So, does anyone know of people who sold their X10's for the oh awesome, always up to date Desire?
Laugh at them: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_will_not_be_updated_to_gingerbread-news-2779.php
:lol: to think how much bashing the X10 got especialy in X10 vs Desire discussions, X10 was rippd to shreads just cause it had 2.1, who would've thought in the end the X10 would be the better device to go with?
Loving my X10 even more now!
Don't forget we have not received Gingerbread 2.3.3 yet
Yeah. I know at least a couple of people from this forum who sold x10 for a desire. Once got into a heated discussion about what is better htc+desire or SE+x10. I guess it's an open subject until today . But don't think this news will matter that much. Most people are using custom roms amyway.
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I did, best decision ever
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isnt cm7 stable already available for the desire? cant see them needing the update to be fair, but surely they could put the htc sense ona diet and give a proper update without making that much difference.glad i chose the x10 over the desire,no comparison imho
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isnt cm7 stable already available for the desire? cant see them needing the update to be fair, but surely they could put the htc sense ona diet and give a proper update without making that much difference.glad i chose the x10 over the desire,no comparison imho
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True. They could have given gb with sense 1.x if they wanted to. But looks like they won't be doing that. Most people won't care for the update anyway. There are already tons of roms and customs kernels available for them.
you cant possibly say it kills it,because it doesnt. arent they the same processor? so u can argue you have abit more ram but like myself i have 180mb of free ram all the time so it never makes no difference to me.the screen imo isnt any better the the saturation and the colours are much more true on the x10i and the visibility in the sunlight on the x10i is faaaar superior. im not getting into no argument. but i think each have equal pros n cons
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You can overclock the desire........
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Lol you can overclock x10 too
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dtfs said:
You can overclock the desire........
Plus you can do a LOT more optimizations due to the open bootloader.
The screen isn't any better? 16 mill colors isn't any better?
I have used both extensively, (I own an x10) and without bias I will admit the desire kills the x10 in everything but appearance and camera.
People are struggling hard to try to claim everything se is better for some reason, like the arc vs. sgs2 thread on here.
It's laughable at best
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if you read the forum you would see the bootloader will be open when we receive 2.3.3 and the 16 million colours.we can and i have overclocked.the battery life on the desire sucks so does the gps so its not the perfect phone, i looked into them when i got my x10i and i picked the x10 even when it had 2.1 which says alot
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hardly...
1168 mhz is max?
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its the SAME processor!!! do you not understand that, so when we get 2.3.3 OFFICIAL and the unlocked bootloader we will be able to overclock as much as you and your beloved desire. il be happy too admit if you had a proper point in why the desire is so amazing, maybe you get 2500 quadrant scores!
I went the opposite way last week, had a desire for a year, sold it and got an x10i and 50 quid change. Im loving the bigger screen and better camera as well as more internal space. The battery life on wolfs tw007 rom is exceptional compared with the desire, i loved my htc but this certainly does not feel like a downgrade, they are very much on par in a lot of ways imho
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I have an inspire now and its a big upgrade! Multi touch, unlocked bootloader, 16mil colours, and bigger screen! The inspire is also supported by many devs. I gave my dad my beloved x10 and he asks how to fix this and that and its weird having to use the x10. Also, I can hear people when I'm in a call
I was in dilemma between the Desire and the X10 a year ago
and decided to go for the X10 because of the looks and the camera.
It comes down to personal preference, but I don't like flashing all the time,
I like to try new things but most of all, my phone is my personal phonebook/notepad/message center and so much more, so my data are precious to me
and I like to have something stable that works. And at the end of the day,
knowing myself, the only way I won't get bored is if I like what I see.
Having said that, of course Desire is a good phone, the easily unlockable bootloader is its greater plus against the X10.
But for the reasons I mentioned above, when my father asked if he could have my phone, I gave it to him gladly and went ahead and bought me a new one, in white!
Really, there's no need for heated debates. It's all about what each person wants, needs and likes. Peace!
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I have an inspire now and its a big upgrade! Multi touch, unlocked bootloader, 16mil colours, and bigger screen! The inspire is also supported by many devs. I gave my dad my beloved x10 and he asks how to fix this and that and its weird having to use the x10. Also, I can hear people when I'm in a call
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"Also, I can hear people when I'm in a call" LOOOL so lucky, if only my X10...
