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X10 has multi-touch - proved

X10 has multi-touch.
just check out sony's web page:
"Sporting an expansive, 4" multi-touch screen, the X10 showcases your movies and photos in awe-inspiring fashion. Every pixel is crisp, with saturated colors and details that come alive in the palm of your hand. And with the added real estate, you'll spend more time enjoying and less time scrolling."
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...44515844&N=4294953720&Name=All+Mobile+Phones+

You must not know the general incompetence of customer facing representatives. Don't set yourself up for disappointment.

Check this page out. Clearly says single touch in the * below the graph.

gavriel18 said:
Check this page out. Clearly says single touch in the * below the graph.
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Allow me to play the devil's advocate here for a bit.
The info on the developer's site is what you as a developer can expect to work with. What if the multitouch bits aren't present in the current SDK because they haven't implemented it yet? Without conclusive information on the hardware we can't say anything for sure. It might be dual- or multi-touch capable and could be exposed in newer versions of the SDK.
It's very unlikely we'll get multitouch but quoting SE's page on the SDK really only tells you which APIs they let you play around with.

One day. That's all I ask for. One day without a new Multitouch topic.
Is that too hard to ask for?

iead1 said:
One day. That's all I ask for. One day without a new Multitouch topic.
Is that too hard to ask for?
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Awww, is it bringing you down? If only there was a way to not have to relive this anguish, like some way to not read every topic posted compulsively. One day science will find a way but until then you just have to bear the pain...
Jokes aside, speculating and investigating is a nice distraction from waiting for the 2.1 update.

ddewbofh said:
Awww, is it bringing you down? If only there was a way to not have to relive this anguish, like some way to not read every topic posted compulsively. One day science will find a way but until then you just have to bear the pain...
Jokes aside, speculating and investigating is a nice distraction from waiting for the 2.1 update.
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Very true, but, on any other forum, reposting the same exact topic on a daily basis amounts to spam, and isn't tolerated.
This is the sketchiest "proof" on any of the threads so far. So sad.

miguelsantos1979 said:
X10 has multi-touch.
just check out sony's web page:
"Sporting an expansive, 4" multi-touch screen, the X10 showcases your movies and photos in awe-inspiring fashion. Every pixel is crisp, with saturated colors and details that come alive in the palm of your hand. And with the added real estate, you'll spend more time enjoying and less time scrolling."
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...44515844&N=4294953720&Name=All+Mobile+Phones+
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TTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPOOOOOOOOOOOO!
will never be multi and stop bringing it up. I have given up hope also so leave it at that.

Hmm, it also says, and I quote:
"Exclusive to the X10, the remarkable Timescape™ app"
Haven't most of us here agreed that Timescape is more a waste of time, than 'remarkable'...
Well, I guess I'm wrong. That's just proof that it must be remarkable...!

k1sr said:
Hmm, it also says, and I quote:
"Exclusive to the X10, the remarkable Timescape™ app"
Haven't most of us here agreed that Timescape is more a waste of time, than 'remarkable'...
Well, I guess I'm wrong. That's just proof that it must be remarkable...!
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Nor is it exclusive to the X10...
*points to the X10 mini/mini pro, X8....*

iead1 said:
Nor is it exclusive to the X10...
*points to the X10 mini/mini pro, X8....*
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k1sr said:
Hmm, it also says, and I quote:
"Exclusive to the X10, the remarkable Timescape™ app"
Haven't most of us here agreed that Timescape is more a waste of time, than 'remarkable'...
Well, I guess I'm wrong. That's just proof that it must be remarkable...!
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And it's also pretty good in the later iterations of the firmware. It's quite speedy now and I like it better than the stock Music app.

ddewbofh said:
And it's also pretty good in the later iterations of the firmware. It's quite speedy now and I like it better than the stock Music app.
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They are talking about Timescape, not Mediascape.
Someone told that the mini have MT and have the same screen as X10... I don't remember when I read that.

