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Hi.
I'd like to connect 2 windows mobile 5 phones (htc/qtek9100) using only WiFi for talking between the 2 phones free. I want to connect them directly without using a wireless router.
Any ideas? Is this possible? If ,yes, can you tell me if there is a program available that does this?
If voise over WiFi is difficult, I could use a text over WiFi chat program.
Thanks in advance.
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=62
4Talk, never tried it, but its pretty innovative and seem like what your looking for
cjchriscj said:
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=62
4Talk, never tried it, but its pretty innovative and seem like what your looking for
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Wow!! This works really well. Even the demo is quite usable.
Instructions are :
1. make a connection (tutorial : http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=588&more=1)
2. Just run the program
Thanks cj
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
That looks Amazing...
wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )
mackaby007 said:
Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )
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yes you can control everything including setting and e-mail, office, outlook. However movie doesn't play for some reason, i am working on it now.
Thanks A Lot!
I've done it. And it works really well!
And indeed much better then the WM5 implementation of TCS.
wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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It's never gonna work for me...I'm using XP Home Edition. Home Edition does not support Remote desktop/TCS, even though the application comes with it.
Confirmed by microsoft. It will work with XP Pro though! Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.
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Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.
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nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)
dalelane said:
nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)
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yes that is correct
What do you guys think about the tools? know any registry hack to improve the speed?
@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In
Slave1 said:
@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In
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yes that is a simple solution as well !
wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?
xandergk2007 said:
Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?
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that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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same here, no key (hard button as well, not work)
Hi,
keyboard works perfect on my t-mobile Ameo!
Thanks for the great app. It really improves remote desktop usage on the ameo.
Johannes
Need some help please...
wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.
mackaby007 said:
Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.
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you don't really need to type in anything in the domain, you can leave it blank, the most important part is the first one, the computer name, you have to type in the IP address of your computer, or your actual computer name if you are connecting on a local network. check your computer IP, and just put it in there, it should work.
Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?
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Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?
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you need to forward the port, if i remember correctly, it's 3389 to your computer IP. Do a search on xda about port forwarding
thanks for Moskus for correcting me
I think the port is 3389...
great, it works!! thanksd alot guys
If someone got problem on the keyboard and button.
Try to install in the Device but not the MicroDrive.
I got it work after I reinstall it
HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello,
I have set up my Shift now, but there are some questions left. So I hope you can help me.
1. As a tablet PC i tried to draw something with Paint.net. I did not work, because somehow the pen was not recognized. It acted like a normal mouse, which is being moved. But in the standard paint it works flawless. I can draw with the stylus without any problem.
Do you know, why this is not working in Paint.net? Or do you know an other working alternative?
2. I unlocked my German SnapVue and tried to install the Office 6.1 from modaco. It installs, but after a soft reset I can not start that applications.
Do you know an office mobile 6.1 version, which works with a German device?
3. If I have WLAN and the 3G Modem both enabled, how can I be sure, that the WLAN connection is used?
Can I change it somewhere in Vista, so that WLAN is only used, even if the 3G Modem is there?
4. When I am online under Vista only with the cellular line, which network type should I choose?
Home, Office or public network?
5. I have only a 5GiB data for 3G. What should I do to count the internet traffic of Vista and SnapVue together?
Till now these are my questions. Thx in advance
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6. I thought it crashed and so I softreseted several times: Initial syncing of the calendar needs more than 30minutes!!!
How can this be? The rest syncs fast as usual.
LordDeath said:
Hello,
I have set up my Shift now, but there are some questions left. So I hope you can help me.
1. As a tablet PC i tried to draw something with Paint.net. I did not work, because somehow the pen was not recognized. It acted like a normal mouse, which is being moved. But in the standard paint it works flawless. I can draw with the stylus without any problem.
Do you know, why this is not working in Paint.net? Or do you know an other working alternative?
2. I unlocked my German SnapVue and tried to install the Office 6.1 from modaco. It installs, but after a soft reset I can not start that applications.
Do you know an office mobile 6.1 version, which works with a German device?
