Hi guys,
I'm on my second transformer in a week and going back and forth between keeping it or going for another replacement. Let me address my question though.
Can those of you with this device confirm whether or not you have a perfectly constructed Transformer? What I mean by that, for the most part, is that it's devoid of the various hardware defects that people are complaining about. These include poor touch response on the screen (having to double touch, or it doesn't work at all), speaker balance issues, light bleed, and screen-to-bezel separation.
My first TF from Amazon had the speaker issue where the right was much louder than the left. However, that was the ONLY problem with it. There was no light bleed and the screen, from what I can remember, did not have any noticeable separation.
My replacement came from Newegg, and the good news is that the speakers both work great. The bad news is I have a SLIGHT light bleed down in the UI menu at the bottom of the screen when in landscape mode, and I would say a moderate issue of the screen being separated from the bezel. A lot of people seemed to not notice this second issue until they starting looking closer at their own TFs. Basically, run your finger around that little black line that links your screen to the case. Is it seamless with the glass or does it stick out?
I'm beginning to question my OCD at this point, but if people really can confirm for me they have 0 light bleed and seamless screens I think I will keep returning until I can get what I would consider a perfect replacement.
All feedback appreciated! Thanks!
ria_drizzt said:
Hi guys,
I'm on my second transformer in a week and going back and forth between keeping it or going for another replacement. Let me address my question though.
Can those of you with this device confirm whether or not you have a perfectly constructed Transformer? What I mean by that, for the most part, is that it's devoid of the various hardware defects that people are complaining about. These include poor touch response on the screen (having to double touch, or it doesn't work at all), speaker balance issues, light bleed, and screen-to-bezel separation.
My first TF from Amazon had the speaker issue where the right was much louder than the left. However, that was the ONLY problem with it. There was no light bleed and the screen, from what I can remember, did not have any noticeable separation.
My replacement came from Newegg, and the good news is that the speakers both work great. The bad news is I have a SLIGHT light bleed down in the UI menu at the bottom of the screen when in landscape mode, and I would say a moderate issue of the screen being separated from the bezel. A lot of people seemed to not notice this second issue until they starting looking closer at their own TFs. Basically, run your finger around that little black line that links your screen to the case. Is it seamless with the glass or does it stick out?
I'm beginning to question my OCD at this point, but if people really can confirm for me they have 0 light bleed and seamless screens I think I will keep returning until I can get what I would consider a perfect replacement.
All feedback appreciated! Thanks!
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Don't exchange right away. Wait till the last minute (of your return period) so you'll get the latest batch.
You know it is a file config fix for the speakers? You may be kicking yourself if that was your only problem and you now have one with lightbleed!
Paradaz, I found that out after sending it back to Amazon. :-(
I am kicking myself and doing it pretty hard.
I also found out I get the pleasure of paying shipping costs because I bought my second one through Newegg (Amazon was out so could only refund at the time).
I have decided the screen separation is making me too nervous, so here's to hoping the 3rd time is a charm.
Mine should arrive tomorrow or Tuesday I bought it through Wal-Mart .com. I'll report back if I see any issues mentioned. These things are selling like hot cakes though, it pretty amazing.
Mine should show up from Amazon tomorrow and I am all paranoid by everyone having issues so either I will be back and sobbing about it or I might not be heard from for a week.
I got my third from New Egg a week or so ago and so far it is virtually flawless. I say virtually because there is the tiniest bit of light bleed along the bottom but it is so slight that its unnoticeable unless pointed out (even on a black screen).
I'm on number 3 also. build is tighter than the other 2, but the first was tight in the beginning too. still has bleed and speaker balance issues. I've done the tweaks and used volume+. my only fear is blowing a speaker now.
hoping I have a keeper this time.
Mine seems perfect to me. I must be one of the rare lucky ones.
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No issues here, have owned my TF for a week now.
-No random SODs
-No light bleed
-No speaker issues
-No touch response problems
-No creaky bezel issues
Guess I lucked out?
Each time I think I've finally convinced myself that I am going to keep my current Transformer, I stumble upon one of these threads. As much as I love the device, my OCD has me looking for defects whenever I have it in my hands. I received mine from Newegg Friday and this is what I've noticed so far:
- Minor light bleed along the bottom when in landscape mode. Nothing too serious but definitely noticeable when in a dark room and the bottom of the screen is black. I tend to think this is going to be the case with all these screens.
- Right speaker louder than the left. Seems almost universal. I ran a Left/Right speaker test and, although it isn't an overwhelming difference, the right is clearly louder. Perhaps this is simply a matter of the openings/slots on the right side?
- One speck of dust under the screen in the upper left corner an inch below the Asus logo.
