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Think the Adreno GPU on Evo Sucks? Check this out!

The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
Update: New video ,video and sound quality are slightly less crappy and image is not mirrored (Recorded using my iSight cam since I dont have my flip ATM). Notice how I pan around a lot to show how smooth it runs.
And yes, the version up on gameloft's mobile site is the updated version for Snapdragon. I paid $4.99 for it. The game itself is quite fun ;D
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The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.

zeuzinn said:
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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That game looks bad ass,it's for android or are you using a emulator?

zeuzinn said:
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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1. Please tell me this game is in the Market (or soon will be)!
2. Why the mirror image?

I'm very impressed. I hope to see much more like it.
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Does that game have a option for bluetooth pad because if it does i got a wii classic controller waiting on it....?

zeuzinn said:
The Adreno GPU on the evo does not suck. Games just need to be adapted to it. Here's a video I just made showing a game made specifically for the Snapdragon GPU. Now if all companies did this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BOMsYsYOZo
The quality of the video is not the best, but you can tell the game runs VERY smooth and the graphics are the best i've seen on any cell phone, bar none. The game looks better than it did on my iPhone 3GS. Textures are crisp and the game has an HD feel to it. Also controls are very good, the huge screen on the evo really helps.
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I agree. I had an IPhone 3g that I sold to buy my first Android ( Samsung moment) and was very satisfied, except for the games! They just didn't compare. I realized they're only like 8 know' s at the most compared to iphones, which I seen easily be 200 MB each. Definitely cumming up!
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Name of game?
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Nova.......its one of those gamesloft games. its only 4.99 too

The game looks good, but it wasn't made with Snapdragon nor the Adreno GPU initially, it's a port of an iPhone game originally created with the PowerVR GPU found on that processor.
It's a good port, yes, but I think your point is a bit lost.
I would love to see a game built for the Snapdragon and Adreno in mind, if a port can work this well, I can only imagine a game being built-from the ground up with the Adreno in mind would look and run even better.

All of the hd games from gameloft are amazing i currently own nova... gangstar which is similar to grand thieft auto.. and asphalt which is the best racing game for android there is most of thier games arent in the market you have to go to thier mobile site however you can try the asphalt hd demo that is in the market if you go to thier site you can get thier lets golf game for free. It is a golf game with amazing graphics dont really play it alot but its free so i have it.

Yes any game that's optomized for a perticular GPU will excell, but here's the problem the world doesn't revolve around the Snapdragon. So the better fix would be for the GPU to adapt to the game and not the other way around, the GPU isn't complete garbage but it could be a hell of alot better with proper coding and better drivers.

swagglifee said:
All of the hd games from gameloft are amazing i currently own nova... gangstar which is similar to grand thieft auto.. and asphalt which is the best racing game for android there is most of thier games arent in the market you have to go to thier mobile site however you can try the asphalt hd demo that is in the market if you go to thier site you can get thier lets golf game for free. It is a golf game with amazing graphics dont really play it alot but its free so i have it.
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+1 gameloft is making some great games
I have:
Nova
Gangstar
Lets Golf
Asphalt5
H.A.W.X
They all runn really well. I have had some trouble with touch points freezing if for example I'm steering in Gangstar and pressing the gas and let up on the gas the steering gets stuck until I hit the gas again or let go and retouch the steering wheel.
All in all though I'm thoroughly impressed with the games

Yea i have that problem with gangstar to also with asphalt it glitches during the end of races or high speeds nova online multiplayer is the sh**

Does NOVA let you play mutiplayer cross system, evo <> iphone?

