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Pardon my boldness but I have been on this forum now for awhile and been reading and getting alot of very good information on ROOTING.
I have yet to ROOT my Hero and I am really in a struggle to do so because it seems to me that those of you, for the most part, who have ROOTED your phones are the same people who are having all the problems with this and that appearently because of the ROOT. I mean that folks with stock Hero's very rarely say that something isn't working as it should. App's withstanding. I refer to stock features only.
Reading the problems is the Who's Who of why I think it not a wise choice for me to ROOT at this time.
Anyway, I had my say and my stock Hero works just fine with its 1800 from Mugen. Remember, its a phone, not a pc even tho it share's some pc features.
Thanks for listening...and for a great place to learn.
The key piece of information to remember is that rooting does't cause the issues we experience. It's the custom ROMs and hacks we install that cause problems
I think most everyone here remembers that we're doing these things at our own risk.
As for the OP, if you don't feel a desire for the features available after rooting or flashing a custom ROM, that's cool. It's not for everyone.
Rooting, flashing, hacking... it's for tinkerers. People who like to find out why something does or doesn't work and then find a fix for it.
I would place a bet on this:
The people who don't have root or don't want to root, and they rarely post their issues in comparision with those who have rooted.
Yes, Most of the issues you see here are self inflicted, but it's what we do. We like a challenge/problem, it gives us something to do. Another reason to stay up till 3 in the morning to find out WHY it's jacked up.
If your issues are so bad, RUU and stick with stock (A whole new set of issues).
We mention our problems so that developers can try and fix them for the next release. In all honesty, Ive had one 1 problem, that was when I installed AOSP 1.6, which btw is/will not supported by our phone officially, I got the dreaded SMS issue that SOME people are experiencing.
Well yea many people post about issues who are rooted, but it is caused by other things they are doing that require it. Simply rooting your device shouldn't cause anything to go wrong.
Roms and other things that require root access tend to be beta, and even if they are not beta they are created by people, and not everything will be perfect.
It is pretty hard to permakill your hero compared to other devices. The only way I know of using the software is through flashing the radio, or messing with ESID and stuff like that.
Which you aren't supposed to do .
Yo Is_907
Not quite the 1st reply I was expecting but a very nice understanding instead. You SIR are a gentlemen and I thank you.
Yes, at the ripe old age of 62 I do believe ROOTing and all that goes with it are for you younger folks who have grown up with computers and like devices. I do tinker somewhat and in fact, my wife and I host a private FREE World of Warcraft ( WOW )server. Been hosting online game servers for about 9 years now and we love it.
Once again, thanks and as you said, I probably need alot more schooling before I would attempt a ROOT. My only problem is AWAKE time, its really high even tho I have removed those apps I can remove to help that situation. Hopefully, 2.1 will help us Non Roots somewhat but if not, then I will strongly consider ROOTing. As long as I know there are people like yourself to help us old dudes.
Thanks again Is_907, and to the rest of you who voiced your opinions, Thanks. All good points and even more reason to consider ROOTing.
rdisanza said:
Pardon my boldness but I have been on this forum now for awhile and been reading and getting alot of very good information on ROOTING.
I have yet to ROOT my Hero and I am really in a struggle to do so because it seems to me that those of you, for the most part, who have ROOTED your phones are the same people who are having all the problems with this and that appearently because of the ROOT. I mean that folks with stock Hero's very rarely say that something isn't working as it should. App's withstanding. I refer to stock features only.
Reading the problems is the Who's Who of why I think it not a wise choice for me to ROOT at this time.
Anyway, I had my say and my stock Hero works just fine with its 1800 from Mugen. Remember, its a phone, not a pc even tho it share's some pc features.
Thanks for listening...and for a great place to learn.
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There's not an issue with rooting in and of itself. Take me for instance. I've had some problems with my phone:
1. Apps2SD didn't work...but that was part of a ROM that was being beta tested.
2. Kernel locked up...that was due to an invalid setting I put into the kernel I was building.
3. Lost CPU kernel control...this is something I'm doing wrong in the kernel I am building. I simply restore a control file from a previous build and recompile.
