Hi out of the blue my HD2 has started crashing (then rebooting automatically) when I use the popup keyboard , all other functions seem fine, however if I want to send a message or use IE , the phone locks briefly and then reboots as soon as I hit a letter on the popup keyboard and ideas?
Such a thing never happened to me.
And I used WP7 for almost half a year - first the DFT release, then a "Chevron" enabled one, finally a "NoDo" version. Everything always nice.
But, maybe like many other problems I read about, the source is an "incompatible" SD card.
Or, for that matter, a bad flash?
I had the same problem it was due to a incompatible SD card i reflashed with later rom and worked fine after that never had the problem again
Reflash the rom
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try syncing to zune and copying another few hundred MB of music too it
i have a similar problem, over a period of time my SD card filled up and eventually it started restarting, dumped a bunch of music on and it worked fine
its a bit of a guess but i believe that the card i have has portions of dodgy sectors, they are not faulty and will work but for whatever reason the OS has issues with them
now this might just be me, but its worth give it a go, it works for me!
I've used win7 with 3 diffrent sd card i didn't that problem
Thx for the replys guys , It seems to have fixed it self , I took the battery out and left it out for a while and then rebooted and it was fixed , not had it since
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I recently got a Touch Dual/Niki and from time to time when being in standby (the screen turned off) it doesn't respond on any button press, nor does it react when trying to call it, I've got it back up and running only by removing the battery, setting it back and then I can turn on the device again.
I haven't really customized anything and the only 3rd party software that I know that have been running at the time are gmail client and/or live messenger
Anyone else experienced the same problems? ..does this seem like some software bug, or is my hardware faulty?
Rom: 1.31.414.02
Rom date: 11/02/07
Radio version: 1.58.16.27
Protocol version: 25.61.30.03H
Operator Saunalahti/Finland
same problem here!
I'd guess hardware, but just to be safe, you should probably do a hard reset and see if that helps. I had a problem with mine where it would lose random amounts of time every once in a while (the clock would be completly wrong) and the screen would become completely unresponsive for over a minute just after I rebooted the phone. At one point, it just decided it didn't want to boot and just got stuck on the WM loading screen, even after multiple hard resets. I replaced the device and the new one works perfectly.
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
ok, just did the hard reset, if it happens again I'll go replace it
Lord of the Badgers said:
yup, me too.. happened today after i finished a call. i just left the thing alone for a bit & was ok later
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same here. at the moment I try to live with that, although it's rather annoying. happens 3 to 4 times a day. no response to touchscreen or buttons, but touching the screen makes the backlight going from dimmed to bright. (you know, after quite a while being idle, it dims and after another while it goes to standby)
about half a minute later it's back and executes some (or all) of the inputs at once.
I use some third party programs and tools, but nothing which diggs deep in the system (except AEButton+). So maybe it's one of them. Also I use scheduled IMAP synchronization, which may also play a part in this.
Any one-fits-all solution is deeply appreciated. (Not very impressive to show a frozen device...)
Cheers,
jekk
Ok, it just happened again.. I'll go complain to service.
Same thing here... happens whenever it feels like it. I thought it may have been one of my apps.... particularly Photo Contacts Pro as every now and then that does some strange things, but interesting to know this happens to others as well.
yeah
just happened to me again as well
any solutions?
*bump*
Currently I wonder whether this is a hardware or software issue. So some questions:
did someone flash the problem away?
did someone hard-reset the problem away?
did someone device-replace the problem away?
This would be helpful.
Cheers,
jekk.
Flashed my niki.
I'm getting very regular freeze up's on browsing the internet with a 3G connection. I'm waiting for a new ROM to arrive to determine if the problem is software/hardware (unless both ROM's use the same base Rom )
My old prophet had an easy accesible reset button, unfortunately I have to remove the batterycap now and I have a feeling the mechanisme won't hold for 2 years if I open it every day a couple times.
FWIW, my device is currently sent in for service, I'll report back with the outcome when I eventually get a device back..
Isn't it just brilliant, after a week of "service", they tell me freely translated: "No problem found. Device reset. (Might it be the standby mode from which the device wakes up by pressing the power button?)"