Im not sure but there is alway alot of people playing online unlike toonwars or any other multiplayer ive came across

Man, looking at the gameloft catalog, they definitely need to port driver over from the palm pre. That would make me a very, very, happy person

Android 17 said:
The game looks good, but it wasn't made with Snapdragon nor the Adreno GPU initially, it's a port of an iPhone game originally created with the PowerVR GPU found on that processor.
It's a good port, yes, but I think your point is a bit lost.
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Actually, I can tell you with 100% confidence that the version I'm running was coded SPECIFICALLY for Qualcomm-Based snapdragon chips. Trust me, it would not be running as smooth if I was running the PowerVR version that is available for the Motorola Droid.

haha im going to try and find my post from the hero forums when i told everyone the adreno is secretly BA

ForrelZ said:
Yes any game that's optomized for a perticular GPU will excell, but here's the problem the world doesn't revolve around the Snapdragon. So the better fix would be for the GPU to adapt to the game and not the other way around, the GPU isn't complete garbage but it could be a hell of alot better with proper coding and better drivers.
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Well, while that is true, there are literally millions of Snapdragon phones being released and sold as we speak. Yet I had to jump through hoops to get this game, as it's not available through Android Market. Then you wonder why Gameloft goes on record to complain that their Android games don't sell as well as they do on the iPhone. It's like they want to have their cake and eat it, too....Ridiculous. Also, it's NOT hard to adapt games to the Adreno GPU from PowerVR(Hint: Fill Rate.)....Especially when there's a huge market, with huge demand, with millions of people just waiting to buy games that perform well on their phones.

It's Nova, and it was made for the iPhone... and it lags on the HTC EVO, 20-30fps...
Games that do run well are something like Raging Thunder 2.
Also fix the audio, ear rape.

If froyo is optimized for snapdragon processors then why why samsung used humingbird

If froyo is optimized for snapdragon processors then why samsung used humingbird processor

Why do you assume this? The two cpu's share much in common.
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Why do you assume this? The two cpu's share much in common.
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benchmarks and system speed

dadyal said:
benchmarks and system speed
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Why would Samsung make their own chip? Put simply, because they can. Samsung has the facilities and expertise needed to make their own chip, and by so doing they avoid the need of purchasing chips from another vendor (in this case, their competition: Qualcomm).
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http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/snapdragon-versus-hummingbird

dadyal said:
If froyo is optimized for snapdragon processors then why samsung used humingbird processor
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because they didn't want to use the ****ty gpu that comes with the original snapdragon (the newer snapdragon like in the dhd has a good gpu).

Because hummingbird is vastly superior in real world scenarios

Quadrant and linpack as well as most CPU benchmarks that rely on math being done by FPU run much quicker on the snapdragon because of its 128 bit register vs hummingbirds 64. I believe the snapdragons can turn half of it off to save power too. This explains part of the benchmarks but the hummingbird has optimizations snapdragon doesn't, and vise versa,but is suppose to be faster in most real world scenarios as Samsung claims and judging by browser load time comparisons I've seen and how well it runs android 2.1 I'd be inclined to agree. It keeps up with a nexus running 2.2 which is very reassuring so I'd worry less on benchmarks if I were you unless you really feel the need to show your friends how fast your phone can calculate pi to nth degree.
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@ darkimmortal, Is it really? Then why does my n1 with its "crap" snapdragon CPU run everything faster?
On paper yes hummingbird is better, but in the real world as you put it, its only as good as the software that runs on it, and I've not found anything yet that runs faster thanks to having a hummingbird than it would on say an n1 or desire.

The sgs is crippled by rfs, no processor can make up for that. In 3d games the sgs out performs any snapdragon based phones
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jaysins said:
It keeps up with a nexus running 2.2 which is very reassuring so I'd worry less on benchmarks if I were you unless you really feel the need to show your friends how fast your phone can calculate pi to nth degree.
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No disrespect but a well setup nexus on 2.2 is noticeably faster than even the most streamlined lag fixed sgs. The sgs wins the quadrant benchmark but in actual use the nexus is a fair bit faster.

