If you do not know Samsung Poland confirmed on their wall - no Exynos and no MicroSD slot for GT 10.1
Looks like Samsung went really all the way to make itself look like Apple - I don't think it is a smart move.
First of all, thera are not many differences between 10.1v and 10.1. If you find the old one cheaper take it! You will not loose much. One thing I am not certain is screen type in 10.1v - if you know what it is, for certain please let us know.
So... new GT is thinner, has a bit better screen and worse camera - that is it!
It is also more expensive that all of its Android competition that is offering better functionality (Acer and Asus).
Yes, they are thicker and heavier but the difference is not that big like 50%.
What is more they offer a lot more I/O ports for better connectivity and PRICE.
As it seems none of the tablets of the current generation is THERE yet, to fulfil most of our expectations this means we have to settle for something to get by, something cheap... a lesser evil. Is GT 10.1 it? I do not think so.
It will loose in volume against the iPad 2. This is certain (apple has better marketing and is already on the market). What is more bigger sales means for many people that it "=" it is better.
It will (probably) loose against Asus - price and features says so. GT is only better design wise. Do you really want to pay extra for few grams less and few mm less?
It might even loose against upcoming Amazon tablets.
Now... if we are really to see quad core tablets this year or q1 next and also tablets with Windows 8 on board this means now you want tablet that is THE CHEAPEST and will loose as little as possible.
In my opinion it will be (today) Acer/Asus basic model or iPad2 (as this will always find its buyer).
Samsung shame on you! (at least in theory) You had winning cards on your hands and all you did was - nothing :-(
In my case it is decision time - get something (16GB) cheap or just f..k it and wait.
galtom said:
If you do not know Samsung Poland confirmed on their wall - no Exynos and no MicroSD slot for GT 10.1
Looks like Samsung went really all the way to make itself look like Apple - I don't think it is a smart move.
First of all, thera are not many differences between 10.1v and 10.1. If you find the old one cheaper take it! You will not loose much. One thing I am not certain is screen type in 10.1v - if you know what it is, for certain please let us know.
So... new GT is thinner, has a bit better screen and worse camera - that is it!
It is also more expensive that all of its Android competition that is offering better functionality (Acer and Asus).
Yes, they are thicker and heavier but the difference is not that big like 50%.
What is more they offer a lot more I/O ports for better connectivity and PRICE.
As it seems none of the tablets of the current generation is THERE yet, to fulfil most of our expectations this means we have to settle for something to get by, something cheap... a lesser evil. Is GT 10.1 it? I do not think so.
It will loose in volume against the iPad 2. This is certain (apple has better marketing and is already on the market). What is more bigger sales means for many people that it "=" it is better.
It will (probably) loose against Asus - price and features says so. GT is only better design wise. Do you really want to pay extra for few grams less and few mm less?
It might even loose against upcoming Amazon tablets.
Now... if we are really to see quad core tablets this year or q1 next and also tablets with Windows 8 on board this means now you want tablet that is THE CHEAPEST and will loose as little as possible.
In my opinion it will be (today) Acer/Asus basic model or iPad2 (as this will always find its buyer).
Samsung shame on you! (at least in theory) You had winning cards on your hands and all you did was - nothing :-(
In my case it is decision time - get something (16GB) cheap or just f..k it and wait.
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You really don't make valid points. SD card slot is useless to the average consumer in HC as you have to Root to even use it ! You complaining 'get something cheap' sorry buddy 499.99$ and 599.99$ is cheap iPhone 4s sell for 400 even.
To answer your question YES people will pay for something as thin and light as the iPad but running Android. Common sense
I suspect the Tegra 2 must be a Honeycomb thing. Seems on the Galaxy S 2 get the Exynos, but the tablet doesn't. Maybe Google had to make some shortcuts getting Honeycomb out quickly and only optimized it for Tegra 2? *shrug*
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 gives up a lot of features. I had a Transformer and it was really hard making the decision between features and low cost versus basically comfort.
I broke it down this way to myself. The Transformer is a hybrid device. It can be a okay-ish tablet or and okay-ish Android netbook. I don't think it really excels at either, as comprimises do seem to have been made so it can do both.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 however is no hybrid. It's a pure tablet. It's design to be comfortable and to consume data.
End the end I decided I don't need a hybrid. I got a laptop, so I want my tablet to give me the best tablet experience possible and try not to be more than it can be. So no HDMI out to TVs, no fancy netbook style keyboard dock, sadly even no micro SD.
The lack of micro SD hurts the most. I don't think it's a sacrifice Samsung needed to make. It feels like a business move to help boost sales of the more expensive models. It's a business and I think it's a decision they are able to get away with at this time because the competition isn't strong enough on the Android side. I would have thought including micro SD could have been smart to maybe sway some people thinking about an iPad 2, and this feature could be an extra differentiating feature.
Oh well, we've beaten the micro SD dead horse quite a bit though. But at least with Android it'll be easier to drag and drop files between the internal storage and a computer if I need to shuffle things around for more space.
There is always the option of just waiting. But I really don't see any manufactures coming out with a very light tablet like Samsung. So it could be quite a wait.
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You really don't make valid points. SD card slot is useless to the average consumer in HC as you have to Root to even use it ! You complaining 'get something cheap' sorry buddy 499.99$ and 599.99$ is cheap iPhone 4s sell for 400 even.
To answer your question YES people will pay for something as thin and light as the iPad but running Android. Common sense
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Well, I am assuming that since it is there and more tablets are actually getting to the shops worldwide - it will work.
I never said no one will buy it . One would say that a MAN has to be mad to get an ipad or iPhone when there is so many better things out there... and than you look at cash Apple makes and amount of stuff it sells.
If you think Samsung product will win just because it is (bit) thinner and (bit) lighter- I say you are wrong.
But as I do not love Apple I really wish the best to Sammy - it is just that thinner and lighter is not enough for me to spend my money.
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You really don't make valid points. SD card slot is useless to the average consumer in HC as you have to Root to even use it ! You complaining 'get something cheap' sorry buddy 499.99$ and 599.99$ is cheap iPhone 4s sell for 400 even.
To answer your question YES people will pay for something as thin and light as the iPad but running Android. Common sense
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It sounds like he's comparing the Transformer with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. With the Transformer, you don't have to root to use the micro SD, it's working right out of the box.
So you can buy a $400 16GB Transformer, insert a $20 16GB micro SD card and have a 32GB tablet for $420. To get 32GB of storage with the Galaxy Tab 10.1, that costs $600. So the $180 premium for the GT 10.1 is kinda difficult to embrace.
