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Very Strange Audio Output problem on the 2.5mm Jack

Hi,
I've noticed an audio output distortion of some frequencies when listening to music, in the sound coming out of the 2.5mm jack.
When the speakers on the device is used, there is no problem.
When I plug the headphone, there is sound output, I hear the music, but some frequencies are lowered so much that I can't hear the singers voice. When I unplug, the speakers work fine and I can hear the singer again.
In additon that, most of the background instruments can be heard as well as the backvocals, if they are female.
It's like the sound is being processed (like an equalizer) when I plug the headphone, some frequencies are lowered, given some echo, reverb etc.
I don't understand how this is possible. I am thinking of a hardware contact problem, but it's hard to believe if this is a hw problem.
I've tried two firmwares (2.16.x, 2.25.11.1) and made hard reset also. No result.
Any ideas?
Note: I can try to actually record the sound tonight if anyone wants to hear.
Best regards,
Fast

maybe try a different headset first?....could be a short in the cable, because what you are describing is a phasing issue with the headset speakers......

Thanks for the response Kiru,
Just tried a different headset plugging it into my HAMA 2.5 --> 3.5 adapter. same result.
I will try the original headphone came with the Wizard. If the source of the problem is the HAMA adaptor, this should resolve it. (i hope it is)
Could you please elaborate on the "phasing issue" ?

fastguy said:
Could you please elaborate on the "phasing issue" ?
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Hmm....how can I explain.....Let's start with the speaker itself. A speaker has two terminals on it, one postive and one negative. What we want is to have the positve from the source (ie. Amplifier) to the positive terminal of the speaker, and the same for the negative. Since there is a pair of speakers, we want them to be hooked-up correctly. If hook-up correctly then the speakers are in phase with each other, and this is called constructive interference, hence in phase. When ONLY ONE of the speakers is hooked-up backwards, we call this destructive interference, hence being out of phase. Being out of phase causes frequencies to cancel or sound muffled. Hope you kind of get what I mean, but I highly doubt that this is the problem with headphones because heaphones nowadays rarely get manufactured with this problem. This is just the electrical part of phasing. Also, you can have one speaker, and it could sound out of phase because of the distance it is firing from walls or the shape of the room due to the reflections of sound, this is called acustical phasing.
A short in the cable, meaning the positve and negative wire are somewhat touching, can cause a similar effect, and I suspect that this is problem for you. As you now state that you are using an 2.5 to 3.5 adaptor, I would agree with you that most likey you have a faulty adaptor.
Hope this helps! and keep me posted!

Hi again,
Thanks again for the explanation Kiru, I know a bit of electronics so I got the problem.
However, I'm now home and tried to original headset, no result. The same problem is existing.
This makes me believe that I've broken something inside the Wizard which shortcircuits something. I'm very dissapointed.
Maybe the only way is now to buy a stereo bluetooth headset...
Thanks for your help

Any reason that you can't return to orange for repair/replacement?

PROBLEM SOLVED
I got this unit from priceminister second hand. It's origin is not France, I don't have a purchase receipt neither.
By the way, I solved the problem. I disassambled the unit using the info given in one of the posts in the forum. I played a little with the contacts, there was oxidation in the outer solders, i cleared them up etc, it 's working at the moment.
I'll post some pictures afterwards.
and I hope i will be able to reassamble it, I already have a piece of thing which I don't know where to put

I got the same problem. Was working fine for 2 months then all of a sudden the headphone plug is all messed up. Volume is all distorted I can sometimes hear a song but quality is no where near the original. Usually everything sounds echoed. I think something is wrong with the plug

I've had the same problem. The headphone jack on the Wizard is crap. If you have your Wizard in your pocket with an adapter, as you move, the adapter pries back and forth on the jack. This breaks the cheap jack.
If you want to listen to your Wizard as an music player, you should invest in a nice set of bluetooth headphones and only plug the jack in when the wizard won't be moved around a lot, like a home or car stereo.
I recommend Nextlink Spider headphones. They double as a headset and you can navigate through your library with the button on them.

MUSIC Speed
I got the same problem here. The SE stereo btooth headset isnt yet in our place.
Anyway, i experienced this one with ROM2.16 Imate. The sound speed or music speed seems to being played faster than normal. But when i tried to plug the 2.3-3.5 adopter and quickly pull it out, the sound is played in normal speed then. strange.....

are you all sure that the wizard has a stereo output ? I thought it was mono.
Anyway you can get earpieces and headphones with a 2.5mm jack so you don't need a 2.5-3.5mm adapter.
Maybe the contacts on your jack are not connecting properly with the internal contacts of your adaptor

Jabra BT8010 Headset

Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.