- What appears to be a dead/stuck Pixel in the right corner. Didn't notice this initially as it only appears clearly against certain backgrounds. When I ran a pixel test, there was a black dot about the size of a pin point against bright blue backgrounds in that spot. Very hard to notice against other colors.
- Screen separation: I notice no defect on that front. Maybe the slightest separation on the right side where the mini HDMI port is... the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.
I'm debating returning it to Newegg but then I worry that it is mostly a matter of me obsessively looking to find fault and that I'll end up with a worse one if I exchange it. I haven't returned anything to Newegg in years - you said they required the buyer to pay shipping?
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the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.
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lol when i read that i laughed hard
had a scare with mine, couldnt recharge it. But I was rooted, maybe it had something to do with it. The charger itself might have had a problem, but its ok now. Everything else is perfect. I've had mine for almost 3 weeks and it still works flawlessly. I show everyone my device and they are amazed
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Each time I think I've finally convinced myself that I am going to keep my current Transformer, I stumble upon one of these threads. As much as I love the device, my OCD has me looking for defects whenever I have it in my hands. I received mine from Newegg Friday and this is what I've noticed so far:
- Minor light bleed along the bottom when in landscape mode. Nothing too serious but definitely noticeable when in a dark room and the bottom of the screen is black. I tend to think this is going to be the case with all these screens.
- Right speaker louder than the left. Seems almost universal. I ran a Left/Right speaker test and, although it isn't an overwhelming difference, the right is clearly louder. Perhaps this is simply a matter of the openings/slots on the right side?
- One speck of dust under the screen in the upper left corner an inch below the Asus logo.
- What appears to be a dead/stuck Pixel in the right corner. Didn't notice this initially as it only appears clearly against certain backgrounds. When I ran a pixel test, there was a black dot about the size of a pin point against bright blue backgrounds in that spot. Very hard to notice against other colors.
- Screen separation: I notice no defect on that front. Maybe the slightest separation on the right side where the mini HDMI port is... the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.
I'm debating returning it to Newegg but then I worry that it is mostly a matter of me obsessively looking to find fault and that I'll end up with a worse one if I exchange it. I haven't returned anything to Newegg in years - you said they required the buyer to pay shipping?
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I would return this in an instant. The dust and stuck pixel would drive me insane!
Each time I think I've finally convinced myself that I am going to keep my current Transformer, I stumble upon one of these threads. As much as I love the device, my OCD has me looking for defects whenever I have it in my hands. I received mine from Newegg Friday and this is what I've noticed so far:
- Minor light bleed along the bottom when in landscape mode. Nothing too serious but definitely noticeable when in a dark room and the bottom of the screen is black. I tend to think this is going to be the case with all these screens.
- Right speaker louder than the left. Seems almost universal. I ran a Left/Right speaker test and, although it isn't an overwhelming difference, the right is clearly louder. Perhaps this is simply a matter of the openings/slots on the right side?
- One speck of dust under the screen in the upper left corner by the Asus logo.
- What appears to be a dead/stuck Pixel in the right corner. Didn't notice this initially as it only appears against certain backgrounds. However, when I run a pixel test, it is visible against certain backgrounds.
- Screen separation: I notice no defect on that front. Maybe the slightest separation on the right side where the mini HDMI port is... the main problem is me looking like a moron every time my girlfriend walks in the room and I'm intently starting at a turned off tablet.
I'm debating returning it to Newegg but then I worry that it is mostly a matter of me obsessively looking to find fault and that I'll end up with a worse one if I exchange it. I haven't returned anything to Newegg in years - you said they required the buyer to pay shipping?
hauj0bb said:
No issues here, have owned my TF for a week now.
-No random SODs
-No light bleed
-No speaker issues
-No touch response problems
-No creaky bezel issues
Guess I lucked out?
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Mine too, and I'll add no battery drain issue.
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madsquabbles said:
I'm on number 3 also. build is tighter than the other 2, but the first was tight in the beginning too. still has bleed and speaker balance issues. I've done the tweaks and used volume+. my only fear is blowing a speaker now.
hoping I have a keeper this time.
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I'm on number 4. Just got another 1 replacement from amazon yesterday, the build quality got better from the last 2 i got but this new 1 has worse light bleeding out of the 4 i got. I'm still thinking if i should keep the 3rd one i got and return the new one i just got from amazon or just return everything and get the samsung. Hard decision because i really like the transformer but the light bleeding is kind of annoying
ria_drizzt said:
Hi guys,
I'm on my second transformer in a week and going back and forth between keeping it or going for another replacement. Let me address my question though.
