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Version 3.1.8 of Google Voice Search was just released with huge changes. One of them appears to be that it's now fully compatible with the Kindle Fire HDX (except for the Google Now cards).
Most people confuse Google Now cards with Voice Search, and indeed, most of the features that most people like about "Google Now" are actually Voice Search features--and now available on the HDX. I've downloaded and tested, and I'm able to:
* Request Google searches via voice
* Ask "Where is (Walmart, Post Office, etc.)?" and it pulls up a map.
* Tell it to set an appointment and it does.
* Asked trivia questions ("Who is Barack Obama?" and the voice instantly gives me a short bio).
* Set reminders
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richbrown68 said:
Version 3.1.8 of Google Voice Search was just released with huge changes. One of them appears to be that it's now fully compatible with the Kindle Fire HDX (except for the Google Now cards).
Most people confuse Google Now cards with Voice Search, and indeed, most of the features that most people like about "Google Now" are actually Voice Search features--and now available on the HDX. I've downloaded and tested, and I'm able to:
* Request Google searches via voice
* Ask "Where is (Walmart, Post Office, etc.)?" and it pulls up a map.
* Tell it to set an appointment and it does.
* Asked trivia questions ("Who is Barack Obama?" and the voice instantly gives me a short bio).
* Set reminders
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291677104
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.....and just like that, it's now stopped working.
richbrown68 said:
Version 3.1.8 of Google Voice Search was just released with huge changes. One of them appears to be that it's now fully compatible with the Kindle Fire HDX (except for the Google Now cards).
Most people confuse Google Now cards with Voice Search, and indeed, most of the features that most people like about "Google Now" are actually Voice Search features--and now available on the HDX. I've downloaded and tested, and I'm able to:
* Request Google searches via voice
* Ask "Where is (Walmart, Post Office, etc.)?" and it pulls up a map.
* Tell it to set an appointment and it does.
* Asked trivia questions ("Who is Barack Obama?" and the voice instantly gives me a short bio).
* Set reminders
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291677104
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Previous 2.8 version was also working for me with voice. Google Now cards don't work but the notifications do show up.
Android Cowboy said:
Previous 2.8 version was also working for me with voice. Google Now cards don't work but the notifications do show up.
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I found out what was causing it to crash on me: Somehow Google Play Services seemed to cause force-closes. Once I deleted it from the Fire, Google Voice Search works like a charm once more.
richbrown68 said:
I found out what was causing it to crash on me: Somehow Google Play Services seemed to cause force-closes. Once I deleted it from the Fire, Google Voice Search works like a charm once more.
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Probably needs the updated Google Play Services. I will install that and see what that does and if Voice works with it.
Android Cowboy said:
Probably needs the updated Google Play Services. I will install that and see what that does and if Voice works with it.
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I still think effort should be put into finding a newer version of the "google services framework" than the 4.0.4 version used elsewhere. I tried extracting from another device, but was not sucessful. I guess it tries to install to /system or something like that. But considering that there is a 4.0.4 version that works (kinda, except for the FC's) i have hope that someone who knows their stuff would be able to provide a 4.2.2 version that is installable on our HDX's
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I still think effort should be put into finding a newer version of the "google services framework" than the 4.0.4 version used elsewhere. I tried extracting from another device, but was not sucessful. I guess it tries to install to /system or something like that. But considering that there is a 4.0.4 version that works (kinda, except for the FC's) i have hope that someone who knows their stuff would be able to provide a 4.2.2 version that is installable on our HDX's
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I have Google Services Framework beyond 4.04 and even the latest but it won't even install on the Kindle Fire. It requires a higher version of Android then the Kindle. I was able to get Google Search 3.18 to work with the latest Play Services. I was also able to install the Google Launcher from KitKat. It works fine but wallpaper doesn't work.
Android Cowboy said:
I have Google Services Framework beyond 4.04 and even the latest but it won't even install on the Kindle Fire. It requires a higher version of Android then the Kindle. I was able to get Google Search 3.18 to work with the latest Play Services. I was also able to install the Google Launcher from KitKat. It works fine but wallpaper doesn't work.
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I see. Thanks
How did you install the launcher successfully? I tried, but it kept complaining that google search was not installed (even though it was installed & working).