And this is kinda my complaint with many of the tablets. Why are they charging +$100 to go from 16GB to 32GB. 16GB is not worth $100 and I think this is what makes the lack of micro SD particularly troubling. I would have less of a problem having no external storage if I didn't feel like I was being robbed. Haha.
And kudos to Acer for being a little more civil. 16GB A500 costs $450 and the 32GB is $500. So at least they only charge $50 more for 16GB of additional storage.
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If you do not know Samsung Poland confirmed on their wall - no Exynos and no MicroSD slot for GT 10.1
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I think you already knew the answer after so many posts, do you?
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Looks like Samsung went really all the way to make itself look like Apple - I don't think it is a smart move.
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Probably, but probably not. At least Samsung is right on the phone side, the Samsung Galaxy S is one of the best selling Android phones, if not simply the best.
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First of all, thera are not many differences between 10.1v and 10.1. If you find the old one cheaper take it! You will not loose much. One thing I am not certain is screen type in 10.1v - if you know what it is, for certain please let us know.
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You right, but for some of users, the look and form factor are quite important.
If you think 10.1v is OK, then go for it.
At least, the 10.1v has been REPLACED by the 10.1, by Samsung.
Meaning, it will be (or already) discontinued.
Will you buy that 10.1v? If you do, then good luck!
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So... new GT is thinner, has a bit better screen and worse camera - that is it!
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Yes, it is thinner and some people like that and prefer that. And there is nothing wrong with it.
If you like the chubby and fat one, that's also OK. Some people like fat girl/dude
All in all, why arguing about 10.1v?
Samsung made it obsolete, even Vodafone UK has replaced it with the new 10.1.
There is no point arguing 10.1v, it is history now.
And the camera, yeah, some of use don't really care with camera on a tablet!
It is no use and you look like an idiot for holding it to make a photo.
Also, all of us has our cool 5 or 8 MP Android smartphone with decent camera.
That camera on the front of tablet is for VIDEO CHAT, and you don't need high res for that. Why? To reduce the network bandwidth requirement of course!
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It is also more expensive that all of its Android competition that is offering better functionality (Acer and Asus).
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Sure, ASUS is cheaper. But it is different form factor. Some people might not like it, like me And if you really follow the news or ASUS TF forum you might see the built quality is not that good.
It is your choice, and that's good on Android.
YOU HAVE CHOICES.
Do you want GT 10.1 to not be released just because of there is a cheaper ASUS?
Or do you think GT 10.1 should be priced at the ASUS price level?
Oh yeah, we will LOVE cheaper product.
But, alas, that does not ... Too bad ... too bad.
However, some people will still buy more expensive one. Why? It's a choice!
They might like the thinner form factor ... They might like the PLS display ... They might like the TouchWiz!!!
Are those people stupid? NO!!! It's their choice with their money.
Are those people who choose ASUS TF stupid? NO!!! NO!!! They have their needs.
People have different needs.
And we should be thankful to Android world ... THERE ARE CHOICES.
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Yes, they are thicker and heavier but the difference is not that big like 50%.
What is more they offer a lot more I/O ports for better connectivity and PRICE.
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Yupe, that's true.
Unfortunately, this is NOT DELL, where you can choose what do you want, build on order type of thing.
That does not exist till now on Android world.
I hope someday that will be, where we can choose which processor, how much internal memory, amount of RAM, software, UI, slots, whatnot.
Till then, choose whatever available
galtom said:
As it seems none of the tablets of the current generation is THERE yet, to fulfil most of our expectations this means we have to settle for something to get by, something cheap... a lesser evil. Is GT 10.1 it? I do not think so.
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According who? You?
Yes, you
And you are right ... but, right according you.
There is nothing wrong with your opinion.
So others! The people who choose GT 10.1
galtom said:
It will loose in volume against the iPad 2. This is certain (apple has better marketing and is already on the market). What is more bigger sales means for many people that it "=" it is better.
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For sure it will. Note, the Android tablet world is still new
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It will (probably) loose against Asus - price and features says so. GT is only better design wise. Do you really want to pay extra for few grams less and few mm less?
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ASUS? I don't care ... and some users don't care either! See in some forum threads, some people returned their ASUS TF to get this GT 10.1.
They are exists! People who choose GT 10.1 instead of ASUS.
Including me.
Something wrong with ASUS? Probably! Probably not, however you cannot simply say that ASUS is better than GT 10.1 just because it is cheaper Nah, that would be to simple ... for some, $100 different is nothing compare to the satisfaction of the device itself.
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It might even loose against upcoming Amazon tablets.
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So what??? I don't get it.
This is business 101. Something might be better compare to the other.
Do you think there is no user bought those tablet with Froyo?
You wrong! There are people bought that
galtom said:
Now... if we are really to see quad core tablets this year or q1 next and also tablets with Windows 8 on board this means now you want tablet that is THE CHEAPEST and will loose as little as possible.
In my opinion it will be (today) Acer/Asus basic model or iPad2 (as this will always find its buyer).
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Haha Yeah right ... Wait for that Windows 8 or buy Acer/ASUS/iPad2
There is nothing wrong with that. It's your choice.
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Samsung shame on you! (at least in theory) You had winning cards on your hands and all you did was - nothing :-(
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Nothing? You kidding me? Did you read all those reviews? Did you?
Right, that's your opinion and there is nothing wrong with that.
Others (a lot of them) disagree, others who said GT 10.1 is the sleekest Android tablet to date
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In my case it is decision time - get something (16GB) cheap or just f..k it and wait.
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Sure, please wait I think that's the best for you and I already said that many times hehehe ...
I know, you just disappointed that you don't get the "PERFECT" device as you wished or dreamed. And now you are just throwing all your disappointment like this. I know
You know (you knew), there is no perfect device, not yet. But some people are not that picky or have different usage pattern. Those people might choose something which is available right now. And enjoy the toy ... enjoy the life and play with it
So, be happy as you still have your passion for Android tablet.
Keep wishing and keep dreaming (as I do as well), that someday ... some manufacturer ... will make that magical device like in our dream.
*gosh ... I cannot believe that I typed this all *
Ravynmagi said:
It sounds like he's comparing the Transformer with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. With the Transformer, you don't have to root to use the micro SD, it's working right out of the box.
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R u sure of that? That at Asus microSD just simply works?!?
Now.... that just makes an ass out of Moto
galtom said:
R u sure of that? That at Asus microSD just simply works?!?
Now.... that just makes an ass out of Moto
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Positive. I've owned two Transformers already. They are nice tablets. It was very tough deciding between the Transformer and Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Besides what I already mentioned, I also don't like the Transformer speakers though. They are weak and off balance.