timescape is great and fast on the x10 mini but bloated useless crap on the x10 maxi.
on the mini its nice to use as a notification tool, such as missing calls and sms and when you tap on the widget it loads instantly and scrolls smooth.

this is actually very interesting because if its listed on the site and it stays there and is confirmed not be a type then im pretty sure they will have to implemnt it or they will be an easy target for class action law suits

great finally with multitouch now X10 has become no 2 for no 1 call volume should be high

akshaysuri2000 said:
great finally with multitouch now X10 has become no 2 for no 1 call volume should be high
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for the love of sony ericsson would you stop going on about this
read this
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/08/15/se-working-on-in-ear-call-volume-issue-for-xperia-x10/
and never ever ever ever mention it here

-PiLoT- said:
this is actually very interesting because if its listed on the site and it stays there and is confirmed not be a type then im pretty sure they will have to implemnt it or they will be an easy target for class action law suits
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At first I was like :\
-PiLoT- said:
for the love of sony ericsson would you stop going on about this
read this
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/08/15/se-working-on-in-ear-call-volume-issue-for-xperia-x10/
and never ever ever ever mention it here
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And then I was like

I dont think the 2.1 update from s.e will bring any dual/multi touch capabilities even if the hardware supported it. S.E can easily lock it down via software if they should wish...

why x10 dont have any custom ram?? because it dosent have bootloader??

sasan70 said:
why x10 dont have any custom ram?? because it dosent have bootloader??
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of course x10 has a bootloader!!
but the bootloader is still lock!!!

dual touch - test - do it yourself

Apart from all the speculation, i would just like to point out that i did a test with my X10 and in fact, the phone registered two fingers at same time.
Try to write a message, click on the shift key (keep it pushing) and then click any letter. You'll see that the phone registered the two touches.
Let's hope SE enables at least the dual touch.

miguelsantos1979 said:
Apart from all the speculation, i would just like to point out that i did a test with my X10 and in fact, the phone registered two fingers at same time.
Try to write a message, click on the shift key (keep it pushing) and then click any letter. You'll see that the phone registered the two touches.
Let's hope SE enables at least the dual touch.
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There's already a thread!
Read, think, post
Sent from my rooted 026 x10i using XDA App

miguelsantos1979 said:
Apart from all the speculation, i would just like to point out that i did a test with my X10 and in fact, the phone registered two fingers at same time.
Try to write a message, click on the shift key (keep it pushing) and then click any letter. You'll see that the phone registered the two touches.
Let's hope SE enables at least the dual touch.
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i can confirm on better keyboard if i hold my finger on shift, it does recognize that im touching the screen elsewhere again! dunno if thats dual touch or not as i dont know much about the whole "dual touch" "multitouch" ordeal. worth a devs opinion i think. i would think though that if it wasnt at least dual touch it wouldnt do anything when i touch the screen with my second finger no?

X10 is confused when 2 fingers are touching the screen at the same time!
But that's not MT
Maybe our hardware supports MT but not our software...
Remember... i said maybe
Sent from my rooted 026 x10i using XDA App

You should have posted this in one of the other multitouch threads instead of starting a new thread

Funny X10 videos.

Not sure if it's posted before, but here goes -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2AP3VMAkpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hsov0jRvrU&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcaNkuQhEis&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdlaQTS76VU&feature=channel
My personal faves are the Models and Toddlers. Lol.

Haha forgot to ask which phone could use MT, and which ones have the most recent update available for that model. Different results then

It's a Sony Ericsson ad. So they wouldn't do those to kill themselves. Haha.
But not considering the comparisons (which, we already have lots of such topics around, especially from people like fm1776, which are seriously getting old), I'd say the contents are funny.
From the typical airheaded answers from the models which made the surveyor go [O_O], a the cute 'phone conversation' between one of the kids to the surveyor and the looks of the girls when he asked, "Did I say you can exchange phones?"
Lol.
Actually I missed out 2 more videos.
One of them is actually about surveying the senior citizens. When the surveyor asked them to point the phones at him, they literally did that, remote controller style.
That seriously cracked me up. Lol.

loneLEE said:
Not sure if it's posted before, but here goes -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2AP3VMAkpA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hsov0jRvrU&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcaNkuQhEis&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdlaQTS76VU&feature=channel
My personal faves are the Models and Toddlers. Lol.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_563521&v=reEOSt9Qhgo
I got a laff from these blokes.