Can those of you with this device confirm whether or not you have a perfectly constructed Transformer? What I mean by that, for the most part, is that it's devoid of the various hardware defects that people are complaining about. These include poor touch response on the screen (having to double touch, or it doesn't work at all), speaker balance issues, light bleed, and screen-to-bezel separation.
My first TF from Amazon had the speaker issue where the right was much louder than the left. However, that was the ONLY problem with it. There was no light bleed and the screen, from what I can remember, did not have any noticeable separation.
My replacement came from Newegg, and the good news is that the speakers both work great. The bad news is I have a SLIGHT light bleed down in the UI menu at the bottom of the screen when in landscape mode, and I would say a moderate issue of the screen being separated from the bezel. A lot of people seemed to not notice this second issue until they starting looking closer at their own TFs. Basically, run your finger around that little black line that links your screen to the case. Is it seamless with the glass or does it stick out?
I'm beginning to question my OCD at this point, but if people really can confirm for me they have 0 light bleed and seamless screens I think I will keep returning until I can get what I would consider a perfect replacement.
All feedback appreciated! Thanks!
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I've received two units that I've opened (the others were sold unopened).
Both units have no issues beyond *extremely* minimal light bleed that is normal on any tablet screen, and not obtrusive in the least. One has a very slight gap at one short point in the bezel, barely twice the width of a human hair, if that.
You'd have to be beyond OCD to be unhappy with build quality on either of my tabs. And I didn't return any to get them.
But frankly I think plenty of people *are* beyond OCD, and expect a level of perfection that's simply not realistic.
It seems to be quite an issue, with the defected hardware. my came with a problematic power button which got worse with every use. now I can't lock/unlock the screen, can't turn it off and If I do manage to turn it off the only way to boot it would be to connect it to power. Today hopefully I will get it replaced.
Mine is perfect. I had a light cracking on the right side the first weeks, but it is gone now. I am very happy with my transformer. Browser scrolling could be better .
Nothing to complain.
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Will the screen bleed get worse? Is this a universal problem with all tabs? My case also has a slight pop/crack when I hold it on the top/left side. Thinking of trading it in for the Samsung, unless their build quality is the same.
I exchanged my first tf because there was 4 light bleed spots on it, my new one has only 1 very minor lightbleed spot that is not noticable unless you search for it but the right side bezel is a bit off, so theres a gap of about 1/2 milimeter which in the end translates as a similar gap at the same spot on the back where the plastic is meeting the bezel. So if you look at my docked and closed transformer you'd see the two bezels are not perfectly aligned, as one is slightly curved outwards... I don't know if I am going to return this one yet.
It depends if I manage to fix the video playback, even 360p videos on youtube are sluttering unless they are put in full screen... And I am on the lastest firmware with the lastest flash version + factory reset.
Another strange issue is that randomly, when I press the touchscreen the tablet emits a little and faint "beep" very very faint and with an irregular tone, and this is even with volume all set to 0, it makes me think the static electricity is messing up with one of the speakers or something, but meh it's not bothering at all.
If I can't manage to fix the playback issue & the gtab10.1 or 8.9 is an exynos dual core (I have it in the galaxy S2 and this soc is a BEAST, it runs circles around the tegra2 in flash video playback or responsiveness) by then i'll just get a galaxy tab and give the TF to my girlfriend since I don't need a keyboard at all for the stuff I wanna do on a tablet.
The extra battery from the dock is so sweet tho, i used it all day long and it is still at 100% charge lol.
I just think the first batches of transformers are terribly and randomly flawed, just RMA it to asus or keep exchanging until you get a decent one.
If the gtab ends up with tegra2 I don't see any point of getting it, the transformer even with its flaws is still light years ahead of the gtab in terms of connectivity & docking.
jideay said:
Will the screen bleed get worse? Is this a universal problem with all tabs? My case also has a slight pop/crack when I hold it on the top/left side. Thinking of trading it in for the Samsung, unless their build quality is the same.
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well when i bought it, it had very minor light bleed but now it has amped up a bit. i looks like with daily use, it'll get a bit worse and peak out and stay there for the rest of its time.
too early for me to confirm that theory though but i like that if it gets unbearable within the year, asus will take it and fix it for you
I've actually grown attached to my TF, and can probably live with its issues. Just don't want it to get worse, and I'm afraid to trade it in, getting a refurb instead of a new one...
I also have some light bleed issues with mines I got it 2 weeks ago. its not bad for me its just in the left hand corner and on some spots along the side and bottom nothing more than what I see on a smart phone.
If it does get worse, you have 1 year of warranty through Asus.
i like my transformer so far, but the replacement from amazon is coming. Mine apparently had really bad light bleed. There were 3 spot from the bottom left that had a big sploch and 2 medium size one 3 small one on the bottom and another one on the right.