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The desire is better, why are people even debating that, your silly person if you honestly believe x10 is a better phone. Acquire an education redneck
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The X10 is better
The ONLY thing that made Desire better was latest updates, it has lost that now, as for developer support, X10 has plenty and can be overclocked, but why do all that when we are getting an OFFICIAL 2.3.3 ROM with the kernel to go with
The X10 has a better display in terms of quality and true 16:9 wide screen ratio.
X10 has the far better Camera plus better video recording
X10 has a larger battery with longer uptime
X10 has a better design
and now X10 will have a later version of the OS, im so glad i phjckd it over the Desire back in July, i was going to take the Desire due to latest updates, so if i had it now i would be SOOO pissed lol.
Would hate to be at the mercy of custom ROMs so early lol.
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The desire is better, why are people even debating that, your silly person if you honestly believe x10 is a better phone. Acquire an education redneck
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If the desire is better, what are you doing in the X10 forums? Do you think you can change people's opinions here?
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If the desire is better, what are you doing in the X10 forums? Do you think you can change people's opinions here?
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he is sharing his "opinion"
I sold my Desire for X10 because i didn't like its battery, it drain too quick for my use, they both have pros and cons, & its all depends on personal choice, thats why so many companies are making different models !
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The desire is better, why are people even debating that, your silly person if you honestly believe x10 is a better phone. Acquire an education redneck
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You dig the Desire, we get that and we feel for you.
You could be a little more polite though, wouldn't hurt.
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Yeah NOW it will get 2.3.3, desire had it for months now.... TONS of roms, including a fully working arc rom lol
The display on the desire is much nicer, 16 million slcd vs. 65k tft????
The battery while on custom roms is about the same
X10 does have a better camera.
If you like modding your phone (you're here aren't you?), the desire is the better choice.
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Sent from my Desire-KILLER/cracked [email protected],5Ghz/16 billion colours,multitouch,coffemachine,abs,esp,bas2,750bhp!!!!wwwwwwooooooohhhhh!!!!!
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I have an opportunity to sell my x10 and make a significant profit on what I paid, but If i do sell it, would it be worth getting a milestone etc.
Anyways, if you could trade your x10 for any phone what phone would it be?
Another x10
Probably get an iphone.. sad I know.. but it works.. and the industry that's built up around it means that you've got a spectacular array of accessories to chose from.
EDIT... Actually just need to say.. I wouldn't swap mine either!
x10 with 2.1 or just x10
i'd go with nexus one
I love my X10 Will buy again X10 with 3600-Battery
yh i cancelled it, i love my x10 too much lol
iwill get x10 but after the root
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yh i cancelled it, i love my x10 too much lol
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Very Good
I'd stick with my X10, it is just too beautiful !
My friend has a Nexus ONE and he is jealous, we did some side-by-side tests and the X10 performed better in every situation. Although as he correctly pointed out, is it worth the price difference ??? I think it is !
I wouldn't trade my X10.
I like the device now and I only see it improving with new firmware upgrades.
I do realize, as a long time SE consumer, that these upgrades will be few in number and the phone will be abandoned within a year but that's the rule of business.
Well, there are no phones on the market now worth switching with X10
But, if Motorola decides to make Motoroi available for other markets, not only Koreea, i guess i will swap it with a Motoroi.
Other way, i will buy the Galaxy S and keep both phones
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Well, there are no phones on the market now worth switching with X10
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+1.
I have it for 3 days now. If I would like another one I would buy it at the first place. For me it's the best at the moment. I love it.
Evo 4g looks sweet
i think i'd keep it, but if i had to swap it would be for the desire. my girlfriend has one and the battery life on that is a hell of a lot better!
Choose a DESIRE or LEGEND.
DON´T HESITATE!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried today both. Man the difference is without words. There are GALAXIES between.
1. Trackball (IMPORTANT, can´t live without, as i come from X1!!!!!!!!)
2. MT
3. Sense
4. Screen
What i like most is the UI of the HTC´s. Just look @ the Dialer, that says everything. (Smart Dial and so on.....)
Although i have to say that the Design of HW and SW is amazing @ X10. HTC has here to do A LOT! But thats it @X10. I USE my phone, NOT watch it....
Will sell my X10....
Personally I find the Desire so unattractive visually that I wouldn't want to use it despite the stellar job done by HTC on Sense UI, and the appealing AMOLED technology display. I don't understand the kind of customer HTC was trying to appeal to when creating the design of Desire and the Nexus One as well. These handsets remind me of a shoe's sole.
Sense is boring.
HTC's AMOLED sux in sunlight while X10's display is amazing.
Trackball... just another point of failure... 3 hardware buttons are not enough??