One another thing. Read the Galaxy Tab 10.1 review at anandtech.com. They tested the camera on the GT 10.1 and compared it with the Transformer.
We get reminded megapixel size isn't everything. Anandtech.com found the picture quality on the 3MP GT 10.1 camera better than the 5MP Transformer camera.
Ravynmagi said:
It sounds like he's comparing the Transformer with the Galaxy Tab 10.1. With the Transformer, you don't have to root to use the micro SD, it's working right out of the box.
So you can buy a $400 16GB Transformer, insert a $20 16GB micro SD card and have a 32GB tablet for $420. To get 32GB of storage with the Galaxy Tab 10.1, that costs $600. So the $180 premium for the GT 10.1 is kinda difficult to embrace.
And this is kinda my complaint with many of the tablets. Why are they charging +$100 to go from 16GB to 32GB. 16GB is not worth $100 and I think this is what makes the lack of micro SD particularly troubling. I would have less of a problem having no external storage if I didn't feel like I was being robbed. Haha.
And kudos to Acer for being a little more civil. 16GB A500 costs $450 and the 32GB is $500. So at least they only charge $50 more for 16GB of additional storage.
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name brand high class 16gb cards are 40$+ not 20.
Well, I played with GT 10.1 for a bit on Samsung Mobile Live Stands. I do like its design a lot (but I am not sure it would be enough to spend a lot more than on Transformer).
So far in Poland it is impossible to even touch any other tablet beside iPad2 :-(
Transformer and Iconia are in pre-order status. And I do want to touch before I buy - this stuff aint actually cheap so I want to make my choice right.
At the moment (as much as I love GT 10.1) Transformer looks smarter (FOR ME !) but once I will be able to actually use it for a bit than I will know.
Then it will all be in price difference as mentioned above. I would not be as worried if I could at least watch Netflix on HC . But with no Netflix, no 720p high profile there is not much to actually watch on tablet in Poland (not my fault)!
Yes it is all my opinions, I think I can have one?
gogol:
10.1v - would I buy old, discontinued product... if price would be good YES. In this case all internals are the same so it is not like support for 10.1v will end because of 10.1. It is the same device ;-)
Yay! I was just thinking to myself, "Two threads on SD cards aren't enough -- I wish someone would create a third thread."
Sorry, it is just that I have felt really disappointed about this. Happens :-(
jamaicansolja said:
name brand high class 16gb cards are 40$+ not 20.
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16GB Sandisk class 4 (which is a lot better than most of the so called more expensive class 10 cards) for $18.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDSDQM-016G-B35-16GB-Microsd-Memory/dp/B001F7AJKI
You can find a lot of good Sandisk 16GB micro SD cards under $20, very easily. And because you aren't running an OS off these cards, but using it mostly for storage, it doesn't have to be lightning fast either, just good quality.
PS. Though, should you want to run an OS off of it, such as for a Nook Color, the San Disk cards are awesome at that too, because they have really great 4K read/write performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
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Yay! I was just thinking to myself, "Two threads on SD cards aren't enough -- I wish someone would create a third thread."
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Oh, there are a lot more than just 2 threads.
Ravynmagi said:
16GB Sandisk class 4 (which is a lot better than most of the so called more expensive class 10 cards) for $18.
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDSDQM-016G-B35-16GB-Microsd-Memory/dp/B001F7AJKI
You can find a lot of good Sandisk 16GB micro SD cards under $20, very easily. And because you aren't running an OS off these cards, but using it mostly for storage, it doesn't have to be lightning fast either, just good quality.
PS. Though, should you want to run an OS off of it, such as for a Nook Color, the San Disk cards are awesome at that too, because they have really great 4K read/write performance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
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so then why are you linking a class 2 card for 20$. Far different than class 10. You serious about why you would want a fast card ? Put a 1gb movie file on a class 2 the on class 10.
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R u sure of that? That at Asus microSD just simply works?!?
Now.... that just makes an ass out of Moto
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I own a TF and I can confirm that too. SD card works out of the box, no issues, no rooting required
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so then why are you linking a class 2 card for 20$. Far different than class 10. You serious about why you would want a fast card ? Put a 1gb movie file on a class 2 the on class 10.
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I have a $35 Patriot Class 10, a $30 Wintech Class 10, and a $20 Sandisk Class 4 (packaging says Class 2, but Sandisk mostly ships just C4 these days).
The Patriot and Wintech give nice looking benchmarks with CDM. But in the real world, I can copy a 1GB file to the SanDisk Class 4 faster than to either Class 10 micro SD cards.
Sandisk makes really awesome micros SD cards. People don't need to spend an arm and leg on some mega fast 20MB/s write speed card just for a tablet. But if you wanted to, that is an option that would still be far cheaper than what Samsung is charging you for their internal storage, which according to the Antutu benchmark isn't even quite class 10 itself (though I haven't had the chance to do an actual file copy to it to see how fast it really is).
Got to say I agree with the OP - had high hopes for this tablet as it combined the style of the ipad2, android and I hoped micro SD, but the lack of the latter has really put me off. The still unknown UK release date doesn't help either - do samsung really have such a lack of respect for their prospective customers? It's a shame as they do a lot right - the galaxy S phones are superb.
My thoughts on the SD slot and the Tab in general
Have to say I don't agree with the OP.
A few thoughts:
-Samsung Poland doesn't mean that Samsung USA or other countries will not have an SD card slot.
-From internal sources I heard that the plan was to release the tab with the micro sd (that's why you see it in many pictures). Something went wrong with either software or hardware (most probably hardware) and since Samsung had the June 8th date already set up they released it without.
They probably thought is better to release a product than to postpone (don't forget they have deals with distributors, Amazon, Best Buy, etc.) and they probably thought that the problem is hardware related, otherwise they could fix it later on with a software release.
If you think about it, it doesn't make sense to show so many pictures with a micro sd slot and then scratch it out completely - if they could have included it they would have done it.
Having said that, the chances that Verizon's version will have an SD slot are small, since even Verizon's website doesn't mention it. But that was indeed the plan. We will know soon.
-Saying that because of the lack of an sd card slot the whole tablet is not competitive anymore doesn't make any sense.
The 10.1V is thicker and heavier. And for a product that is supposed to be used on the go all the time that makes a huge difference.
As a matter of fact, every single tablet on the marker is thicker and heavier. So Sd card or not Samsung put so much into the design that it will have a winner.
The better camera on the 10.1 is not a deciding factor for 99.9% of the people.
Proof is the Ipad's 2 cameras megapixels are very low. On top of that, people don't buy tablets to take photos.