This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
I just recieved another transformer from amazon today too. I sent the other one back and purchased this one. Both of the transformers have the same light bleeding like what you have. The one i just recieved today has a lil more light bleeding than the one i sent back. I'm keeping this one. Not going to send it back anymore.
That looks pretty bad. I have some backlight bleeding, but I have to go out of my way to see it (max out the brightness in a dark room).
Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
already requested to ship back to amazon... this sucks!!! but when trying to watch a movie the bleed is horrible.
I wish my original one from walmart didn't have a short in the screen (as you moved it the screen would turn on and off) because that one was otherwise perfect 100% no screen bleeding even on 100% brightness!
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Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
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I'd return that. That looks horrid. You pay for something and expect to be flawless. Now I mean if this was on display and someone tried to sell you it, you wouldn't have bought it if it came with that flaw now would you.
Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
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Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
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Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
Thremix said:
Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
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I understand. But it seems like my odds of getting a defect free tablet may be higher with some manufactures than others.
My iPad was perfectly fine, first try. I've had two Xooms, both were perfect pieces of hardware (just too heavy and too expensive). My luck hasn't been as good with ASUS though.
Problem is both of the tablets I want seem to have manufacturing problems. I like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too (though the lack of micro SD is why I bought the Transformer). But even Samsung seems to be having manufacturing problems with theirs too. Seems like far too many Google IO owners have their glass popping out of their bezel. Ugh. And it's looking like the production Wifi model has this issue too.
Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
XDA seems to really hate Android browsers. Haha. Opera Mini works MUCH better here though.
I thought I'd post a sample of the light bleed vs iPad 2. Both at 100% which frankly I'd never use this dark. However, the other shot is 50%.
I kept them small rather than two megs each. IMHO neither is acceptable at the price point. The tf changes with pressure the iPad 2 doesn't. The transformer is worse.
I have bad luck with screens. Also there are about ten stuck pixels seen on a black screen, I'm sure more if I run the color range.
Would you keep it? Don't think I will be. :/ and the iPad is getting exchanged.
O.K. mine issues:
Light bleeds on bottom right and right side of screen (on bottom left there is not such bleed as on picture this is kind of photo rendering issue)
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7805/32268220.jpg
Two defective spots of pixels on dark screen only
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3120/22912128.jpg
Zoomed defective pixels..
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/7434/72512206.jpg
But I notice this in only %1 in my daily use, because I am not using it in dark room on dark screen at full brightness
What bothers me more is speaker disbalance (right is normal left is only 30% as loud as right). But if I have to wait for RMA I won`t take it to RMA because I just love it too much and don`t want to wait for stupid RMA.. Maybe I will give it to RMA after 23 months (in Lithuania there is 2 Year warranty)
BTW I contacted seller and waiting for answer and if they will not exchange it i will live with these issues
P.S. speaker test:
yah i noticed thatpressure on the back increasesthe bleeding but my photo was with no pressure. And dam this site lags on this transformer.
Still returning...sadly
just received my 3rd one in today. few dead pixels throughout the screen and then one big area that is washed out about the size of my thumb.
amazon refused to exchange this one and now says i have to go through asus. BULLSH**
i have to return mine due to the backlight as well, its got a bleed that seems like its getting worse every day.
also from amazon! i really dont want to send it back either
h00ligan said:
Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
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If you go to the bottom of the page on this site there is a arrow down box that says XDA 2010, switch it to XDA Classic and the website runs really smooth then.
thanks!
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this is exactly how my current (3rd) is. the other two had bleed, but not as defined as this one's is. the others were more diffused.
Spider210 said:
This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
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yah returned the 3rd one. amazon refuses to send me another one. says its likely to be DOA based on my past experience... wtf...
So I know there have been tons of threads regarding light bleed in the Transformer but what I'm wondering is if the issue has gotten any better with the newer units. My 45 day return window at Best Buy is coming up and I'm trying to decide what to do. I have some light bleeding on the bottom right of my unit, but it only really bothers me in dark rooms. However since my wife tries not to use lights very much in our house, most rooms are dark. I haven't had any other issues, and I would only consider exchanging it if I knew that the newer ones have gotten better on this front. I got mine in mid May and I assume they've had numerous shipments since then. Have the new models gotten any better on the defect front?
I just bought one yesterday and I am taking it back today. Mine has some separation between the glass and bezel as if it were dropped in shipping or something. I also notice very minor light bleed only at the bottom about middle area so I would say that most likely this issue hasn't been resolved but I am afraid the new one I get tonight will be worse.