On another note, i found out that you can actually uninstall google services framework AFTER you have signed in to your apps, and voila: no more FC's It seems to preserve login & functionality info even after a reboot (but i just have gmail, youtube & chrome beta installed as they are the only gapps i intend to use regularly)
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I see. Thanks
How did you install the launcher successfully? I tried, but it kept complaining that google search was not installed (even though it was installed & working).
On another note, i found out that you can actually uninstall google services framework AFTER you have signed in to your apps, and voila: no more FC's It seems to preserve login & functionality info even after a reboot (but i just have gmail, youtube & chrome beta installed as they are the only gapps i intend to use regularly)
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You need to install the latest Play Services which then makes Search work which then makes Launcher work. Grab the files from here under latest Google apps.
Android Cowboy said:
You need to install the latest Play Services which then makes Search work which then makes Launcher work. Grab the files from here under latest Google apps.
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Heh, i thought i did that, but apprantly not... Now it works! Thanks
I may be slow on the uptake, but I was surprised this morning to see that I could get the "OK Google" hot keywords to automatically activated Google Search....as quickly as on any device I've ever owned.
Google Now also works fine with all cards. I have every app working WITHOUT losing any Amazon services *EXCEPT* Play Store. I do have every other app, including Hangouts & G+ working 100% & I can start Play Store & login, but it is being closed by the intent proxy. I am working on a solution to that as i have time.
I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.
works for me
Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.
Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.
Found a gmail apk that works
Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.
mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
Burr11 said:
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.
That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
Davey126 said:
If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.
You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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Here is the problem, and I have been looking on various sites and forums but thought I would take a peek on XDA and surprised that there isn't much chatter about it in here so wanted to start this thread.
For a few months now I cannot access "Google Now" .
I am running a Rooted Sprint Note 3 and still using Josh's KitKat Killer. Its a GREAT ROM and had been working fine until about Decemberish. Whenever I click on the Google Now Cards, or press the Google App Icon, I get a brief opening of the page with Weather Map and Events etc. but as soon as it loads it crashes out.
I can access a pure voice command search through my Widget to set an alarm, get the weather etc...
I cant help but Note (get it? NOTE!!! Ha!!) but it would seem to have happened at the same time Google Assistant broke onto the scene en masse back in December or so. Coincidence??? hmmmmmmmmmm
I have another phone that also had this problem, (Galaxy S4 Running Lollipop) and quite honestly couldn't get Google to work until I flashed a Nougat ROM and launched the new Google Assistant. I wonder if they are tired of supporting these older phones and are going to force people to up their game by making them upgrade to Nougat phones.
I have seen lots and lots and lots of 'help' sites talk about how if you 'Clear Cache/Uninstall/Re-install/Update' etc that it will work. That is A LIE! And don't talk to me about using the Google Now Launcher (which I am not that thrilled with) because that does not even seem to make a difference either. I have been, and currently using Nova Launcher. The whole process of Install/Uninstall/Install only works once then as soon as it gets a chance to load the data you are back to being screwed. It wont even stay open long enough to access the page to delete/alter/change settings. Very very frustrating.
I cant believe there inst rioting in the streets from millions of disgruntled Google users!!!!
So now I am just not using it. I'd like to but until then it is a hearty HELLO to S-Voice I guess.
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Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
similardilemma said:
Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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Thanks for posting this. I wondered when the final axe would fall. Well, it's simpler if GApps are not installed anyway and it was getting more and more temperamental. All the more reason for people to share packages of apps that they are using which work well on the device so we can side-load them. They can't take that away!
Does anyone know if this will affect the license check-in for paid apps? :/
Wondering about Titanium Backup Pro especially, it seems to check in on almost every boot. It would suck if we couldn't use it on the Nook Touch anymore, even though there are some clumsy alternatives.
Oops! Tried installing the 1337 ROM from 9th April 2015... No support for Android Market makes the rom unusable
Definitely backup your entire device + your original recovery before installing clockworkmod or 1337 ROM
I will now rever to stock and probably use Nook Manager to root the stock ROM.
Such a shame, I was super excited ot try out what seemed to be the best NST ROM out there
If it wasn't for ending the support for google apps, it might have been a great improvement, oh well...
Anyone with similar experience?