MT ... well, if you are a gamer but i'm not and i prefer to use my phone with one hand
Did i mention Desire is super ugly?
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Sense is boring.
Did i mention Desire is super ugly?
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Yeah, I had a very bad impression of its appearance while playing with the handset a local shop. It looks absolutely terrible. I don't understand who HTC has hired to design their Android handsets? What's with the brown color and the strange, overly oval shapes?
I Sold my Desire last week, and got an X10, the desire was a much better phone, software wise, but design factor wise the X10 is so so much better.
The Desire was boring to look at, in my opinion and to me thats important.
Thats the only reason I sold it. Sense is better, the screen is so much more sensitive, but... was completely unusable in sunlight.
The only phone I would like now is the Evo, but it wont work in the UK, so I can stop dreaming.
Bloke
I am in debate between these two phones. No Desire, for it looks effing ugly.
Why do you guys like the Xperia, are there any complaints?
OH.
How much did you pay to get your Xperia!?
I found a deal for $490 for the Xperia X10!
Any good place where I can find it cheaper?
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LEGEND SIDE THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6555078#post6555078
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I am in debate between these two phones. No Desire, for it looks effing ugly.
Why do you guys like the Xperia, are there any complaints?
OH.
How much did you pay to get your Xperia!?
I found a deal for $490 for the Xperia X10!
Any good place where I can find it cheaper?
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LEGEND SIDE THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6555078#post6555078
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the legend is an excellent hassle free phone but its got nothing on the xperia.
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I found a deal for $490 for the Xperia X10!
Any good place where I can find it cheaper?
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Well you can get my x10, it's like new, for $450, cheaper
anyway, to the point you were asking, legend vs x10 is no contest, it would make more sense of you are choosing between x10 and desire, I would always take x10 over legend
x10 for sure
X10 huh... Why... it's running older software?
bigger screen ,higher resolution , better camera, higher processor
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bigger screen ,higher resolution , better camera, higher processor
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All true. But rumor has it you prefer the HD2 over the X10, why?
Hi - I have the X10.. my wife has the Legend.. Her phone is the best for her.. mine is the best for me...
You need to think about what you want the phone to do for you..
Right now the only real issue with the x10 is the battery life, but most, including me, have found ways to manage that so that you can comfortably get a day out of it.
The other "issue" with the X10 is SE's lack of respect for it's customers where we ask questions and they either ignore it, or give you a useless answer...
Finally.. the showcase apps of Timescape and Mediascape are quite immature and need a lot of further development.
Other than that it's a great phone, and I love it.. I wouldn't trade it for my wife's Legend (which is also a very good looking bit of kit..) ....
At the end of the day it will come down to how you feel about the 2 options, based on what you want to do with it.
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Hi - I have the X10.. my wife has the Legend.. Her phone is the best for her.. mine is the best for me...
You need to think about what you want the phone to do for you..
Right now the only real issue with the x10 is the battery life, but most, including me, have found ways to manage that so that you can comfortably get a day out of it.
The other "issue" with the X10 is SE's lack of respect for it's customers where we ask questions and they either ignore it, or give you a useless answer...
Finally.. the showcase apps of Timescape and Mediascape are quite immature and need a lot of further development.
Other than that it's a great phone, and I love it.. I wouldn't trade it for my wife's Legend (which is also a very good looking bit of kit..) ....
At the end of the day it will come down to how you feel about the 2 options, based on what you want to do with it.
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Very well put. Best advice in my opinion.
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Hi - I have the X10.. my wife has the Legend.. Her phone is the best for her.. mine is the best for me...
You need to think about what you want the phone to do for you..
Right now the only real issue with the x10 is the battery life, but most, including me, have found ways to manage that so that you can comfortably get a day out of it.
The other "issue" with the X10 is SE's lack of respect for it's customers where we ask questions and they either ignore it, or give you a useless answer...
Finally.. the showcase apps of Timescape and Mediascape are quite immature and need a lot of further development.
Other than that it's a great phone, and I love it.. I wouldn't trade it for my wife's Legend (which is also a very good looking bit of kit..) ....
At the end of the day it will come down to how you feel about the 2 options, based on what you want to do with it.
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Yes, I agree very good advice.. Now I just need to figure out which one is for me.. *sigh. I wish they had an X10 with 2.1 or 2.2 w/multitouch in a Legend's body.
You can get it for 420 new, well in Canada you can.
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You can get it for 420 new, well in Canada you can.
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How? And where??
well, off a kijiji, I posted an add and I got replied from a dude selling it for 420 new....