I will post up tonight when i get the new one and let you know if it has any bleed....most likely it will. Even the display models at 2 different Best Buys has it. I got mine from Office Depot so that is three different stores all with light bleed issues.
I got mine last month from Best Buy online and it's fine. No bleeding, no creaking, no problems of any kind (except the occasional PEBKAC issue )
I have no problems as ofyet
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So it's still a crap-shoot?
Just got mine from NewEgg for $389/fs. So far, no issues. It's a black-sealed, Serial# B60 model. I can't detect any light-bleed, no creaks/cracks. Only had it a few minutes, but all seems well. It was packaged very well from NE with peanuts in a large box. I can't detect issues with the speakers either.
It had Android 3.1 preinstalled.
Also, it has all my phone (EVO) apps installed within minutes ... not sure if that's new to Google or something, but never had that before. It did it automatically when I signed in to Google.
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I just bought one yesterday and I am taking it back today. Mine has some separation between the glass and bezel as if it were dropped in shipping or something. I also notice very minor light bleed only at the bottom about middle area so I would say that most likely this issue hasn't been resolved but I am afraid the new one I get tonight will be worse.
I will post up tonight when i get the new one and let you know if it has any bleed....most likely it will. Even the display models at 2 different Best Buys has it. I got mine from Office Depot so that is three different stores all with light bleed issues.
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what was the serial number of yours...b6?
Bought mine in Singapore last week, no problems whatsoever. Is from the recent manufactured batch, B60K serial, TW firmware. Love it, no regrets!
Bought mine Saturday at Compusa , went B&M in case I had to take it back. i have a slight amount of light bleed at the bottom middle right. Not sure if I'll take it back, it doesn't really bother me, but I did just pay for a new product so it should be perfect right?
I returned my first one due to a dead pixel and minor light bleed in the bottom middle of the screen. I just got my new one in yesterday and I can not find a single issue with it. Serial number b60.
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rbusch said:
Bought mine in Singapore last week, no problems whatsoever. Is from the recent manufactured batch, B60K serial, TW firmware. Love it, no regrets!
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Mine was B60K as well. In case the letter after the number changes at all.
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what was the serial number of yours...b6?
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Yes the one I got yesterday was a serial b6. The one I got today is a b5.
They both have\had very slight light bleed (at the bottom) but I think I can deal with it.
This new b5 is a little worse than the b6 but almost not so much to really even bring it up, but I will. So I would say that it is a crap shoot which sucks. I turned it on at the store but it wasn't dark enough to see the problem. I have seen some that are very bad that I couldn't live with but both I have had I could/will live with; unless they get worse over time.
redshirt72 said:
Bought mine Saturday at Compusa , went B&M in case I had to take it back. i have a slight amount of light bleed at the bottom middle right. Not sure if I'll take it back, it doesn't really bother me, but I did just pay for a new product so it should be perfect right?
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I would normally agree with your logic about it being perfect, but with these IPS screens it's very hard to totally do away with the light bleed. Even the iPad2, as much as Apple praises their build quality, has light bleed. Mine did and so did my wife's.
Hell, my 46" Samsung LCD has some light bleed in the corners (we refer to them as "flashights").
I think if you get a TF with minimal light bleed, mine is very small at the bottom, you are doing well.
So mine is a B40K series. It sounds like if I can find a B60K series it might be worth it to exchange?
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I am going to take my in for a replacement @ Fry's tomorrow as well! If I call ahead of time...will they tell me if they have a B60 in stock? =/ Seems like there are more success stories with the B60...I have light bleeding out all over the bottom...and on the left.
Some people doesn't seem to know what light bleeding is, so i will not believe anyone saying their TF is just perfect without seeing actual pictures of the screen, in max brightness and low light.
That happend on other forums a lot, and after explanations a lot of them admitted that they were wrong.
Same thing with unbalanced speakers, creaking, screen responsiveness etc.
Or... maybe not all of you there are as perfectionists as some of us are, and that's fine. But don't make us envy your perfect products.
Mine (B5) also has one light bleeding spot on the middle bottom (about an inch from the edge) and the screen responsiveness isn't as great s on SGS II or iPad2 (or maybe it's Honeycomb's fault), bothers me a little, but overall I am happy with my Transformer. It's making my life easier a lot on four aspects: saving my laptop (on which i spent a lot and doesn't deserve to be stressed sometimes all day long just for browsing; I am saving it for real work and there are days now when i don't use it at all; also, TF is way better than my wife's iPad 2 on this reason), my smartphone (who's battery now last for 2 full days because of transferring the light browsing, reading and media consuming in bed to the Transformer), my injured back (from using the laptop at desk all day) and my eyes (beacuse of the reason no. 2, with the smartphone replacement for some stuff).
