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[Q] Point in Apps2SD?

So i've done a little reading and here's my question:
The only point in moving your apps to your sd card is if you're out of space on internal memory. However, with apps in the range of ~1MB each, exactly HOW many apps does one need to download in order to run out of space?
I'm kind of reluctant do move them to the sd card since they'll generally load slower, probably operate slower if they need to load resources off it during runtime.
Is it really that easy to run out of space and, if yes, exactly how much is the slowdown from the memory card?
Thanks

It fills up fast, trust me.

Let's say you have around 80 mb left with a clean installed rom.
games can be about 13-20 MB each
normal apps usaly around 500 kb to 4mb
after maybe 15 apps and 4 games your are filled

After downloading Angry Birds I have 1 mb left of space.

how do i move apps to the sd?

Mariusrapi said:
how do i move apps to the sd?
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you need to have a custom rom with app2sd enabled, like wildpuzzle or Openfire.
After you have partitioned the sd card, it will increase the internal memory with the partioned part. Kinda like trick the phone that you have more internal memory then you already have.

Is it possible to just install apps2sd on a rooted stock ROM? WildPuzzle is too unstable for me and CM6 isn't out yet.

Have you tried openfire, I have never had to battery pull, it has JIT and is the fastest available ROM.

gonna give it a go now. If not I'll make with with a stock ROM for now.

What we should do with low internal memory? step back to sd? :(

Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....

hossshad said:
Hi
first off all I should thanks all developers of hd2 andriod who are the reason that we are always excited with our Hd2.
After Refreshing xda site for every 3 hours to see the nand release I finally managed to get the news...
After installing the nand version I was so excited speed was great battery life superb and extremely stable
so I have started migrating from my ram version to nand version
Soon I was installing my apps from market until I reached an error that I've never seen before "LOW MEMORY " I was shocked I checked the space and saw I only had 1 mb free space
I searched the forum and found out that some users has 100mb while some had 600mb free after installation, I thought it might be my and other mistakes which led to 100mb but after reading more I've found all 512mb rom HD2 will have 100mb free internal memory after installation
So if its gonna be like that I think I should step back to SD version only coz of internal memory,
I wanna know your suggestions.. or solution? Ive already tried moving some apps to sd but guys.... not all of them have the ability....
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well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
in the meanwhile use apps like move2sd to install apps to SD...
oh i have LEO1024 no issues here

I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.

i have like 700mb

I think that this thread is not for boasting about your Leo1024, but it rather raises an important issue. While ROMs from NAND are a big step ahead, running out of space is a serious problem, especially today, when apps can take about 20-30 mb (i.e. Opera Mobile 10, Firefox 4 with cache).
I see three possible solutions to this problem:
- using native froyo apps2fat, while being problematic, it's simple and available out of the box
- wait for developers to allow us to use data.img on our SD Card, like in good old SD Card builds
- or use apps2ext like all other Android users do (when it'll be possible).

Just down the App 2 SD app off market and move all the apps you downloaded to sd and that should free up your internal memory

mally2 said:
well hope the Devs will get EURO HD2 owners a ext4 partition on SD that will act as internal memory... i guess its being thought about.
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Has anyone done this before?

I am getting the same problem... I hope a solution for this comes up fast.... nbot able to install any games....

I am using MDJ Gingerbread NAND Rom, and the solution I found was to move apps to SD using Titanium Backup paid app. Worth the price, trust me.

berbecverde said:
I just flashed the NEXUSHD2 and i have 216 mb of free space,that is more than enough for me.
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216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.

this has been an issue since back in the days of the G1, not enough internal memory, this is why a lot of the newer android devices come with a bigger internal memory, apps2sd will solve the problem, so you can install apps on the sd card instead of the internal memory. You need to add it before you start to install apps to keep the internal memory at max.

I went into the system folder and deleted stuff i didnt need like ringtones, alarms, notifications, wallpapers. Left me with some amount of space but yeah, the real solution are apps that move apps to sd.

You guys are in luck. Takaaki has posted a test build he made for himself that can store the data on the sd card. You can even use your old hd2one data.img if you have used it before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It's a test build and he won't be answering questions.

spyb0y said:
216 mb of free space for me to, with the exact same ROM.
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same as me....i love this rom alot

[Q] These is no storage left. wtf

Im using CM7 RC1 on wildfire, i have 800mb left on SD card, but now my programs cannot be moved to SD card, because it says no more storage left on SD card. And this problem is after i instaled CM7 RC1

And this is dev related..... how??
As for ur question, I have no idea.
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Just format your sd and try again?
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Maybe your partition is not big enough?

big enough. i say its 800mb free

Yes , You have 800 mb but on general partion.Check out how much space you have on ext partitions.
I check it in the easiest way without anyy software.I'm connectin WF to my TV and get in USB and there are few drivers to choose then check info about and here it is.
Or with some kind of software in PC

Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.