These are things that were expected in testing and needed to be fixed or that I inflicted on my own.
I have a friend who has rooted his Hero, but hasn't applied any of the custom ROMs to his phone (although he has installed applications that require root). He's never had an issue with the phone.
It really depends on what you use it for.
rdisanza said:
Yo Is_907
Not quite the 1st reply I was expecting but a very nice understanding instead. You SIR are a gentlemen and I thank you.
Yes, at the ripe old age of 62 I do believe ROOTing and all that goes with it are for you younger folks who have grown up with computers and like devices. I do tinker somewhat and in fact, my wife and I host a private FREE World of Warcraft ( WOW )server. Been hosting online game servers for about 9 years now and we love it.
Once again, thanks and as you said, I probably need alot more schooling before I would attempt a ROOT. My only problem is AWAKE time, its really high even tho I have removed those apps I can remove to help that situation. Hopefully, 2.1 will help us Non Roots somewhat but if not, then I will strongly consider ROOTing. As long as I know there are people like yourself to help us old dudes.
Thanks again Is_907, and to the rest of you who voiced your opinions, Thanks. All good points and even more reason to consider ROOTing.
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Rooting really isn't too difficult. Just look at the intelligence level of some of the people who have managed to root (before anyone flames me, I'm mainly talking about myself)!
I believe it's entirely possible to root your phone, install a custom ROM that is close to stock, and then live a happy life without ever messing with it again.... Sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face!
Kidding aside, did you update your phone with the Sprint Maintenance Release? You mentioned "awake time" which this patch will fix without the need to root.
Honestly, I mess around with my Hero so much that I am often startled when it rings and I'm reminded that it's a phone.
watzone69 said:
Rooting really isn't too difficult. Just look at the intelligence level of some of the people who have managed to root (before anyone flames me, I'm mainly talking about myself)!
I believe it's entirely possible to root your phone, install a custom ROM that is close to stock, and then live a happy life without ever messing with it again.... Sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face!
Kidding aside, did you update your phone with the Sprint Maintenance Release? You mentioned "awake time" which this patch will fix without the need to root.
Honestly, I mess around with my Hero so much that I am often startled when it rings and I'm reminded that it's a phone.
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lol I second this my wife hates the fact the I have tis really nice phone and when ever I am at home she can never get ahold of because I am always doing something to it.
to the OP rooting really is not hard I mean if you are hosting a MMORPG server you could surely do it, but if your happy with your phone as is then that is really awesome. I myself when I first got my phone knew ABSOLUTLY NOTHING about android or linux or what in the work a kernel or apk was but with the help of the great community here I have learned so much. Dont get me wrong I am no where near where a lot of the guys on here are but I am learning and helping as much as I can just as those that helped me (i mean I am just happy that I think I could go through and make a theme now lol). if you are happy with the phone as is the only benifit of rooting I would bring up is being able to make backups of everything that way if anything does happen to the phone then you dont have to go trough and redownload apps and set everyhting back up again.
if you do decide to make the leap there are many people here more than willing to help.
Its not the Intelligence thing, I know I can ROOT if I wish either with PreKitchen or the cmd prompt. And YES, I do host a game server and can write script so its not that I don't have the know-how. Its just me, I really don't need to be ROOT'd but the thought of having full control is the thing. Guess you could say I am a Control Freak. If you have ever played online and been part of the game Administration, you know what I mean.
Thanks, I haven't said NO, still just wondering is all.
Regards,
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Its not the Intelligence thing, I know I can ROOT if I wish either with PreKitchen or the cmd prompt. And YES, I do host a game server and can write script so its not that I don't have the know-how. Its just me, I really don't need to be ROOT'd but the thought of having full control is the thing. Guess you could say I am a Control Freak. If you have ever played online and been part of the game Administration, you know what I mean.
Thanks, I haven't said NO, still just wondering is all.