Of course they did not bother to call me to ask for further clarification... Now I'll have to wait until it arrives back at the shop where I sent it in so I can go and send it back..
Oh the joy!
Same freeze problem
Hi guys
I' have same freeze probleme on my niki, i made hard reset without solving nothing.Only solution remove battery and restart.
In my case it always happens while system is in stand by so my phone goes offline and i havent any advice.
Last mornig after a night recharge a foud my niki completely uncharged with red led.I have ordered a new battery hoping the problem may be in my battery.
I had the same problem. Sometimes it wouldn't wake up when I pressed the powerbutton.
Last thursday I flashed my device with Tom Codon's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364335
I haven't got the problem since
I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I had never experienced any freezing problems with my niki until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card. Now it has happened three times! Is it possible that the driver is to blame? We know older devices had some perculiar issues with external storage upon wakeup.
For clarity; I have a 16-key niki from orange using the stock rom and the card is an sandisk class 4.
Let me know if you guys have a similiar setup.
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I've just hard reset mine .... now seems stable ... before it was freezing every time I tried to use it.
So now I have no SD installed + no apps.
Before
SD with very few apps
Sprite backup HTC version
Informant previuos version
Flex Mail 2007
Copilot 6
Fsecure from Tmobile customisation
So I am thinking SD compatability may have been my issue ... I only had a 2GB Sandisk Premier. Will try a 1GB later
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[...] until yesterday, when I first started using my new 8gb sdhc microsd card.
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That's interesting... I am also using a (4gb) micro sd card. Maybe this really is the reason for the freezes. hard resets (2 till now) didn't solve the problem for me and I have not tried flashing a new rom yet. so this goes well with the possibility of a misbehaving driver thing.
As I wrote I only had freeze up's during browsing the www. After reading that there might be a sd-card driver problem I changed all IE temp directories back from the storage card to the device itself and I now can browse uninterrupted. So it seems that there is a slight driver issue.
Ralph
Changing SD card semed to fix things for me ..... at least for th last few days.
Before I swapped card I had constant problems
1- Hello guys, I have an T-Mobile USA HD2. I love it but it freezes like crazy, 2-3 times a day if not more. I ran Task 29 to delete every possible trail of previous roms followed by a hard reset but nothing. It will still freeze.
2- I also have a lot of signal problems. Its constantly changing from 3G to Edge on the same location. I know that is not normal so I spoke to T-Mobile and they changed the SIM card but it will still change the signal back and forth. I re-flashed couple of radios but nothing, I only accomplished to drain more battery.
3- BSB Tweaks is an awesome app but there are issues with the Rotation Option. If I enable Rotation to the "Start" -> "home screen" the photo album and music will be affected because the already come with landscape support. I tried to disable the landscape support for these using a registry editor but did not find a way.
Is there any solutions for these problems? Any help will be very much appreciated, not only from be but as well from others with the same or similar problems. Thanks in advance to all of you.
Note: I noticed the recently released TMUSA HD2s come with a yellow reset button. I bought my back on March when they sold out Nation wide with in the firs 4 hours and it comes with a RED reset button. This might explain a lot. If you know something please share. Thanks!
I would like to know if there is help for freezing issue.
I also did Task 29, flashed few different radios, few different roms incoluding stock, and it still happens. If my phone freezes I have to try for 20 minutes to restart it, as it hangs everywhere starting with bootloader, to manila.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
I had a similar issue as well and it turned out to be a cab file I had installed that was not compatible for my ROM. I had to go through and isolate which cab it was by using the date it was added and when I noticed the issues.
When your phones freeze....does it do it radomly or while trying to access or carry out anything specific. Your problem could be caused by any number of reasons but giving as much detail regarding your problem keeps you from getting so frustrated trying all sorts of fixes. Out of curiosity what ROM's are you both currently running?
I am currently using Elegancia ROM from August 23. Before I was using Energy ROM. I tried newest, stock Rom for T-Mobile HD2 but it didn't solve the issue.
I tried reinstalling HSPL, but it didn't help either.