(Check this out http://www.buzzfeed.com/burnred/spike-lee-uses-his-ipad-to-photograph-president-ba-281t ... people still make fun of him...)
-I am also pissed off about the sd card, but at the end of the day an Sd card slot saves $ 20 - 30 to the consumer.
It gets down to that. Most consumers will still buy an sd / usb adapter no matter what.
-All this talk about Exynos but really every single Android Table is running on Tegra 2 - so if you were expecting the 10.1 to run on Exynos without reading / hearing anything about before you should have known it's a long shot
-In a mobile world there are 2, 3 main operating systems, so the form factor IS everything.
Look at the ipad 2, they added a camera and slimmed down the tablet and people rushed to sell their ipad 1 to get the new one.
Look at the Xoom, the software works, the connections are there, but you put it in your bag and you might as well cancel your gym membership because you will be lifting weights.
I saw the Tab 10.1, it's super slim, it's super light, it has a nice screen and it runs Android 3.1.
The deciding factor is the form and nothing else.
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I've been calling and calling different places looking for an accurate eta on this sexy little tab and it looks like the 7th of March is the most recent estimated availability date. It is projected that the unit will ship within 48 hours of said date according to Tigerdirect.
Tiger direct is currently selling them at 450 which is 20 above other etailers. I am kinda inclined to purchase there because I trust them and their support has been excellent.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7258669&CatId=6957
Perhaps it is time for a Elocity A10 section
*edit* still no release or eta. I cancelled my order and I am probably going for a xoom.
Yes, I heard two days ago from J&R that mine was expected to ship "in the next 7 - 10 days", so it appears that the retailers concerned are on the same timeframe.
I heard from Esther Koo, Elocity's press agent, that the device is rooted out of the box. She had no answer to my question regarding its ability to run apps off the SD card - which I consider important given the limited system memory.
We should start scouting out good cases and other accessories for our new toy, while keeping an eye on the Tegra marketplace for custom apps. Of course, we'll all be watching the Honeycomb scene closely...
A10
I love my A7 and am thinking about selling it and getting the A10. Does anyone know if this one WILL actually have the sim card slot to use? Honeycomb for this device will be cool.
Will the buttons be lit up on this unit unlike the A7?
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Will the buttons be lit up on this unit unlike the A7?
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From the pictures on TigerDirect it looks like they were trying to make them look illuminated, but I'd want some definite confirmation (like waiting for someone else to buy one lol) before dropping the coin to buy one.
I'll post my considered impressions of the A10 when I get the unit, if that's of interest to anyone. My comparisons will be with the Gtablet and the Nook Color.
To Fredericaw, I'd say this: maybe holding on to your A7 makes sense. The 7" form factor has its convenience and uses in situations where a 10 incher would be out of place. Unless you're a gamer and miss the true multitouch that your device doesn't have, its other virtues are considerable. I'd have room for both.
I really don't use the device for gaming. Mostly internet use and video. The multitouch doesn't bother me. Compared to my iphone4 I can see where some times you might need it but it works great without it. I'm never really gonna use a tablet for 3g use. If I need internet bad enough I can use my iPhone. I was just wondering if the A10 would actually be capable. I like the size of the A7 and I can read things just fine. Now if I was old and couldn't see as well I would get a 10in device. Since this device, A7, is built with hardware as the xoom I see no reason why the A7 can't run Honeycomb. Only thing with honeycomb is apps. There really aren't any apps out yet but that will come with time just like apple. I love apple but for tablet sake I will stick to android. Ipad 2 was nice but you have to pay for everything you want to use. Android you can get almost anything for free which is nice for us. broke people. I have a 32gb SD card in my A7 and using the app, apps 2 SD, it will show me apps on my device I can move to the SD card but I'm not able to. Anybody messed with this app? Other than that my A7 works great and seriously the tegra 2 is blazing fast. Faster than my iPhone 4.
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I have a 32gb SD card in my A7 and using the app, apps 2 SD, it will show me apps on my device I can move to the SD card but I'm not able to.
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You must write to app-developer and tell him about mount-path. But our tablet has original mountpoints (Dexter explained already, but i repeat)
Internal SDcard mounts to /sdcard (and when you are using android 2.2 feature to move app to sdcard - our tablet's moving apps to internal sdcard)
External SDcard mounts to /sdcard/sdcard-disk0 and it mounts every time when you're waking tablet from the sleep up (and unmounts every time when it's going to sleep)
So, if you are using this feature you must avoid moving apps which are working at background (widgets, skype, newsreaders).
I'm waiting till some people write a review about A10 before I get one. It looks nice and all but you never know what you expect until you get it in your hands and play with it . I wish Borders bookstore sold the A7, people would of loved them and maybe we would of made enough money to stay in business, sigh, oh well. Velocity Cruz was a horrible tablet anyone could buy. For now keeping A7 until further notice. And thx guys for telling me about the s-micro, I was reading others who said it was a problem so I thought there was.
If I'd had the A7, I'd have kept it alongside the A10, for the reasons I gave before. I like the compact size, its screen quality - minus multitouch - is very good and the processor is cutting edge. As it is, I have a Gtab and the Nook Color, so my A10 will have some comparators.
Will the A10 prove capable? I'll find out soon enough, but the indications are favorable. Elocity claims it has built on the lessons of the A7, the high rez IPS screen is said to be gorgeous, providing 10 points of contact for the interface and rest of the hardware is supposed to be very competent. I bought this one because it looks like what the Gtab was meant to be - and I've been as impressed with the latter's capabilities as I'm depressed by its odd screen (one sweet spot and that's it).
Yes, I'm expecting the A10 to have some heft - it's a stately looking device and that real estate brings some weight. But if that reflects sound build quality, I won't complain. With Honeycomb in the wings, I expect the device will grow with me for a bit.
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From the pictures on TigerDirect it looks like they were trying to make them look illuminated, but I'd want some definite confirmation (like waiting for someone else to buy one lol) before dropping the coin to buy one.
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I saw a video today on this A10. The buttons do light up when any part of the screen is touched. They also turn off after 5 seconds if the screen isn't touched!. They are brightly lit also and look good!
Just received a call from J&R with whom I pre-ordered the 4gb A10. It seems Elocity is now substituing the 8gb model for those of us who ordered the sammler version - for the same price.
I can only assume this is because testing showed the 8gb configuration is the minimum for Honeycomb and a decent complement of installed apps.
Good news, but no firm ship date yet.
A10 shipping date once again delayed!
