Hi everyone, i was wondering if someone can tell me if charging the battery from 10-15% to 100% its bad for my device? Also which recomendations you suggest for reduce battery damage on the device? Ive read about the li-polymer batteries and some says that is bad for the battery to leave it conected log periods of time, also other mentioned that leaving the battery till it reach 10-15% is good method for prolong its battery life, but imnot sure about this tips.
Can someone tell me some recomendations?
I know from experience, li-po batteries do not last if fully discharged everytime, meaning don't run it till it shuts off. I am charging in the 10-15% range. As far as leaving it connected to the charger, I'm not sure if thats bad. If all you did was use it while connected to the charger, yes that will result in reduced battery life due to it not getting discharged.
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Hello,
What's the best method to recharge the TyTN so the battery takes longer to get addicted?
Waiting for the battery to get fully drained and the TyTN to shut down with no power, or recharge it when it notifies us of low battery (20%)?
I've heard both versions, so I was wandering what actually was the best method for a long battery life...
Thank you.
It's NEVER a good idea to completely drain a lithium ion battery. Doing so can actually shorten its life...
That's what i've read too. Constantly topping up the charge is meant to be the best way.
Lithium is best to constantly charge and not drain completely. That was good only fot the very old Nicd batteries.
So I should have it running on power adapter all the time when I have a power supply near is that it? Even if it's 90% or 80% battery full?
For my P900 every night I put it on charge, I never saw any detremental effect on the battery?!
I intend to charge my TyTN every night also
Marques said:
So I should have it running on power adapter all the time when I have a power supply near is that it? Even if it's 90% or 80% battery full?
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Yes, charge whenever / wherever you can... even if it's just for a few minutes...
But should I always charge the battery until full, or it's ok to charge just for a few minutes like said but not until 100%?
Hi guys ,
After having the new battery , I try to charge the old weak battery with the external charger overnight , then use it , I notice that the power meter going down little after a day use , specifically 90% level whereas in the past I used my PDA to charge it , the power level always drop down to 55% at the end of the day . Perhaps the internal power charger of the Exec is malfunction after long period usage . From now on , I will use the external to charge the battery for my Exec .
Does anyone out there have the external charger and pls try my experimental .
Regards .
maybe the external drains the battery fully before charging it? Doing this helps keep the battery conditioned in tip-top condition. I don't have time for this and always top up as I only have the jasjar mains adapter but I used to try to leave backlight on in weekend and fully drain battery before charging it
maybe the external drains the battery fully before charging it? Doing this helps keep the battery conditioned in tip-top condition.
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...yes with Ni-Cd batteries of 10 years ago but the worst thing to do with a Li-ion battery
i know you can wreck your li-ion battery by going to 0%
but isn't there a safe minimum you should really discharge to?
There is NO point to discharge Li-ion batteries. That is why it has been developed. We wanted a battery we don't want to wait draining it more like to charge it anytime. So, the truth is not "we don't need to drain it" but "we must not to do it", because battery dies in a short time.
before everybody tells me the search function, I already have but I find mixed and contradiction answers on this issue. Some people say to do a full discharge followed by a full recharge as soon as you get the phone. Then on the other hand some people say that you shouldn't do this since the x1 uses a li-ion and its bad for it. Some people say you should charge it only when it's near empty, but on the other hand some people say to keep charging it as often as possible. Some say to take it off the charger once its fully charged, but then some say its ok to leave a fully charged battery on the charger.
As you can see, from searching the forum I've gotten pretty confused. so what is the PROPER way to charge our x1 battery? Is it also true that battery life gets better the more you put it on the charger? Does the x1i get better battery life than the x1a? I'm asking this because I'm gettin very poor battery life on my x1 compared to the 1-3 days of heavy usage that I see other people gettin on this forum. I'm going to exchange it today for a new one, so I don't want to make the same mistakes with charging my battery as I did with the first one.
Charging:
Do charge the battery often.
The battery lasts longer with partial rather than full discharges.
Discharging:
Avoid full cycle because of wear.
80% depth-of-discharge recommended.
Re- charge more often. Avoid full discharge.
Low voltage may cut off safety circuit.