Regards,
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oh please understand I wasnt trying to insult you at all, and yes I understand the control thing. thats why I rooted originally but then I flashed my first rom and got addicted. Now if im not changing my phone in some way on a pretty much daily basis I start to get the DT's lol.
No insult taken my friend. The DT's, lol WORD!
Rooting is actually deceptively easy. All you have to do is download fresh pre-kitchen and hit root. Even from the command prompt (which i used because i don't have access to a windows machine) is still easy. This is literally ALL you have to do: (These are instructions for macs, basically same on windows)
Step 1. Download Android SDK from android.com
Step 2. Download Amon Ra's Sprint Hero Recovery Image
Step 3. Copy the recovery image to root of phone's SD card (name it recovery.img)
Step 4. Open command prompt and navigate to tools folder of the SDK \AndroidSDK\Tools
Step 5. Type the following code with phone plugged in via USB:
Code:
adb shell
#cd /sdcard
#flash_image recovery recovery.img
#reboot recovery
Your phone should then boot into a screen with green text on a black background. Success! You have rooted. (Note: you will need to get the version of Stock ROM with SU for root access.)
Before you reboot the phone go into Backup/Restore>Nandroid Backup Then hit Home to confirm. This will say Performing backup...... and then say Backup complete! You may now hit Reboot System Now and it will start up like normal. Then, mount the SD card, and copy the Nandroid folder to your computer. This is your stock ROM, if anything goes wrong copy this back to the phone and restore it. You may boot into recovery by starting up the phone while holding the home button. Hope this helped.
HeroMeng said:
Rooting is actually deceptively easy. All you have to do is download fresh pre-kitchen and hit root. Even from the command prompt (which i used because i don't have access to a windows machine) is still easy. This is literally ALL you have to do: (These are instructions for macs, basically same on windows)
Step 1. Download Android SDK from android.com
Step 2. Download Amon Ra's Sprint Hero Recovery Image
Step 3. Copy the recovery image to root of phone's SD card (name it recovery.img)
Step 4. Open command prompt and navigate to tools folder of the SDK \AndroidSDK\Tools
Step 5. Type the following code with phone plugged in via USB:
Code:
adb shell
#cd /sdcard
#flash_image recovery recovery.img
#reboot recovery
Your phone should then boot into a screen with green text on a black background. Success! You have rooted. (Note: you will need to get the version of Stock ROM with SU for root access.)
Before you reboot the phone go into Backup/Restore>Nandroid Backup Then hit Home to confirm. This will say Performing backup...... and then say Backup complete! You may now hit Reboot System Now and it will start up like normal. Then, mount the SD card, and copy the Nandroid folder to your computer. This is your stock ROM, if anything goes wrong copy this back to the phone and restore it. You may boot into recovery by starting up the phone while holding the home button. Hope this helped.
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You don't have to push the asroot2 exploit!?!?!!?
Kcarpenter said:
You don't have to push the asroot2 exploit!?!?!!?
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Not if you're flashing a custom rom that already has it.
You have to have root access to initially install the custom recovery image. So you DO need to push the asroot2 exploit & run it on the phone.
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You have to have root access to initially install the custom recovery image. So you DO need to push the asroot2 exploit & run it on the phone.
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I never had to do that when I rooted. Flashed MCR right after I rooted using above method and it worked fine.
Yes the asroot2 exploit is was allows to root the phone, so therefore you had run the exploit initially.
Hey guys... I am brand new to all of this... just got my samsung vibrant a couple of months ago and love it. I have since always wanted to root my phone, but am scared of doing so because I don't want to void my manufacturer's warranty on it (and i'm paying for an extended warranty). I was reading through the "guide - tips - tricks" post and found a LOT of good information. But it did not really answer my questions due to me being so new, so anyway, here they are:
1. Do I need to create a back-up of my system the way it is before I root? if so, how do i do it (in beginner's language w/ step by step instructions pls). I saw where I can down load the "ROM Manager App." But I don't even understand what "Flashing" the Rom means?