tameracingdriver said:
@ darkimmortal, Is it really? Then why does my n1 with its "crap" snapdragon CPU run everything faster?
On paper yes hummingbird is better, but in the real world as you put it, its only as good as the software that runs on it, and I've not found anything yet that runs faster thanks to having a hummingbird than it would on say an n1 or desire.
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You take into consideration just the CPU, N1 and SGS's file systems are different resulting in SGS to be bottlenecked; SGS's main plus is the GPU power, try running those types of GPU heavy items on N1 and they will not run as well. That's the main benefit of Hummingbird compared to Snap but don't just rely on comparing CPU's, there are more things at work here.
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No disrespect but a well setup nexus on 2.2 is noticeably faster than even the most streamlined lag fixed sgs. The sgs wins the quadrant benchmark but in actual use the nexus is a fair bit faster.
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Quadrant doesn't mean much, placebo effect at work here. Just a benchmark and doesn't translate (much) into real-world performance. Remember that Google also developed 2.2 almost specifically with Nexus One in mind resulting in more benefits on a N1 than a lot of phones.

lokhor said:
In 3d games the sgs out performs any snapdragon based phone
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Admittedly I've not tried them all, and I admit the sgs runs the graphics benchmarks in quadrant noticeably faster, but the games I've tried all run about the same, so what good is that super powerful gpu if nothing takes advantage of it?

Try some gameloft games like asphalt 5, the sgs is a lot smoother
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Ill give it a try. Games are nice but not my main use, the ones I've tried so far including some 3d ones have been fine on the n1 so far.

Hummingbird is the processor of choice for the two most famous smartphones in the world at the moment. Our best among the rest Galaxy and the Iphone 4. So it's the winners choice.

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Ill give it a try. Games are nice but not my main use, the ones I've tried so far including some 3d ones have been fine on the n1 so far.
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You could try using a GPU benchmark rather than a system wide benchmark to determine GPU power. Neocore for example is strictly GPU and SGS outperforms N1 almost two-fold.
Again, that is a benchmark and you just have to try out different apps and games to test out GPU's for yourself.

Well for what its worth I've just tried asphalt 5, on the n1 and honestly its just as smooth as on the sgs, so in the end I still say there seems no real advantage in the real world.

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Hummingbird is the processor of choice for the two most famous smartphones in the world at the moment. Our best among the rest Galaxy and the Iphone 4. So it's the winners choice.
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makes me wonder, if only Samsung could put iOS4 into Galaxy. we would have the fastest phone for sure,
unfortunately they builded Apple hardware and loaded crapy Android,

tameracingdriver said:
Well for what its worth I've just tried asphalt 5, on the n1 and honestly its just as smooth as on the sgs, so in the end I still say there seems no real advantage in the real world.
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Sorry mate but I have to disagree. Having owned a Nexus One, a HTC Desire and a SGS, I can tell you that the Nexus One was the fastest for opening apps, market, etc. The SGS fell between the nexus and the desire. I think each processor has been optimised for different things.
There is a HUGE difference in the graphics department. Asphalt, especially the old hardware accelerated versions (the new ones are dumbed down so they work on the snapdragon phones) were extremely laggy on the nexus and desire. on the SGS theyre very smooth and dont have the annoying multitouch bug.
Try the other gameloft games (sandstorm), polarbit (toon warz), pretty much all of the (few) 3d intensive apps. Very noticeable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNt1EQYheQ
the difference in performance was the reason I switched, esp the annoying multi touch, and welcomed my way into a world of sgs lag issues and a non working gps
Im not a big gamer but I do occasionally pull out a title. The differences in the processors is also apparent if you use rockplayer to watch videos.
imho, I preferred the hardware and AOSP feel of the nexus but wish the hummingbird processor+gpu had been used instead of the snaprdragon (or alternatively the snapdragon with a better gpu).