I have a Jabra BT620s, which is also A2DP. It is total crap. I would look at a different brand. Motorola headsets are supposed to work well.

Jabra BT8010 and Tilt
joshuah82 said:
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
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I have the 8010 and it with all due respect to the previous poster, it works great. I have used it with the original shipped ROM and several cooked ROMS (Currently on Sleuth's 6.1 ver 3) and it worked well with all of them. I will say it seems to work the best (longer distance from the PPC) with the radio included in Sleuth's 6.1

Can either of you provide more specific information about the issues you had with it? I've never had a bluetooth headset before so I might not even notice.

My BT620s sounded like a bad record. The pitch kept shifting very subtly, but it is INSANELY annoying and makes it completely un-listenable. Also, it would drop audio for about 5 seconds of every minute, which is very annoying. It had trouble with pairing, when you turned it off, it would sometimes refuse to re-connect to the phone. The call quality with it was OK though. I sold mine and bought a pair of Motorolas.

i have the bt8010 (only for a week) and the head set is pretty good
i have had the headset cut out on me i think there is interference from the cell or wifi. but it doesn't happen all the time. the battery life is good i have played at least 9 hours of music (stereo) straight before it need a charge. the sound quality is ok, there is some distortion on the extreme high and low notes.
but it is wireless
the headset need to be angled in a upward angle in order to be conformable (at least for me) i was able to were it for 3 hours with out a problem
the cord between the ears some times get pulled by twisting my neck, it's about 1 inch too long
i have used it in a noisy production floor and the person on the other side head me fine, a little downed out but they didn't hear the hum of the loud machine in the background and because i had the stereo on i head him better then on my phone, and yes you do hear the person on both right and left sides.
i was going to get a Motorola (mono) one but i got this one because the talk time and standby life is longer (according to specs) and this one has stereo option.
this is the only headset that you could switch from work to play
i am happy with it, and other around me like it.
btw i got mine refurbished.

I have the BT8010. I've had it for about 7 to 8 months now, maybe longer.
I really do not like the headset at all. It has great sound so don't get me wrong. If sound is all you are interested in then go for it. But if you are looking for fit or the ear loops to stay on then they aren't the ones.
For me, the fit for me is horrible and the headset hurts because I have small ears.
SECOND and this is the BIGGEST LET DOWN, the ear loops keep falling out.
So if you get it go ahead and call and order some extras right away. You can contact them via phone I think and they will send you a few. Just keep one in your wallet and one in the car and some @ home, and some in your briefcase.
The ear loops fall out way too easy for my tastes. I'm currently looking for another set of A2DB enabled headsets.

I use it for some 4 month. Mostly monoaural. It's ok, but...
Pros: VERY good sound quality (noise reduction, environment supression), good battery lifetime (up to 3 days), clear display, handy controls.
Cons: the ear hanger (? sorry for my english) slips out from the unit causing unit to fall, fast dial numbers are too short (cannot add cell codes e.g. enabling my phone number identification before dial number), does not fit perfectly into the ear - the sound is good when I puch it with my finger toward my ear, but listening to the music is a bit painful (not full spectrum due to distance between speaker and ear-hole that cannot be, at least in my case, adjusted).
Overall: good design/performance. Better quality then BT800 (my previous earphone). Cannot be securely and properly adjusted toward ear.

has anyone got more insight on this headset... i am looking in purhcasing it.

I use the 8010. The only complaint I had was the ear hook kept falling out, like the poster above. What I did was to superglue the hook in. Now, it doesn't fall, and it fit tighter to the ear, making it better to hear conversations and music. I lost one of the hooks before, and when I called jabra to order another set of hooks, they sent me out a Free pair, no ? asked, so support is great. Now, you can find the headset at a very good price. I paid $100 for mines, you can find them for $40-60.

Jabra BT8010 connection
I also have problems with the ear loop falling out. But it's not that often.
What I find annoying is that it doesn't automatically connect to my HTC prophet as stereo headphones when I switch the Jabra to music mode. I have to manually go into bluetooth settings and click on Jabra BT8010 to set as stereo headphones. Does anyone have a fix for this? If I don't do the above steps, AVRCP is able to work, but music will still come out of the phone. It would be nice if I can just listen to music with a push of the mode button without having to fumble for my phone.

i have em .. and to be honest i cant really complain
the only problem ive actually had is like everyone else has mentioned...the ear loop comming off..but thats so small in comparison to what they have to offer.
imo :
the sync from my car to my home bt system is awesome!
the clarity is superb
volume, settings, caller id and the phonebook work flawlessly..and to top it off i got em off of ebay for 25 bucks brand new with a reciept..
cant beat it!

i ahve jabra bt620s and sound is too low, how can i increase the sound on bt headset

the best bluetooth I know so far is Itech. They don't sell here but you can find it on ebay. A2DP, bluetooth stereo, cliping on you cloth, looks like a ipod shuttle on you collar.