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All true. But rumor has it you prefer the HD2 over the X10, why?
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i really prefere hd2 over the x10 ,but i love both very much ,they complete each other ,but if x10 is rooted it will be much more better than hd2
Hello my fellow XDA people! I have a little story to tell. Now, when someone would make a post saying something like "Im no longer an X10 user" or "one less X10 user" I would be the first to post a reply saying how its a useless topic. But this story is slightly different and may help people down the road make decisions. I recently owned an Xperia X10, rooted with nordic 2.1 firmware. And it was great. I sold my X10, and got a hardware upgrade to the Galaxy S Captivate. Then I outright bought a Samsung Focus WP7 from Rogers (which is actually awesome). Through the whole time I sold my X10, I actually thought about how I missed it! See, now that I played with and actually used a so-called higher end android device like the Galaxy S Captivate, I can honestly say the X10 was a much nicer phone for me! Even tho the Galaxy had all those nice specs...I didn't find it anything special. The Samsung Focus, which is WP7 was actually a much much nicer experience then the Galaxy was...and I gave the Focus to my gf. I have now sold my Galaxy S and am getting back my baby tomorrow (xperia x10). So, I guess my point to this story is, even tho a device can have higher and better specs...it doesn't mean its going to be a "better" device for "you"!
Please welcome me back to the X10 Forums!!! I can't wait til tomorrow
Welcome back!
welcome back
welcome back! X10 FTW
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Hello my fellow XDA people! I have a little story to tell. Now, when someone would make a post saying something like "Im no longer an X10 user" or "one less X10 user" I would be the first to post a reply saying how its a useless topic. But this story is slightly different and may help people down the road make decisions. I recently owned an Xperia X10, rooted with nordic 2.1 firmware. And it was great. I sold my X10, and got a hardware upgrade to the Galaxy S Captivate. Then I outright bought a Samsung Focus WP7 from Rogers (which is actually awesome). Through the whole time I sold my X10, I actually thought about how I missed it! See, now that I played with and actually used a so-called higher end android device like the Galaxy S Captivate, I can honestly say the X10 was a much nicer phone for me! Even tho the Galaxy had all those nice specs...I didn't find it anything special. The Samsung Focus, which is WP7 was actually a much much nicer experience then the Galaxy was...and I gave the Focus to my gf. I have now sold my Galaxy S and am getting back my baby tomorrow (xperia x10). So, I guess my point to this story is, even tho a device can have higher and better specs...it doesn't mean its going to be a "better" device for "you"!
Please welcome me back to the X10 Forums!!! I can't wait til tomorrow
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But you din't tell us what's thing/things you've missed during that period ? ...I mean Galaxy S captivate has everything just like X10, infact a lil better specs and user reviews , both are android , but what actually made you miss X10 buddy ? ... Is it your own sentimental reason or what's that THING you din't find using other good devices ?
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But you din't tell us what's thing/things you've missed during that period ? ...I mean Galaxy S captivate has everything just like X10, infact a lil better specs and user reviews , both are android , but what actually made you miss X10 buddy ? ... Is it your own sentimental reason or what's that THING you din't find using other good devices ?
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Ok, well first things first. I once bought a Nexus One, when I received it it was running android 2.1 update1. So of course I started hitting the Nexus One forums only to find out froyo was coming soon,,,and its a big deal, its gonna be amazing, this that and the other thing. Once I received froyo on my Nexus, I thought to myself, this is really no better at all. I didn't notice any significant speed difference, nothing was better...just a few more features that I had no use for. The point of this is, 2.1 is very sufficient for my needs. So, even if the X10 doesn't get 2.2 I couldn't care. I then sold the Nexus for the Xperia X10 which I was originally eyeing up anyways. 1.6 was on the X10 was actually more enjoyable than the Nexus imo. Then, I rooted the X10 and upgraded to 2.1. Deleted a bunch of useless stuff like "timescape" "face recognition" etc etc..that just bogged it down. My X10 was seriously running FAST!
So, I was due a hardware upgrade, I heared all this talk about the Galaxy,,,so thats what I did. To me, the overall experience of the galaxy wasn't impressive at all...I don't install alot of apps, I dont play alot of games, so the high specs aren't much to me. I however am a huge picture and video taking person. One area where the X10 completely outshinned the galaxy....My pictures from my X10 were compared to those of the galaxy and well....they just dont compare...which is important to me. The videos were good on both phones, but the X10 seemes slightly nicer.