sonci said:
makes me wonder, if only Samsung could put iOS4 into Galaxy. we would have the fastest phone for sure,
unfortunately they builded Apple hardware and loaded crapy Android,
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I hope you're kidding on this one!
iOS is a closed system with a closed mind. Apps have to go trough intensive aprouval for the AllMighty and AllKnowing apple before hitting the market and, for small idiotic mistake, like a logo to close to the one of the AllMighty, it won't be aprouved.
And not to talk about all the iTune that you have to install just to get it to sync/update... you think Kies is crappy, try iTune on windows...you'll get a couple of services in the background in bonus with the resource hog app!
And, on another note, you should all take in consideration all the GPU intessive task in android, Gaming is only part of it... don't forget browsing, gallery, video playback (you can record a 720p video and watch it back full fluid).
Frankly, I don't realy get all the fuss about the so called "lag" on SGS... I don't realy get any at all and I'm still on the original (no lag fix) rom...

Gpu quality

I might be getting a desire hd tomorrow but I wanna know how the desire HD handles video processing with its new Gpu. So how does it play video and psx4droid, because my desire has a bit of trouble with high def movies and playing FF 9.
Thanks in advance
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GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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DevilzDontCry said:
Oh I didn't know about that, I always thought it had a lot to do with the Gpu because it runs so well on the galaxy S
But its nice to hear that the video is good especially with its huge screen
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using ninamark 1 .
the GPU for galaxy S will give you 49 fps.
the GPU for Desire HD i have been told its about 35
for Neocore its 55 for Galaxy S vs 58 for HD Desire. but keep in mind that its not fair way to measure using neocore due to the fact its locked @ 55 to 60 fps for Galaxy S
with ninamark 1 . which use more heavey rendering. its showing the gpu true color.
however, you also need to notice that both tests dont mean anything. as i was explaining before in other thread, the dev standard for games is nexus 1. so really. most of the games will run fine on nexus 1. means galaxy s or hd desire wont get any benifits for being superior phones.

SupremeBeaver said:
GPU is really good. I don't have one so my thoughts are based on stuff i've seen online. But it should handle videos just fine.
As for psx4droid, that is not dependent on the GPU, but actually the CPU because it is an emulation program. So in that regard don't expect to see too much of a difference with other phones out there.
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not to be an ass. but its both CPU and GPU for PSX4dorid

PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?

Ethania said:
PSX4Droid is pretty slow. Have played Diablo and Castevania - Symphony of the Night.
Both plays as if they were run in slowmotion.
Im not satisfyad at all. Seams as if the Desire HD isnt ment for playing games.
SNESoid works great tough. Only slows down in shoot-em-up games.
Anyway, is there a fix for or frameskip in PSX4Droid to activate?
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Don't get the wrong idea. The DHD is excellent for games that use the GPU, but psx4droid uses CPU mainly. In all honesty, the PSX4droid app is not coded very well. Performance isn't great not because of the DHD's hardware, but because of dodgy programming. The developer doesn't seem to care too much for optimizing the app either.

yupp... the guy above me is right. check videos of fpsece, psx emulator for windows mobile. this thing flies, it can even run tekken 3 full speed. ... but guys developing it are real smarties, that's why it runs so well on snapdragon first gen.

Vibrant is a best when it comes to graphics!!

KI my vibrant beats my g1 when it's running on 100mhz in the an3d benchmark app. Thats beasty. Also out also plays asphalt 5hd on 400mhz smoothly. I'd like to see if any snapdragon books do that!! Haha. Even when our phones software suck, they still write on top.

ha OLD news
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KI my vibrant beats my g1 when it's running on 100mhz in the an3d benchmark app. Thats beasty. Also out also plays asphalt 5hd on 400mhz smoothly. I'd like to see if any snapdragon books do that!! Haha. Even when our phones software suck, they still write on top.
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I am shocked because you just knew that and btw it is not fair comparing with G1.

Did you really just compare a Vibrant to a G1...?

helikido said:
KI my vibrant beats my g1 when it's running on 100mhz in the an3d benchmark app. Thats beasty. Also out also plays asphalt 5hd on 400mhz smoothly. I'd like to see if any snapdragon books do that!! Haha. Even when our phones software suck, they still write on top.
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For most games, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, the GPU is.
So it's not surprising you can play a game smoothly on it with the CPU ambitiously underclocked.
The CPU isn't doing most of the work, the GPU is, so the fact that the CPU is underclocked so low doesn't have as much of an impact on performance.
Second gen iPhones didn't have 1GHz CPUs with last gen GPUs in them, and games performed quite well on them, for example...

