Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.
tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me
willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before
Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...
mtty may help u out
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!
Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS
gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.
use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.
HD2 unresponsive & trapped in a perpetual cycle of self deletion and re-custimization
I got my hd2 about 4 months ago and I have to say it's one of the best phones I've ever had, only now I have a serious problem with my ex =(.
Was running a slightly modified close to stock rom wwe, without problem (except the occasional freeze every other day) however, after attempting to install another room with cookie's homepage customizer, my phone keept freezing after about 5 min after the customization process was finished.
I thought this had something to do with the apps I installed just after the rom installation process. However, after some testing the same problem occur regardless if I install just the rom.
Have also tried upgrading to another newer OS version / rom & radio yet I encounter the same issue all the time; The screen will freeze and otherwise become non - responsive and after a restart the phone may not start ( freezing on windows orange screen), or it will start the customization process anew, somehow resetting all settings and stored content. .
Is my phone messed up for good? What are my options, please help!
Cheers,
Nate.
Update 25.3: SO I formated my phone with Task29 and reinstalled the 2.09 radio. Now starting to flash Kwbr_Topix_1.5.6 rom wwe. Will you know how it goes . .
Update 26.3: It's been 24 hours since I used task29, and everything seems fine. Thank you guys so much for the tip . . Now I may once again go back to using my great phone. Ty! xD
Anybody have any input?
Try using this to format your device.
Alright, thank you. I'll try that!
Do you have the autoinstall folder on you sd card? That could be causing the issues if something is in there thats not compatible anymore. Just a thought.
You mean like a ruu_signed file on the root of the storage card?
I second hicks, known problem, 90% it's just you needing a format of the internal memory with the task 29 utility
I've had the same problem now over a number (4 to be precise) of HD2's and it concerns the issue of Sense being unable to load causing me to have to HR and reinstall all my software and licence keys etc, its a right pain in the arse
I'd rather not change ROm's party because I'm a alittle confused by the options available
On of the items of software I THOUGHT might be the issue is CHT. I've used 1.8.5 and reverted back to 1.8 but it still happens
today it has done it again just 2 days after the last crash andI'm wondering if anyone has any ideas, such as could it be as a result of rebooting whilst connected to PC?
Most of my installed software is in the device.
All I'm looking for is a little stability
Any help would be gratefully received
Running
OS - 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila - 2.5.19211619.0
ROM - 1.66.405.2 (76641)WWE
Radio - 2.07.51.22_2
Help Please!
Hi
This usually happens due a software/application you have installed. The trouble is, you cant tell which one it is.However, with my experience, im quite sure its always linked to a tweak application and not an application on its own.Only suggestion I can give is probably to install each system tweak cab seperatley and do soft reset after installing each one. This way, you may be able to tell which tweak is affecting Sense from starting.
Hope this helps.......
actually alot of sense freezes/ crashes are due to a faulty sd card. I would move everything of importance off the card and format it. Or, you can put it into a card reader and have windows do a scan and repair on it.
Also you can delete the application folder off your sd card, soft reset and try it. Sometimes that folder can cause problems (probably linked to bad sectors on the card that the folder was on).
Hi everybody,
I have got the LEO last week. I had several problems I could solve, but one big I could not solve yet.
It belongs to the Phone. After making a call, I am not able to make a second one. The application freezes, when I close it, I am not able to open the Phone again. Making a call from the history list is also sometimes something i can not do.
Can please somebody help me? Without the posibility to make easy and quickly calls the LEO is for me useless.
Thank You very much in advance!!!
i have the leo 4 7-8 months.never had problems.tried soft reset?if that wont help i believe that you must go 4 hard reset
maybe some program you put makes that.
If your LEO is giving so much problems within a week, you probably have a mondaymorning model.
Try to exchange it at the shop as it is not funtioning properly. (In EU this is consumer right)
If not possible,
What is it you have done to your phone allready?
You mention having problems and solved them, can you remember what you have done?
Has your phone ever funtioned without problems?
Try to do a complete factory reset or hard reset (look here)
Then format SD (first save data somewhere)
After reset/format does your phone function correctly?
Furthermore:
If you install apps/enhancements/skins, install all apps you need for your phone running on your device.
If you remove SD, your device should be able to startup without any problems, only applications you use besides the normal startup should reside on sd Card.
So for example:
Cookies home tab (becomes part of home screen)=> on device
Igo8 Navigator (Started manually after boot) => on sd card
Task manager (runs allways on background) => device
Games like experiment 13 => on sd card
[....]
if its brand new, get a new one, otherwise
backup
hard reset
if fixed, ok!
if not fixed,
try find an updated stock rom (if you want to stay stock) or get HSPL and flash a cooked rom.
If problem fixed, ok!
if not fixed, hardware problem.
Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?
Stano 74 said:
Thank You for the replies. In the morning I tought the problem is fixed, but is not. Can be Cookies home tab a problem?
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well it could be cookies but thousands of people use cookies so its unlikely.do you have loads of stuff installed?
also, are you restoring registry settings when you flash? because you shouldn't do that when you go to a new ROM. registry settings backup is only really for restoring to the same rom after hard reseting.
I tried to found an official ROM update for my device. I found one, but the only change is the launching date. On my device is one from 11.1.2010 and I have found one from 4.6.2010. Does it make sense to update?
Hey, first post but please, dont bite. I've spent the last 2 hours ploughing through this forum trying to find an answer to this, without success, but i have just finished 3 12 hour night shifts so my brain could be fried and i just havent seen the answer...
I've onyl recently become interested in Android having seen what a friends Galaxy S2 can do, i've been happily plodding along with a stock ROM and virtually no Apps. I got myself an 8gb Sandisk SD Card and downloaded a couple of SD Builds to try out figuring, hey at least i cant brick it!
Yesterday everything was working fine, downloaded the rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038694 - sweet as!) and after a little reading got it to boot and happily spent the boring parts of yesterdays night shift playing Mario Kart and Angry Birds like a 14 year old kid.
Went to bed, woke up and decided that i would try a new ROM today, no other reason that curiosity, but now, every time i try to copy the Andriod folder across to the SD Card on the phone, i cannot run CLRCAD.exe or haret.exe as it pops up with an error saying:
"The file CLRCAD cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists try reinstalling or restoring this file"
Hopefully someone here will have seen this before... otherwise i really am special, which i doubt...
Now, this is obviously quite annoying, and i'm hoping that there is some kind of quick fix that can be done to cure this issue, but for the life of me either my googling skills have atrophied completely, or no one else has had this issue. I'm gonna be smart and lean towards option 1...
Many thanks for any help you guys can offer, and heres a few details of the handset..
HTC HD2 on T Mobile UK
OS Version 5.2.21913
Manila Version 2.5.20181527.1
ROM Version 3.14.110.1 (04666) WWE
Radio Version 2.15.50.14
Flash Memory Size 512mb
If you need anymore information, please ask and it shall be forthcoming.
Many thanks
Dubz
Well, this thread can be deleted, i solved the issue by installing a NAND build and fecking WinMo off completely...
Thanks..
Dubz