Work Ongoing on Pinch Zoom for Xperia X10

Anyone read this GREAT news??
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/11/17/work-ongoing-on-pinch-zoom-for-xperia-x10/
Apparently the hardware did support for more than one touch..
I just want to expose this great news more. For I believe not everyone follow every thread in this forum.
You're freely comment to this thread or follow the MT thread from now.

read it a couple of minutes ago, Great news!

We are already discussing this in the MT thread and the custom rom thread.

Awesome news. Never say never I guess. Froyo anyone?

these [email protected]!! they lied to us! it's not supported by software etc... bull****!!

reptile64 said:
these [email protected]!! they lied to us! it's not supported by software etc... bull****!!
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Did you watch the video? He never stated it was a software problem, it's a hardware problem. The behavior of the multitouch chip seems to work awfully if you cross axises.

iead1 said:
Did you watch the video? He never stated it was a software problem, it's a hardware problem. The behavior of the multitouch chip seems to work awfully if you cross axises.
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Hardware problem or not it's still there.

Awesome!!!
Sent from my X10a using Tapatalk

reptile64 said:
these [email protected]!! they lied to us! it's not supported by software etc... bull****!!
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They said the hardware is not capable and then they also said they screen is not capable.. and now they say it is possible..
Lies.. covered by lies mixed with lies that are full of lies.
Will i ever buy any SE product again? no..
I used to love Sony's work.. but the X10 has pissed me off till death.
Mainly my service provider also lied to me when i bought the phone.
When i went back to return it, i asked.. "why did you say the phone has multi touch?" where by she replied "whats multi touch?"
They would not let me return it!!
So let this be a lesson to all.
If a new phone arrives on the market..
1.wait 1 month.
2.see what ppl have to say about it first.
3.make sure what was said is true.
4.buy handset.
Now oddly just a few seconds ago.. after hearing mt will be enabled for the x10...
I heard a loud crash and found the my table fell over and the phone is now destroyed as it will not boot... life is so ironic.
iead1 said:
Did you watch the video? He never stated it was a software problem, it's a hardware problem. The behavior of the multitouch chip seems to work awfully if you cross axises.
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The answer is simple and even comes from a movie... don't cross the streams.. lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9262661&postcount=697
This would work for dual analog controls for example....

No multi touch for x10

I contacted sony ericsson a few days ago and they contacted the global. They have now corrected their website and issued an apology. As this was only for the new line of xperias. The comment is on page 2.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/br/prev...10-ganhara-multitouch/comment-page-2#comments
Phillip says
Wow, really great news for us users of the X10, I thought 2011 would be clean in my X10.
Sony just to clarify this with my X10 MultiTouch will recognize more than TWO simultaneous touch right? Much better than the current DualTouch we have today.
SE Congratulations!!
Preview Sony Ericsson said: June 20, 2011, at 18:06.
Answer
Hello Felipe, okay? The multitouch feature on devices equipped with Xperia line Android 2.3 supports four simultaneous touches on the screen.
A hug.
Preview Sony Ericsson said: July 13, 2011, at 15:01.
Hi Philip. Unfortunately, contrary to what reported in the Android 2.3 update for the X10 win dual touch. We apologize for the mistake, because we just validate the information with Sony Ericsson. Support for four rings is present in the new line of business, including neo Xperia models, and Play arc.
A hug.

NOW. i'm pissed off.