2. I didn't understand the post about returning your system back to a "factory OS" the way it was when you received your phone... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728471 )In this post he explains supposedly how to do it, but I don't understand entering that stuff in a "terminal" on your computer... could someone explain in noob terms w/ step by step instructions?
Just to make sure... in theory, I can make a back up of my system before I root. Then I can root my phone. But if I ever want to "unroot" it, then I would have to follow the instructions in the link above, and then afterwards do a recovery of my nandroid backup to put me back to where I originally was? thanks guys
Rooting your phone will change nothing (meaning you lose nothing).
So, after you root, simply download Rom Manager, open it, click on flash recovery, then reboot into recovery (at this point you can make a backup of your phone).
Once you have root, you can also use titanium backup (in the market also) to backup all of your apps.
flash = install a rom *you do this in recovery, see above*
If you know nothing about this the best advice is to read the very first thread in this section. It walks you step by step from "hey I want to root" to "I'm rooted, Now what?" to "Hey I F'd up, can I fix this" and so on. And on the "Hey I f'd up" note apparently the Vibrant likes to brick, meaning it won't turn on and you'll think you broke it, so you need to be familiar with ODIN which you'll find out more about in the three threads I refer to. Also the first two threads in the Development section are also must reads. All of the answers are here. A lot of people here will be very helpful in giving guidance or pointing you to the answer your looking for but there are quite a few that will flame you for not searching.
You'll be much happier and more comfortable after reading these three threads. Good Luck.
Answer to question 1 can be found here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7324731&postcount=1
Answer to question 2 can be found here. The terminal you speak of is ODIN. Kind of a fail safe if you will. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734475
A "I need to send this back for warranty repairs" backup isn't critical since you can just load up Odin and flash it back to stock with that. No need for you to be hyper critical on that.
With this phone, pretty much anything you can mess up can be fixed with Odin (short of flashing things that aren't meant for this phone).
While I wouldn't volunteer to be the first to flash an image, I wouldn't be too scared of it either.
Rooting your phone will add a few files (superuser, busybox) and otherwise leave your system intact. If something breaks later & you need to sent it back to TMO/Samsung, you'd just Odin it back to stock and give them a "blank slate" which is actually something you'd want to do anyways (you don't want them having access to your gmail for example...when I send a laptop back for repairs, I always image it back to stock as well).
I would suggest you read through the Vibrant Bible and just poke around. When you see something that shows/tells you how to do things like flash, follow along (load up the software and do as much as you can without actually doing anything [if that makes any sense]).
Never EVER flash anything that wasn't meant for your phone (a few people bricked their vibrants by accidentally flashing the SPLs from their G1s...how they make that mistake I don't know, but it's happened). Be careful, follow directions & you'll be good to go.
There are youtube videos showing how to use Odin and get back to stock (I believe the bible has links) and there are probably also youtube videos showing how to do other things as well.
For root, all you have to do is download "RyanZA's OCLF 2.0" from the market and click the root button. Follow its directions & you are good to go.
For many of us, that's not good enough. You'll want to then install ROM Manager and have it download the new Recovery.
From there, the world is open, find a ROM and flash away! I'm partial to Bionix, but have recently started to like the Axura froyo ROM as well.
Is anyone feeling adventurous (or have an extra TouchPad)?
If so, here is something that may entertain you.
This is a android image with a msm8660\apq8060 kernel, the qcom chipset used in the touchpad. Image built from gingerbread stable branch. Android 2.3.3_r1, kernel 2.6.35-7.
Will it work? I have no idea. As my touchpad is still enroute, I have yet to try it, but it will update this thread\post when I do.
Links below. Have fun!
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ummm.... Who's gonna bite?
there is no recovery, nothing to flash this with, wanna explain?
Ill flash it
Ill flash it, if you can help me find a way. I tried messing with webOS dr but it uses jar files for installations
I'd like to flash it if:
1. There's a way a newbie like myself can do.
2. webOS doctor can reflash it in case of failures.
