[Q] is there worth to upgrade from KE2 to KF1? - Galaxy S II General

hi all I will just want to know is there any worth to upgrade from Ke2 to
KF1??
or can someone tell me what is difference from this 2 version?
hope anyone can answer me

shanume said:
hi all I will just want to know is there any worth to upgrade from Ke2 to
KF1??
or can someone tell me what is difference from this 2 version?
hope anyone can answer me
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ke2 good battery life
ke7 bad battery life
kf1 good battery life
no reason
if its not broken don't fix it

qwerty warrior said:
ke2 good battery life
ke7 bad battery life
kf1 good battery life
no reason
if its not broken don't fix it
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so thats mean is nothing worth to upgrade from KE2 to KF1 is battery life is the same?

shanume said:
so thats mean is nothing worth to upgrade from KE2 to KF1 is battery life is the same?[/QUOTE
According to info in Rumours regarding 2.3.4,, It is also a lot smoother, and apparently no lag at all with the home screen button and, power on and off. I have not tried this myself though...
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qwerty warrior said:
ke2 good battery life
ke7 bad battery life
kf1 good battery life
no reason
if its not broken don't fix it
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I'm on KE7 and I have great battery life, so please don't spread rumors!
GMAIL + Calender + Contacts SYNC is on.
What'sapp Sync is on.
Screen Brightness at 100% all the time.
FTP Server and SSH Server always running.
3G and wifi are on, most of the time I am near wifi.
GPS is always enabled, but obviously only used when I actually start a GPS oriented app, which only happens in the Car, connected to a charger.
Live wallpaper, Beautiful widgets with weather sync.
My phone does around 2 days.
Yes, I have some apps frozen with titanium pro.

eitama said:
I'm on KE7 and I have great battery life, so please don't spread rumors!
GMAIL + Calender + Contacts SYNC is on.
What'sapp Sync is on.
Screen Brightness at 100% all the time.
FTP Server and SSH Server always running.
3G and wifi are on, most of the time I am near wifi.
GPS is always enabled, but obviously only used when I actually start a GPS oriented app, which only happens in the Car, connected to a charger.
Live wallpaper, Beautiful widgets with weather sync.
My phone does around 2 days.
Yes, I have some apps frozen with titanium pro.
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Yeah right

eitama said:
I'm on KE7 and I have great battery life, so please don't spread rumors!
GMAIL + Calender + Contacts SYNC is on.
What'sapp Sync is on.
Screen Brightness at 100% all the time.
FTP Server and SSH Server always running.
3G and wifi are on, most of the time I am near wifi.
GPS is always enabled, but obviously only used when I actually start a GPS oriented app, which only happens in the Car, connected to a charger.
Live wallpaper, Beautiful widgets with weather sync.
My phone does around 2 days.
Yes, I have some apps frozen with titanium pro.
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Do u actually make any calls? U lost me when u said brightness 100 %!!! 2 days on full brightness...may be in another life !
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I get good battery life on ke7. WiFi is a joke it will not stay connected when u done with phone always got to turn wifi off the on again.

Please don't turn this into yet another battery life thread.

eitama said:
I'm on KE7 and I have great battery life, so please don't spread rumors!
GMAIL + Calender + Contacts SYNC is on.
What'sapp Sync is on.
Screen Brightness at 100% all the time.
FTP Server and SSH Server always running.
3G and wifi are on, most of the time I am near wifi.
GPS is always enabled, but obviously only used when I actually start a GPS oriented app, which only happens in the Car, connected to a charger.
Live wallpaper, Beautiful widgets with weather sync.
My phone does around 2 days.
Yes, I have some apps frozen with titanium pro.
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if what ur saying is true then u are from the lucky few who has 1+ day battery life
all people i have talked to with KE2 and KF1 have superb battery life and 95% of the people i know with KE7 have horrid battery life ( 8 - 12 hours some sometimes less)

eitama said:
I'm on KE7 and I have great battery life, so please don't spread rumors!
GMAIL + Calender + Contacts SYNC is on.
What'sapp Sync is on.
Screen Brightness at 100% all the time.
FTP Server and SSH Server always running.
3G and wifi are on, most of the time I am near wifi.
GPS is always enabled, but obviously only used when I actually start a GPS oriented app, which only happens in the Car, connected to a charger.
Live wallpaper, Beautiful widgets with weather sync.
My phone does around 2 days.
Yes, I have some apps frozen with titanium pro.
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thanks for this information, but this is still hard for me to choose form KE7 and KF1

shanume said:
thanks for this information, but this is still hard for me to choose form KE7 and KF1
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DONT update
nothing good will come of it
just wait for 2.3.4
rumors say its due this month