Headset Jack broken?

Well.. I've got a problem:
Today I wanted to use my Samsung headset that came with the S2, plugged it in, and the music sounded wierd. Like there was an echo, or if all my music was a karaoke version..
Turns out:
Non-Headset headphones work perfectly, but the "3-ringed-jack" headset does not work! I do not have another headset to test this, but the headset works @my pc (got a connector for that..)
So the 3.5mm jack at my S2 seems to be broken?
I will try a software reset (right now I am @stock rom+root) and then send it to Amazon. Anyone heard of that problem or got some ideas?
Breece
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Reset didnt help, but the headset does *not* work on my Nexus one (same problem) but my BH905i do not work on both phones with the 3.5mm jack (the one that has "3 rings")

Did you push the pin in far enough?
For 3 weeks I didn't know I had to push it hard into the jack, until it clicks. After that, it was perfect. I'm using Ultimate ears 220vi, 3 ring.

That has to be the pin. you must give it a good press to seat it properly.

The SGS2 headset jack is a bit 'finicky'. Some aux cables / headsets work, some sound funny or do not work and yes, one has to ensure it is really pushed in firmly.

I pushed as if my life depended on it Just last week the headset worked...

kaotickelly said:
Did you push the pin in far enough?
For 3 weeks I didn't know I had to push it hard into the jack, until it clicks. After that, it was perfect. I'm using Ultimate ears 220vi, 3 ring.
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The same thing happened to me, but I noticed ealier.

I re-installed the firmware but nothing seems to help. I guess its hardware..
Will send it back to Amazon today...
Maybe the headset is broken after all, who knows

Just an update:
Has been @ the amazon repair center for two days and apparently something did indeed brake in the hardware... atleast it says on the homepage "being repaired"
Now I hope the S2 will be back soon.. want to flash 2.3.4

Shoot I was just about to ORDER a replacement Audio Jack, until I read the second poster reply. For me, my headset worked only by wiggling the cable around into the audio jack in order to finally hear sound (had do this every single time and was very annoying), the audio did sound distorted and the mic would never work :-(
I personally thought that I inserted the cable in the audio jack as hard I could (after many attempts having this phone for 2 months)
but after reading kaotickelly's reply, I noticed i never EVER heard a click before inserting the cable in the jack throughout many attempts.
So I put my "trying to over protect my phone" ignorance aside, and FORCED the dam thing in, and it clicked!!! not only did I forced it, but I didn't scratch or break phone as i feared, Headset sounded correctly without any distortion and microphone worked!
Unlike Breece, my audio jack now works and I got to UPDATE to 2.3.4! (Don't take it personal)
GOOD-LOOKING OUT KAOTICKELLY!

Earphones give Commands to phone

This might sound strange, but when i still used to use my old HD2 earphones with the little buttons to go to next track, answer phone etc. it was obviously able to send commands to my phone that way.
Now i dont use them anymore and use Sennheiser ones instead, no buttons, just earphones.
but when they move in the 3.5mm jack sometimes they enable Shuffle or keep switching through tracks extremely fast.
I dont need my HD2 to be able to get commands from the 3.5mm jack is there ANY way to get rid of this?
its driving me nuts.

IndigoHD said:
This might sound strange, but when i still used to use my old HD2 earphones with the little buttons to go to next track, answer phone etc. it was obviously able to send commands to my phone that way.
Now i dont use them anymore and use Sennheiser ones instead, no buttons, just earphones.
but when they move in the 3.5mm jack sometimes they enable Shuffle or keep switching through tracks extremely fast.
I dont need my HD2 to be able to get commands from the 3.5mm jack is there ANY way to get rid of this?
its driving me nuts.
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ha ha ha !!!i dont know what to say...sorry !

IndigoHD said:
I dont need my HD2 to be able to get commands from the 3.5mm jack is there ANY way to get rid of this?
its driving me nuts.
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This has come up several times this past 18months, myself included with a low end pair of sennheisers that (under winmo) scroll thru my call history and select dial randomly. (Called up an ex gf in Australia once, lol. I had no idea till days later when i saw her in the call log.)
In my case, it seemed to get worse as the phone warmed up, adding weight to my suspicion (guess) that it is caused by signal bleeding into the wrong pickups, maybe a fractionally misaligned jack during construction, perhaps a noisy signal from a dodgy soldering job tricking the phone into thinking it has the third pickup and is a headset. I even half noticed that it would be more likely to happen with particular mp3's, but didnt really study it much, i just used different 'phones until i moved to android.
Under android, however, they work fine. I use them daily.