I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

Lion3494 said:
I was too. When he said that I got so pissed. I mean at least give us improved dual touch. Jeez
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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well,what did you expect?thats obivious

josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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What is?
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me

riginal said:
Bad news for you gamers, Personally pinch zoom is enough for me
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Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

josephnero said:
well,what did you expect?thats obivious
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That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.

OmegaRED^ said:
That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
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Ikr. I mean the only thing we're really getting from this update is a camera. I mean come on.
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

OmegaRED^ said:
That SE hates the x10 and all it's users?
The worst thing is the hardware does not limit us.
If it was the touch pad then it would only make axis bugs if fingers were to cross.
In this case you don't even have to cross your fingers.
It just does it randomly and if you cross axis's.
It's just to make games that use dual directional controls useless.
SCREW YOU SE, SCREW YOU TO HELL.
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I don't blame u at all. I'm mad too
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

Lion3494 said:
Lol and I am a gamer. That's why I'm mad
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers

This is very depressing.
I think i'm going to go lie down and calm my self.
I just hope Z can figure out some way to get the MT chip flashed.

riginal said:
Yes, I know because I remember your posts about it, that's why I said you gamers
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Lol yup. I was the most eager of us all. Well looks like my Gameloft games will have to suffer
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"

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I will wait till GB arrives.
If there is no improvement to the dual touch.
"there will be hell to pay"
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I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

Lion3494 said:
I'm telling you. I mean they had us pumped up. FOR A WHOLE FREAKING MONTH
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread
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It took them a entire month to correct false information on a website.
A ENTIRE MONTH.
It's more like false advertising than anything else.

I know right. It makes me mad I even asked them and provided them the website to report to global Sony. But I guess its better than being dissapointed
Sent from my x10 on gingerbread

Seriosly?
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!

Tjotte said:
You guys can not be serious about beeing mad your not getting 4 point MT!?? SE already went way longer with this phone then originally planned, they said before release it was going to get 2.1, no more. And that it was a single touch phone, no more.. SE has done everything to please all the whiners out there (read in here)!! If you want the latest and greatest, BUY A NEW PHONE YOU CHEEP PRICKS! I´m happy with what my X10 has become. It's alot more phone then i paid for initially. OH, you guys still belive every word that pops out from SE Brazil? haha, thats funny
go ahead, bash me, go ahead and whine, please do, if it makes you feel better! Or grow up!
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There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.

OmegaRED^ said:
There is no excuse to disable a good feature.
Or make a device uncomfortable to use. <<"it does not reflect well"
Unless it is for the money.
Why are you calling us pricks anyway? let me guess you have disposable income.
Also the phone was not cheap. but SE is.
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What the hell?
Before this turns into a flamewar, I want to tell you:How are you sure that our device can even do multitouch at all??? The Nexus One, Desire all have the same buggy dualtouch we do, why should ours be different? How do you know that it's 'disabled', and not a hardware limitation, like it was in 2009?
You are just finding reasons to vent out your frustration on SE. You and Lion have whined about the update throughout this post, because of what? I NEVER trusted SE Brazil, these third world country company outlets more often than not don't know what they're saying, and are known to spread misinformation. If you guys took all the news with a grain of salt you wouldn't be dissapointed.
I've seen how you post in the forum. You are paranoid and critical of every small fault in this device. Just relax and be happy with what you get instead of being so angry all the time, you're also one of the catalysts of many flame wars because of your never ending quest to preach hatred towards SE. The disposable income comment was completely unnecessary. I also have disposable income. What are you trying to imply? See how you easily start flame wars?
@Lion. 'All that we are getting is camera'. Is that all? How about Gingerbread, facebook inside xperia, a new UI, and a lot of new apps? What else do you want?
Goddamnit people are hard to please. They take everyone's words for everything then get angry when it doesn't happen. They want more and more and more. At least be happy SE is giving us Gingerbread, instead of leaving us stuck with crappy 2.1.