For all the skeptical people, i'll prove it.
Give me a few days to get a cycle running, with all my regular usage, and i'll post pics of everything.

eitama said:
For all the skeptical people, i'll prove it.
Give me a few days to get a cycle running, with all my regular usage, and i'll post pics of everything.
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we arnt saying ur lying
its just that VERY few people are getting great battery life with stock KE7 thats all

I got a great battery life with KE7. (I have an Exchange mailbox, a second IMAP mailbox, etc.) I just upgraded to KF1, but the baseband is still KE7.
Just testing it now.

bela said:
I got a great battery life with KE7. (I have an Exchange mailbox, a second IMAP mailbox, etc.) I just upgraded to KF1, but the baseband is still KE7.
Just testing it now.
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glad to hear about yours test on KF1

bela said:
I got a great battery life with KE7. (I have an Exchange mailbox, a second IMAP mailbox, etc.) I just upgraded to KF1, but the baseband is still KE7.
Just testing it now.
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The rom KE7 is using baseband KE4
KF1, baseband is KE7 so its nothing wrong

eitama said:
For all the skeptical people, i'll prove it.
Give me a few days to get a cycle running, with all my regular usage, and i'll post pics of everything.
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Very curious, you could do us all a favor and post a screenshot of your battery stats for now
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This sort of issue would be much easier to resolve if Samsung actually bothered to publish changelogs.

I've just updated to KF1 stock, and the big problem for me is now when I use phone keypad to find contacts it no longer displays contacts who's letters correspond to the numbers I press.
For instance putting 7, 4 in the keypad would fetch up one of my contacts in my phone as "Simon."
Anybody any ideas why this is not happening any more?

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I think Ive found the cause to the battery Drain....

Ive been working away with Artemis Ver 9.0 and Radio 2.09. The battery has been superb e.g 3 days worth. The other day I setup Windows Live and my battery drain within 10 hours of very very light useage. I was not ever sign in to messenger but hotmail must of been checking for new emails. So I got back home and logged out of live and disabled my hotmail. Now my phone has its battery life back. I cant put it down to anything else because I had full signal and nothing else running.
Also this fixed my problem with the front screen crashing.
What do you think?
Not sure if you know, but you can change the frequency and time span in which your email is checked. I'd set it to check during a specific period throughout the day, and only every hour or so, depending on your needs.
I made sure hotmail was set to manual but that didnt do anything. I think there might be some sort of bug
Baker0 said:
Ive been working away with Artemis Ver 9.0 and Radio 2.09. The battery has been superb e.g 3 days worth. The other day I setup Windows Live and my battery drain within 10 hours of very very light useage. I was not ever sign in to messenger but hotmail must of been checking for new emails. So I got back home and logged out of live and disabled my hotmail. Now my phone has its battery life back. I cant put it down to anything else because I had full signal and nothing else running.
Also this fixed my problem with the front screen crashing.
What do you think?
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I'll have to agree. with windows live active, sync set to manual, battery life was terrible.. without windows live, battery life is much better.
from 9 last night its gone down to 90%! ive used the phone alot for txting. Everyone try it whos having a problem
Breaking news, using data drains battery!
lude219 said:
Breaking news, using data drains battery!
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Thats it, I'm going to get an iPhone.
Baker0 said:
I made sure hotmail was set to manual but that didnt do anything. I think there might be some sort of bug
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well i've a cleanex hyperrom with hotmail installed and set to manual. battery lasts for 3 days on light-medium use.