I just contacted eLocity and inquired about their shipping date of this product as their "PROMISSED" shipping date was 3/7/2011. She stated to me that the shipping date has been pushed up once again to the END OF MARCH!. I just don't get it, why do they even announce these products and then delay sending them out?
Judging by today's substitution of my 4gb model for the 8gb version, it does seem that some testing continues. That can only be good for consumers in the end, but yes, it's frustrating to be kept on edge.
The only thing about the A10 that has me somewhat hesitant (emphasis on somewhat) is the 512MB RAM. Does anyone think this will be a problem, especially for the slated Honeycomb update or even near-future applications?
I'm noticing tablets now equipped with 1GB (Xoom), so I'm wondering if the lifespan of the A10 will not be as good as it could be if it had more than 512.
Thoughts?
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So you ordered a 4GB, but they are sending a 8GB to make up for the delay? Thats awesome if thats what you meant, I would suffer through a delay for a free upgrade
They're sending me an 8gb model for the price of the 4gb without any prompting from me. I don't think it's a prize for patience! I believe the 4gb version was found to have insufficient memory in practice, and the 8gb becomes the default. A nice turn of events, anyway.
I bet the 32GB model will be more useful time will tell. That is if they get these to market in the future!. I have a order out for a XOOM as well as the 32GB eLocity model the one that gets to my door 1st gets to stay!
1 gig would be nice, but not essential. My little Nook Color runs a Honeycomb port well, and it has 512mb. It's not a full build of Honeycomb but still enough to put the Nook through its paces, and it comes through just fine. I wouldn't worry about RAM.
However, internal storage memory is important because you need enough to install apps, unless the A10 improves on its predecessor, the A7, which didn't run apps off the Sd card. So the 8gb that Elocity has decided to send me for the price of 4gb is welcome.
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I bet the 32GB model will be more useful time will tell. That is if they get these to market in the future!. I have a order out for a XOOM as well as the 32GB eLocity model the one that gets to my door 1st gets to stay!
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So ... ummm ... can I borrow some of that money you're throwing around? lol
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/samsung-finds-parts-of-galaxy-tab-10-1-inadequate-compared-to/
I guess that makes sense. Hopefully, it will be more in the $600-$700 range. Too bad there is no Wifi only version yet. If we can get $500 wifi only Gtab 10.1, it will be much more competitive. It's kind of dumb on Samsung's part not to have multiple pricing tiers. May have to do with cost of manufacturer. I don't know.
Which will mean cheaper parts i am thinking - Maybe the spec will be changed. Main thing will it delay the tab?
I think the specs wont be chged. The original price is too expensive n they cant duel to ipad 2 with tat kind of spec
Thanks to Apple that Samsung will decrease the prices of this tablet.
"A carrier source told ChannelNews that they are expecting a head on battle" between the Samsung Galaxy Tab and the new Apple iPad 2 and that the "go price of the 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Tab" was being adjusted from what was originally given to carriers."
Source:smarthouse.com.au/Home_Office/Notebooks_And_Tablets/Q9T3W9D3
That's great news, now if only we knew an exact release date.
Release date 03/22/11
http://www.samsungunpacked.com/html_ver2/
According to some sources. The release date for 7'', 8.9'', and 10.1'' GTabs is 03/22. That's what "78910" stands for. Lets see how many want to wait another 11 days after Ipad 2 to get Gtabs.
That event is for the launch of the 7.8" tablet. I would expect the 10.1" to have been released by then in Europe (or in some of them at least)
8.9" not 7.8" fyi
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I love the fact that apple made the ipad 2 so cheap bc now I may actually be able to afford the gTab 10.1 before the end of the year...But if the gTab is anything like the Xoom I will lean near getting an ipad 2.
Also does anyone know if the gtab 10.1 has a sd card slot bc none of the videos I have seen show it having one?
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I love the fact that apple made the ipad 2 so cheap bc now I may actually be able to afford the gTab 10.1 before the end of the year...But if the gTab is anything like the Xoom I will lean near getting an ipad 2.
Also does anyone know if the gtab 10.1 has a sd card slot bc none of the videos I have seen show it having one?
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It doesn't.
And you probably will be getting an iPad 2.
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It doesn't.
And you probably will be getting an iPad 2.
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What!! Ok, so let me get this stright; the gTab 10. is going to be a xoom basicly just with speakers in a different place, the mic in a weird place, and no sd card? All I have to say to that is wow, just wow, and the following I am about to say:
I don't know if it is just all the hype about the 10.1 tablets or what, but I am somewhat disappointed...I mean I think Moto should have took more time in deciding the placement of things and I think Samsung should have payed more attention in what people want(like an sd card slot, etc.) instead of just trying to make their tablet better then the Xoom and ipad2.
I could care less with SD card
Why? I am using Nexus S which does not have one and I don't miss anything.
Although, I prefer to have 64GB model, but GTab 10.1 has only 16GB and 32GB model.
I am hoping the upcoming GTab 8.9" has 64 GB model!
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What!! Ok, so let me get this stright; the gTab 10. is going to be a xoom basicly just with speakers in a different place, the mic in a weird place, and no sd card? All I have to say to that is wow, just wow, and the following I am about to say:
I don't know if it is just all the hype about the 10.1 tablets or what, but I am somewhat disappointed...I mean I think Moto should have took more time in deciding the placement of things and I think Samsung should have payed more attention in what people want(like an sd card slot, etc.) instead of just trying to make their tablet better then the Xoom and ipad2.
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I could care less with SD card
Why? I am using Nexus S which does not have one and I don't miss anything.
Although, I prefer to have 64GB model, but GTab 10.1 has only 16GB and 32GB model.
I am hoping the upcoming GTab 8.9" has 64 GB model!
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Well, I for one would be all but lost with no sd card slot...I mean I hardly use it but I always like to have the option.
I am not even going to bother ruling this out of my to buy list yet though bc I somehow always end up buying another Samsung device after I say I am done with them.
The truth of the matter is most people will never be satisfied with a product unless they have a say into it's design. Everyone has a idea of how it should be designed based on what they want, so unless they come out with a design-a-tablet, you'll be stuck with what's available. So since designing a tablet is the most unreal option, you will settle. To say that you won't get this because it lacks an sd slot, then why are you going after the ipad2? That too doesn't have an sd slot. If you are saying because of the size of the tablet, then you are willing to pay the over $800 price tag for a 64GB tablet? You might change your mind when you see a 32GB tablet that has great specs and reviews (so far) for prob around $500-600.
You can look towards the Toshiba Tablet, but it looks heavier than this, the Xoom and the ipad even. Maybe the HTC 10in tablet will be more to your taste, but you should hurry and get your ideas in to them so they put the buttons where you want them.