See, what Im saying is the Galaxy didnt do anything better for me that the X10 didn't do....except the X10 outclasses it when it came to photography and video. That is why I switched back.
I cant say the Galaxy sucks...it doesn't suck...its just the X10 was on par with it even with the lower specs from my experience...as for the super amoled screen..its nice...but the higher resolution on the X10 makes it really nice as well...especially since 2.1.
I am in no way bashing the Galaxy....just wasn't as impressive as said.
Wow! and sorry for the long ass post
damn, I'd welcome you back with arms wide open dude (no bromance intended). that's why I've been sticking with SE all these years, nothing beats them, really. welcome back.
you cheated on your x10 ...... ... hhhh welcome back
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you cheated on your x10 ...... ... hhhh welcome back
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I know!!! Twice! With 2 different samsung phones!!! What was i thinking? I begged her to take me back...i told her i changed lol.
lol nice to see someone appreciating the X10 :-D
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Ok, well first things first. I once bought a Nexus One, when I received it it was running android 2.1 update1. So of course I started hitting the Nexus One forums only to find out froyo was coming soon,,,and its a big deal, its gonna be amazing, this that and the other thing. Once I received froyo on my Nexus, I thought to myself, this is really no better at all. I didn't notice any significant speed difference, nothing was better...just a few more features that I had no use for. The point of this is, 2.1 is very sufficient for my needs. So, even if the X10 doesn't get 2.2 I couldn't care. I then sold the Nexus for the Xperia X10 which I was originally eyeing up anyways. 1.6 was on the X10 was actually more enjoyable than the Nexus imo. Then, I rooted the X10 and upgraded to 2.1. Deleted a bunch of useless stuff like "timescape" "face recognition" etc etc..that just bogged it down. My X10 was seriously running FAST!
So, I was due a hardware upgrade, I heared all this talk about the Galaxy,,,so thats what I did. To me, the overall experience of the galaxy wasn't impressive at all...I don't install alot of apps, I dont play alot of games, so the high specs aren't much to me. I however am a huge picture and video taking person. One area where the X10 completely outshinned the galaxy....My pictures from my X10 were compared to those of the galaxy and well....they just dont compare...which is important to me. The videos were good on both phones, but the X10 seemes slightly nicer.
See, what Im saying is the Galaxy didnt do anything better for me that the X10 didn't do....except the X10 outclasses it when it came to photography and video. That is why I switched back.
I cant say the Galaxy sucks...it doesn't suck...its just the X10 was on par with it even with the lower specs from my experience...as for the super amoled screen..its nice...but the higher resolution on the X10 makes it really nice as well...especially since 2.1.
I am in no way bashing the Galaxy....just wasn't as impressive as said.
Wow! and sorry for the long ass post
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I actually really liked this post because:
a) it was not offensive towards any company/user group
b) you wisely used the phrase "for me" a lot
c) it made perfect sense -much unlike similar posts I've seen around here.
So, welcome back, the community needs people like you!
Now, since we're talking about it, I've always stated that X10 might not be "up-to-date" as far as Android version go, but still it is an amazing phone.
I've had it for 6 months and for the first time in years, I really don't want to switch to any other device. I even played with a Desire HD and even though I know it is supposed to be better, I don't think that it can replace my X10.
All in all, it's what matters for each user. Of course, more advanced and better phones will always appear, but if a phone works for your needs, you don't have to toss it or moan about it -or both!
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I actually really liked this post because:
a) it was not offensive towards any company/user group
b) you wisely used the phrase "for me" a lot
c) it made perfect sense -much unlike similar posts I've seen around here.
So, welcome back, the community needs people like you!
Now, since we're talking about it, I've always stated that X10 might not be "up-to-date" as far as Android version go, but still it is an amazing phone.
I've had it for 6 months and for the first time in years, I really don't want to switch to any other device. I even played with a Desire HD and even though I know it is supposed to be better, I don't think that it can replace my X10.
All in all, it's what matters for each user. Of course, more advanced and better phones will always appear, but if a phone works for your needs, you don't have to toss it or moan about it -or both!
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Agreed. Very good post. Welcome back.
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My_Immortal said:
I actually really liked this post because:
a) it was not offensive towards any company/user group
b) you wisely used the phrase "for me" a lot
c) it made perfect sense -much unlike similar posts I've seen around here.
So, welcome back, the community needs people like you!
Now, since we're talking about it, I've always stated that X10 might not be "up-to-date" as far as Android version go, but still it is an amazing phone.