Something Is Sucking the Life Out of My Battery

My Mugen EXTENDED Life battery arrived this week and I am not getting the sort of hours that I thought I would get .. I have WiFi and GPS turned off and still getting 24 hours with NO USE AT ALL .. But first....
I use Advanced Task Manager and I just turned on my Streak after not touching it for 24 hours. I go to the area where you END TASKS and I don't think there is one thing that isn't running. Even programs that I have never used since I downloaded them.
It's like my Streak is possessed. It has a mind of its own. ALSO, no matter what I do I cannot make the screen stay on for more than 10 seconds. I change it to 2 minutes but within no time at all it has gone back to the 10 second turn off.
When I end EVERYTHING I close and open Adv Task Manager and these are now running ..
Alarm Clock
Calendar
Outlook Tasks
Tasks Storage
Advanced Task Manager
I wanted my screen to stay on so I could STARE AT IT and see what starts running first, making EVERYTHING follow ..
aaarrrggghhhh ... Am I just going insane ?? I am not kidding when I said that EVERYTHING was running when I turned it on for the first time today.
Diane
CLOSED Advanced Task Manager. Played a game called Beads .. Opened Advanced task Manager .. Besides the ones that were already running .. this is what is running NOW.
Swype
Maps
Beads turns on my maps ?? Playing a game starts Swype? I guess it is a chain reaction? If the Streak checks my email something else will start? I have CNN and a few other News websites on the Streak. They started by them selves or something started them during the time the sStreak was in my purse and also one of my Twitter programs started by itself last night. ONE LAST THING. Beads was NOT running. I ended the game and it really ended. Still it turned on Maps .. or something did.
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=56881#post56881
/me smells copypasta
The Jack of Clubs said:
http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?p=56881#post56881
/me smells copypasta
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Yep .. that is MY POST also. I need an answer to my problem. Is posting in 2 forums a no-no ?? I posted here first and nobody has replied, cept you. meanwhile .. my streak is still opening random programs.
you can post as much as you like. i do recommend changing that one parameter in build.prop. dunno why that was ever set to 0.
Please check the frequency of email-fetch on your Streak. It might be so, that it checks your emails kinda every 5 minutes, which kills the battery so fast!
What rom r u using?
Maybe a factory reset N install a new rom I.e 2.2
Also has to do with refresh rates on your Widgets, I had the same problem when I got my streak back in June, I had every screen with an updating widget N it just killed my battery. Looked flash to my mates though, until then started laughing at me having to recharge all the time.
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What's the battery usage like with the dell battery maybe the extended battery are no good
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I found using the "email" app with push just chewed through my battery
When i switched to gmail i got days out of my battery
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you can post as much as you like. i do recommend changing that one parameter in build.prop. dunno why that was ever set to 0.
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I looked and don't see that to change. Someone said should we add it? My other question is what program do you use to edit those files .. seems they open and read only.
ALSO .. I will use the same name here to avoid confusion .. I actually have 'shEEEsh' on both boards. I created the other account one day because for some reason I was having problems logging in. I can't figure out how to unsubscribe.
Hey ..have the same problem...battery life sucks ..and decreased the brightness and stuff but no change ...
Being a newbie to android ..need you guyz to help..as shEEEsh pointed out ,how do u edit the build .prop file ..I used astro to open the file in text but could not find any reference to " debug.sf.hw"....need help here friends ...this is my primary phone ...and need it to run atleast for a day ....
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
Im also having this same problem, battery doesnt last for a day, it needs to be charge up 2 times atleast to last a day for just regular usage and not even heavy browsing and multi media stuffs.
Im just hoping the official 2.2 froyo will fix this issue