N8ter said:
For most games, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, the GPU is.
So it's not surprising you can play a game smoothly on it with the CPU ambitiously underclocked.
The CPU isn't doing most of the work, the GPU is, so the fact that the CPU is underclocked so low doesn't have as much of an impact on performance.
Second gen iPhones didn't have 1GHz CPUs with last gen GPUs in them, and games performed quite well on them, for example...
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Yeah I know.reason why the 3gs can achieve iphone 4 graphics cuz they both have the same sgx535

anthonys2r said:
Did you really just compare a Vibrant to a G1...?
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THis made me lol.

Paging Dr B said:
THis made me lol.
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I was just bored.

N8ter said:
For most games, the CPU isn't the bottleneck, the GPU is.
So it's not surprising you can play a game smoothly on it with the CPU ambitiously underclocked.
The CPU isn't doing most of the work, the GPU is, so the fact that the CPU is underclocked so low doesn't have as much of an impact on performance.
Second gen iPhones didn't have 1GHz CPUs with last gen GPUs in them, and games performed quite well on them, for example...
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games for iphone are optimized for the device.. look at the droid X that has the same GPU as the 3GS, but dungeon defenders does not run as smooth on droid X.. why is that?
hardware acceleration?
ram allocation?

Ms_Vibrant said:
games for iphone are optimized for the device.. look at the droid X that has the same GPU as the 3GS, but dungeon defenders does not run as smooth on droid X.. why is that?
hardware acceleration?
ram allocation?
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Android has too many different devices with different hardware, so that means the games codes are not optimized to run and take full advantage of the hardware. Thats why the ps3 has 5 year old hardware and it still had better graphics than some off the high end gaming pcs.

Ms_Vibrant said:
games for iphone are optimized for the device.. look at the droid X that has the same GPU as the 3GS, but dungeon defenders does not run as smooth on droid X.. why is that?
hardware acceleration?
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Stable Hardware platform, and stabe device specs.
Also, iOS is just better for game development than Android, though the latter is getting better.

I loled anyways no dude not a fair comparison the first android phone with a gpu not even the first iphone loses
I miss my g1 though
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Alanrocks15 said:
I loled anyways no dude not a fair comparison the first android phone with a gpu not even the first iphone loses
I miss my g1 though
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Did you ever finish that hero rom?
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Ms_Vibrant said:
games for iphone are optimized for the device.. look at the droid X that has the same GPU as the 3GS, but dungeon defenders does not run as smooth on droid X.. why is that?
hardware acceleration?
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The OS. Apple has engineers and devs working on 3 devices. iPhone, iPod Touch, and the iPad. They have one huge team working on 3 devices that for the most part are nearly identical. Motorola alone has a crap load of phones all on different versions of the same OS that are all spec'ed differently. Assuming that motorola has the same amount of dev's as apple (unlikely), they now have to divide their time between all of their devices. Then we have to look at the devs of the game and find out what they're using as their test device, and then also see if this is just a port or if they built it from the ground up for android. If it's anything like a port from the 360 to a PS3 or vice versa then it makes sense why it runs better on one platform than the other. But I don't really know, i'm just talking out of my arse.

Paging Dr B said:
The OS. Apple has engineers and devs working on 3 devices. iPhone, iPod Touch, and the iPad. They have one huge team working on 3 devices that for the most part are nearly identical. Motorola alone has a crap load of phones all on different versions of the same OS that are all spec'ed differently. Assuming that motorola has the same amount of dev's as apple (unlikely), they now have to divide their time between all of their devices. Then we have to look at the devs of the game and find out what they're using as their test device, and then also see if this is just a port or if they built it from the ground up for android. If it's anything like a port from the 360 to a PS3 or vice versa then it makes sense why it runs better on one platform than the other. But I don't really know, i'm just talking out of my arse.
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Or because of 'fragmentation'? Adroid doesn't have hardware acceleration yet, so high end 3d games will only work well with powerful gpu like that of galaxy s..