I've had it for 6 months and for the first time in years, I really don't want to switch to any other device. I even played with a Desire HD and even though I know it is supposed to be better, I don't think that it can replace my X10.
All in all, it's what matters for each user. Of course, more advanced and better phones will always appear, but if a phone works for your needs, you don't have to toss it or moan about it -or both!
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Exactly! The tech specs of phones shouldnt reveal if that phone is best for "yourself".
I couldnt think of any other phone i want right now except for my x10. And selling my x10 for higher end phones was a mistake since the higher end phone didnt give me whats most important to myself.... (photography/video)
Thanks for the welcome back guys...first thing im gonna do when i get back my x10 today is take a picture and post it lol.
Welcome back and be happy again when you've got your X10
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Welcome back and be happy again when you've got your X10
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Thanks! And i was happy with my x10....i just thought i could get even better.....guess i was wrong lol.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Ok, well first things first. I once bought a Nexus One, when I received it it was running android 2.1 update1. So of course I started hitting the Nexus One forums only to find out froyo was coming soon,,,and its a big deal, its gonna be amazing, this that and the other thing. Once I received froyo on my Nexus, I thought to myself, this is really no better at all. I didn't notice any significant speed difference, nothing was better...just a few more features that I had no use for. The point of this is, 2.1 is very sufficient for my needs. So, even if the X10 doesn't get 2.2 I couldn't care. I then sold the Nexus for the Xperia X10 which I was originally eyeing up anyways. 1.6 was on the X10 was actually more enjoyable than the Nexus imo. Then, I rooted the X10 and upgraded to 2.1. Deleted a bunch of useless stuff like "timescape" "face recognition" etc etc..that just bogged it down. My X10 was seriously running FAST!
So, I was due a hardware upgrade, I heared all this talk about the Galaxy,,,so thats what I did. To me, the overall experience of the galaxy wasn't impressive at all...I don't install alot of apps, I dont play alot of games, so the high specs aren't much to me. I however am a huge picture and video taking person. One area where the X10 completely outshinned the galaxy....My pictures from my X10 were compared to those of the galaxy and well....they just dont compare...which is important to me. The videos were good on both phones, but the X10 seemes slightly nicer.
See, what Im saying is the Galaxy didnt do anything better for me that the X10 didn't do....except the X10 outclasses it when it came to photography and video. That is why I switched back.
I cant say the Galaxy sucks...it doesn't suck...its just the X10 was on par with it even with the lower specs from my experience...as for the super amoled screen..its nice...but the higher resolution on the X10 makes it really nice as well...especially since 2.1.
I am in no way bashing the Galaxy....just wasn't as impressive as said.
Wow! and sorry for the long ass post
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Yea !! Its pretty clear now
I totally agree with you !!
I tested Iphone 4,Galaxy S,Desire HD and all are very nice, but i stick with my X10. And when Sony release MT, maybe 16m Colors and Froyo it will be much nicer.
And no other Device beats the X10 in Design, SE did a very good job at this.
Wolfbreak said:
I tested Iphone 4,Galaxy S,Desire HD and all are very nice, but i stick with my X10. And when Sony release MT, maybe 16m Colors and Froyo it will be much nicer.
And no other Device beats the X10 in Design, SE did a very good job at this.
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No doubt about that... Full marks to design department.
People here really like the look and feel of this phone even when i told them about absence of MT and 16 million colors and the 2.1 version :-D
@Op : welcome back dude
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you are very welcome back bro. i had the same experince before and to be honest I LOVE MY X10.
just a small note: i think you should change your signature to be;
Now a very proud owner of the old fellow xperia x10.....and I LOVE IT!!!!
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spider05906 said:
you are very welcome back bro. i had the same experince before and to be honest I LOVE MY X10.
just a small note: i think you should change your signature to be;
Now a very proud owner of the old fellow xperia x10.....and I LOVE IT!!!!
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I cant yet...i havent officially got back my x10 yet....should be today sometime...then ill change it
The new SE Xperia Arc looks good.
Opinions on which one you would choose...
Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
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i got rid of my SEx10 for my DHD, now the wait for the 2.1 upgrade for my X10 was well worth it but , i think im going to stick to my DHD for the time being as the ARC would be good should you want an upgrade
Sony means good hardware and horrible software support. By the time Gingerbread was releasing they were finally getting around to updating the X10 to Eclair.
If you are ok with being stuck with the same software version for the next two years I'd say go Sony.
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The Arc looks like a great handset but Sony (along with Samsung and LG in my experience) seem to have a history of failing to support their phones as soon as new ones come out... so personally I'd rule it out because of that.