Right now Im getting alot of dissapointments on my Streak
rvnteck said:
Im also having this same problem, battery doesnt last for a day, it needs to be charge up 2 times atleast to last a day for just regular usage and not even heavy browsing and multi media stuffs.
Im just hoping the official 2.2 froyo will fix this issue
Right now Im getting alot of dissapointments on my Streak
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What have u setup ss your mail app ?
I'm having the same issue. Yes I have several email accounts that are checked every 15min. Maybe it's normal but my Touch Pro2 would go almost 24-hours with the same configuration. I unplugged my Streak from the charger 7 hours ago and it's at 59% right now. I am noticing the battery life is getting longer as it goes. First day the battery didn't last 6 hours and it was at 1%...
ipguy said:
What have u setup ss your mail app ?
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just my gmail and 1 yahoo account. Now Im not using it as a phone anymore and its on flight mode, its still draining its battery fast
And my shock is, I'll leave it fully charge when I go to sleep and in the morning I'll see it 47% left in its battery. Device has no sim card, on flight mode and not being use, and still consumes that much battery???
Its on DJ Steve's Froyo 2.2 v1
My last hope is the official Froyo to fix the battery drain and bluetooth headset in-call volume issue.
rvnteck said:
just my gmail and 1 yahoo account. Now Im not using it as a phone anymore and its on flight mode, its still draining its battery fast
And my shock is, I'll leave it fully charge when I go to sleep and in the morning I'll see it 47% left in its battery. Device has no sim card, on flight mode and not being use, and still consumes that much battery???
Its on DJ Steve's Froyo 2.2 v1
My last hope is the official Froyo to fix the battery drain and bluetooth headset in-call volume issue.
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Your using the gmail app for checking google mail right ? OR are u using the email app?
ipguy said:
Your using the gmail app for checking google mail right ? OR are u using the email app?
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Im using gmail app for google mail and email app for hotmail. I notice my hotmail is checking every 15mins, so I changed it to never and I uninstalled the yahoo app for my yahoo mail. right now Im charging to full charge then I'll monitor the consumption later. Then I'll report back. thanks
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Im using gmail app for google mail and email app for hotmail. I notice my hotmail is checking every 15mins, so I changed it to never and I uninstalled the yahoo app for my yahoo mail. right now Im charging to full charge then I'll monitor the consumption later. Then I'll report back. thanks
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Delete any accounts setup to use the email app and report back, i had the same problem with the email app, just creamed my battery, after switching to gmail app (fortunatly i only have gmail accounts) i got days out of my battery, not hours
I kid you not
Report back
I did a complete reset and whatever the problem was is now GONE .. After the reset I did an over night charge. Woke up Sunday with a FULL Mugen Extended battery. My son played with my Streak for hours Sunday. Mostly YouTube and internet radio. I spent lots of time re-installing all the programs and entering email accounts etc. I have my settings to NEVER turn the phone screen off because it is just annoying .. ESPECIALLY when playing a 'thinking' game.
Today has been 72 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am at 58% .. I am not going to put it on the charger until it won't start !!
using 3g data will eats your loads of battery.
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shEEEsh said:
I did a complete reset and whatever the problem was is now GONE .. After the reset I did an over night charge. Woke up Sunday with a FULL Mugen Extended battery. My son played with my Streak for hours Sunday. Mostly YouTube and internet radio. I spent lots of time re-installing all the programs and entering email accounts etc. I have my settings to NEVER turn the phone screen off because it is just annoying .. ESPECIALLY when playing a 'thinking' game.
Today has been 72 hours since I unplugged it from the charger and I am at 58% .. I am not going to put it on the charger until it won't start !!
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Is your email still setup the same as previously ?