It does not matter wether i use Android or Windows Mobile.
It has happened on both.
Can this be disabled somehow?
There must be software in the phones operating system that enables it to interpret these commands that are recieved. Can it not somehow be disabled then?

on my nokia n95 i could set the default accessory profile, but i dont remember seeing anything similar in winmo, and cant see anything in the cm7 rom im on currently.

Before you get all tied up with hardware.
If the headphones don't support the options, then the most likely source of your problem is dust/debris in the headset port, try a bright torch and have a look, it only take a very small amount to raise the plug a fraction of an inch and cause these types of issues.
Make sure the battery is out before you insert a pin or someting to loosen any muck
This used to be a common problem befor larger smart phones came along, especialy for the guys, keeping phones in dusty pockets

Headphone jack failing? I don't know...

So, I'm running into an extremely annoying problem with my G2. Just the slightest touch causes my headphone jack to stop sensing properly.
Example: I'll be listening to Google Music and i'll just ever so slightly move my headphone cable near the base of the 3.5mm headphone plug and suddenly the audio will stop as if I have unplugged my headphones. Yet, my headphones are still snapped in and once I press play again, the music continues on as if nothing has happened.
Some times my phone will go from headphones and speaker...headphones and speaker, headphones and speaker. It's as if it doesn't know my headphones are plugged in.
We are talking super light touching here. Any rotation of the plug while connected will cause it to fail. Simply picking up the phone will cause audio to suddenly stop. I'd be willing to bet that by simply blowing on the damn plug would cause it to fail. Hell, even a fart in the plugs direction would probably cause it to fail. That's how light of a touch I'm talking about here. Also, tapping and rotating the headphone plug while it's plugged in would cause Google Voice search to launch. Super weird.
I don't get whats going on. I see know damage in the headphone input...everything looks fine. I've babied this thing since it has arrived. It has been in a case ever since.
My headphones are good because I've tried them on multiple sources. Plugging in different headphones in to my G2 causes the same problems still. I've tried switching ROMs but the same thing still happens.
I'm at a loss here. I need some advice on what to do. Should I just call Verizon and get a replacement phone? Do I need to unroot to do that?
What a pain in the ass.

Sushiglobster said:
So, I'm running into an extremely annoying problem with my G2. Just the slightest touch causes my headphone jack to stop sensing properly.
Example: I'll be listening to Google Music and i'll just ever so slightly move my headphone cable near the base of the 3.5mm headphone plug and suddenly the audio will stop as if I have unplugged my headphones. Yet, my headphones are still snapped in and once I press play again, the music continues on as if nothing has happened.
Some times my phone will go from headphones and speaker...headphones and speaker, headphones and speaker. It's as if it doesn't know my headphones are plugged in.
We are talking super light touching here. Any rotation of the plug while connected will cause it to fail. Simply picking up the phone will cause audio to suddenly stop. I'd be willing to bet that by simply blowing on the damn plug would cause it to fail. Hell, even a fart in the plugs direction would probably cause it to fail. That's how light of a touch I'm talking about here. Also, tapping and rotating the headphone plug while it's plugged in would cause Google Voice search to launch. Super weird.
I don't get whats going on. I see know damage in the headphone input...everything looks fine. I've babied this thing since it has arrived. It has been in a case ever since.
My headphones are good because I've tried them on multiple sources. Plugging in different headphones in to my G2 causes the same problems still. I've tried switching ROMs but the same thing still happens.
I'm at a loss here. I need some advice on what to do. Should I just call Verizon and get a replacement phone? Do I need to unroot to do that?
What a pain in the ass.
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I think I might be having a similar problem as yours but with a different device (Square card reader). When I plugged it in the first few times there was a good sturdy click and it felt like it was being held in the jack well. But now it pulls out of the jack too easily, and a light touch causes the reader to disconnect. It seems like the contacts for the headphone jack may have been pressed in or something because it only maintains good contact if i hold a little pressure on the reader.
Either way, I don't like my options since I can either go on with a dysfunctional headphone jack, which might be ok since I use bluetooth more often than the jack, or I can try to get a replacement from LG which will likely be a refurb. I'm rooted too and assume I'd have to unroot in that situation. What to do...

Ever figure out your issue, OP? I'm having the same issue right now.

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Ever figure out your issue, OP? I'm having the same issue right now.
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I think I pushed the plug in too hard on mine and caused the jack to loosen. Amazon replaced the phone for me no questions asked. They continue to amaze me.