LE: Conclusion: Stop complaining or bragging about it, and just make it worth it's money using it.
Has anyone yet commented the speaker balance in the B60K batch? More experience sharing on the light bleeding wll be appreciated too.
My B50K has passed its refund windows, but I could sell and buy a new B60K, and lose about $100. I need more info to decide...
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Has anyone yet commented the speaker balance in the B60K batch? More experience sharing on the light bleeding wll be appreciated too.
My B50K has passed its refund windows, but I could sell and buy a new B60K, and lose about $100. I need more info to decide...
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I havew a B50K and it's perfect. Thinking you will be getting $100 worth of something additional with a B60K is just insane.
i'm hoping they've worked out the creakiness in B60...my B40 was really bad.
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I would normally agree with your logic about it being perfect, but with these IPS screens it's very hard to totally do away with the light bleed. Even the iPad2, as much as Apple praises their build quality, has light bleed. Mine did and so did my wife's.
Hell, my 46" Samsung LCD has some light bleed in the corners (we refer to them as "flashights").
I think if you get a TF with minimal light bleed, mine is very small at the bottom, you are doing well.
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Said perfectly. I've had a B40, a B50, and 2 B60s. ALL had light bleed to various degrees.
The B60s seem a lot better but they still have light bleed. While I don't doubt there may be a few transformers out there with no light bleed, I'm definitely skeptical of the claim that someone has a transformer with no light bleed whatsoever.
I do a lot of reading on my device and I like to read with white text on a black background so light bleed shows up immediately. The light bleed on the B60 I am keeping is minimal enough that it doesn't bother me even in this condition.
There are a lot of scattered reports that the B6O revision is better than the B5O revision.
Of those of you who have the B6O revision:
1. How many of you notice any of the issues such as creaking or backlight bleed?
2. How many of you actually have another revision unit to compared it to?
There are some people here saying they are considering selling their B4O or B5O at a loss to get a B6O. I'm trying to compile a source with which these people can make an educated choice. Is it really that much better or is it all just their imagination?
I have a B60 unit. I don't have any previous revisions to compare it to, but I can tell you that...
- Yes, mine creaks. The aluminum bezel is actually separating from the unit slightly in the bottom-right corner.
- Yes, there is backlight bleed. Several spots along the bottom and right edges of the screen.
- Yes, the speakers are still slightly unbalanced. As others discovered, this is a software issue, not a hardware issue.
I'm going to exchange mine today in store. Hopefully I'll have better luck with a replacement... Heck, maybe there's even a newer revision.
I just picked up a B60 version from Bestbuy retail store yesterday. It, so far, does not have any build issues that I am aware of . Love it
I just got my TF . Mine is a B50. Compared to my G2x, i dont notice any bleeding. Im sure there is some because of the nature of LCDs but no complaints. I cant tell and im not looking for an issue to just drive me crazy.
The case does creak though, lol. On the left side. Only once when i first pick it up. Nothing crazy.
Audio seems slightly left justified but compared to the 1 speaker on my ipad2... stereo is welcome regardless. Barely noticable. Sounds good. No more covering 1 speaker and losing audio ha.
Im happy. Walking into this device blindly, i love it. I dont know if its the stock keyboard or the screen sensitivity but it misses a few strokes. Could be me not used to a large keyboard.
It was locked up when i grabbed it this morning after charging all night. I think this is caused by Tegra drivers cause it seems common amoung tegra devices. Luckily its a tablet and not a phone you depend on to be going 24/7.
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I just picked up a B60 version from Bestbuy retail store yesterday. It, so far, does not have any build issues that I am aware of . Love it
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It's because you're not looking for them yet / aren't as picky.
- Crank up the brightness and stand in a dark room.
- The creaking/weak frame you'll start to notice as you use it.
I have a B40, and have some creaks only on the lower left side of the unit, when I use it outside of the case. (I have the portfolio case PRIME)
Some minor light bleed near the bottom right side of the unit, but very minor.
Compared to the Evo 3D where the bottom of that phone has light bleed.
The speakers are un-balanced until I saw the unbalanced left speaker thread, did and the OP said there and seems to be fixed now.
Mine is B5O. Slight creak near the volume and power keys, lightbleed (see pic) and unbalanced speakers (right one is louder). I decided to RMA it only because I'm going on holiday so I won't miss it too much. Actually the more I read about other units and how Asus is handling RMA the more doubts I have if I should send it...
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It's because you're not looking for them yet / aren't as picky.
- Crank up the brightness and stand in a dark room.
- The creaking/weak frame you'll start to notice as you use it.