Help..battery dead in 22 hours on standby?

So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?
tu3218 said:
So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?
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Check to make sure your Bluetooth is turned off, and your wireless is set to disconnect when screen turns off.
tu3218 said:
So I had my a500 fully charged Saturday afternoon. I go to turn it on and its dead. Something is wrong here for sure because I use to go a week on standby. I posted some pictures of what my battery life looks like. Its a straight linear decline and I can't figure it out. I'm rooted, and thinking maybe I'm trying to receive the 3.2 update and I can't due to be rooted. I checked system update and it says I'm up to date. Please, any help?
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From the pictures you've posted it does look like something is up. Awake time is supposed to coordinate more or less with Screen On time. That's a general rule of thumb. Background things will wake the tablet and work very briefly sometimes but it doesn't look like that and generally takes seconds, adding up to mere minutes in total over days of that behavior. In essence awake time is supposed to follow screen on time closely with mere pips in difference. Yours is pretty much solid.
You could be right about the update, though I don't see how or why it would cause that anomaly, since it doesn't try to check for the update if the wifi is off, and even if the wifi is on it doesn't download it unless you tell it to. Plus, you can always turn off the automatic/scheduled check entirely.
Other issues I can come up with are net' related (stuck weather update, account sync, browser sync, picture sync, etc.) but are all invalidated since your wifi use is not that bad. I'm thinking any of these would trigger your wifi to stay on.
What's left, perhaps a rogue task manager? Something that's killing a necessary task which is then quickly restarted and so the loop goes on till your battery dies. If I can think of anything else I'll post it.
My only recommendation for now is to stop any task manager you have running, as well as locale or tasker if you have those. Restarting and then seeing how things fare after a day of standby.
i have similar situation.......
battery drain on my HoneyVillain 1.2 with Richard's Kernel is unbelievable.
It is not keeping even a half day. With Honeycomb 3.1 or 3.0 it was much much better.
What i see right now:
- on the battery usage graph i see that "Screen" is eating 80% of the battery - is it correct???
- when i'm at work, where my tablet is connected only to internal WLAN Network (no internet access) - the battery is going down much slower
What i have installed (and running in background)
- exchange mails (3 accounts - push method) with exchange widget
- simple calendar widget
- asus weather widget
- extented controls
- hacker's keyboard
looks like i got the same issue
proxonic said:
i have similar situation.......
battery drain on my HoneyVillain 1.2 with Richard's Kernel is unbelievable.
It is not keeping even a half day. With Honeycomb 3.1 or 3.0 it was much much better.
What i see right now:
- on the battery usage graph i see that "Screen" is eating 80% of the battery - is it correct???
- when i'm at work, where my tablet is connected only to internal WLAN Network (no internet access) - the battery is going down much slower
What i have installed (and running in background)
- exchange mails (3 accounts - push method) with exchange widget
- simple calendar widget
- asus weather widget
- extented controls
- hacker's keyboard
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80% is harsh but I suppose that could be correct, especially if you use the tablet a lot. Following my own tablet as an example, at any point in time my screen takes more juice than anything else on the tablet. I have my screen set to 40%. Auto brightness isn't as sensitive as I like it so it always falls to maybe 60% when I'm fine with it at 40% or so so I manually adjust that while at home.
My screen follows my awake time almost to a T.
Wifi also does seem to be eating a bit more than it did in 3.1 - maybe Acer increased the transmit/receive power in the chips so people stop having wifi connect/disconnect issues? Who knows. I've always had my wifi on 24/7 and overall it never took more than 10% of the battery from full to dying. Now it's considerably higher, 15% or more depending on how much I use the tablet.
But that 80% is still more normal than the awake time posted by the OP.
Have you tried turning down the brightness or adjusting the timeout? Indoors 30-40% is fine for me though I can go even lower, especially when I'm in bed or in the living room and the lights are off in the area. Outdoors I set it to auto or to 50/60% depending on whether I'm using it in my car or during shopping. Also, setting the perfect timeout can matter too. I set mine to 1m, but a really good practice is to set it to 30s and just set your browser or media player to keep it awake while in use. I'm too lazy to do those things
Neoprimal, thanks for the response! I just got home from work, and come greeted with what I suppose is the 3.2 update(~357mb). Now I don't know if that is my issue or not but it could have been. I'm rooted but stock everything. Am I okay to download this 3.2 update?
