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Anyone getting CONSTANT force stop errors after HTC magic Update? (ROGERS)

If i sometimes try and open a 3rd party app or even some 1st party ones like Gmail, i get into a force stop loop. (app then android, app than android) that i can't get out of unless i take out the battery. This happens ALOT! never experienced this before the mandatory bs update!
Anyone got any suggestions on how to fix, will a factory reset do anything?

ive been getting FC on my gmail and email app
odd, but would you expect less from a rogers update?

crash6 said:
ive been getting FC on my gmail and email app
odd, but would you expect less from a rogers update?
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ive been using the official update without any problems...
infact, i havent even rebooted the phone since i got the update.
i have a few 3rd party apps installed, including taskiller. no force closes or anything to report.
so lets not hate on rogers about every little thing....

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so lets not hate on rogers about every little thing....
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oh im not hating on every little thing... my phone is VERY HARD to use!

Task managers??
Hey, I found that happening to me on this new update ROM and another i was running before if I was using "Free Advanced task manager"
It would work great for a while, then start force closing.
Just restarted phone, by removing batter because the FC's were so constant, and then downloaded another app for that duty. Running fast and smooth now.
Hope this is your issue and not something more.

Force close...
I recently ran into another issue where having the full page weather widget would send the system into instant FC as soon as it tried to load the weather...
Honestly I'm still not sure what the problem was there but I ended up just switching "scenes" and it worked fine on another scene.
Simple but odd...

havent had any f/c since the update but the rogers rom SUX big time, my phone is slow as hell, no voice dialer and to be honest i dont really like sense UI very much
kicking myself for giving up root access for this lousy "update"

If the Rogers ROM is slow on your phone, there is indeed something wrong because it actually is very fast. It's the same as the HTC EU 3.05 update, the Rogers version just has a few Rogers apks added. I have tried the EU 3.05, the Rogers 3.05 and Cursorsense and I honestly couldn't tell which one was the fastest (Cursorsense maybe but it's so close that it's almost unnoticeable)
My guess about those speed problems and FC is that the old data is messing things up... I'd make a backup of my stuff and try to wipe the data (and as you don't have root : settings->sdcard and memory->factory reset should give the same result). If it doesn't help I'd then try to reinstall the update.

if u are using a taskkiller on your phone, make sure its not killing any of the tasks that are required for the rom to run, e.g HTC checkin Service, if the taskiller is killing the required services, it can lead to alot of random force closes

How to properly do backups/retores with CWR

Ok so i started this thread as a result of what happen to me. He is my story, i was on Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/Voodoo and of course i had that backed up along with Bionix 1.9.1 w/Voodoo and JI6 w/One Click Lag Fix. I was having issues with a app (Beautiful Widgets) where i was trying to have the weather how up on the notification bar but it would not come up automatically unless you went into the app and selected "save & apply" every singe time, very anoying. I contacted the developer of the app and the last thing he asked was if i was running the stock launcher. Since Fusion uses Launcherpro i decided to restore my JI6 w/One Click Lag Fix. To my shock when i ran the restore i ended up on Android System Recovery and could not get pass that even if i tried using the other 2 restore points (Bionix Fusion 1.1 w/Voodoo, Bionix 1.9.1 w/Voodoo).
I posted my problem in the Q&A section hoping for a solution but of course i got nothing back, so i found a thread regarding someone being stuck on the Android System Recovery screen just like me. It was mentioned to use Eugenes Froyo that does not brick and then flash the stock JFD rom. After many attempts i finally got my phone up and running but little did i realize that my entire phone got wiped clean, meaning i lost all my songs (over 100) 2 .avi movies, a few wallpapers and all the different Roms and Mods i had installed. Basically my phone ended up just when i first bought it. I was very upset i lost everything but glad that i got my phone up and running again..
So what to do to avoid this? when doing a back up using CWR and if you are running Voodoo, MAKE SURE YOU DISABLE VOODOO BEFORE BACKING ANYTHING AND THEN SAME THING GOES FOR WHEN RESTORING, MAKE SURE VOODOO IS DISABLE. I believe this is a very important point to note but no one has ever mentioned it anywhere in the forum. Yes they advise to do backups before doing anything, they advise to disable Voodoo before flashing anything but never this. If i had known this i wouldn't have spent hours freaking out and wondering what was wrong and looking all over the place and waiting for someone to help me out.
Now i have to spend more time installing everything that i lost and getting my phone back to the way i had it before this happened. I hope this helps and that maybe it goes up in the sticky so people can easily find it.
I would like to thank jdkackley for bring up the fact that Voodoo needs to be disabled while backing and restoring.
P.S. i still can not get the weather to come up automatically on the notification bar, still in constant contact with the dev of Beautiful Widgets app.