The problem started after I put Ubuntu 0.2 on my sd card. I was playing with it for a little and it suddenly rebooted my HD2. I though, OK, no big deal, it's just in infant stage.
So I booted Windows again (energy rom with 2.12 radio) but it hanged while Sense was loading. I wasn't able to get it back to life after few reboots so I did a hard reset (vol up/down power on) It worked fine.
My problem mostly happens when I run android and when it reboots for some reason I can't get back to windows. It hangs, sometimes it hangs on bootloader before it even shows me radio and data version!! sometimes it goes past bootloader and hangs right after sense launches, and sometimes it is perfectly fine.
It also seems that when I just use WinMo it is fine, I can power down, and soft reset without major issues. But after running android I get that issues, especially when Android crushes.
I am thinking that android may be corrupting some WinMo files, but how is that possible? Android doesn't have access to NAND so technically it shouldn't prevent WinMo from booting on bootloader level.
Please let me know if you need me to explain more.
Thanks for your help
KML
PS. I don't have any custom cabs installed at this point. I have super fresh and clean installation of elegancia rom
Yeah...Android may be the culprit. I have shyed away from trying it because I have talked to quite a few people (not on XDA) that have tried it on the HD2 and they have the same issues. The Android OS really makes the HD2 unstable. I personally am going to hold off on the Android bandwagon until a little more time passes, after all WinMo works just fine for me. Try just running on WinMo and see what happens. Based on what you have said, it runs fine as long as you are not using Android
yeah, it's is good idea to stay away for some time. But Android development needs testers. If no one is willing to test than there will be no improvement.
What I can't understand is that even after I do hard reset I still get freezes.
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yeah, it's is good idea to stay away for some time. But Android development needs testers. If no one is willing to test than there will be no improvement.
What I can't understand is that even after I do hard reset I still get freezes.
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Yeah I agree with you on Android development needing testers. I do rely on my phone a lot for work purposes and I can't always afford to have the phone freezing up constantly.
Are you hard re-setting with the Android OS still installed?
Technically it is still installed but it is only present on the SD Card, and not anywhere else so it shouldn't matter. Next time I get freeze I will try to remove SD Card before hard resetting.
I tried booting few times with SD Card taken out, but it didn't help.
KML
I have the same issue...i'm using energy rom and i noticed that lately its freezing like hell...at least twice a day...!! NRGZ already notice the freezing issue and is trying to solve it...but it still crashes. I'm constantly changing the rom as he updates...and right now i'm running the August 25.
Sometimes it crashes while being turned off...and i need to take the battery off to restart.
I had the same issue,all i did loaded a diff rom and formatted my sim card problem solved
I did format my SD Card many times. Did not help. I used recommended FAT32.
Yesterday my phone froze when I was trying to add program shortcut to Sense... silly.
I rebooted phone, it booted fine, but hang as soon as I went to check my TXT messages. Rebooted again and it is working fine until now.
I currently have Elegancia ROM with 2.12.50 radio, have not been using android for couple of days, but it is still there on my SD Card.
It is getting a bit frustrating. I wonder what else I can try to make it stop freezing.
KML
My phone rebooted again yesterday.
I couldn't boot to windows for the next 20 minutes... I tried about 10 times before it worked. 2 or 3 times it booted windows and froze as soon as I clicked on one of sense tabs.
I haven't played with Android for past week and the freezing problem is still an issue. I even removed andorid form my SD Card.
When all this happened I was just using skyfire to browse internet.
I am hopeless at this point. I have no idea what else I could try to make it stop rebooting and freeezing.
Any ideas?? I would greatly appreciate any help.
PS. I recently found a thread about a tool that searches for corrupt files on Android devices after clean flash, is there something similar available for WinMo?
Here is the thread I am talking about:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/fixflash-rom-flash-verify-and-repair-tool/
screen doesn't respond to touch
I just started having this issue today. I have used darkstones most recent build from the 18th. it has worked perfectly till today. I use energy roms. i just installed a older rom today still have the same problem. this problem appears weither in droid or winmo. All the hard keys still function and the phone can receive calls. Thanks for any help you may be to lend.
my phone just froze again.