I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em

vilks said:
Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
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Moving to SD does not move the whole app to SD many times. Internal memory is occupied too, maybe 25 mb is too less? What's the exact error msg that its giving?

Have the same problem.
As far as i know APP2SD doesnt use the ext partition (just the Darktremor Apps2SD does) - but the APP uses the Froyo/Gingerbread buildin function and just saves some amount of the Apps to the SD card.
Somehow it worked for me if i try it a 2nd time (or after restarting the device in begin - after it worked fine for me).
But sometimes if I install apps it also tells me - not enough space - and i have 37MB internal left - even the app is just about 500kb.... - anyway it also works if i just try agains ome seconds later.
Annoying - but perhaps also works for u

Formiak said:
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Could you also tell us how 2 make bigger internal !??! If I dont want to disasemble my device and replace a chip?
As far as i know u just can get bigger internal space by moving apps or systemparts to the SD card... and thats where he has problems.
(But yes many custom roms already do it a bit: dalvik cache,.. - but u need 2 reflash another rom.... not part of this discussin atm i think)

i didnt have any problems with 2.3 nightly 49# and other nightlys or even 2.2 roms. But with new 2.3 RC1 i have these problems. so im moving to other rom

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Out of Space ?

Hi all, recently I keep getting running out of space warnings.
16 Gb TF with 64Gb micoSD.
Have been using LiquidSmooth, EOS3 and Revolution 3.6 all give me same warnings, things like Downloads , Pictures , Movie and Music all stored on MicroSD.
It is only recently that this has happened and my thoughts were the updated apps are hogging memory or mounting points changed by an installation.
Anyone else noticed this
current free memory on internal storage is 508mb
Is there an app to resolve these issues ?

Look for an app called DiskUsage on the market. It will break down your disk space to see where it is being used. You can remove files directly but be careful.

tonydevon said:
Hi all, recently I keep getting running out of space warnings.
16 Gb TF with 64Gb micoSD.
Have been using LiquidSmooth, EOS3 and Revolution 3.6 all give me same warnings, things like Downloads , Pictures , Movie and Music all stored on MicroSD.
It is only recently that this has happened and my thoughts were the updated apps are hogging memory or mounting points changed by an installation.
Anyone else noticed this
current free memory on internal storage is 508mb
Is there an app to resolve these issues ?
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First start with clearing out all your OLD back ups, install zip files, and see if that works. Worked wonders on mine.

[Q] Unable to move apps to external SD on rooted phone

Hi!
So yeah i have a rooted i9505
When i select the option move to SD card it loads about a minute and says its on the SD card
But its still on the internal phone memory (well sometimes a few mbs of huge GBs games.
I also tried Link2SD and created a second EXT2 partition on my sd card and it said everything was correct
But even after "linking" the apps and it says they are linked correctly its still on the internal memory
How can i solve this?
I also already formated the card in the phone itself
Thanks

xeph20 said:
Hi!
So yeah i have a rooted i9505
When i select the option move to SD card it loads about a minute and says its on the SD card
But its still on the internal phone memory (well sometimes a few mbs of huge GBs games.
I also tried Link2SD and created a second EXT2 partition on my sd card and it said everything was correct
But even after "linking" the apps and it says they are linked correctly its still on the internal memory
How can i solve this?
I also already formated the card in the phone itself
Thanks
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As for your first paragraph, it is working exactly as it is supposed to. In that regard there is nothing to solve.
As for the second, are you entirely sure that you're not merely viewing the symlinks that point to your sd card?
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najaboy said:
As for your first paragraph, it is working exactly as it is supposed to. In that regard there is nothing to solve.
As for the second, are you entirely sure that you're not merely viewing the symlinks that point to your sd card?
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Well when i "Link" them to the ext sd partition and i look at downloaded apps or all apps it says 1 gb free
But when i look at "storage" it still says 1 gb free but the bar above shows almost about 1/4 free from 9.23 gb
So i think it maybe works but storage and apps still says its on internal?

xeph20 said:
Well when i "Link" them to the ext sd partition and i look at downloaded apps or all apps it says 1 gb free
But when i look at "storage" it still says 1 gb free but the bar above shows almost about 1/4 free from 9.23 gb
So i think it maybe works but storage and apps still says its on internal?
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See use foldermount

qazmed said:
See use foldermount
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storagemount also says 8.2 from 9.2 gb used internal
and ext2 sd 213 MB used but they were already used for formatting to ext2
and one game just dissapeared with Link2sd
i think thats why the bar shows less i cant find the game anywhere
Very strange
Edit
I rebooted the device after relinking in link2sd and now the dissapeared game is back in the list but now also the bar shows almost full so it was indeed because of the game
but i still cant get them on the partition while it says its there