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Neoprimal, thanks for the response! I just got home from work, and come greeted with what I suppose is the 3.2 update(~357mb). Now I don't know if that is my issue or not but it could have been. I'm rooted but stock everything. Am I okay to download this 3.2 update?
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The 3.2 update has no root, do you have setcpu installed?
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Quick suggestion.
Try changing ROM maybe it will solve your problem.
Neoprimal, thanks for your answer.
I reflashed my iconia back to 3.1 - honeyvillain 1.05a and i have no more battery drain issue.
Screen battery usage is as well at level about 80% so as you said it seems to be normal.
I tried as well other 3.2 cooked roms like taboonay or revolver port - everywhere i got unbelievable high battery drain.
So for me it looks like 3.2 issue.
You can be right with higher wifi power consumption in terms of better signal with honeycomb 3.2.
With3.2i had all the times all stripes blue - with 3.1 signall seems to bea little weaker but anyways strong enough for the internet.
proxonic
proxonic said:
Neoprimal, thanks for your answer.
I reflashed my iconia back to 3.1 - honeyvillain 1.05a and i have no more battery drain issue.
Screen battery usage is as well at level about 80% so as you said it seems to be normal.
I tried as well other 3.2 cooked roms like taboonay or revolver port - everywhere i got unbelievable high battery drain.
So for me it looks like 3.2 issue.
You can be right with higher wifi power consumption in terms of better signal with honeycomb 3.2.
With3.2i had all the times all stripes blue - with 3.1 signall seems to bea little weaker but anyways strong enough for the internet.
proxonic
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Hey Proxonic, as you can see it can't be a '3.2 issue' because I'm on 3.2 and I don't have the issue.
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I barely used my tablet this week because my wife asked me to 'break in' her Touchpad. The brand new one she got had a massive screen problem and we didn't discover it until days later because she never used it much during the week. Pray this never happens to your A500!
Anyway, this is showing that I have my wifi off when the screen is off - the screen on times are generally when I use the tablet to start music, usually before heading to bed.
Most of the awake time is the music playing, but some is probably IM programs and apps looking for internet. I use either google music, pandora/tunein radio/iheartradio or 2player Network Music Player; the radios and 2player NMP use wifi while I've cached a couple playlist or 2 worth of google music to the tablet. I also ran a test for another thread where person(s) reported their Acer Media app turning music off when the screen goes off, I suspect that'd be that long block of awake time without wifi.
Point is though, that I don't think 3.2 has a battery drain issue. Not in regards to while the tablet is sleeping/hibernating anyway. It sounds like maybe you just have some app gobbling up either cpu cycles or something else causing it.
Glad you at least got it fixed with the ROM though.
P.S The touchpad screen, btw looks like this...keep in mind, this is on a good day. When it got bad it was just a huge black block or tons of moving lines. Did a factory reset using Webdoctor and that didn't fix it. The replacement we got seems to be fine so far. The picture's really bad, sorry - took it in the car at a shopping center.
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I have the same issue I am 100% stock on mine and ever since the 3.2 update i will have it fully charged at 8am and at 8 pm I am down to 20% and i never touched it the thing just sat in my bag while I was at work. and i have a 100% uptime. I don't use task mangers and have no idea what is draining it.
downer06 said:
I have the same issue I am 100% stock on mine and ever since the 3.2 update i will have it fully charged at 8am and at 8 pm I am down to 20% and i never touched it the thing just sat in my bag while I was at work. and i have a 100% uptime. I don't use task mangers and have no idea what is draining it.
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That definitely sounds like a rogue application.
Any app in your accounts and sync section has the ability to cause that sort of uptime, so take a look through them. Force a sync and go through each of them to see if anything gets 'stuck' syncing. Twitter and Facebook are always suspect, especially if you're 'busy' on them (meaning you have lots of tweets/facebook posts to sync).
Furthermore, the system is SUPPOSED to close away/sleep some apps after they move from foreground to background however, some of these apps can become locked for some reason and not close (thus the definition of a rogue app). Running processes, etc. may do this. So in addition to programs found under account and sync; any app that plays media (video or music) or connects to download data (news, social apps, shopping/deal apps) can cause this sort of uptime.
I know it can be frustrating but the fix may be as simple as removing the offending app.
Good Luck.
I figured my problem out last night. On all 3 of my gmail accounts it was trying to sync picasa and google photos constantly.