Ms_Vibrant said:
Look at the droid X that has the same GPU as the 3GS, but dungeon defenders does not run as smooth on droid X.. why is that?
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That's most likely because the Galaxy S line has the PowerVR 540 and the Droid 2 / Droid X / iPhone all have a lesser / earlier PowerVR GPU (535). Hence why the Dungeon Defenders description itself list them mid-range and not high-end like the other devices listed.

epakrat75 said:
That's most likely because the Galaxy S line has the PowerVR 540 and the Droid 2 / Droid X / iPhone all have a lesser / earlier PowerVR GPU (535). Hence why the Dungeon Defenders description itself list them mid-range and not high-end like the other devices listed.
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Even with what we have, nothing looks comparable to infinity blade.

Games on HD2

Hi,
I wanted to ask if someone was able to run the game smoothly on hd2 cartoon wars. Maybe someone knows how to do it? I've tried a few roms also with HWA and nothing. Chainfire 3d program did not help too.

The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games

Marek989 said:
The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games
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And how has the desire hd graphics processor? on this hardware the cartoon wars runs smoothly.

Luniopl said:
And how has the desire hd graphics processor? on this hardware the cartoon wars runs smoothly.
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I accidentally clicked thanks. Anyway, the Desire HD have Adreno 205, which have a lot more power

Hello. I have played many games on my hd2 and what i can say that modern combat series works well (even the third one), asphalt series is playble inc 7 heat but i dont like stering. You can play older gameloft games such as avatar, brothers in arms. Nova 2 and 3 are totaly unplayble. The greatets thing about adreno in our hd'2 is that you can run shadowgun and dead trigger (those two has a console graphics and they running very well). So im not totaly agreed with opinions that adreno 200 in hd2 is too weak to play games.

I play gameloft games too, they run well, yes, but not as fast. We need tweaks etc. for those games playing smooth. And, the Adreno 205 DONT need any tweaks. The Adreno 200 is Just too old, trust me.

Marek989 said:
I play gameloft games too, they run well, yes, but not as fast. We need tweaks etc. for those games playing smooth. And, the Adreno 205 DONT need any tweaks. The Adreno 200 is Just too old, trust me.
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and how can we tweak it? (not with buying a new phone haha xD)

M3lloW1 said:
and how can we tweak it? (not with buying a new phone haha xD)
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Unless you know what you're doing, you'll need to use chainfire to lower textures. It'll run good enough but not well.
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Marek989 said:
The Adreno 200, that HD2 has, is just tooooo weak for playing games
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You're wrong.

Our HD2 is just too old for playing current games. Sorry. Other devices that run Adreno 200 have lower resolution (eg. 240x320 instead of 480x800). That's why it is so weak now. Maybe we will have next reovlution in HD2 development, but I don't think so. Other devices with native Android got faster by some tweaks, we had to get everything prepaired for our devices first (with base drivers too).

kubekpop said:
Our HD2 is just too old for playing current games. Sorry. Other devices that run Adreno 200 have lower resolution (eg. 240x320 instead of 480x800). That's why it is so weak now. Maybe we will have next reovlution in HD2 development, but I don't think so. Other devices with native Android got faster by some tweaks, we had to get everything prepaired for our devices first (with base drivers too).
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I have also played a few gameloft games including NOVA 2 which was not ideal 'cause of lagging a little but still playable. I even could start NOVA 3 but playing that was like pain in the ass. I didn't have problems with Mass Effect Infiltrator, and other games mentioned above. the only thing I still can't handle with is Dungeon Hunter 2. I wish I could play that. BTW pozdrowienia dla ziomków