture (n45; arm) the 600mhz msm7227 should be comparable to a 800mhz pentium 3.
this hardware has to work with a smaller screen with a fixed resolution. they could reach so much better performance, graphics etc. they are just too lazy.
(ps: i know that smartphone hardware isnt really comparable to hardware that was in pcs back then, but mhz is mhz)
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(ps: i know that smartphone hardware isnt really comparable to hardware that was in pcs back then, but mhz is mhz)
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Yeah, but MHz to MHz rarely mean much, even in the same architecture. For example: The new Qualcomm CPU's, found in the Desire-Z (T-Mobile G2, 800MHz) outperform the 1GHz (1000MHz) CPU found in the Dersire by a long way (these are both ARM). If you look at AMD CPUs vs Intel CPUs then AMD almost always outperform Intel, even on a lower clock-speed. (Both the x86-64 architecture). MHz to MHz only has a real, measurable, bearing when applied to 2 of the same CPUs at to different clock speeds (overclocking)
Having said all that, I do agree with your post. The Legend is capable of so much more, if only people would take the time to code properly. Part of the problem is that people rely on the Dalvik VM (fairly phone-independent), so they rarely have to code on a "per-phone-model" basis. With the iPhone, as it's only ever 1 set of hardware, programmers can easily optimise it for the iPhone. It's much harder to optimise for Android, as it exists on so many phones, each with different specs. But that's the price you pay for choice...
Suprisingly the Legends GPU outperforms the Desire in 3D benchmarks. The CPU is certainly weaker in the Legend, but the comparison below is not quite far because the Legend is still on 2.1 and the desire benchmark was 2.2
Hopefully soon they can be compared like for like...
hxxp://wxw.glbenchmark.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=glpro11&showhide=true&certified_only=1&D1=HTC%20Legend&D2=HTC%20Desire%20(Bravo)&D3=Apple%20iPhone%204
THis is a good read:
hxxp://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/105-analysis-of-qualcomm-msm7x27-msm7227-msm7627-and-msm7x25-msm7225-msm7625-processors-how-good-are-they/
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
Update: New video ,video and sound quality are slightly less crappy and image is not mirrored (Recorded using my iSight cam since I dont have my flip ATM). Notice how I pan around a lot to show how smooth it runs.
And yes, the version up on gameloft's mobile site is the updated version for Snapdragon. I paid $4.99 for it. The game itself is quite fun ;D
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The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
zeuzinn said:
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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That game looks bad ass,it's for android or are you using a emulator?
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The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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1. Please tell me this game is in the Market (or soon will be)!
2. Why the mirror image?
I'm very impressed. I hope to see much more like it.
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Does that game have a option for bluetooth pad because if it does i got a wii classic controller waiting on it....?
zeuzinn said:
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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I agree. I had an IPhone 3g that I sold to buy my first Android ( Samsung moment) and was very satisfied, except for the games! They just didn't compare. I realized they're only like 8 know' s at the most compared to iphones, which I seen easily be 200 MB each. Definitely cumming up!
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Name of game?
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Nova.......its one of those gamesloft games. its only 4.99 too
The game looks good, but it wasn't made with Snapdragon nor the Adreno GPU initially, it's a port of an iPhone game originally created with the PowerVR GPU found on that processor.
It's a good port, yes, but I think your point is a bit lost.
I would love to see a game built for the Snapdragon and Adreno in mind, if a port can work this well, I can only imagine a game being built-from the ground up with the Adreno in mind would look and run even better.
All of the hd games from gameloft are amazing i currently own nova... gangstar which is similar to grand thieft auto.. and asphalt which is the best racing game for android there is most of thier games arent in the market you have to go to thier mobile site however you can try the asphalt hd demo that is in the market if you go to thier site you can get thier lets golf game for free. It is a golf game with amazing graphics dont really play it alot but its free so i have it.
Yes any game that's optomized for a perticular GPU will excell, but here's the problem the world doesn't revolve around the Snapdragon. So the better fix would be for the GPU to adapt to the game and not the other way around, the GPU isn't complete garbage but it could be a hell of alot better with proper coding and better drivers.
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All of the hd games from gameloft are amazing i currently own nova... gangstar which is similar to grand thieft auto.. and asphalt which is the best racing game for android there is most of thier games arent in the market you have to go to thier mobile site however you can try the asphalt hd demo that is in the market if you go to thier site you can get thier lets golf game for free. It is a golf game with amazing graphics dont really play it alot but its free so i have it.
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+1 gameloft is making some great games
I have:
Nova
Gangstar
Lets Golf
Asphalt5
H.A.W.X
They all runn really well. I have had some trouble with touch points freezing if for example I'm steering in Gangstar and pressing the gas and let up on the gas the steering gets stuck until I hit the gas again or let go and retouch the steering wheel.