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From:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
dogans said:
From:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-21.htm
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that is very true......i get better life (3days) when i charge from 50%. otherwise i barely get more than 24hr.
thanks, that helps a lot! but what do I do once the battery has finished fully charging on the charger? should I take it off or is it fine to still leave it on the charger?
i have noticed this today,
i have installed a battery indicator bar (i cant remember which one) i charged my my X1 during night, when i woke up, i found that the phone is not charging and the battery is full. so i think that the phone automatically stopps charging when the battery reaches 100%
anyone can confirm that?
Not sure about the way to charge it, but i can comment on your current battery life. when i got mine, i had 1 days battery life, but after flashing it, i'm now getting between 3-4 days......
i used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458768
Glad to see that there are people that read the "real" stuff (I'm talking about dogans), the batteryuniversity site is mantained by the very battery fabricants, so their opinions are the best informed ones, even if they might bias a little to keep the bussiness "healthy".
However, any Lithium battery should not be fully discharged -at least not often-, because the full discharge shortens their life.
Usually, good chargers do control the charging parameters (battery's voltage, current and temperature curves) while it charges and "know" when to stop, even if they really don't stop ever (normally), the go in "tickle" charging mode, to keep the battery "fully" charged.
Hope this helps.
The article on Wikipedia about Li-Ion batteries is quite informative as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery
It specifies the technology, the do's, the dont's and usefull tips in keeping your battery in good condition.
I've got an issue with my battery where phone shuts down every time at 30% and won't charge above 80% unless I disconnect and reconnect charger then charges rapidly to 100%
I've heard LiPo batteries are easily damaged and have a short life span. In my case it has came to 0% numerous times. I tried calibrating it and still nothing
Here is some info on the battery.
Are those mA measurement's okay or bad?
These measurements are totally normal
It's probably your rom mate
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I've got an issue with my battery where phone shuts down every time at 30% and won't charge above 80% unless I disconnect and reconnect charger then charges rapidly to 100%
I've heard LiPo batteries are easily damaged and have a short life span. In my case it has came to 0% numerous times. I tried calibrating it and still nothing
Here is some info on the battery.
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Sounds like you need to return it under warranty.
Well I tried many different ROMs and stock firmwares still no luck. I've called service center and they will fix it. I think Li-Ion batteries are far better then Li-Poly
Had that issues on my previous device, Galaxy S4. Shutdowns at ~20% battery, terrible sot. My battery went bad so i replaced it with new battery and that solved it.
Consider replacing battery if flashing stock firmware does not help.
Batteries can last long if you take care of it. I guess you tortured it by draining it all the way to 0% or using the phone while its connected on charger, you should NEVER do that! 20% in my opinion is minimum before you should charge it to prolong battery life. Also if you really want very long battery life, do not charge it above 90%.
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Had that issues on my previous device, Galaxy S4. Shutdowns at ~20% battery, terrible sot. My battery went bad so i replaced it with new battery and that solved it.
Consider replacing battery if flashing stock firmware does not help.
Batteries can last long if you take care of it. I guess you tortured it by draining it all the way to 0% or using the phone while its connected on charger, you should NEVER do that! 20% in my opinion is minimum before you should charge it to prolong battery life. Also if you really want very long battery life, do not charge it above 90%.
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Thank you, I will be sending phone to service center. I really was using it while it was charging and it went to 0% million times.
This is what you guys get with a bad battery
kenzyyy said:
I've got an issue with my battery where phone shuts down every time at 30% and won't charge above 80% unless I disconnect and reconnect charger then charges rapidly to 100%
I've heard LiPo batteries are easily damaged and have a short life span. In my case it has came to 0% numerous times. I tried calibrating it and still nothing
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How long have you had the phone? I doubt li-poly batteries is alot worse than li-ion since both are very similar.
HI All,
I have a new moto g7 power which supports fast charging.
I want to prolong battery life and maintain the battery for as long as i can.
The instruction booklet says to charge it with the fast charger supplied only.
From my research it seems that li-lon batteries prefer top ups and to be kept between 40-80%
Also I never realized that first charge should be all the way to 100% not sure if I did this, have I harmed the battery if I did not ?
as far as I know, lithium likes to be between 85% and 15%. anything below 15% and above 85% is potentially bad for the battery, assuming 3.7v is 0% and 4.2v is 100%.