I'm assuming you checked "Temperature Notification" in settings.... You didn't say. Are you restoring app + data each time you flash a new rom and not changing the settings of BW's?
I dont understand why you would need to keep going in and clicking save and apply... have you deleted the app, and the downloaded it again?

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I'm assuming you checked "Temperature Notification" in settings.... You didn't say. Are you restoring app + data each time you flash a new rom and not changing the settings of BW's?
I dont understand why you would need to keep going in and clicking save and apply... have you deleted the app, and the downloaded it again?
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Yes i did click the "Temperature Notification" and still nothing, every time i restart my phone i wait about 10 minutes and nothing so i have to go into the app and click save & apply, i have also un-installed and re-installed the app and same issues. Thank you for your insight, i still have not heard from the dev in regards to me running the app on the stock launcher so i just have to wait and see what he/she says.
But the main reason of the thread was because it has not been mentioned about how to properly backup/restore if you are running Voodoo.

Do you have any apps like a task manager or autostarts?

s15274n said:
Do you have any apps like a task manager or autostarts?
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only task manager i have is the one that came with the Fusion 1.1 rom nothing else and no auto starts.
EDIT: ok it seems to be working but i only get the temperature in the notification bar about 10-15 minutes after the phone is turned on and is finished with the boot sequence, i thought it should come on automatically. E-mailed the dev on this and waiting for a reply.

I just turned on the notification bar temp... rebooted.
It took about 4 minutes and the temp is showing up.
I have autostarts installed which prevents a lot of apps from opening on boot. Not sure if that helped with my better time. I also have BW set to refresh on wake (and the automatic refresh is like 8 hours or something long).
A great developer... I'm sure he can figure it out. You may want to ask if a logcat is needed... you may want to try an app like autostarts too (free for the 24 hour window, cant hurt).

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I just turned on the notification bar temp... rebooted.
It took about 4 minutes and the temp is showing up.
I have autostarts installed which prevents a lot of apps from opening on boot. Not sure if that helped with my better time. I also have BW set to refresh on wake (and the automatic refresh is like 8 hours or something long).
A great developer... I'm sure he can figure it out. You may want to ask if a logcat is needed... you may want to try an app like autostarts too (free for the 24 hour window, cant hurt).
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ok been keeping an eye on my phone since my last reboot 2:10 local time and it is now 2:25 local time and still nothing so i guess we can disregard my edit from last post. i will try the refresh on wake and see what happens.
EDIT: well my phone has been up for 7 minutes and still nothing, very aggravating. just have to wait on the dev.

Messaging issues on girlfriends phone

Hey all,
My girlfriends ohine has been acting up lately. Apparently she is unable to delete messages from her inbox. It will start the process and the screen darkens up with the busy animation going but never completes. It also has been sending out duplicate messages (i received three copies of one message). She has also been complaining that it has been lagging lately. It is bone stock. I havent tinkered with it yet, and am not worried about doing so (running a rooted fascinate with froyo, have succesfully loaded and removed voodoo, etc). Her complaints seem to revolve around the messaging though. It hangs and sometimes freezes when she is compsing text messages, and/or trying to delete messages. Any suggestions on where to start? Not really looking to root if it can be avoided.

did you try restarting the phone?

That was my first suggestion. Internal mem seemed pretty low, had her dump the unnecessary apps and still no luck.
Mmmmm...Froyo!

are you using the built in messaging app or a downloaded one?

Built in. She doesn't use it much outside of the messaging and making phone calls. Nothing too crazy as far as apps go. Just games and the like.

Maybe try handcent or chompSMS.
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L551 said:
Maybe try handcent or chompSMS.
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try that, and also try deleting the messages or threads one at time

I found that deleting huge threads, regardless of the messaging app being used, caused the phone to freeze. Googled the problem and it seems to be a known issue among HTC devices. I ended up installing an app from the market called "delete old messages".
Have her run that at night while she sleeps. Its a bit of a slow process but once it finished deleting about 15-20k texts, I noticed a HUGE improvement in terms of phone response and the lag I was experiencing all but disappeared.
Hope that helps!
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thinkhope said:
I found that deleting huge threads, regardless of the messaging app being used, caused the phone to freeze. Googled the problem and it seems to be a known issue among HTC devices. I ended up installing an app from the market called "delete old messages".
Have her run that at night while she sleeps. Its a bit of a slow process but once it finished deleting about 15-20k texts, I noticed a HUGE improvement in terms of phone response and the lag I was experiencing all but disappeared.
Hope that helps!
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I had to do the same thing. I run it at least once a week, deleting at least 500 txt's each time. Great free app.