3. If I have WLAN and the 3G Modem both enabled, how can I be sure, that the WLAN connection is used?
Can I change it somewhere in Vista, so that WLAN is only used, even if the 3G Modem is there?
4. When I am online under Vista only with the cellular line, which network type should I choose?
Home, Office or public network?
5. I have only a 5GiB data for 3G. What should I do to count the internet traffic of Vista and SnapVue together?
Till now these are my questions. Thx in advance
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6. I thought it crashed and so I softreseted several times: Initial syncing of the calendar needs more than 30minutes!!!
How can this be? The rest syncs fast as usual.
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Some points I am not sure, but did you try launching the .exe files of office within the PROGRAMME folder?
Maybe the links (verknuefungen) are pointing towards the default English folder.
About Wifi...I think if you dont use Internet Connection Sharing, Vista is bound to use Wifi. So make sure ICS is off and not running in the background. Better close it in SETTINGS>>> MEMORY (Einstellungen > Speicher..oder so)
the lack of a proper X button to close apps is bothering me the most.
X button on WM
I'm using a QuickMenu 2.7, which is free and provides a better menu system than standard WM, plus a few features, including X-button (configurable) and screen rotation.
Hope this helps.
matthew.karas said:
I'm using a QuickMenu 2.7, which is free and provides a better menu system than standard WM, plus a few features, including X-button (configurable) and screen rotation.
Hope this helps.
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If because of the low memory you just want the smallest X-button util, just use the HTC X-button, takesup little room and does the job!
1.
i installed it just now on my tablet though not shift but also with a pasive digitizer
and it works for me used 3.35 beta
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network connection->properties for the wanted network connection
choose tpc/ip->properties->advanced
and set metric yourself
lowest number will always be used over higher ones so if you set the wifi to lower it will be used when 3g is on too
Farsquidge said:
If because of the low memory you just want the smallest X-button util, just use the HTC X-button, takesup little room and does the job!
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Thanks. I might install that when I run out of space. I like the screen rotation on QuickMenu for reading whole pages in portrait mode. Is there a low memory solution for that too?
Rudegar said:
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i installed it just now on my tablet though not shift but also with a pasive digitizer
and it works for me used 3.35 beta
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Hm, maybe I should ask the paint.net folks about help. There seems to be some incompatibility.
Rudegar said:
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network connection->properties for the wanted network connection
choose tpc/ip->properties->advanced
and set metric yourself
lowest number will always be used over higher ones so if you set the wifi to lower it will be used when 3g is on too
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I informed myself about this feature and you are right. This lets me prioritize my connection.
But: I found out, that the Shift disconnect the 3G Modem from Vista (but not from Windows Mobile), if I enable WLAN. So I don't have to do anything, it works as it should.
About my 5th question:
Because the 3G Modem is only the connected over Windows Mobile to Vista, I can use any datacounter on Windows Mobile site and it counts all my traffic. I use BatteryStatus
I am very impressed with Quickmenu, expecially it's rotation facility. Many thanks for letting me know about this freeware program.
Hi everyone,
I am new here and the owner of a HTC Snap for about one month now. However, I was wondering if it is in any way possible to map network drives (linux and windows) from my home lan on my snap through WIFI?
I've been trying to google this, but couldn't find a definite answer on this issue.
Standard devices (non touch screen) lack the abiltity to browse a network. Total Commander will get you half way there, but instead of using the IP address use the NetBIOS. You will have to find an older version of TC, since the newest version has had the LAN connection removed for Smartphones.. Resco may still have it though
You can use Microsoft Live Mesh (the beta is open enrollment) goto www.mesh.com sign in then select add then at the bottom of the screen you will see a link that says something like "use mesh on your mobile phone" click that to get the .cab file, once installed onto your device you can connect to live mesh, which you can then set up to shared folders on your network.
Thnx for the reply. To bad that I can't set up any drive mapping and quite strange that Microsoft didn't implement such features while mobile phones have WIFI on them.
That live mesh seems like a handy solution though. However it looks to me like all the data passes through the internet, even when I'm at home. If this is the case then it wouldn't be a very feasable solution because it would take ages before I would have moved large files if my mobile phone operator is in between my data connection.