All I did was take it out of my pocket and unlock screen, and there it is: FREEZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Funny thing is that Android doesn't freeze for me... it crashes sometimes, but never freezes. It is only WinMo that freezes on me or doesn't boot. Android always boots.
I really wish the NAND was accessible so I could flash Android to NAND and forget about WinMo
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I really wish the NAND was accessible so I could flash Android to NAND and forget about WinMo
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you, me and 17,000+ HD2 owners are all wishing for that exact thing
Your issue with the freezing/rebooting is stumping me too. You've flashed different ROM's, including stock, done hard resets, checked the battery pins, reformatted the SD card and even tried running the phone without the SD card inserted...do I have all that right? The fact that it doesn't show the symptoms when running Android just makes it that much more mysterious. I'd say it all points to a hardware issue, but if it doesn't act that way when you're in Android, that (probably) shoots that theory out of the water. But, at the same time, running task 29 and reflashing different ROM's should also have eliminated any possible software-based causes, so....
the only thing that comes to my mind is micro SIM card. I did an upgrade on my ATT account to get iPhone (traded for HD2) and those fu...ers at ATT wouldn't let me keep my regular sized SIM card. I had to use my old SIM card and cut it's inside to place micro sim in it. I used a regular sied SIM to hold micro SIM in place.
I don't think however that this is a problem because I believe my phone froze few times before I did that SIM card swap besides, I have no issues with phone calls or reception both in Android or WinMo.
I am clueless at this point.
I just got another Android version and will try it to see how it works. If I have any problems I will try using my wive's SIM card to see if it helps with freezing and WinMo booting.
KML
EDIT: ANDROID just rebooted itself. 2 minutes after clean installation. geee, I am leaning towards Hardware being the issue.
What I did is:
1. open browser
2. go to google
3. search for speedtest
4. open speedtest.net
and Android rebooted itself and now my phone can't go past Tmobile bootloader logo (pink square with 'stick together' letters)
I will put different SIM inside now and try everything again
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the only thing that comes to my mind is micro SIM card. I did an upgrade on my ATT account to get iPhone (traded for HD2) and those fu...ers at ATT wouldn't let me keep my regular sized SIM card. I had to use my old SIM card and cut it's inside to place micro sim in it. I used a regular sied SIM to hold micro SIM in place.
I don't think however that this is a problem because I believe my phone froze few times before I did that SIM card swap besides, I have no issues with phone calls or reception both in Android or WinMo.
I am clueless at this point.
I just got another Android version and will try it to see how it works. If I have any problems I will try using my wive's SIM card to see if it helps with freezing and WinMo booting.
KML
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Good call, that's about the only other thing to try. However....have you tried running WM with sense disabled, to see if it still has the freezing/rebooting issues? That might at least narrow the problem down to something sense-related (which is easily the most common cause of any software-related issue on this phone)
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Good call, that's about the only other thing to try. However....have you tried running WM with sense disabled, to see if it still has the freezing/rebooting issues? That might at least narrow the problem down to something sense-related (which is easily the most common cause of any software-related issue on this phone)
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I have NOT tried that but I will. The problem is that I often can't get past bootloader logo...
I modified my post above so please read it (I mentioned Android crashing)
thanks for all your suggestions
I just tried different SIM card. Phone booted fine to WinMo, and froze as soon as I clicked on Messaging tab in sense.
I will try to disable Sense for now.
I disabled Sense, rebooted WinMo launched Android repeated operation of trying to get to speedtest. Site launched, but phone rebooted after a while.
I am getting to conclusion that some software including flash causes my phone to reboot and then I can't get it to boot again..
Right now my phone is stuck again on bootloader. I already tried rebooting twice.
What I noticed is that every time my phone freezes it gets a little warmer in the lower left corner
What hardware is located in that area?
First of all, thanks for the awesome threads on how to mod the HD2!