#1 shouldn't be much of a problem, since I'm a computer programmer but just new to android stuff.
But #2 concerns me.
I'm guessing you can probably use dd to copy the image over? If the image is already from a touchpad and uses a different bootloader, you could probably copy that too.
I'd be worried about webos doctor not being able to restore the device too though. If nobody else tries it, I might do it just to see what happens
Given the infancy of TouchPad Android Development, and the definite possibility of a shiny brick, I'm going to close this thread down.
@OP: If you are brave enough to flash this once your TP arrives, let me know the results, and we can open the thread back up.
I've got a new A500 and I intend to root it soon, but I would like advice on whether to take the current update 7.014.1 being pushed before I go through the rooting process? It currently shows having 3.2 OS version.
Zoandroid said:
I've got a new A500 and I intend to root it soon, but I would like advice on whether to take the current update 7.014.1 being pushed before I go through the rooting process? It currently shows having 3.2 OS version.
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Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
timmyDean said:
Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
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My concern, being still in the middle of researching just how to root the A500, was whether the update would have a similar effect as, for example, the more major update from 3.0 to 3.2, which, as I understand it totally changes the procedure used to achieve root. But if it won't matter one way or the other, I might as well take the update in the interim. I keep hoping to see a more simple 'one-click' style of root made available before I tackle this task. So far I've found something like 3 different ways to root the tablet between this forum and another. But each is a rather involved process.
Thanks!
timmyDean said:
Doesn't matter, the only way to root it is by flashing it which wipes it totally clean
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I downgraded, rooted, and then flashed the stock ROM without wiping. If going to any other rom, you might need to wipe.
There currently is no way to root a stock 3.2 or later tablet with a simple one click. In the past GingerBreak gave us that ability but since has been plugged. The other thing causing issues is ACER locked the boot loader making it difficult to flash in a new boot image to get to root.
=== 411 on rooting ===
So, if you have a tablet and want to root it then you have to start looking at security holes. This is what the GingerBreak exploit did along with others. But, ACER plugged those holes and as of today, nobody has found anymore.
So, you might look at exploiting an update.zip. These are OTA's that run but they are signed by ACER. So you can take it apart (unzip) and modify it, but you cannot resign it with an ACER Key. Therefore, you have to sign it with your key. Since it is NOT signed by ACER, the ACER recovery will not install it. So, you have to replace the ACER recovery with CWM which will install any update.zip regardless of who signed it. You just need to change the built in recovery by flashing in CWM recovery.
Lastly, you can just change the boot image and add root. This is easy and straight forward to do. This is just like making your own custom update.zip. Once you have your custom boot, you can then just use Nvflash to flash in your custom boot.
Now, fast forward. ACER (can someone please explain to me why?) decided to lock the bootloader thereby not allowing you to replace the recovery, boot, or any other area. Meaning, you cannot use Nvflash anymore without a key.
With the bootloader locked, you can only load new images if you know the key used to lock it. Of course, they use a public and private key combination, and they appear to use the serial number of the USB device as part of the public key making the keys on my tablet unique compared to yours.
With all this said, this ends all the easy simple rooting methods because first, they've plugged all the security holes (which they should do). Secondly, they locked the boot loader making it very difficult for people to just flash in a rooted boot image.
Armed with this, how do you root a 3.2? One way to do it is to get to a version prior to 3.2 loaded that has a security hole or does not have the bootloader locked. You now exploit it and get root. Now, with root access you make a 'backdoor' that only you know about which allows you to get into your tablet as root. With this done, now roll your tablet forward apply all updates. Since you have a 'backdoor' you can always gain root access.
Unfortunately, this gets to be messy or can be more difficult to do than just clicking on a GingerBreak application. However, if you follow the steps posted here in the forum, it's straight forward and easy enough to do. If not, you are going to have to wait for someone to find a hole and build a oneclick application. I wouldn't hold my breath on this, it probably will never happen because everyone is working on ICS.
