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TeleNav for Athena

Nice job... Telenav
Enjoy...

Sorry, before I execute this CAB,,,, what is it? Like a TomTom GPS thing??

Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.

lbarouf said:
Telenav is a Navigation tool. Unlike TomTom, it uses maps stored online, that are up-to-date and updated frequently. They use NavTek if you wonder. Check the details here: http://www.telenav.com/products/tn/
I use it on other devices and love it also on my Advantage.
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How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!

Pay by the month for use? No thanks I will stay with Igo that way I will not incur any data charges plus monthly usage.

I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7

Confucious said:
I think I'll stick to CoPilot 7
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7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.

wgary said:
How does it compare to Google Maps? (EDIT: Never mind, just looked at web site, and it looks awesome!)
What carrier do you have, what device do you claim to have? THansk!
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I run on many different providers ranging from T-Mobile, Telefonica and others. I have an HTC branded Athena (Advantage/X7500). Runs fine, as long as you create an account with them. I don't mind the premium since the maps are precise, up-to-date.

Review of TeleNav
OK, downloaded, put in my credit card (have until 8/11 to cancel) and... WOW!
Pros:
Very nice feature set. Best implementation of searches for points of interest that I have seen; makes GoogleMaps look downright clunky! One of my favorites was search for lowest gas prices. Can also search for restaurants by type, just by clicking. And the results seemed very accurate. Really, really cool. And the fact that it is live means that you don't have to wait a year for updates.
Haven't tested the voice recognition yet, but a neat idea.
Nice big buttons. Hi-res maps. Attractive.
It is surprisingly responsive, even when on EDGE. Although I haven't tried an interstate at 80mph yet. This is a keeper... NEARLY.
Cons:
My biggest concern is the routing seems a little "creative". I did routes to about 10 locations near and far, and I would say it is comparable to Mapquest 2001. In one case, it inexplicably routed me through a subdivision rather than the direct route. Then I remembered... Mapquest used to give me that same stupid detour! In another, a 8-9 mile trip routed out at 23 miles! Maybe it's just the area I live in, but I'm not sure I'd want to rely on it if I really needed to get somewhere in a hurry.
The only other gripe is that while the user interface is pretty, sometimes the menus are confusing. I would hit the Menu button and get a set of options that weren't at all what I expected.
Also, with MvRTrueVGA, there is a gap between the bottom of the app window and the bottom of the display where a little bit of the app below peeks through. OK, this is a hack, so I can't be too harsh about that. But wouldn't it be great...
Summary
Bottom line, this has the potential to be THE killer GPS app. It's not there yet, but I'm betting this will get better in the next while. I definitely plan to keep playing with it at least until August 11, in conjunction with GoogleMaps and/or iNav as a second opinion. I'd be interested about experiences others have had, particularly with routing.

WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.

Staroip said:
WGARY,
Have you tried traffic function with it? If traffic info is really up to date and integrated to routing. $10 may be ok for up-to-date map and real time traffic.
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Traffic really isn't an issue where I live. My only real beef is the routing. Otherwise, I would gladly give the $10/month... might anyway!

I've been wondering when someone would come out with something like this, but for me it's monthly fee is a deal breaker (or needing a data plan for that matter) because I almost never need/use GPS, so I don't want to pay $$ per month to use it once in a while...
Still I wish them luck and am glad to see them improving GPS.

lbarouf said:
7? I have 6, and Copilot Live is at 6 for pocket pc. Yes, it;s great, even with the small screw-ups on the VGA screen.
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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.

When is 7 going to be made available? Do you know yet?

Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike

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CoPilot Live 7 will blow you away - it is a vast improvement over 6.
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:-S You got me curious now....
I love the fact that when I'm on the road for a long period, people (family, friends, customers) can track me and get an ETA on when I arrive, since I put my routes in CopilotLive. Maps are rough on edges, POI are not as rich as many features. I love TeleNav and consider TeleNav Track for the bidirectional functionality. Will see when they realease for the Athena. It's the really the best navigation PDA around in my eyes. By that time, I hope Alk will release Copilot Live 7. Can you send a screenshot? PM me if needed, I wonder how you got your hands on it and when it's due for.
Cheers.

Hey how did you guys get telenav to find the gps on the x7500? It keeps telling me that it cannot find it and to seek a clear sky position.
Thx

i didn't not notice it requried data plan before installation.
now, how can i uninstall it? TeleSav is not shown in the 'remove program' list. :-(
BTW, i still love my tomtom application.