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The truth of the matter is most people will never be satisfied with a product unless they have a say into it's design. Everyone has a idea of how it should be designed based on what they want, so unless they come out with a design-a-tablet, you'll be stuck with what's available. So since designing a tablet is the most unreal option, you will settle. To say that you won't get this because it lacks an sd slot, then why are you going after the ipad2? That too doesn't have an sd slot. If you are saying because of the size of the tablet, then you are willing to pay the over $800 price tag for a 64GB tablet? You might change your mind when you see a 32GB tablet that has great specs and reviews (so far) for prob around $500-600.
You can look towards the Toshiba Tablet, but it looks heavier than this, the Xoom and the ipad even. Maybe the HTC 10in tablet will be more to your taste, but you should hurry and get your ideas in to them so they put the buttons where you want them.
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First of all a design-a-tablet would be so awesome, and oddly enough I can see that happening in the future...
Secondly, I suppose your right if sd card is my issue then why go with a device with no sd card slot also...and I need to quit acting like Galaxy Tab 10.1, xoom, and ipad 2 will be my only three choices...
Also I suppose their is also the fact that if I get ipad 2 I will need to buy apps I bought for android like Pocket God all over again.
Ok, so I decided I think I will wait to see a few more of the new Honeycomb tablets that come out before I make a choice about which one to buy.
Trust me, you won't be sorry you waited either. Just think how many times have you said these words: I wish I would have waited. I have said it countless times and have regretted that I didn't wait. Just look at the Xoom buyers, some are truly not enjoying their tablets right now.
Well for me the wait is almost over. Here I go...I'm on my way to the next Galaxy...To Infinity and Beyond!!!
Samsung should get the rights to that phrase. It would make a great a sales pitch. They could release a copy of Toy Story 3 with every Tab 10.1
That would be pretty cool...And I suppose the Samsung 10.1 might not be as bad as I see in videos bc as I recall I didn't decide to finally get my first gTab until I got to mess around with it a bit in the stores.
Anyone seen this one?
It just went to FCC for testing. Should be releasing soon.
Appears to have MicroSD & HDMI.
Any thoughts?
The Asus does look very interesting. A tab/notebook hybrid.
While I can see the appeal of having the transformer for on the go, I don't like the idea for around the house (my want for a table). I like the slider concept a lot better as it looks as functional as the transformer without having a decapitated keyboard on a desk/table somewhere.
It's a shame Toshiba is staggering their models release. I really want something now.
I have been thinking the past few days about this decision.
I love the TF so much and how fast it is especially after rooting it, and with the keyboard its another awesome device.
HOWEVER, I don't use that keyboard a lot. I use it only when I need the USB port. So, paid $150 for just USB port!!! a don't type a lot with my tablet. Even if I need to type a lot, I will use my desktop.
So, I am having a wide, and little bit think and heavy tablet with an extra keyboard that I don't use while I can have the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 with lighter and thinner + a small adapter for USB port whenever I need that. am I right?
I know that I will lose two things: 1. losing money by paying more 2. lose the capability to extend the capacity size by not having micro sd card slot.
BUT, I can reply to that 1. I will pay more for the thickness and weight 2. it doesn't really matter for me to expand the size more than 16gb. I never filled it up. I know its good option to have, but its ok with me.
This how it came to my mind the idea of selling the TF and getting the galaxy 10.1
any comments?!!
Another fascinating tale of personal preference!
Seriously, though. It's not a contest. If you're happy with your choice then that's all that matters. What do you care what a bunch of strangers on an Internet forum think?
Besides, you'll probably be back when the TF2 comes out anyway.
Good luck!
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
If you don't care about sharing ideas, then don't. But don't make people who like sharing thinking like you by not sharing.
So the reason I am posting is to share ideas and see what others think.
Thanks for your advice anyway.
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But don't make people who like sharing thinking like you by not sharing.
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Is there something wrong with that, or is it me
I thought about buying a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet (the one with the keyboard).
But i've started using my keyboard less and less so i sold it, so i no longer see the point. You can get Galaxy Tab 10.1 on ebay for rediculous cheap prices, but what would be the point of selling one Honeycomb Tablet for another, especially one without an external micro sd, which i constantly swap with my phone, (a Sensation with a 32gb) can't imagine anyone buying a tablet with no external micro sd card
Why in the world would you want to sell your TF?
checkbox: not sure where you get the "ridiculous cheap prices" for the Galaxy Tab on eBay from. Last i checked, $400+ for a $400+ tablet isn't really that much of a bargain.
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Is there something wrong with that, or is it me
I thought about buying a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet (the one with the keyboard).
But i've started using my keyboard less and less so i sold it, so i no longer see the point. You can get Galaxy Tab 10.1 on ebay for rediculous cheap prices, but what would be the point of selling one Honeycomb Tablet for another, especially one without an external micro sd, which i constantly swap with my phone, (a Sensation with a 32gb) can't imagine anyone buying a tablet with no external micro sd card
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I don't have any problems with HC. I like it I want to still use it in my next tablet. Also, I don't care really about having SD card reader because I will have the connection adapter instead of the whole keyboard.
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Why in the world would you want to sell your TF?
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didn't you read my first post??
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checkbox: not sure where you get the "ridiculous cheap prices" for the Galaxy Tab on eBay from. Last i checked, $400+ for a $400+ tablet isn't really that much of a bargain.
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yeah, I know. that part sucks!! its not cheep to get it. Selling my transformer with the keyboard will get me only 16gb galaxy with out paying a penny out of my pocket. and if I want the 32gb I have to pay some more.
Definitely not worth it in my opinion.
If I were you I'd rather wait till TF2 comes out before making any decision. What's more if the dock you are having now is compatible to use with TF2? That saves you a lot of money without the dock already.
No point rushing, take your time and observe.
If you plan on using a stylus the ThinkPad tablet works great. Just got the ThinkPad tablet a few days ago and still testing out with the apps.
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If you plan on using a stylus the ThinkPad tablet works great. Just got the ThinkPad tablet a few days ago and still testing out with the apps.
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wow that is really nice. I like it. Thanks for showing me that.
diffidently i will put that in the considerations
jsm7483 said:
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
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Viewing angles? Seriously? In my opinion the viewing angles are very good, and the screen itself is excellent. I can't imagine many other people sending the device back for that reason.
jsm7483 said:
I decided to sell my Transformer also. I bought an Apple Newton. The viewing angles on the Transformer were just too hard to look past. I found myself using it less and less. Hopefully I will get way more use out of the newton.
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Darn
I would have been happy to sell you my Newton. I would have even thrown in a 300 baudd modem.