I have two hd2's and the first gingerbread 2.7 is up and running with no problems for the last week. The second hd2 I bought was in ever nicer condition and I installed the software in the same order. I have this rom on it:
NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V2.7_NAND_(Android-2.3.4)_update
and the 2.12 radio
Now the phone will randomly lock up with the sim card inserted, usually right after I get to the home screen. I have noticed the phone freezes right when it recognizes the Tmobile network. I have tested my sim on the other hd2 and have no problems. I reflashed Windows Mobile and have tried different radios along with a task 29 cleanup and reinstalled 2.7 and tried 2.6 for fun...
I'm stumped and think I might have bought a hardware problem. Any thoughts? I think I've exhausted similar threads for an answer.
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First of all, thanks for the awesome threads on how to mod the HD2!
I have two hd2's and the first gingerbread 2.7 is up and running with no problems for the last week. The second hd2 I bought was in ever nicer condition and I installed the software in the same order. I have this rom on it:
NexusHD2-Gingerbread_V2.7_NAND_(Android-2.3.4)_update
and the 2.12 radio
Now the phone will randomly lock up with the sim card inserted, usually right after I get to the home screen. I have noticed the phone freezes right when it recognizes the Tmobile network. I have tested my sim on the other hd2 and have no problems. I reflashed Windows Mobile and have tried different radios along with a task 29 cleanup and reinstalled 2.7 and tried 2.6 for fun...
I'm stumped and think I might have bought a hardware problem. Any thoughts? I think I've exhausted similar threads for an answer.
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Sounds like hardware issue to me, I have this problem on my HD2 but it seems to be any time I do anything that challenges the CPU at all, like browsing netflix films, I get an FOD and have to do a battery pull. I am sending in to HTC for repair.
Make sure your device is in warranty and then see about sending it in. Make sure you flash complete stock from SD before though to get your device back in warranty, if you have any questions on doing that ask here.
Also, just for grins, try a completely different ROM, not just an older version of the same ROM, and see if it does it.
I had similar issues with a slow 8 X sd card, replaced it with a faster card and the problem has gone.
Try a clean and reflash including task 29 and full format on the sd card
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I had similar issues with a slow 8 X sd card, replaced it with a faster card and the problem has gone.
Try a clean and reflash including task 29 and full format on the sd card
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Why would the SD card have any effect on his WinMo ROM and NAND Android ROM freezing?
Thanks for the ideas guys.
This phone just keeps teasing me. The working phone is so awesome that I hate to give up...
So, I can go to clockwork recovery and do a factory reset, and then when I reboot, the gingerbread 2.7 rom is still there and working fine without the sim. Then...
Just tried the hyperdroid rom with and without sim. Without sim, it works great, with sim in sometimes I can get to the dialer, but when I dial a number it acts like it's going to make a call and then freezes. I have been able to send a text when the phone booted once so I know it can send info through the radio??? I might have to sell this phone to someone who knows what in the heck they are doing! It's like a hot girlfriend with a nasty personality.
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Thanks for the ideas guys.
This phone just keeps teasing me. The working phone is so awesome that I hate to give up...
So, I can go to clockwork recovery and do a factory reset, and then when I reboot, the gingerbread 2.7 rom is still there and working fine without the sim. Then...
Just tried the hyperdroid rom with and without sim. Without sim, it works great, with sim in sometimes I can get to the dialer, but when I dial a number it acts like it's going to make a call and then freezes. I have been able to send a text when the phone booted once so I know it can send info through the radio??? I might have to sell this phone to someone who knows what in the heck they are doing! It's like a hot girlfriend with a nasty personality.
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More like a fat girlfriend with a great personality
Try erasing everything! That is to say flash task29, then MAGLDR, then CWM, then Android,
or just try Android from SD and see if it still does it.
Progress!!!
Ok, so the SD rom boot seems to have helped, and it seems I'm so close to a stable hd2 now...
Here is what I did:
1. I unzipped the sd version of the 2.7 (or 6?) tytung gingerbread rom to the sd card.
2. Performed the AD recovery to get the phone to boot to SD and picked the file from the sd card.
3. Got really confused when the hyperdroid rom still booted, but happy that I could have the sim card in the phone without an instant freeze.
So here is what I have on the phone now:
I've tried various radios
Android Version 2.3.3
Kernel Version 2.6.32.15_tytung (you know the rest)
Mod Version Hyperdroid
I was estatic I could load the sim card and I made an actual phone call.