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If I only find any light bleed in those conditions I can live it. But a seriously weakening frame would cause me to jump ship. 13 days to make up my mind. But so far so good. Thanks for helping me take notice
I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!
B50, light bleed at the top left(not bad), not really creaky but the bezel does move a bit. Dead pixel about 1cm from the right side of the screen in the middle vertically. 1 dust remnant under rear camera lens.
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I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!
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+1 here. Except I don't have any scratches. So far, so good with my B50!
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If I only find any light bleed in those conditions I can live it. But a seriously weakening frame would cause me to jump ship. 13 days to make up my mind. But so far so good. Thanks for helping me take notice
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The backlight bleed doesn't bother me either. But people want to know if it's there, not if you don't notice it or if it doesn't bother you.
People read these posts of people saying "My transformer is PERFECT! It doesn't have any problems!" and they go nuts thinking theirs is horribly defective.
The Transformer is $100 less than the competition. They had to cut corners somewhere.
I'm only exchanging mine in hopes that it will have a slightly stronger frame (like I said, the aluminum bezel is actually coming off on mine). I'm still expecting it to have build quality issues though.
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I own a B50, and can report zero light bleed, zero creaks, and only a small minor scratch on the lower right frame (not part of the touchscreen, only on the frame).
Everything so far seems to be good, I even tried squeezing the sides some, no creaking!
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Yes it does. You're just ignoring it or haven't noticed it yet.
I have a small bleed in the middle of the bottom bar.
However it locked up again while i sat it down for an hour. Like it has problems recovering from standby. Running Prime. The G2x did that until Cm7 fixed it.
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The Transformer is $100 less than the competition. They had to cut corners somewhere.
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And the competition has "cut" the exact same corners, despite the higher price tag. Plenty of reports of light bleed, case creak, etc. from the Apple crowd too. They just have a higher proportion of fanboys among their userbase, who will go to any length to pretend that problems don't exist.
I've got a B50. I received three (all B50) from Newegg during the month of June. I kept #2 as it was by far the best of the bunch. As Newegg cross ships replacements, I held unto #2 until I received #3 and they let me send back the newer one since it was also defective.
It still has a couple of flaws:
Light bleed: Although it has the least bleed of the 3 I received, there are still 6-7 small spots visible along the top and bottom when I use the Transformer in the dark even at around 50% brightness. Not noticeable during the day or in a lit room. Even the largest only extends about 1/2 an inch up the screen.
Speakers: Left produces noticeably less volume than the right. This defect was present on all 3 tablets I received. I noticed this immediately and confirmed with the YouTube left/right speaker test.
Dead pixel: One dead pixel. Each of the three had at least one; the first unit I received also had a speck of dust under the screen, the third a larger discolored patch in the middle of the screen. It would be very hard to notice the dead pixel if you were not specifically looking for it. I used the Dead Pixel Test app: near the top of the screen, there is one pin point sized dot that is light grey on a white screen, undetectable on a black screen, and grey/light black on a blue or green screen. There is no dust visible so it must be a screen defect.
White Residue: Very small (third of an inch) thin line along the top of the black border on top. Able to clean most of it off although still faintly visible if you look closely. Could be partly scratched too, not sure.
On the plus side, my Transformer has no creakiness and no separation between the screen and the black border. The other two I received both had easily visible gaps.
I decided the quest for the perfect Transformer was endless and futile. NewEgg refunded me $25 for the hassle of two exchanges; with the $10 coupon I also used, I got my Transformer for $365. For the price, I'm pleased enough with the device.
Mine is also B50 and it has 2 light leaks on the bottom. It did not have creaks when purchased 1 month ago, but now it is creeking horribly on the whole left side under the volume button. IMHO, it is a faulty design. If yours is tight now, don't be surprised when it gets loose and creaky after a little while.
Great attitude: -Do you have any problems with the device? -Nothing at all. -Yes you have dear sir, yes you have!
Just bought my tablet and dock yesterday from Best Buy. B60 Tablet, B50 dock. Tablet feels sturdy but with a slight give on the screen. There is slight light bleed on the bottom left corner. I haven't noticed any speaker issues, I was actually pleasantly surprised. From what I've read in reviews I thought they'd be horrible, but it actually fine for me.
Nothing wonky about the dock yet. Everything seems to work. Overall, I'm pretty happy with it .
I have no clue what revision mine is (don't know how to tell!; but it was purchased way back in may). I can't say I have any real issues; minor light bleed; speakers are more or less balanced but so darn awful I'm not sure it matters (i normally use klipsch s4; which are great on airplanes - nearly 100% isolation). THere is minor backlighting; no obvious dead pixels. Maybe I'm just not picky but I really don't have any significant separation or creaks. Wish it had a usb port.