UK friendly GPS software.
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Beware of this product for the time being if you are UK based - it doesn't work, the program installs fine from the link but it is not possible to activate it. They have said six weeks (ish) before rolling out PDA compatability for Europe - for the time being its Blackberry devices only - Mike
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I have tried another one, webraska. I find not as nice as Telenav, but very close. excellent coverage in UK, Whales, and France. On my last trip I used it and found it just as useful as Telenav. Check it out... Webraska. For my friends on the other other side of the pond.

Anyone happen to know if this version works on other PPCs? Telenav hasn't updated their other Windows Mobile versions in years.

something is moving in Froyo development

Hope this will be of interest for someone.
I'm Italian, and as other italian owners of nexus one with the beta of Froyo, today we found some news
First, no we can just speak for writing sms and email, when keeping pressed the search button still italian speech recognition desn't work, same when searching the web.
Second, finally now we have the google navigator, we can input the destination just speaking and works fine, we can also search the web for something and launch the navigator.
This is of course a great signal, because in my opinion if Google will be able to offer all the services that are already available for the USA customers in the others countries, then Apple will have some problem selling his next product.
Why spent 600 and more euros for a phone, that is of course well assembled and with good materials, while with 499€ you can get a phone that has much more features? The free navigator is a real killer features that we really missed.
Ciao!

Same for Germany

That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.

Yup.
Canadians now have access to the full set of map features. Took long enough, but I am certainly grateful!

I'm actually surprised we (UK) got it before Canada.
Enjoy it though, it's great!

Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.

Clarkster said:
That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice

velenox said:
Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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incorrect.
This has nothing to do with Froyo. One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.

walie said:
incorrect.
One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Incorrect as well.
Your phone running android 1.6 did not get the updates. Google simply modified their servers to allow Navigation in your region/country.
It has nothing to with updating the Maps version on your phone. If you are in a non nav region, you can see this simply by loading a map with directions in the USA and NAV will be available.
But you are right about is not being Froyo specific.

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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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Yes, Google Maps is the latest, 4.2.0.. And I haven't checked any options at all in the options, I actually didn't see any when I quickly looked. Only reason I used it actually was I was using a geocaching program which popped it up for navigating to a geocache so I let it do its thing.
FYI, this isn't a case of "geocache in the middle of nowhere" in case you're familiar with it, navigation to them can be tricky or wind up in the wrong spot. Nothing like that, I was actually leaving one place and driving to another one a few miles away and it was telling me to drive way out of the way down a narrow road then left into a closed gated community.
Later I was driving downtown and it suggested I turn into a 1 way street...

mariolopezjr said:
Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?
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I would say use it, with common sense. Just like any navigational software.

How's the navigation compared to other competitions such as Nokia's Ovi Maps and Bing Maps?

perhaps I have not expressed my idea very well. I thought that before releasing Froyo, Google wanted to make all services already available in USA, also in other countries. This make sense, because in Europe we missed this features, voice search, navigation, etcetera...
So why release Froyo without offering all the goodies also in other countries?
If Froyo will be released tomorrow I'll be very happy to enjoy the new software, but honestly I'm happy for the navigator totally integrated with the phone.

Guys, please post in appropriate threads instead of starting a new one.
Google Maps Navigation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698539
Speculation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696736
Let's help keep the forum clean and organized, which benefits everyone.
Thanks!

Good Navigation App for 2.2?

Is there a good, working, navigation app out there for 2.2 yet?
JD

I would like to know this as well... Copilot are apparently working on an update, Sygic Mobile Maps 10 hasn't got back to me yet (currently runs but with soooooooo much lag)... and Navigon is reported to kind of work, but looses gps alot?
So far my best option is Google Navigator... it does a bloody good job... only problem is the phone gets very hot - 45c yesterday on a 40 minute drive but I think this is what happens with most apps!?

stewcp said:
I would like to know this as well... Copilot are apparently working on an update, Sygic Mobile Maps 10 hasn't got back to me yet (currently runs but with soooooooo much lag)... and Navigon is reported to kind of work, but looses gps alot?
So far my best option is Google Navigator... it does a bloody good job... only problem is the phone gets very hot - 45c yesterday on a 40 minute drive but I think this is what happens with most apps!?
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Ndrive is Froyo compatible. They have a 7 day trial version as well.

lukacs.attila said:
Ndrive is Froyo compatible. They have a 7 day trial version as well.
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Just downloaded... looks good so far... I will give this a spin, thanks

NDrive any good?