All in all though I'm thoroughly impressed with the games
Yea i have that problem with gangstar to also with asphalt it glitches during the end of races or high speeds nova online multiplayer is the sh**
Does NOVA let you play mutiplayer cross system, evo <> iphone?
Im not sure but there is alway alot of people playing online unlike toonwars or any other multiplayer ive came across
Man, looking at the gameloft catalog, they definitely need to port driver over from the palm pre. That would make me a very, very, happy person
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The game looks good, but it wasn't made with Snapdragon nor the Adreno GPU initially, it's a port of an iPhone game originally created with the PowerVR GPU found on that processor.
It's a good port, yes, but I think your point is a bit lost.
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Actually, I can tell you with 100% confidence that the version I'm running was coded SPECIFICALLY for Qualcomm-Based snapdragon chips. Trust me, it would not be running as smooth if I was running the PowerVR version that is available for the Motorola Droid.
haha im going to try and find my post from the hero forums when i told everyone the adreno is secretly BA
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Yes any game that's optomized for a perticular GPU will excell, but here's the problem the world doesn't revolve around the Snapdragon. So the better fix would be for the GPU to adapt to the game and not the other way around, the GPU isn't complete garbage but it could be a hell of alot better with proper coding and better drivers.
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Well, while that is true, there are literally millions of Snapdragon phones being released and sold as we speak. Yet I had to jump through hoops to get this game, as it's not available through Android Market. Then you wonder why Gameloft goes on record to complain that their Android games don't sell as well as they do on the iPhone. It's like they want to have their cake and eat it, too....Ridiculous. Also, it's NOT hard to adapt games to the Adreno GPU from PowerVR(Hint: Fill Rate.)....Especially when there's a huge market, with huge demand, with millions of people just waiting to buy games that perform well on their phones.
It's Nova, and it was made for the iPhone... and it lags on the HTC EVO, 20-30fps...
Games that do run well are something like Raging Thunder 2.
Also fix the audio, ear rape.
I might be getting a desire hd tomorrow but I wanna know how the desire HD handles video processing with its new Gpu. So how does it play video and psx4droid, because my desire has a bit of trouble with high def movies and playing FF 9.
Thanks in advance
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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using ninamark 1 .
the GPU for galaxy S will give you 49 fps.
the GPU for Desire HD i have been told its about 35
for Neocore its 55 for Galaxy S vs 58 for HD Desire. but keep in mind that its not fair way to measure using neocore due to the fact its locked @ 55 to 60 fps for Galaxy S
with ninamark 1 . which use more heavey rendering. its showing the gpu true color.
however, you also need to notice that both tests dont mean anything. as i was explaining before in other thread, the dev standard for games is nexus 1. so really. most of the games will run fine on nexus 1. means galaxy s or hd desire wont get any benifits for being superior phones.
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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not to be an ass. but its both CPU and GPU for PSX4dorid
PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?
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PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?
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Don't get the wrong idea. The DHD is excellent for games that use the GPU, but psx4droid uses CPU mainly. In all honesty, the PSX4droid app is not coded very well. Performance isn't great not because of the DHD's hardware, but because of dodgy programming. The developer doesn't seem to care too much for optimizing the app either.
yupp... the guy above me is right. check videos of fpsece, psx emulator for windows mobile. this thing flies, it can even run tekken 3 full speed. ... but guys developing it are real smarties, that's why it runs so well on snapdragon first gen.
I havent seen any vids showing gameplay performance on the Desire HD except angry birds. Has anyone found any or plan on doing one to demo some gameplay videos such as asphalt/nova/modern combat.. its just to see the difference between the smoothness of the HTC Desire (Adreno 200) and Desire HD (Adreno 205).. Im just afraid that there arent much difference between it.
And btw, have any of you guys played some 3D games on your Desire HD? How was it and how do u compare to other snapdragon phones for an example and is it better compared to other snapdragon phones?
Spill some reviews on this please
It benchmarks twice as fast as the one in the Desire, so the difference should be noticeable (unless the games you're testing aren't pushing hard enough of course).
NZtechfreak said:
It benchmarks twice as fast as the one in the Desire, so the difference should be noticeable (unless the games you're testing aren't pushing hard enough of course).
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im just afraid that neocore arent a proper benchmark and adreno based games arent that smooth compared to PowerVR's.. have u tried games on the DHD? do u see significant difference?
well i can confirm that its really underpowered, ..... compared to Fermi
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im just afraid that neocore arent a proper benchmark and adreno based games arent that smooth compared to PowerVR's.. have u tried games on the DHD? do u see significant difference?
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Yes, the gaming sector is geared towards PowerVR as can be found on both the Galaxy S & i-Phone.
These games running on the SGS are absolutely fantastic and when you then hook it up to a large 42" LED TV it's unbelievable quality for a phone.
I do believe HTC missed a trick in not incorporating a TV Out on their flagship phone.
Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU
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Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU
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great video! all games looks smooth!
teihoata said:
Just took a quick video of all the games for you guys, enjoy. Sorry for the shaky camera, girlfriend was holding it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWNN9TNqXU
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what games are those and where did you get them??
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what games are those and where did you get them??
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All the gameloft games like nova and sandstorm you have to buy from their website http://www.gameloft.com.au/android-games/top/
as they aren't sold on the market.
All the games play very smoothly, and although the sgs has a more powerful gpu android games are seemingly more optimized for Qualcomm processors, so trust me when I say games play as smooth as butter.
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All the games play very smoothly, and although the sgs has a more powerful gpu android games are seemingly more optimized for Qualcomm processors, so trust me when I say games play as smooth as butter.
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when people will understand that all the games on the market right now are based on nexus 1 as its the phone those devs are using to develope for it ?
iwas able to run all games smooth as butter on HD2.
yes the SGS GPU is much better. but it doesnt matter. no game use it. and i am a sgs owner :/
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
when people will understand that all the games on the market right now are based on nexus 1 as its the phone those devs are using to develope for it ?
iwas able to run all games smooth as butter on HD2.
yes the SGS GPU is much better. but it doesnt matter. no game use it. and i am a sgs owner :/
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Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.
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Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.
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im not quite sure.. u have facts there but i see that games are ported from iOS (powerVR based) to android and it would be an advantage for PowerVR based phones such as motorola's and samsung.. but that is what it is used to be, now im seeing that games are ported properly for snapdragon based thus we are seeing an increase of performance compared to previously, we cant even play NFS Shift before it is ported to snapdragon phones properly..
The rumored Sony PSP phone is a snapdragon/adreno205 based.. sweet.. hopefully more devs will focus more on adreno since the number of adreno based phones is growing..
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Yes i know... the DHD is qualcomm based and therefore games are better optimized for it rather than for phones such as the SGS, which is what i said if you read my post carefully.
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Not true.... Games such as those from Gameloft are initially made for the i-Phone and ported to Android. The i-Phone uses the same processor as the SGS (PowerVR).
As override182 says ~ It is up to developers to recompile for Adreno.
Hi,
I wanted to ask if someone was able to run the game smoothly on hd2 cartoon wars. Maybe someone knows how to do it? I've tried a few roms also with HWA and nothing. Chainfire 3d program did not help too.
The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games
Marek989 said:
The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games
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And how has the desire hd graphics processor? on this hardware the cartoon wars runs smoothly.
Luniopl said:
And how has the desire hd graphics processor? on this hardware the cartoon wars runs smoothly.
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I accidentally clicked thanks. Anyway, the Desire HD have Adreno 205, which have a lot more power
Hello. I have played many games on my hd2 and what i can say that modern combat series works well (even the third one), asphalt series is playble inc 7 heat but i dont like stering. You can play older gameloft games such as avatar, brothers in arms. Nova 2 and 3 are totaly unplayble. The greatets thing about adreno in our hd'2 is that you can run shadowgun and dead trigger (those two has a console graphics and they running very well). So im not totaly agreed with opinions that adreno 200 in hd2 is too weak to play games.
I play gameloft games too, they run well, yes, but not as fast. We need tweaks etc. for those games playing smooth. And, the Adreno 205 DONT need any tweaks. The Adreno 200 is Just too old, trust me.
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I play gameloft games too, they run well, yes, but not as fast. We need tweaks etc. for those games playing smooth. And, the Adreno 205 DONT need any tweaks. The Adreno 200 is Just too old, trust me.
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and how can we tweak it? (not with buying a new phone haha xD)
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and how can we tweak it? (not with buying a new phone haha xD)
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Unless you know what you're doing, you'll need to use chainfire to lower textures. It'll run good enough but not well.
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The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games
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You're wrong.
Our HD2 is just too old for playing current games. Sorry. Other devices that run Adreno 200 have lower resolution (eg. 240x320 instead of 480x800). That's why it is so weak now. Maybe we will have next reovlution in HD2 development, but I don't think so. Other devices with native Android got faster by some tweaks, we had to get everything prepaired for our devices first (with base drivers too).
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Our HD2 is just too old for playing current games. Sorry. Other devices that run Adreno 200 have lower resolution (eg. 240x320 instead of 480x800). That's why it is so weak now. Maybe we will have next reovlution in HD2 development, but I don't think so. Other devices with native Android got faster by some tweaks, we had to get everything prepaired for our devices first (with base drivers too).
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I have also played a few gameloft games including NOVA 2 which was not ideal 'cause of lagging a little but still playable. I even could start NOVA 3 but playing that was like pain in the ass. I didn't have problems with Mass Effect Infiltrator, and other games mentioned above. the only thing I still can't handle with is Dungeon Hunter 2. I wish I could play that. BTW pozdrowienia dla ziomków