Had the same problem with HTC Sense. Once I rooted and went to CM, I haven't had any troubles. That's my only suggestion.
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thinkhope said:
I found that deleting huge threads, regardless of the messaging app being used, caused the phone to freeze. Googled the problem and it seems to be a known issue among HTC devices. I ended up installing an app from the market called "delete old messages".
Have her run that at night while she sleeps. Its a bit of a slow process but once it finished deleting about 15-20k texts, I noticed a HUGE improvement in terms of phone response and the lag I was experiencing all but disappeared.
Hope that helps!
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It doesn't not freeze it just lags a lot. That happens when like you said- when the thread is big. Apparently smartphone are slow deleting messages. I had a Windows Mobile phone before and it had exactly the same problem. Have ever tried restoring 1500 SMS with a backup app? It takes like half an hour. So it's not a issue, it's just the way the phone works when it comes to SMS

GB debloating: removing "blur_yahoo.apk" breaks contacts.

I just spent some time trying to figure out what had broken my contacts functionality and this was it. Again, removing "blur_yahoo.apk" and the associated .odex file will break the contacts app. After removal, clicking on a contact in the dialer/contact app will just shut the app down. I've no idea why, since the yahoo app is for yahoo mail.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.

JagoX said:
F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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Hm, I deleted all of the messaging/social stuff and my moto text app (conversations.apk) still works...
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Really? Hmm...might be something else then that you'd think wouldn't affect it but does.

guys which apps should i delete that won't mess with the software....that will get rid of the bloatware

smyers1012 said:
won't mess with the software
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense

JagoX said:
Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional

smyers1012 said:
like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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You should probably do some more research before you start messing with that b/c it can brick the OS requiring a full install of the ROM. In this case, if you don't do a restore before removing stuff you'll be restoring the SBF file a lot.
But to answer your question though...the app you want is Titanium Backup Pro (aka the pay version b/c of the "Freeze" option.)

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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze

smyers1012 said:
im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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Well since the GB build for the DX just came out, I haven't been able to find a definitive thread anywhere (including on MyDroidWorld) listing what is save to remove or at least freeze. As of right now I think it's safe to say that its going to be a trial and error situation.

There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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johnclevenger said:
There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me

Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...

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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)

JagoX said:
Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
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I removed all the messaging crap except the default messaging app (conversations.apk). I use Google Voice so I don't use the default app, but I sent myself a message using it and it worked just fine.
Note: you can do a data wipe/factory reset from within clockwork and you'll be fine.
If someone can produce a list of everything in /system/app (well, just the .apks would do), I can mark the ones I've successfully removed without problems.

Ditto to that...I'd be happy to contribute what I've frozen.

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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.

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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.

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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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You're right. I just timed it. About 38 seconds from red M to full appearance of desktop (I've got the boot animation disabled) and about 25 seconds from full desktop to all widgets loaded and ready to go. I underestimated by 40-60%! I'm using the blur launcher, btw.

Something must be wrong with mine then...because mine lasts a good 3 to 4 minutes...and that seems very long for services to be starting...
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[Q] Some problems with a stock (non-rooted) EVO...

Ok, so my girlfriend is having some problems with her phone and I thought I could swing some of this stuff by the board members for some expertise...
So basically what happened was, she was having some problems with her phone working very slow and getting laggy after compiling way too many text messages on her phone. When she tried to delete some of these text messages the phone wouldn't let her for some weird reason. She then took the phone in to some some sprint store and whoever worked on this thing told her he was going to wipe them directly from the SD card...
Ever since she is having problems where her phone won't even register when someone calls her... no ring, no screen pop-up, but she'll have a missed call notification when she misses the call...
The only other weird thing that I know of is I tried downloading a dj set for her on her phone over a wifi connection (around 55 MB) and it keeps saying download failed... I successfully did this for two other people on their phones as well as my own...
Any help would be appreciated, especially since she will love me to death if I can fix this for her... lol

I would sugest full wipe, that usually fixes lots of issues.
Do backup of her contacts and apps, turn off the phone and start up holding -vol and power bttn. than choose clear storage. That will bring the phone to the original stage like it come out from the box.

no need to backup contacts really they should be stored on her google account

I know she'll ask me this one... will she lose her pictures and stuff???
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DjKurt said:
I know she'll ask me this one... will she lose her pictures and stuff???
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Pictures are stored on the SD card, so no.
If she has Angry Birds progress she wants to save, there are apps for that and they don't require root.
If she has a ton of apps, that could be slowing her phone down. Have her reinstall apps as she needs them instead of all at once.
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