Still, who needs manufacturer support when we have XDA
I had to get rid of my X10 too, i would not recommend getting an SE phone, at least not at launch.
The x10 was a joke. (Although still the best looking phone ive seen to date)
i have to be honest the Arc was tempting me. It looks absolutely awesome, it has HDMI out which i really wish the DHD could have, and it has this really hyped up camera technology which is great for low light photos i hear (SE cameras are great in general). Also people are praising the screen which is using bravia technology.
But alas, sony's really poor support with software, and thir god aweful ui on their phones is keeping me from getting one. I hear the X10 still doesnt have custom roms on it yet. that's another major drawback for it imo.
I'll be sticking with HTC for now.
Having only just got rid of the x10, i feel sony was a really big let down....custom roms are only just turning up, unlocking the bootloader looks to be very long way away. and the kernel which at this mo can still not be flashed and is holding what could of been a great phone back.Not many Devs working on the handset so it will take longer.
Sony are ment to have good cameras but the x10 was ok ish..
SunjinSak said:
Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
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Exactly what I was thinking.
I mean don't get me wrong the X12 looks amzing and feature packed but after what happened to the X10 I don't think I can trust SE again with software updates.
There have been a lot of cool phones been announced at CES but tbh no other manufacturer has made a phone that I personally would want to buy, i'm stuck on HTC! I am really happy with the desire HD!
The main reason for xda exsisted was HTC phones, no other phones gets as much support dev wise, that why I always buy HTC, of course they great hardware and experience. Samsung come a close 2nd these days.
But Sony Arc and even LG Star might look like great phones but with no community support, they are dead in my eyes.
The only other phone I'd consider which isn't HTC or Sammy would be Atrix the new moto phone, but then again moto in Europe has poor support, and they tend have stupid bootloader.
i have a contract up in april and i think i will get the LG star the screen looks so good and a good battery music to my ears
also just incase you think i am anti HTC i have DHD my wife has desire and my little girl has my old HD2 running cm7 gingerbread on nand.
i dumped my x10 after their growing debate on multi touch and its poor battery life
ever since i gotten my DHD i'm so pleased i finally got HTC sense + the HTC keyboard that i didn't need to hack to get
don't think i'll switch back unless the arc has a better battery, i'm not too pleased with my DHD's battery
My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.
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My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.
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Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed. I for one am confident that we will get official Gingerbread with HTC sense this quarter and it wouldn't surprise me if the Desire got it in short order too.
As for X12 users they may well be stuck on Gingerbread forever. That wouldn't be a bad thing because its hard fault Gingerbread it feels like the coming of age for Android to me but when Honeycomb comes I will want it even if the new features don't change the way I use my phone on a daily basis, only because I am a geek and want new features to play with.
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Until Sony releasing an android walkman, am sticking to desire HD
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Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed.
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Yeah, exactly. She won't even let me root her phone so I can put FroYo on it! She even refused to put the OTA to 2.1 on until I begged her as it would fix the things she was moaning about!
So I think the Arc will probably be ideal for her. I'm sticking to my S-OFF, Rooted DHD though
There is a video of the arcs UI in action in engadget and let's just say Sony is still bad with software it looks very slow and lags a bit in the video. I guess don't might work it out before release but the if the x10 is any thing to go buy then I would advise to stay away from the arc.
Imo Sony and any compact for that matter would sell loads more units if they would just put stock android builds on their devices as it stands only HTC sense seems decent and even then I'd prefer stock
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I will not buy a SonyEricsson any time soon again...
I have my X10 lying in a drawer only as a toy, and spare phone...
The fact that Sonyericsson is lightyears behind HTC with firmware and other software, and the fact that they abandon a device like the flagship x10 after only 8 month on the marked, speak for it self...
And when they say that the new ARC is 4 times faster than the old x10, they hide the fact that the x10 also could be more than 4 times faster with optimized and new firmware...! the xda devs have proved that already...
Sonyericsson say they never will update the x10 to android 2,3 or even to 2,2, as they say that the users will gain nothing from that...
So x10 will be stuck on android 2,1...
And ARC users need to expect the same will happen to them also, don't expect to get newer firmware than what you buy the phone with...
The ARC don't even have dualcore, that many other manufacturs are planning to send out now...
I will personal NOT buy it, I would look at the LG X2 or wait for HTC to send out new handsets...
Buy a Sonyericsson and expect to get ****ed by them...