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Thnx for the reply. To bad that I can't set up any drive mapping and quite strange that Microsoft didn't implement such features while mobile phones have WIFI on them.
That live mesh seems like a handy solution though. However it looks to me like all the data passes through the internet, even when I'm at home. If this is the case then it wouldn't be a very feasable solution because it would take ages before I would have moved large files if my mobile phone operator is in between my data connection.
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Yeah, that how it works (mesh over the internet) not the greatest solution but it will work. There are other options but most of them involve sending the data over the net.
Like I said, you can get it to work (drive mapping)
Ok, i know this one has probably been done to death, and yes i have searched the internet and this board for an answer and i couldn't find it. So what is my question you may ask?
My question is this. Where do i find a working remote desktop application for windows mobile 6.5 (OS version 5.2.21869) rom version 1.66.405.2 (FYI my provider is O2-UK, the device is fresh out of the factory and not O2 branded). I have an app installed at the monent that is supposed to work but all i get is a "connecting" message and nothing more and that's using wifi to a windows 2003 SBS server or my windows 7 pro desktop. I have tried IP address's and hostnames and still nothing. I did notice that if i connected to the server from my desktop while my phone was trying to do the same i did get a "connection failed" message on the phone. I'm also having issues getting vnc to work (it's acutally pretty much the same problem as i get with RDP).
I do know my wifi works becuase i use it all the time in the house and the GSM radio is definitely able to talk to my home network on the external side because exchange direct push is working perfectly in secure mode.
So ideas or links will be welcome.
Thanks guys and it's good to be back.
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I just had a thought. Would the activex control for IE that RWWP work?
The problem is your setup on your PC. Remote desktop on the phone works out of the box (as long as it can connect then it will.)
There have been discussions on this forum about Windows 7 and remote desktop, so it's there to find (I know you said you searched, but it is there!)
I use Windows XP and had my home PC setup for RDP connections already as I connect from other PCs, so when I got my HD2 it worked straight away.
I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.
M3PH said:
I should say at this point i am an IT Engineer. I have tested this to death. I have tried it with firewalls on and firewalls off. Exceptions allowed and not.
Please also note i was trying to connect to my windows 2003 SBS server which does work from my desktop (and if i really wanted to i can connect from the server to the desktop using RDP or VNC) and my preivous HTC touch diamond and the HTC artemis i had before that. Although since my last RDP install on a phone (and considering my last phone ran WM6.1) i've lost the cab file i had.
John, thanks for the fast response. I really do appreciated it but i think you missed the mark a little. If you wanna have another stab feel free.
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I'm not a Windows 7 user, so I can't vouch for any of the conversations that I've seen on here, but there have been many regarding this exact issue. It usually turns out that they don't have a version of Windows 7 that will allow them to host RDP sessions, or that there was a setup issue that could be resolved.
Have a look at this thread and see if anything there helps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533664
I got this from searching and was a little confused as to why, until I got past the first 2 posts
Hope you find something useful mate.
Nope that's of no use. It's only discussing very basic and standard things i have already done but i must emphasize that i am not really that concerned with connecting to my desktop from the phone (i'm just using it in my testing to prove that RDP is actually open and working on both computers). The server is the most important thing right now and as i have said it has worked in the past. I have not changed any settings on either of my machines and i can not get it to function with this new phone.
I'm pretty sure it's something wrong with the rdp client i had to install on the phone because it didn't come with one. I have read that there is one that works and one that doesn't but there was no further clarification of which was which. Right now i would settle for a verified known working client for the phone but i just can't seem to find a link. Hell if someone out there knows of a VNC client that works i'd settle for that.
Just to show how dedicated and willing i am to get this sorted i did follow the instructions for creating a vpn (well tbh i had already created one ) that connected no worries. Then I fired up the rdp client and tapped in the internal ip address for the server, username, password and local domain. It's come back and said it's "connecting..." but i can see no activity on my internet connection coming to or from my phone. Yet if click the shortcut on my Desktop that has the same details it connects faster than i can blink.