[Q] Phone switches between H and H+ constantly

My phone keeps switching between H and H+ and I'm assuming this is attributing to my bad battery life. I'm tried the phone APN and the wap.cingular APN but both do the same thing. Should I just enable the Use only 2G networks option? Will that lock me into H only?
No. H+ and H aren't causing poor battery life. It's something else.
dmorand said:
My phone keeps switching between H and H+ and I'm assuming this is attributing to my bad battery life. I'm tried the phone APN and the wap.cingular APN but both do the same thing. Should I just enable the Use only 2G networks option? Will that lock me into H only?
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No it will put you on edge. 2g speeds. If you want to keep this phone on 3g, expect terrible battery life, period. A lot of people have hope that the next update will fix the insane battery drain on 3g. I highly doubt it.
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No it will put you on edge. 2g speeds. If you want to keep this phone on 3g, expect terrible battery life, period. A lot of people have hope that the next update will fix the insane battery drain on 3g. I highly doubt it.
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There's no battery drain on 3G. The problem is somewhere else, mainly in maps, wakelocks and/or kernel.
alternatively route is to flash a custom kernel such as franco
Yeah I've got franco, and just flashed MiNCO ROM (I was using CM but battery life was still horrible).
What APN are you guys using? I'm using the phone APN. I just upgraded to franco r20 so I'm hoping this will show an improvement
apn varies on your carrier. its not the same for all
the phone sits on H and goes H+ when you are downloading stuff.
download betterbatterystats and make sure you don't have any apps preventing your phone from deep sleeping http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
CM battery life isn't bad... its more of your current setup in terms of apps and kernel. ROM rarely has an impact on battery life in my opinion. its all about wakelocks, sync intervals.
make sure google maps latitude is OFF and that your phone isn't automatic reporting your location.
I've got the Access to my location setting under Location access On but al of the location settings under Maps are off.
I downloaded betterbatterystats yesterday. I noticed that my twitter and facebook app were causing some wakelocks so I got those syncs disabled. I'm hoping I'll squeeze some more life out of this now. I assume Google will probably be releasing a patch in the near future so I'll just hold tight for now (and a charger close)
dmorand said:
I've got the Access to my location setting under Location access On but al of the location settings under Maps are off.
I downloaded betterbatterystats yesterday. I noticed that my twitter and facebook app were causing some wakelocks so I got those syncs disabled. I'm hoping I'll squeeze some more life out of this now. I assume Google will probably be releasing a patch in the near future so I'll just hold tight for now (and a charger close)
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Google releasing patches doesn't matter. It's your phone set up. I push 4+ hours easily. Disable whatever cards that you don't need in Google Now as well.
http://zephik.com/upload/Screenshot_2012-12-14-19-05-58.png ~2 weeks ago on CM + Franco Kernel (some release... I don't remember which one now)
Facebook app uses GPS and drains a lot. Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkiXQ.. ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping.
Please hit the thanks button if I help.... you haven't pressed it once and I have been replying back in a helpful manner. Thanks
zephiK said:
Google releasing patches doesn't matter. It's your phone set up. I push 4+ hours easily. Disable whatever cards that you don't need in Google Now as well.
http://zephik.com/upload/Screenshot_2012-12-14-19-05-58.png ~2 weeks ago on CM + Franco Kernel (some release... I don't remember which one now)
Facebook app uses GPS and drains a lot. Download https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5idmFsb3Nlay5jcHVzcHkiXQ.. ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping.
Please hit the thanks button if I help.... you haven't pressed it once and I have been replying back in a helpful manner. Thanks
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Sorry about the "Thanks", I greatly appreciate your help, I've clicked them. I'll review CPU Spy and the better battery status and I'll keep narrowing the problem down. I'm determined to squeeze 1+ day of battery life out of this bad boy!

[Q] Android System is draining my battery a lot since I updated my phone to Kitkat

Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
dllebandroid said:
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
Shark0011 said:
Yes, I am having the same problem. I was told to do a factory reset but I cant even back up my phone with kies because it the MTP driver keeps failing to install and Kies says I have to use Kies 3 even though the Samsung Site says 3 is for the Galaxy Note..
Did you sideload your update or was it OTA?
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It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
dllebandroid said:
It was a OTA. I did a factory reset already, but that didn't fix the problem unfortunately.
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yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
Shark0011 said:
yeah I side loaded the update and I am on 100% stock no rooting or anything. My phone gets really hot all of a sudden and the battery starts dropping like crazy. I have none of the apps running so I don't know what the problem is..
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that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
dllebandroid said:
that is odd. I was reading the forums on the sprint galaxy note 3 update, and people have posted pix of their battery stats. Their stats looks similar to mine. The people there was saying that maybe the problem would fix itself over a week. Im hopping it do, because I am really loving kitkat...minus this issue of course.
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I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
Shark0011 said:
I hope so, here is my battery screen shot. It was fine until all of a sudden it starting dropping
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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oh wow. You definitely have an app that is not liking kitkat. Your phone does not fall asleep when you turn your screen off. Im really trying to figure out why your phone is doing that. Im going to assume that "lookout" and "Malwarebytes Anti-Malware" are the problem. My opinion is that you don't need those as much as you think you do. they are most likely the cause of your drainage. My phone falls asleep as soon as i turn off the screen. Now i have 90% battery life with almost an hr of SOT left, and thats on 4g LTE the entire time.
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I attached another screen shot which shows it better
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Heres my stats new stats
I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
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84guy said:
I had alot of problems when on wifi, don't use it anymore and sticking with 4g. I'm at 30% left with just over 4 hours screen on. I'm guessing it's something either Google or Samsung have syncing more often on wifi, on wifi I'd be dead at 3 or 4 hours screen on time
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
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Another one of the major problems I am having is that sometimes my apps don't work. When i clicked on the camera it did not show up the app opens but the camera does not turn on. This leads to a major lag and when I try to press the home button it does not work. Then my phone's screen just shuts off and I cant turn it back on via the home button or the power button.
This also leads to the phone getting hot and losing the battery very quickly..
oh and btw the S5 does not seem to impressive to me..
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thats very odd man my phone doesn't do that at all.
The S5 didn't wow me either...lets see what HTC will do
had the same problem.
dllebandroid said:
Before the update everything was fine. Now if I turn on the screen or listen to music the phone would awake (it would show that it was asleep in jellybean). When I turn off the screen and I am not listening to music then my phone falls asleep. Android system used to be awake under 20 mins over a 15-30 hr span now it can be well over an hour in 4-9 hr span. I did a factory reset yesterday already, uninstalled all of my apps and reinstalled them when I seen that the problem still exist. I googled the problem, but can't find a solution. Is anyone else getting a Android System battery drain like me.
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I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
mattcoxxx said:
I had the same problem at first. Waited a few days and it still drained badly. Then I went into startups and turned off a few of the apps I never use. Working fine now.
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What apps did you disabled, and could you include a screen shot of your battery activity if you don't mind.
dllebandroid said:
Thats interesting. I haven't used my phone on wifi yet, because its a little inconsistent right now. If your phone is acting up while connected to wifi then it got to be something on samsung's end. You can end up with just over 5 and a half hrs of SOT if you stick to 4g and don't want any problems. I would keep testing how things go on both wifi and 4g over the next couple of days if i were you to see if the problems continues though. What problems are you getting while connected to wifi?
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Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
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84guy said:
Same problem as the op. Android system would take alot and phone wouldn't sleep. But on 4g it sleeps. Could be an app I have I dunno. 4g is fast here so it's not a problem for me
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i reset the phone and didn't install any apps and come to find out that its something that is already on the phone. I had no apps on my phone and android system and android os were in the top three that was taking up a lot of battery.
I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
***UPDATE on HOW TO FIX***
I HAD terrible batt drain with nae.. so bad that i left the device on the charger overnight qnd woke up to 35% batt... i got mad and reflashed stockish v6.. but.. batt drain was the same...
so.. here is what i did... i ended up flashing negalite r6 and the batt was so bad my phone would be dead within 1hr.. SO, FOR KICKS, i reflashed the MK2 modem and HOLY COW!, problem solved!!
im currently on negalite r6 ( a nae rom ) but using the mk2 modem and my batt drain problems are gone. in fact im getting great batt life. i didnt change the kernal or anything. i have flashed ktoonsez kernal over it, and it has not effected batt life at all...
in conclusion, if ur batt life sux, try reflashing mk2 modem.. it worked for me.. and yes 4g, mms, calls, and wifi work without any problem...
hope this helps
DJMaj07 said:
I recently had an issue with Android OS draining a lot of battery. I read somewhere that disabling stuff from Google sync that you don't use can help, so I disabled sync for all Google services except the ones I use, such as contacts, calendar, app data, people details, and play books. I rebooted and watched my battery for the next couple of days. And it worked. My battery life is a lot better, and Android OS is not using nearly as much battery as it did before. Perhaps this will help you guys?
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I don't even have sync on to help with battery life. Then again i never have it on unless i need to have something pushed to me.

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