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Most of my complaints are software. I have' a few weird periods were part of the screen stop responding to touch (really annoying when trying to unlock the screen and 2 of the numbers won't respond to touch) but reboot always fix the glitches.
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I have a B40; which make sense given the purchase date.
You can check your revision from the serial number (sticker affixed to the box and under your Transformer, next to the charge port). It's the first three characters.
A lot if people have been received their S6 Edge phones with defects, either through transit or manufacturing, I am now on my third one in 3 days due to there being a small chip out of the metal trim under the screen and then the earpiece speaker being all fuzzy on the replacement, not to mention one of the others i was offered had a chip out of the metal surround. Luckily my third one now seems perfect (fingers crossed).
Just make sure your phone is perfect before you walk away at the end of the day your paying a lot of money for it and its gonna save you going back and fourth like iv had to lol
I don't know how it works in other country's but here in the UK carriers HAVE to give you 14 days "cooling off period" which enables you to get on the spot exchanges if your unhappy with your phone, or they have to let you cancle your contract.
Hope this is helpful, thanks.
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A lot if people have been received their S6 Edge phones with defects, either through transit or manufacturing, I am now on my third one in 3 days due to there being a small chip out of the metal trim under the screen and then the earpiece speaker being all fuzzy on the replacement, not to mention one of the others i was offered had a chip out of the metal surround. Luckily my third one now seems perfect (fingers crossed).
Just make sure your phone is perfect before you walk away at the end of the day your paying a lot of money for it and its gonna save you going back and fourth like iv had to lol
I don't know how it works in other country's but here in the UK carriers HAVE to give you 14 days "cooling off period" which enables you to get on the spot exchanges if your unhappy with your phone, or they have to let you cancle your contract.
Hope this is helpful, thanks.
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I can attest to this as I'm about to take the second one back this week. The problem is that it is difficult to do at these stores due to lighting. The first one I return as there was a small (miniscule) circle on the glass, otherwise the phone was perfect (In hindsight I wish I kept that unit). The second unit has a screen that I'm not sure how it made on the phone as it should have been rejected. Top and bottom has green tint, left side had purple tint and top right has the dusty/dirty section that you can clearly see on web browser when reading. Now, the VZW store was extremely nice and agreed to replace my first one with no issues. I'm going back to take the second one back this week.
The issue is with lighting at store and everything is cranked up. Tough to see screen issues on that type of brightness. I can't stand screens that aren't uniform and calibrated, and after reading about Amoled this weekend, I'm not expecting much. I'm hoping third time is the charm, but in all honesty I may just give up on this phone, as I don't really have the time to go back and forth to store every week to play the exchange lottery.
definitely no hardware problems here..
I smell what you're cooking! Typical company issues
Anyways, got mine S6 EDGE and I'm in love with it. I did not check everything, but it seems to be fine. But I have a question for you :
It is normal that the speakers are a little bit (I don't know how to describe this)...rustled, when I have the uppermost volume?
After reading this I thoroughly inspected mine. I guess I got lucky. Verizon 64GB White one and I don't see any issues at all. Sorry to hear you guys are running into issues though :/
T-Mobile 64GB Sapphire BLUE here. As far as I can tell, no defects. It almost sounds like initial batches had/has all the issues, but that's a small sample size. Personally haven't run into any thing related to: straight-from-box screen scratches, screen rotation issues, or color variances.
Only thing I wish it had was a little less sensitivity right above the home button... I keep hitting the area on top of the home button first, and then the button itself.
As for the speaker quality Its hard to tell really because it could be your cell connection affecting the sound quality as well, the problem I had was that no matter who I called it sounded like there with something going "zzzzzttz" "zzttz" as they spoke! As far as I'm aware the sound quality is actually pretty good cranked up full!
Come to think of it the first one I was given also had more of a yellow tint to the whites than the one I have now... Maybe a placebo effect but still something worth mentioning!
Btw : I just checked my display, I have a few,little scratches on my display. Is that normal? (You can only see them with bright light)
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Btw : I just checked my display, I have a few,little scratches on my display. Is that normal? (You can only see them with bright light)
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Depends on what you mean by normal. Around 30% of people here have reported the scratches.
You all should check for screen non-uniformity. A portion of your screen might be pinker than normal.
Here are pictures I took of my screen. I have a sliver of pink tint at the top and some pink tint at the bottom part. Grays also appear brighter at the bottom part of the screen.
Should I have it changed or this is above average for a s-amoled screen?
Here's the imgur link -> http://imgur.com/a/BMBXt