It's sad that Sygic has lag in 2.2, I wonder if it will be the same when the official release comes out...
I downloaded the Ndrive 7 day trial and its not bad, I like the horizon panning, although the UI is a little more cluttered than Sygic. I'm tempted to buy it at 43 Euro's ($63.28 AU) but the other half of my mind says wait until the official Froyo is release and maybe Sygic will be back to normal. There are rumours that google has OTA'd an update for Froyo to it's employee's :
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/13/rumor-froyo-moves-closer-to-release-frf72-update-supposedly-rolls-out/
Any news back from Sygic stewcp?

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Any news back from Sygic stewcp?
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Nothing!!! thats been 6 days now and no reply
Ndrive seems to work well... I just don't like the announcements... they seem to tell you your next turn around 1/2 mile away from the junction, which is stupid! Personally I'm not buying it and will keep holding out for copilot which I found to be perfect

Is there a comparison chart ? I'M NOT sure wich navigationsoftware is the best and I want the best
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I ended up buying Ndrive cause of urgency as it seemed the only option atm. I found this http://gpsreviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/second-and-lastsemifinal-ndrive-vs-sygic-drive/ but a copilot comparison is missing. One the same blog there are a few other comparisons, I'm not sure how relevant they are to android specifically froyo. I also found http://iphonetunes.net/index.php/full_article/comments/routes_compared_-_copilot_vs_navigon_vs_igo_vs_sygic_vs_tomtom/ which compares routing for a few apps, but is for the iphone. Functionality differs slightly between devices, and I would call either comparisons scientific studies, rather reasonable guides.
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Does google navigation not work then?

jammy1 said:
Does google navigation not work then?
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It does in some countries. I downloaded the latest version from US market (with MarketAccess), and I can add a Navigation shortcut, but I can't get spoken directions.

jammy1 said:
Does google navigation not work then?
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Yes it works and its really good... especially as its free!

not in many eu countries.

brut maps navigation works in Australia though last I checked, there was a slight lag. As well as that, I don't like the dark background of the navigation app.

Any news about IGO Android for hi res devices (like the Desire)?

does Google Navigation work in Belgium and mainland Europe? And does the phone really gets very hot using Google Nav when driving for example on a 3 hours journey?

jmonfu said:
does Google Navigation work in Belgium and mainland Europe? And does the phone really gets very hot using Google Nav when driving for example on a 3 hours journey?
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Works fine in The Netherlands.

thanks for the reply mate
does the device get overheated for long journeys?

for me Navigon works fine on 2.2

thanks for the info mate

Gps

Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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My biggest uses:
Find restaurants/activities near me to try new things (or in a new location)
Geo-caching - fun way to hike
Navigation - maps are dangerous and slow to use in a car, annoying to carry, and out of date depending on your source. Phones aren't the best for this but Android's Navigation is basically the cream of the crop.

Um if you dont know what good a gps is you really need to get into the tech. age.
I use it for EVERYTHING.
The real key is that I use google maps to look up anyone or anything around me. My friends all use latitude on weekend nights so we can find each other. If my gps doesn't show where I am how are friends supposed to find me?
I use it for pizza on a random night... or out on the boat when I'm going to a restaurant on the water.....or on a Friday afternoon when traffic is horrible and I want an alternate route.
There's plenty of reasons why the GPS NEEDS TO ACTUALLY WORK on this phone.

Well I'm not making an excuse for the gps problems I just have never needed gps is all
barely any of my friends have an android phone
Still stuck on blackberry and feature phones
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I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?