Now the tmobile network seems to be cycling but the phone reads the sim card as my phone number. The 2.15 radio seems to recognize tmobile the best. The problem now is that I want to get rid of hyperdroid and just have the gingerbread.
The second big problem is that wifi is cannot be turned on, it's just reading "error", and I still get some good freezes.
I beginning to get the feeling that this is an issue above my head. I'm going to try to get rid of hyperdroid, see if that helps the wifi issue and if nothing works, on to the next phone...
Can anyone point me to the forum that explains how to get rid of the hyperdroid?
Used task 29 to reflash nand
Ok, so I used task 29 to get rid of the hyperdroid on the nand and it boots nicely onto the gingerbread 2.7 rom. Wifi and the cell network can coexist for awhile and then the phone freezes. I tried a new radio with no luck....
I guess that's it. I really needed a phone with access to data and not a android "touch". It will go on ebay, unless I can get some more posts on the forum. If someone wants to post it for me in the classifieds I'm looking for 160 shipped anywhere in the US, sent usps priority mail. It's in perfect cosmetic condition, except for a tiny scratch on the battery door plate. No wear on the buttons.
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More like a fat girlfriend with a great personality
Try erasing everything! That is to say flash task29, then MAGLDR, then CWM, then Android,
or just try Android from SD and see if it still does it.
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this help me
Sold
The HD2 is gone, sold within 2 minutes on ebay. Just hope the stable one doesn't crap out on me!
Hi
I flashed my HD2 with yuki's WP7 ROM (thanks to him and all of you who made this possible!). I updated my phone to the latest build (incl. ISV beta cleanup). This was some time ago, but yesterday, the phone once crashed, rebooted, and now i don't see the start screen anymore. After the phone is booted, i do see the time and the batterystatus, as well as the GSM-Indicator. But i don't see any tiles! I can receive phone calls, i can shut down the phone and start it again, but the start (home) screen is just empty.
Anyone has an idea, about how to fix this? I tried installing some tile-cabs from the yuki-thread, but no success.
Need help please.
Thanks.
Martin
I've suffered the exact same problem - same ROM too.
I got tired of it after the third re-flash in as many weeks that I decided to change the SD card (was using the 2Gb card that came with the HD2).
I put in an 8Gb card (also from a HD2) and haven't had a problem since - fast, stable and really happy with how it's behaving (although bluetooth still sucks the battery like it's going out of fashion, but that's another story...).
Hmm, too bad. Thanks for your reply.
I did a few reflashes the last few weeks also, sometimes i was totally stucked with locked sd-card, etc.
I'm using a seperatly bought 8GB sd card,on which WP7 ran fine for 3 Month...
If i don't find a solution to this issue, i will go back to WM6.5, and buy a new HTC in about 1 month...
bye
martin
Hello there
My apologies if I am not supposed to start a new thread for my question.
My device is HTC touch HD (blackstone)
I have recently downloaded Android 2.3.3 from a link posted by arrrghhh :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167324
All functions seem to work fine except that the phone frequently freezes or the screen goes black sometimes. This occurs randomly when using different app. Some of which work fine on occasion but it causes this problem on other occasion. Sometimes even opening the contact list freezes the phone.The other day Google Navigator worked for 20min ok before the phone stopped responding. Sometimes an application that was working fine suddenly does not start. Sometimes everything works perfect.
As you can see this issue sounds quite random and there is no pattern to it that I could think of.
Is there anything I could do about this?
Further info:
My SD: 8GB
Phone works fine with WM 6.1
I did not do partition for SD card
I hardrest my WM 6.1 thinking it could sort the problem but it didnt
Your help would be much apprciated
AlSultan
i had a similar problem when using the 8gb sd disk.
it eventually corruped the android folder and i could not recover that sector, but after much difficulty i was able to reformat the disk.
in the meantime i tried a 2gb disk from another phone, and now the android seems a lot more stable, i also did not have to edit the startup.txt file as much, only added 'rel_path=' and added 'physkyboard =' statements
good luck