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Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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July 2 and I can still use SearchMarket and install market apps....wonder if working installations are going to continue hobbling along?
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
PremiumMediocre said:
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
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I'm surprised your gmail works. I could never keep mine going. It would retrieve mail OK but would only send for a few days and then have to be reinstalled to work for a few more days.
The only concern I have is GoogleBooks, but so far it's OK. I'm not sure you need Market access to sync mail or books, but down the line these older applications may be rejected as security concerns. Time will tell.
So far I see no sign of weirdness.
Edit: OK, today (July 4) my NST is officially independent of the Market. No server contact. However, Google Books still works at this point. I'm not sure you should do anything. You could uninstall SearchMarket but that's about it. After all, lots of people are signed into Google on various devices to get mail but do not access the PlayStore. Famous last words
I have disabled both MarketUpdater.apk and Vending.apk (found in /system/app) by renaming them as *.OLD. After a reboot I have seen no problems running the few apps I had actually obtained from the PlayStore or those I side-loaded. Note I do not have any for-pay apps.
It may be possible to also disable Talk.apk and any adjuncts as this is used to interface with the Market, but I'm not there yet. A good goal would be to quiet down any behind-the-scenes activity by apps that can't connect any longer but keep trying to phone home just to be sure. At the same time I'm trying to maintain sync capability so that, for example, Google Books will continue to work for as long as possible. This, it seems to me, is the only remaining reason to bother with the GApps package at all since Google Sync is enabled with it.
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
Sirius_Balzier said:
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
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See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
nmyshkin said:
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
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Thanks bro. I will try it soon :fingers-crossed:
Originally I was excited to go vanilla Android OS but as I continue to run into DUMB limitations of Google apps such as Google Calendar I begin to question my decision.
A few examples:
Google SMS app - cannot multi delete pieces of a conversation. There are other irritents as well.
Google Calendar app - cannot copy and paste an event.
Multiple Google apps - no option to not use the psudo analog clock to set time for alarms and events. For me this method is difficult to use AND I have been trying to get used to it.
I have replaced Google SMS app with Verizon but I am looking for a better replacement.
Google Calendar I am still looking for a replacement.
It seems Google apps are only partially implemented.
Suggestions?
I use Next SMS, but people also like Textra or Chomp.
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This free/no ads sms & mms app is great too!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.calea.echo
Zargone said:
Originally I was excited to go vanilla Android OS but as I continue to run into DUMB limitations of Google apps such as Google Calendar I begin to question my decision.
A few examples:
Google SMS app - cannot multi delete pieces of a conversation. There are other irritents as well.
Google Calendar app - cannot copy and paste an event.
Multiple Google apps - no option to not use the psudo analog clock to set time for alarms and events. For me this method is difficult to use AND I have been trying to get used to it.
I have replaced Google SMS app with Verizon but I am looking for a better replacement.
Google Calendar I am still looking for a replacement.
It seems Google apps are only partially implemented.
Suggestions?
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Google apps are only partially implemented. This is typical Google. They finish everything 75% of the way. Textra is probably the best SMS/MMS solution. Lots of calendars in the Play Store as well. I'd look into what's offered.
I am beginning to wonder if that is how they do Android as well...
Zargone said:
I am beginning to wonder if that is how they do Android as well...
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Pretty much.
Android OS is an "Open System". Unlike other OS, if we don't like any system apps then we can download and install any of other apps that we like.
Just frustrated and letting off a little steam. I have always used Verizon Samsung Sx products in the past and looked over the shoulder of iPhone users. Trying to get Essential to that level of functionality and perhaps gimmickry (text and enhanced voicemail apps) have me pulling my hair out as I fail every time.
If you want an iPhone, buy an iPhone. Of course the price of this phone on promo is probably the finance charge of one of the latest Apple devices.
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I have never owned an iPhone and I never will. I just admire their software polish. I despise their total control concept. That is why I have an Essential phone...
"Google Calendar app - cannot copy and paste an event."
This would be good. It does have some good repeat options though, including custom. I have used this to good effect with my 3 on/3 off work schedule, which I couldn't find in other apps. I have requested the copy/paste through the app, you should too.
Another thing, log into your Google account on a computer, your calendar is a little different and has some other options, including duplicate events.