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Viewing angles? Seriously? In my opinion the viewing angles are very good, and the screen itself is excellent. I can't imagine many other people sending the device back for that reason.
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You obviously didn't catch the sarcasm
Well, if you are going to do it, now is the time. The NewEgg $60 Gift Card promotion on it ends today. You could then use the gift card to buy the adapter you are talking about and you might be able to break even sale of your TF and gear.
Good luck.
How are people not filling up their tablets? Do you guys consume no media away from home?
I travel a ton and i like to have some videos on there and the HD rips fill up the memory in no time. Even with the combined 16+32 I have to cycle through videos from time to time to keep the content fresh.
Ive read this a few times now, do people really see a speed increase after rooting their TF's ?
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Ive read this a few times now, do people really see a speed increase after rooting their TF's ?
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I swapped from 3.1 unrooted stock to Prime 1.5, and are now running Revolver 2.5.1 with Clemsyn Blade kernel. I dare to say I've noticed very noticable increase in general smoothness when scrolling homescreens and such from 3.1 stock. However, I don't know how stock unrooted 3.2 with latest updates run like. Initial thought after going custom ROMs was pretty much "wow, this is almost iPad-smooth". Just almost, tho. But hey... who couldn't render a list of icons insanely fast, anyways?
So my friend just bought the 8.9 and he says its no iPad but its wicked fast and that I should sell the xoom and Grr the tab. He is the one who got my xoom for my bday . And this kid buys every tab that hits the market. What's your thought on it . Should i sell the xoom and get the tab or wait it out for the xoom 2 or well just stick with xoom? What do you have to say. Any one play with the 8.9 yet
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Yes. Do it.
Yeah, I'm Homeless.
Do what you want, but I still think the Xoom is the best tab. There will be more choices in the future if you want a new one, wait a while.
We are so close to the Quad core tablets dropping I would wait. You may want one, or the prices will drop on all older tablets, then you could pick one up cheaper.
It's basically the same as the Xoom but thinner with a smaller screen. No reason to buy one unless you really want the 8.9" screen. I like the 8.9" form factor but I'd rather have the 10.1" screen, personally. Performance should be the same or very similar but you'd be giving up a Micro SD card slot as well. I dunno about you, I'm pretty glad my Xoom has the Micro SD, I'm running 64gb(total) now.
When you say this "kid" do you mean he is an actual kid who uses mommy and daddy's money to buy every new tablet on the market? Because if so then he's a douche and I want to punch him in the face. Just sayin.
And yes, my response was worth the forum ban to me. I just hate spoiled brats.
If he is an adult that works hard for his money then more power to him. And yes, still worth the possible consequences. ;-)
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1st. No not a kid but "kid" referring to someone older but not old like 40s old. He made a lot of Money in stocks while in his early 20s .. enough about him
2nd thanks for all the info on quad core and kool stuff. So I'm going g to sell so I can get some money back and put it in my savings account and wait for something better.
As for the 8.9 I would like something just a tad smaller. Or see if I like it. I'll be heading out to best buy this weekend to try out some tabs. Thanks again guys.
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It's a personal decision, get what makes you happy.
Screens to small, and NO MICRO SD CARD SLOT which to me seems like a joke!
Even the new Sony at 9.4” screen seems far to small (noticeably smaller) compared to 10.1, i just don't see the point in it at all
Your just spending more money for less
I have a xoom and I love it, but when I sent my xoom in for the 4G upgrade, I decided to buy the 8.9 Galaxy. I must say I was pretty blown away witht he size and weight. The screens colors are much more vibrant. No it did not have an micro sd, but honestly I rarely use the one in my xoom since I have 32gb version. The xoom is not like the phones where you can install stuff from the market place on your SD card. I did install some movies on my SD card which did not perform the same as the internal memory. I was tempted to keep 8.9, but could not justify 469/569 bucks. The size alone seemed perfect for me when reading books and watching movies. It seemed like a great portable device which was extremely light. Instead, i may wait to see what the xoom 2 8.2 tablet will offer.
On another note, the Samsung had lots of custom features which imo were actually pretty cool. I was upset witht he fact that it still runs Android 3.1. Samsung never seems to upgrade stuff. I have an EVO 3d and had an EVO which is always getting updated to the latest greatest software. My friend has a Samsung Fascinate and he is still using Froyo.
I love je xoom! Except the weight. I'm running Tiamat and IT works well.
My wife picked up a Galaxy Tab 8.9 and it is a very impressive tablet. If I didn't already own a Xoom, I'd be seriously tempted by it.
It is incredibly thin/light (it makes the iPad 2 look overweight) with a better screen than the Xoom. And I think that the 8.9 size is close to perfect. More portable and not as cumbersome to handle as a 10'' without the feeling of sacrificing screen size like you might have with a 7''.
Bottom line: if you own a Xoom already, it's not worth buying another Tegra 2 based tablet. No matter how nice it is. That said, if Samsung launches a next-gen/quad core tablet in the 8.9 size - go for it.
I just read in geek.com there are only 8.82Gb of internal user available space in the siny S4.
I would like to find out if this true for all versions and countries or if this is some carrier's wrongdoing.
I have not received my own S4, so I cannot speak for myself yet, but if you guys can confirm this, I am going to reconsider upgrading to the i9505 16gb.
I know we can use microSD cards, but it is not the same for many apps that need lots of space (GPS navigation, some fat games....)
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I just read in geek.com there are only 8.82Gb of internal user available space in the siny S4.
I would like to find out if this true for all versions and countries or if this is some carrier's wrongdoing.
I have not received my own S4, so I cannot speak for myself yet, but if you guys can confirm this, I am going to reconsider upgrading to the i9505 16gb.
I know we can use microSD cards, but it is not the same for many apps that need lots of space (GPS navigation, some fat games....)
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I was in an AT&T store yesterday and looked at available storage. It was about 9.3 or so. I was pretty shocked as well.
Android is becoming a teenager lol hes growing like a weed. Get the 32gb version if it isnt enough for you.
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Android is becoming a teenager lol hes growing like a weed. Get the 32gb version if it isnt enough for you.
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Because the android rom are almost 2-3gb and pre apps...
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Because the android rom are almost 2-3gb and pre apps...
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Well, my 16GB S3 (i9300) came with 11,25 user partition, but in the S4 it is 78% of that. It is a big reduction;
I would be a little less concerned if I could buy the 32 or 64gb versions today, but, at least for now, I have not seen them available anywhere.
Since they are charging even more for the S4 than they did for the S3 on launch day (699€ vs. 659€) and now storage is even cheaper, reducing the user available storage to nearly half of the advertised capacity (16gb) is outrageous.