Lastly, everyone should write to ACER, refuse to buy ACER (or any tablet) that doesn't allow you (AS THE OWNER) to change it. How would you like to buy a Ford to just have Ford lock the lug nuts on the rims so you could NOT put on your custom wheels.
I believe failure to allow owners to unlock these devices will be the downfall to Android. Windows 8 does NOT have such restrictions and businesses are not going to use devices that are locked and cannot be customized for business. Because developers write software they can sell, they'll move to Windows 8 and drop supporting Android and all these goofy flavors and restrictions. Android might be great and everyone hates Microsoft, but software vendors are going to NOT want to support all these devices.
my 2¢
timmyDean said:
There currently is no way to root a stock 3.2 or later tablet with a simple one click. In the past GingerBreak gave us that ability but since has been plugged. The other thing causing issues is ACER locked the boot loader making it difficult to flash in a new boot image to get to root.
=== 411 on rooting ===
So, if you have a tablet and want to root it then you have to start looking at security holes. This is what the GingerBreak exploit did along with others. But, ACER plugged those holes and as of today, nobody has found anymore.
So, you might look at exploiting an update.zip. These are OTA's that run but they are signed by ACER. So you can take it apart (unzip) and modify it, but you cannot resign it with an ACER Key. Therefore, you have to sign it with your key. Since it is NOT signed by ACER, the ACER recovery will not install it. So, you have to replace the ACER recovery with CWM which will install any update.zip regardless of who signed it. You just need to change the built in recovery by flashing in CWM recovery.
Lastly, you can just change the boot image and add root. This is easy and straight forward to do. This is just like making your own custom update.zip. Once you have your custom boot, you can then just use Nvflash to flash in your custom boot.
Now, fast forward. ACER (can someone please explain to me why?) decided to lock the bootloader thereby not allowing you to replace the recovery, boot, or any other area. Meaning, you cannot use Nvflash anymore without a key.
With the bootloader locked, you can only load new images if you know the key used to lock it. Of course, they use a public and private key combination, and they appear to use the serial number of the USB device as part of the public key making the keys on my tablet unique compared to yours.
With all this said, this ends all the easy simple rooting methods because first, they've plugged all the security holes (which they should do). Secondly, they locked the boot loader making it very difficult for people to just flash in a rooted boot image.
Armed with this, how do you root a 3.2? One way to do it is to get to a version prior to 3.2 loaded that has a security hole or does not have the bootloader locked. You now exploit it and get root. Now, with root access you make a 'backdoor' that only you know about which allows you to get into your tablet as root. With this done, now roll your tablet forward apply all updates. Since you have a 'backdoor' you can always gain root access.
Unfortunately, this gets to be messy or can be more difficult to do than just clicking on a GingerBreak application. However, if you follow the steps posted here in the forum, it's straight forward and easy enough to do. If not, you are going to have to wait for someone to find a hole and build a oneclick application. I wouldn't hold my breath on this, it probably will never happen because everyone is working on ICS.
Lastly, everyone should write to ACER, refuse to buy ACER (or any tablet) that doesn't allow you (AS THE OWNER) to change it. How would you like to buy a Ford to just have Ford lock the lug nuts on the rims so you could NOT put on your custom wheels.
I believe failure to allow owners to unlock these devices will be the downfall to Android. Windows 8 does NOT have such restrictions and businesses are not going to use devices that are locked and cannot be customized for business. Because developers write software they can sell, they'll move to Windows 8 and drop supporting Android and all these goofy flavors and restrictions. Android might be great and everyone hates Microsoft, but software vendors are going to NOT want to support all these devices.
my 2¢
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Hi, and thank you VERY much for posting such a nice explanation, especially in addition to all the work you have done posting your thread rooting 3.2. I understand, and completely agree with your explanation, as well as your position on taking control of what we bought and paid for. I take even stronger offense with this tablet's bootloader being locked than I do on my phones. This is not a discounted phone with a service plan tied to a cell provider. It has WiFi, but " I " am the only one providing its data (it never leaves my home). There is no justification here that I am 'leasing' a provider's technology . It was a gift, so I can't speak to choosing the vendor. But I like your wheel lug analogy.