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Never buy or wait for a smartphone from SE. it is simply not worth it.
they promise you whatever you want to hear/read but they fail to deliver in all categories. i bought a p990i and and xperia-x1 and the story is always the same: first they announce a model, then they move the release over and over again up to 6-12 months. they rarely make more then 1 update/hotfix. they fail to upgrade the OS in a reasonable time (if they even consider it). they drop support on phones pretty fast.
service, support and updates: FAIL
i did observe this on: p990i, p1, x1, x10 ...
they even released android 1.6 phones in the US after most other companys switched to frojo ...
-QuadWord
Dual cures core phones are not exciting me much at all. They are worthless until there is an Android os which is optimized for them, and apps won't benefit until they are optimized for dual core.
Just like when the first 64 bit desktop cpu came out. Most people were still using 32 bit os on them until very recently because most software was and still is 32 bit anyway.
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Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
Desire HD is great, but everybody sais that the battery last only for a half day. If I were you I would get a Nexus S or a Galaxy S (maybe Desire Z)
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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Dont think they have it in phones4u yet
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To tell the truth I don't really know the possibilities in thr UK, all I know is that you can buy it, but maybe not at orange
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Desire HD or Nexus S :-D
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One of the nexus phones or Desire HD. Or that moto droid 2 global. Dunno if moto will update it though
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go3asy said:
Well being on my second handset and having serious problems the that even the shop cannot get sony to sort out [virtually un usable reboots + overheating] I may be getting offered a new contract if they can rather than a 3rd x10. What would you go for? UK - Orange, thinking desire HD. Love my x10 appart from all the problems with my un-luckiness but never mind will be glad to be rid of the problems
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4G capable.
Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
Do you think you could get a short term phone.. and then arc?
I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Agree 100%
better to get Galaxy S . HTC's service is good but i didn't like most of their smartphones i bought (Pure - HD - Diamond ) And they have a bad signal and battery doesn't last long.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
augie7107 said:
Couldn't agree with you more. I actually went through X1, X2 and X10 before I woke up.
You won't have to worry about buying the Arc anyway. It will be released 6-9 months late like every other SE "flagship".
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kinda long wait but i might say it will come out till 2.3 gets old
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I think stock android is extremely ugly. And also, the Nexus S isn't exactly a looker... might be hard to adjust from the X10
I say wait for the Arc
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I actually think the blue SE skin looks dreadful.
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I also think you should go for the Arc at least i am. I have been extremely happy with the X10 and dont really care about SE Updates being late as all i care is being able to mod it and have devs supporting it. All the people complaining from SE are just ...idk you decide, just look at all other companies Apple, Samsung, Htc they all have their own problems just look in their forums and see the same story..people screaming f..k Samsung never again f...k Htc etc.. I really do a lot and i mean alot of research before i buy a phone and let me tell you the x10 suited me alot more than a galaxy s or a desire or an iphone and ive had the galaxy s (just horrible phone...fast but unreliable plastic garbage so i said never Samsung) and i still have an iphone 4 well my wife does..that phone is so limited its not even funny..anyway all im saying is do not listen to never SE again and etc.. SE have been making nothing but great reliable devices. Now the Arc is coming with the latest software so i dont think you should worry about any updates soon and plus x10 has a very good comunity here and i beleive the Arc will also and it will probably be the same people that own the x10 and more. Do your research and see what you like and what you want to do with the phone, remember its what you like not someone else.
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I think you'd have to be retarded to buy an arc personally.. after seeing how they do business.
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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I think they are changing their strategy.. they admitted that they went about the X10 series in the wrong way.. I'm going to wait for the Q2 flagship, which should be a dualcore with ffc(not that i need one) but it will be a lot snappier I hope
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By saying "We know we made mistakes..... butttt we aren't going to do anything about it", they are simply trying to convince previous customers this experience will be better, while at the same time winning over new customers who might have heard bad things about the x10, et al.
Just a lame marketing ploy. Now, if they were willing to actually step up and at least give us froyo, I, for one, would change my tune greatly.
I would be telling my friends to get the arc instead of the opposite (as I do love my x10, thanks to the community on here.), as I just hate the way sony ericsson choose to do business.
The Arc looks so good, I'm willing to forgive any of SE's sins
One device I'd really like to have in the interim is a Desire Z. 1.8Ghz baby
The Desire Z (T-mobile G2) is almost universally considered to be a good device. Better battery life than Desire HD i think. LOTS of developer support.
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Anything not maunfactured by Sony Ericsson.
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Too right, never getting an SE phone again.
Nexus is my next phone... in 23 months lol :|