I even could get the i9300 with a direct 10% discount (which brings it to 593€) and a 50€ gift card on launch day; This time, the best offer I could find was 70€ worth of accesories. So, less storage one year later for more money, that is what upsets me, such a great device with a cheap mistake. It is simply silly!
I would like to hear from others who already have their carrier-free S4 to enlighten us.
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Well, my 16GB S3 (i9300) came with 11,25 user partition, but in the S4 it is 78% of that. It is a big reduction;
I would be a little less concerned if I could buy the 32 or 64gb versions today, but, at least for now, I have not seen them available anywhere.
Since they are charging even more for the S4 than they did for the S3 on launch day (699€ vs. 659€) and now storage is even cheaper, reducing the user available storage to nearly half of the advertised capacity (16gb) is outrageous.
I even could get the i9300 with a direct 10% discount (which brings it to 593€) and a 50€ gift card on launch day; This time, the best offer I could find was 70€ worth of accesories. So, less storage one year later for more money, that is what upsets me, such a great device with a cheap mistake. It is simply silly!
I would like to hear from others who already have their carrier-free S4 to enlighten us.
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Why are you so nervous about the 8-9gb? the are more than enough. U can always buy a 32 or 64Gb Sd Card.
dong2007 said:
Why are you so nervous about the 8-9gb? the are more than enough. U can always buy a 32 or 64Gb Sd Card.
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I am not nervous:
copilot live (europe maps): 2.2GB
Sonic4 episode 2: 386MB
nfs: most wanted, 1.89GB
google translator: 0.98GB
Real Racing 3: 1,17Gb
Dropbox: 155Mb
Google Currents: 145Mb
Asphalt7 1,61Gb
These are apps which decide is wiser to use internal storage despite having a 64Gb card installed. Since no sd card can solve this, this is the Samsung flagship and the rivals are learning, it is absurd to have 8.8gb whith the phone brand new if they say 16GB.
Maybe Apple can get away with those kind of things, but look at what happened to HTC with their Desire (and other models) when they made the same mistake!
They can make the best device in the world, but if this is true for carrier-free phones, I believe it is a huge mistake in 700€. Not because it means is the end of the world, but because it can be a real burden, because they chose to save 20$ in the BIM in a device they are selling for 700€.
I understand the want bigger margins but they should know better.
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I am not nervous:
copilot live (europe maps): 2.2GB
Sonic4 episode 2: 386MB
nfs: most wanted, 1.89GB
google translator: 0.98GB
Real Racing 3: 1,17Gb
Dropbox: 155Mb
Google Currents: 145Mb
Asphalt7 1,61Gb
These are apps which decide is wiser to use internal storage despite having a 64Gb card installed. Since no sd card can solve this, this is the Samsung flagship and the rivals are learning.
Maybe Apple can get away with those kind of things, but look at what happened to HTC with their Desire (and other models) when they made the same mistake!
They can make the best device in the world, but if this is true for carrier-free phones, I believe it is a huge mistake in 700€. Not because it means is the end of the world, but because it can be a real burden, because they chose to save 20$ in the BIM in a device they are selling for 700€.
I understand the want bigger margins but they should know better.
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You can move most of your apps/games to your Sdcard.
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it is absurd to have 8.8gb whith the phone brand new if they say 16GB
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I´m agree with you, but this is are classic trick. Try to check Usb sticks and SSD/HDD
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You can move most of your apps/games to your Sdcard.
I´m agree with you, but this is are classic trick. Try to check Usb sticks and SSD/HDD
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yeap same issue here. I even went to Samsung store and asked to guys like, it is supposed to be 16 gb not 8 gb, they said like: you know it's the OS and other stuff, even iPhone 5 have same kind of thing, so it's not really an issue.
I was quite shocked also
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You have to root now to move to sd
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Not with JB?
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Not with JB?
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Sorry not with jelly bean not sure want you meant I'm rather tired so might not be reading it right
you have to root anything over android 4.1 to get it to work
bonjurkes said:
yeap same issue here. I even went to Samsung store and asked to guys like, it is supposed to be 16 gb not 8 gb, they said like: you know it's the OS and other stuff, even iPhone 5 have same kind of thing, so it's not really an issue.
I was quite shocked also
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sure but i phone os is only 1.5gb ...
bonjurkes said:
they said like: you know it's the OS and other stuff, even iPhone 5 have same kind of thing, so it's not really an issue.
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iPhone5 and storage: Exactly, they charge 100€/100$ more for each capacity doubling they offer and they get away... (but WE do not want an iPhone for things like that.
We like Samsung Galaxy among other things because they have expandable storage and removable battery.
But we shall not depend on rooting and tricks to get the capacity they were advertising.
In a side note, this not the same as a reported capacity in a USB drive or HDD: That is the loss inherent to file systems, spare area -where aplied- and 1000->1024 naming conventions. We suffer that in smartphones, tablets and iphones, that is NOT what I want to draw attention to.
I would like to find out which is the capacity in the unbranded carrier-free Galaxy S4, since I am waiting for my unit to come.
It seems to me it can be a deal breaker.
Spending about $20 on a 32gig MicroSD card isn't that big of a deal, i'd just keep that 8gigs for apps.
JUST ROOT
and use
FOLDERMOUNT to save to sd
Rooting to move apps to SD card is not the solution as many apps wont work if they detect device rooted. And why should we mess with a £500-600 phone like this. We didnt create the issue, Samsung and Google did.
rooting doesn't take care of app caches like Google Play etc..
The only proper solution is the 32gb or 64gb but these are not being sold readily. BTW the 32gb has about 23gb free. The UK S4 has 9.6gb free.
runaway64 said:
iPhone5 and storage: Exactly, they charge 100€/100$ more for each capacity doubling they offer and they get away... (but WE do not want an iPhone for things like that.
We like Samsung Galaxy among other things because they have expandable storage and removable battery.
But we shall not depend on rooting and tricks to get the capacity they were advertising.
In a side note, this not the same as a reported capacity in a USB drive or HDD: That is the loss inherent to file systems, spare area -where aplied- and 1000->1024 naming conventions. We suffer that in smartphones, tablets and iphones, that is NOT what I want to draw attention to.
I would like to find out which is the capacity in the unbranded carrier-free Galaxy S4, since I am waiting for my unit to come.
It seems to me it can be a deal breaker.
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8.3 gb for unbranded carrier-free S4. Built in Samsung and other apps (Flipboard, Chrome et etc) takes 600 mb. So it's like 8.3 GB - 600 mb free to use