I've been reading the threads on rooting, and both my Android phones are rooted and ROMed, so I've been around the block a couple times from the rooting aspect. But thus far I have been rather confused as to which route to take with the tablet. I don't want to be limited to using terminal for su access, so I want to 'fully root' the tablet. My goal is to allow apps like Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and others I use on the phones, as well as having Clockworkmod Recovery, or similar recovery capable of working with nandroid backups. But for now I don't have plans to use a custom ROM. So having rooted stock 3.2 would suffice.
Although I do fully understand the need to research these kinds of things before jumping in, I also know that often times information evolves, and lengthy threads which were once considered current info end up not getting updated during that evolution. This can lead to wasted time reading information which can no longer actually be used . So in the spirit of pursuing the most current info, could you recommend which thread I can use to get the best results while rooting this 3.2.1 OS Tablet with the above goals in mind?
Used Timmydean's method, it is pretty easy as long as you follow his instructions with in the zip file he has made with all the tools you need inside of hat zip file. You root, install super user and busybox then download Acer recover installer and that will install cwm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20654298&postcount=129
Good luck and thanks again timmydean for this method.
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Thanks, that sounds like the way to go. I'll head over to the link you provided.
I've got a couple of questions about the zip file at that post. I want to download that to my PC, and will be using ADB from there, right? I have the choice of doing so from either Windows XP SP3, or Windows 7 Home Premium. I read in older threads that many of the problems people had were only when they used XP, but were avoided by using Windows 7 (which was exactly opposite of what people experienced rooting the LG Ally), so it seems that in this case it is desirable to use Win7?
I presume I'll need to install a driver so the PC can 'see' the tablet. Is one provided in the tools, or do I need to download that somewhere?
I used windows 7. Yes the driver is in the zip file. I unzipped the file to a folder on my desktop and went from there.
In the zip there is a folder called usbpcdriver. Run the set up from within the fooder to get your driver... please read the instructions that say read me..
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Thanks. I intend to read everything I can get my hands on before I actually start this. I definitely don't want any trouble or, heaven forbid, to brick the tablet.
pretty easy i think... good luck and let us know when you get rooted
I'm not finding any actual instructions on the steps to take for this procedure. The readme file in version 3 zip file only talks about "changes" from whatever the original procedure was.
Where can I get the actual instructions for the entire procedure?
Edit: I just downloaded version 2 of the zip file. In that one there is an additional PDF called "Steps". It is a little more detailed, and says at step 20 that "you should now have 3.2 with a SU shell installed". Does the DotNetDetector step actually ROOT the device? That seems simple enough, but it still has no mention of things like installing ADB and the PC driver. I located the actual thread from which the single post was derived (the target of the URL above, where it is suggested I use TimmyDean's procedure). I am now looking through that entire thread to try to sort out where the instructions are.
AHA! Post 119 of that main thread says "Also the instructions and everything you need are in earlier posts.".
It appears this procedure needs an instruction manual written to consolidate all the gathered information. Having a link to only the download zip files isn't telling me the whole picture. I'll try gleaning the thread and see if I can put together all the steps needed from start to finish to make this work. Looks like ROOT ain't happening tonight.
http://www.multiupload.com/SLR6XSV841
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thats the link to read me file.. I about to jail break an Iphone 4... Wish me luck
I edited the above post while you were replying. I'll check out that link, thanks.
Good luck on jailbreaking the DemonSpawn 4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
he has updated it again. looks like a few steps where taken out to make it more simpler
good luck man. Iphone is jail broken
OK, so it looks like the file you just sent me a link to is the same one as the "Steps.PDF" file that was released in Version 2. It appears to me that what I need to do is blend the changes (detailed in version 3's readme file) into that original Steps file, to make a single contiguous set of instructions, and then start at the top. I notice it does mention installing the PC driver and ADB.
