can non market apps make use of the markets features? - Nexus One General

hello everyone, some apps have a feature that checks with the market to see whether it was paid for or not, what i would like to know is if there is a way for a non market app (one paid for with paypal) to do something like this as well? im trying to think of a good method to use for something like this, does anyone have an idea of how to approach this? (will 'Thanks' anyone who has an idea to offer)

There is a way, but I'm not sure how it's implemented...
I donated to Titanium Backup back in the day, and when he switched to the Pro version I show up as having paid - even though I never paid via the Market.
You could check with the dev for Titanium?

You can't use the Market's authentication system but you can create your own. I'm pretty sure that is how Titanium Backup worked.

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How to purchase apps in unsupported markets?

So I'm about to make the transition from a rooted G1 to a stock Nexus One. I am unsure if I will root the N1 because the reasons don't seem that compelling with 2.2 on its way. It's a company phone so I cannot afford to lose the hardware warranty if HTC denies a claim.
However, I need to be able to get my paid apps onto my Nexus One while being in a country where paid apps are not supported (Taiwan). With my G1, I had used Market Enabler but it requires root. I have Titanium Backup and have backed up my apps. Can I install those paid apps onto my Nexus One without using Titanium Backup? It looks the the apps are stored as an apk.gz format...
How else can you get paid apps in a non-supported country. Has anyone been able to do this using a US based VPN service with the stock ROM? I'm interested in this option regardless because I will certainly find new apps I will want to purchase.
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Mods feel free to delete. Turns out market accessibility is only dependent on your SIM card, not your IP address or anything like that. Good thing I still have my ATT SIM.

Google backup vs Mybackup,Titanium ?

Seems like a great time to start comparing.
Im very confused as to what exactly Google backs up now.
I tried it out yesterday and it seemed to backup my wifi , desktop , apps , and user dictionary.
Desktop icons and Alarms dont seem to have returned.
I havent tried MyBackup Pro but the new "with root" feature claims to re-install apps with market links. But does it keep per app preferences ?
Titanium does all of the apps/data/market in batch. But does not do "settings" ((if it did i recall having issues I forget which))
Just wondering if Googles backup/apps2sd is comprehensive enough that from now on flashing new ROMS or updates we'll no longer need to worry about backup reinstalls.
((Yes I know nandroid is best but for updates like this useless))
I don't think the full Google Backup demo'd at the I/O will be operational until www.android.com has re-launched with the new functionality.
Is there a list of what it currently backs up ?
I never really tires it extensively so not sure what it does/doesnt do.
The apps did work for me though.
Apps only, and only if you're unrooted I think.