Also please take into account that windows 2003 SBS only has a firewall on the external interface. So the internal network is unprotected. The VPN connection bypasses the firewall for authenticated external devices and users. That is why it was suggested in the link you posted because the same situation is created when you use it on windows Vista or Windows 7.
p.s while i was proof reading this i tested it on the wifi (so on the internal side of the network) and nothing. I'm pretty sure from monitoring the wifi link activity that the RDP client isn't sending out any data at all which sort of comfirms that there is a working and non working client. Seems i have the wrong one. Has anyone got any links to windows mobile 6.5 RDP or VNC clients that i can test?
Thank you everybody.
I didn't realise that there was a non-working version of remote desktop out there. That sort of explains it then doesn't it!
I know it's overkill, but if you can't find a working version of the app then you could always flash a ROM that has it, but like I said, the version that was on my phone when I got it (1.43 ROM WWE) worked from day 1.
You may not have an answer yet, but at least you've ruled a lot of stuff out.
Hope you get it sorted mate.
Now isn't a good time to reflash the rom because i'm a bit busy with other things but it is something i was considering solely because the HTC text messaging application is awful and i'm pretty sure it has a memory leak in it.
So what's the recommendations for roms taking into account that according to HTC i have the latest version for my provider.
Also i'm still open to suggestions on the VNC front?
RDP works flawlessly here too, but then again I had it in my ROM. You say you saw 2 versions of the RDP client, I'd recommend trying the other one, and if it still doesn't work... happy flashing The ROM in my signature works fine, but it's just one of many.
Well i read it in a post on another forum as a response to someone having a problem like mine BUT with windows 7 home prem which isn't ever going to work. Unfortunately there was no links provided.
I think i better go and get the kettle and move it into my office and start some hardcore searching. Man, I hate hardcore searching.
VNC Viewer
Attached is a FREEWARE VNC viewer I have been using on various HTC devices I have owned over the years, and it works perfectly well for me. I know you guys are discussing RD Protocols and Services, but if you have UltraVNC server available on your "host" PC, then this little beauty will work like a charm!
I use it all the time to dial into my home PCs and switch torrents on and off of downloading etc. and it is faultless. I also use it on my work phone to connect to our customers PCs in order to remote fault find / rectify etc..
N.B. This viewer IS NOT written by me, nor have I anything to do with it, all I know is that it is based on FREEWARE public domain code, and issued as freeware, and on an "as is" basis to the WM community.
interesting to see you have the exact same version of the phone as me. I have tried that VNC viewer already with no luck at all but i'll give it another go and see what happens.
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just tried it out and with good results. Hooked up to the server on the wifi just fine but i really wouldn't wanna have to click n drag something. so that will buy me sometime while i work on the RDP thing.
Thanks namwollem
Ok spent almost an hour search and got a couple of hits. Thanks to a thread on social.microsoft.com i found the cab file should be called wm6rdp.cab. Ran a search for it in google and found 2 different versions. One cooked by a guy called finster and another one (looks more offical) the finster version installed and seemed older than the version i had as it didn't support remote storage. That failed to do anything new. I next tried the more official looking cab and this removed the finster version, soft rebooted the phone and looked promising but alas it didn;t do anything different. Interestingly i now have 2 RDP icons on my start menu. both run the same app so i'm a bit confused as to how that happened.
I'm really quite stuck now and, as i mention before, i want to avoid flashing the phone for now so i'm still open to ideas.
I hate it when things get wierd. I removed all the rdp clients i had installed in an effort to tidy up a little bit. There was one that would not remove. It was marked "bengalih productions windows mobile..." so i figured i would give the phone a reboot and try see if it worked and hey presto it does. This is the original client that i installed and the first that didn't work and i haven;t changed the config at all so i'm completely baffled. I have noticed in further testing that if i select any options (like fit to screen, or colour depth) it will not connect but if you give it the user and machine details it seems to work. It also is not not RDP version 7 compatible (so you can't use it to connect to windows 7 pro or ultimate machines) but who cares when you have VNC and RDP working?
So i am happy. Thanks for all your help guys.