Do I have this right so far?
rdnkchevy said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20680452&postcount=137
he has updated it again. looks like a few steps where taken out to make it more simpler
good luck man. Iphone is jail broken
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That was fast! Wanna do my tablet?
The link you sent just now is to the version 3 zip file posted on 12/25, which is what I had initially downloaded. It does appear he streamlined the procedure, but it is that readme file which leaves out the part about installing the PC driver and ADB in the beginning, and also leaves out the part at the end telling you that you should now have 3.2 with a SU shell installed.
Please understand that I want to be "fully" rooted, not just have the ability to gain an SU prompt in terminal. Will this procedure "fully root" the tablet? I'm confused by what he means saying "SU shell installed".
Yes if you use his v3 file you will be.. you will need to down load acer recovery from the market after you are rooted and then flash clockworkmod.. this should all take you about 30 min if that...
rdnkchevy said:
Yes if you use his v3 file you will be.. you will need to down load acer recovery from the market after you are rooted and then flash clockworkmod.. this should all take you about 30 min if that...
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OK, thanks!! Rooting went well without incident. I just installed Root Explorer and Titanium Backup, and made a backup to SD of my apps and data. Then installed Acer Recovery Installer, and let it install CWM Recovery. But what is considered the "home" button on the tablet?? Is it the reset button? The only buttons on this thing are the Volume rocker and the Power button. ( I got brave and found out it is the POWER button ).
Edit: To clarify, I meant to ask which button serves as the Home button while you are IN the CWM Recovery environment, not while in the Android OS home screen.
Well a friend and I have been trying to root my LG Optimus L9 P769 and my Acer A500 for the last few days. I finally found and APX file that after puting it on my internal storage of the phone, going to file manager and opening it followed the instructions and it was rooted. I mentioned all that because I was wondering if there was a way to do it on the A500 that simple. I have tried SuperOneClick and it tells me
: Device missing drivers :USB\VID_0502&PID_3325&M1_01:
it then will ask me if I want to force it on to the device and when clicking yes its says : unknown error ( 0xe000024b) :
Has this happend to anyone. The tablet has ICS on it so im guessing that someone may have done this before?? I am pretty new to this as the cell phone was my first time rooting anything. Im sorry for the poor explanation but Im a mechanic not a computer wiz I can fix your car not your laptop.
I just tried this way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546593
This didn't help when I clicked on the Runit.win as administrator and it says NO ROOT missing MEMPODROID ....................
Lastly I have tried IconiaRoot 1.3 goes through its process the says something went wrong you are not root. I guess I'll just give up. the person I bought this from probably messed something up.
So out o 98 people not one person has something they can tell me about what might be happening to my tablet.... nice
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So out o 98 people not one person has something they can tell me about what might be happening to my tablet.... nice
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Sometimes, you just have to read and understand things. To be honest, I think most folks confused this with an LG issue which is why they didn't answer.
Not to mention, the threads are polluted with how to do it (read the stickies). Also, it's august. People go on vacation, have families, jobs, etc.
You want to root ICS I suppose. So let me explain things.
a. Memp... or whatever they called it, doesn't work. Being able to look at the /system is a lot different than having full RW access. Need to understand what root and system RW is. Root only means you can see it.
b. The apk root method, was only good prior to HC 3.2. When 3.2 came around, all bets were off.
Couple this in with a horribly locked bootloader, and it makes things difficult.
So, in answer to the root issue, you need to NVFlash the unlocked bootloader. (instructions in the Dev thread stickies). This is mandatory.
Then you either need to install a pre-rooted rom (flash a CWM or TRWP). Or, you can fastboot a unsecured kernel and continue with your stock rom. (fastboot available after NVFlashing skirlax_cz unlocked bootloader)
There are tools available in the Dev forum stickies. But for me, I prefer the manual method.
And this is how you get full root access for the 50x on ICS.
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