Buying from Market

I thinking about buying an application but wanted to know where the program is stored.
If I were to upgrade or change my android build would the application follow? Does the market place keep track of my purchases and lets me download it again or do I need to place it in a particular folder?
Thanks.
you would need a back up program but if u purchase a paid app from market you will find it in your downloads area
gattaca714 said:
I thinking about buying an application but wanted to know where the program is stored.
If I were to upgrade or change my android build would the application follow? Does the market place keep track of my purchases and lets me download it again or do I need to place it in a particular folder?
Thanks.
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The way the android market handles this, is when you purchase an app, it links it to your google account indefinitely.
The reason for this, is for when you upgrade your device firmware, lose your phone, and purchase a new android device on any network (sprint, verizon, t-mobile, at&t, yada yada) you may get all of your paid apps back on your new device, or new firmware.
So, as long as you use the same google account to log in to your device (I don't know why you wouldn't because you can store all your contacts in the cloud on your gmail account), you will be able to get your previously paid android apps at no additional cost.
Have fun, and enjoy those paid apps out there. There are some good ones.
_-cooper-_
Paid apps don't appear when switching build
I'm actually a bit concerned about this.
I've been using mdeejay's Revolution for a few weeks, and decided to take the plunge an purchase the apps I use the most.
A couple of days ago, I installed desire_cs in parallel for experimenting. I dual boot between these two with no problem.
However, after associating the same account with Market in desire_cs, I do *not* see my paid apps.
I've tried various tricks (restore the Market data with Ti-backup, clear Market data, dial '*#*#CHECKIN#*#*', copy the fingerprint in build.prop, just wait online). My Downloads list remains empty, and Market behaves as if I need to purchase the apps again. Google Checkout (on the web) clearly shows that my purchases are valid.
Booting back to the MDJ build, everything looks dandy.
I tried restoring a backup of a paid app from the MDJ build into the desire_cs build. This works OK, but Market still does not flag the app as purchased.
This makes me hesitate to purchase any more apps - though I know Ti-backup will probably be able to preserve my MDJ setup for me, I will need to manually check for updates to the paid apps, and will probably need to aquire them from shady corners of the net.
Is this a fluke or one-time-thing with the build(s) I've tried, or will it happen with all builds? Can anyone say that purchases in general transfer fine between builds? (I assume the latter is the case, otherwise I'd have seen more complaints in these forums.)
Thanks for your time!
ugumba said:
I'm actually a bit concerned about this.
I've been using mdeejay's Revolution for a few weeks, and decided to take the plunge an purchase the apps I use the most.
A couple of days ago, I installed desire_cs in parallel for experimenting. I dual boot between these two with no problem.
However, after associating the same account with Market in desire_cs, I do *not* see my paid apps.
I've tried various tricks (restore the Market data with Ti-backup, clear Market data, dial '*#*#CHECKIN#*#*', copy the fingerprint in build.prop, just wait online). My Downloads list remains empty, and Market behaves as if I need to purchase the apps again. Google Checkout (on the web) clearly shows that my purchases are valid.
Booting back to the MDJ build, everything looks dandy.
I tried restoring a backup of a paid app from the MDJ build into the desire_cs build. This works OK, but Market still does not flag the app as purchased.
This makes me hesitate to purchase any more apps - though I know Ti-backup will probably be able to preserve my MDJ setup for me, I will need to manually check for updates to the paid apps, and will probably need to aquire them from shady corners of the net.
Is this a fluke or one-time-thing with the build(s) I've tried, or will it happen with all builds? Can anyone say that purchases in general transfer fine between builds? (I assume the latter is the case, otherwise I'd have seen more complaints in these forums.)
Thanks for your time!
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Gotta be some kind of a fluke, I have restored/updated apps countless times from build to build using the Downloads section of the Market. They have always showed up for me, I still have paid apps from my Tilt2 days that I d/l and update from the market.
Only thing I can think of for your case is maybe a difference in Market region between your two builds. Maybe if you use Market Enabler to change your Market region in your new build?
But before going on an app buying spree, I would install a new build or two, and experiment. Who knows, it's possible you may just have really bad luck or Google hates you
Strange...it has to be a fluke. I've bought many apps and I'm a builoholic...always changing (monster ADD) and the APPs are always waiting in downloads. The exception to this is the full version of launcher pro which I bought in app and paid for through paypal...
I'm with huggs in guessing its a region issue. Try Market Enabler and let us know what happens...kinda interested in the outcome.
You should be able to re-activate them with the google purchase transaction number (like I did with CoPilot)... after purchasing an app you should have received an invoice stating what your google checkout number was...
I have never had trouble installing purchased apps in different builds after upgrading. Both on my Desire and HD2 I can find all my purchased apps, regardless of on which device or ROM the app was bought.

[Q] Question for all?

Ok so.. Update installed easily first try all i did was restore deleted apps.. Now do you think acer's gonna be a pain the ass with the 3.1 update as in keeping all the apps and everything or you think it would be a good idea to remove those apps that people want removed..
They're a company, they'll do whatever they think will pad their pockets best.
I just bought the titanium backup pro license to be able to "freeze" those apps instead of deleting or renaming them. Saves me the time to rename and un-rename them when needed. Well worth the €4,smthing in my stupid opinion.
Same here, personally I like Titanium Backup enough to be more than willing to pay the minimal purchase price for the key; being able to freeze apps like this is a great alternative until I actually start running low on app storage space. If I manage to do that before they release an Android World of Warcraft client I'll be in trouble
(ps -- yeah that'll happen..)

Titanium Backup -Market Doctor

Some apps i have on my phone i haven't got via the Android Market, lots ive got have been apk's ive got on XDA,etc,etc, what im wondering is, seen as i didn't get these apps from the market if i linked the selected apps to the market through the market doctor what is that supposed to do?
I have the Paddy Power app and Betfair app which were were initially on the Android market but for some bizzare reason Android market decided no betting apps were to be allowed to took them off the market so i went elsewhere and downloaded them and installed via root explorer, there are a couple of paid apps i also downloaded for free not something i usually do but whoever created these apps was taking the p*ss with the price they were charging so i refuse to pay over the odds for an app, taking all this into consideration what (if any) advantage would i have by linking these to the market and more's to the point considering i didn't get any of these particular apps from the market would the apps in question still link to the market?
anyone any ideas?
I would like to know how this goes too since I use SlideME Marketplace for some of my apps, it would be handy if it could all go under the Android marketplace for updating.
Isn't there anyone else with apps on their GS2 that they didn't get from the Android market that they might want to link to the market but are wondering the same?

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