Just hoping for something I could use
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Google navigation is the best, ur in an unfamiliar city,got the munchies, u long press search button and say "navigate to subway" and voila! Ur guided to ur destination. And u hear oooh and aaah from ur buddies...
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<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
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Gosh. Where to start: Geocaching; geotagging photos ("the accident|family snapshot|scenery is right here"); tracking athletic runs (Cardio Trainer, etc); self-geocoding of addresses to avoid intellectual property issues with online geocoding sources; geocoding any physical object surveyed for a multitude of GIS applications and databases; "I am here" apps for emergency use; wardriving; geo-based social networking; geo-based shopping (Barcoder, Shop Savvy, etc.); calibrating speedometer and odometer; orienteering; mapping trails; tracking hikes and bike rides; of course, real-time vehicular navigation; recording and analyzing delivery routes ...
The list is really open-ended, and is expanding as democratized GIS, mapping, and GPS functionalities expand.
The integration of GPS with other technologies on the "phone" -- really a pocket computer that happens to make phone calls and is enhanced by cell-based GPS hybrid location and thus orders of magnitude more useful than a dedicated GPS receiver-- is what provides the power. I can be driving down the highway at lunch, speak "Taco Bell" into my phone, and it will find the closest choices with directions on a dynamic map.
This is why an accurate and functioning GPS is integral to Android smartphones. It enables things you didn't even conceive of, and services still being invented.

Geographically-based "to do" items, so the phone alerts you when you're getting off the freeway and reminds you to stop at the grocery store to buy toilet paper and cat food on the way home from work.
Location-aware ringer preferences. At the office, it turns down the ringer volume so half the floor doesn't hear the theme from The Great Giana Sisters (starting at 2:18) performed by Machinae Supremacy whenever somebody calls

kynetx said:
I use GPS to navigate around unfamiliar locations. I cannot memorize the entirety of the planet's geography so I must rely on tools to bridge this particular shortcoming and I cannot safely read a map while driving.
What the hell did you expect?
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+1
Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing

Bigjim1488 said:
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Also not having to have a gps in your car that you worry about someone seeing and stealing
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going

Well when visiting another state it isn't always possible to have intimate personal knowledge of places.
EDIT:Quote function of application isn't working.
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Lol....I always say the same thing to my wife...I took of off my phone. Personally I think the **** is a waste on a phone. I can find almost anything I need without it. Although I am not one who travels throughout the country or has to make business trips to unfamiliar locations. So I can see pros and cons
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i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Well then you need to expand your horizions Sometimes it's fun to go get lost and then of course have a nice gps to bring you home.

I use sprint nav when me and my friends get lost on a random night in the car or when we're driving with no where to go, I'll use sprint nav to get us to some random restaurant in another state or something.
I also use google maps to find trainstations nearby when I'm in some random part of the city. And when I went to my friends college 7 hours away, thebus had to make a random stop and I used it to figure out where I was.
Its also entertaining to ride a train and see a little blue arrow scrolling across the screen following your path with a Speedometer.
If you have intimateknowledge ofplaces bfore hand, then you have no reason for a gps considering you clearly don't care about the tecnology. This gps bug effects quite a few people adversely. I for one didn't realize how much I used gps until I upgraded from my hero
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<3me said:
i dont ever go anywhere without knowing where im going
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Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".

<3me said:
Why do people need gps on their phones? this is a serious question
I have never needed or used gps in my life
I like using maps better I guess
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ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....

BrianDigital said:
ok since you dont use them so i should not either...........I for one do like reading a map while driving and guessing when my upcoming turn is actually coming up......
I have a series question why do you care why I need/want a gps in my phone....
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thats a great series of questions sir the answer is i do not care why i was hoping there might be something im missing like a feature thats too awesome for words or at least really useful
and to the first part its not a hate thread chill out
also read the map before you go so you dont have to read while driving *hits staples button*
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Dang, you must have a pretty limited set of places you go...
Except for going between work, home and the grocery store, I almost *never* know where I'm going. That's called "exploring your surroundings" and "finding new things to do".
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actually its not that limited i worked for fedex so i generally know where i am going though i dont travel alot

Copilot. Worth it for offline navigation?

I bought a vzw tab with bad esn, (not interested in data package anyways)
I want to know if Copilot is a really good navigation app. I read the market reviews and more bad then good. Problems with google checkout#/buggy/crashes.
Is this my best choice or is there anything better?
Feel free to give your thoughts on other apps
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Copilot
Copilot is OK.
I've been using it for over a year now and have it on 3 devices. It works good for me and never had any real problems. I also have nDrive on one device and Google Maps/Navigation on all but use Copilot as my default nav app.
You can try it free for a limited period so my advice.... give it a try.

I had no problems with Copilot crashing, but the maps were really out of date. I gave up on it and went to Navigon when it attempted to route me through a fence across a railroad crossing that had been closed for years.

ResonanceZero said:
I had no problems with Copilot crashing, but the maps were really out of date. I gave up on it and went to Navigon when it attempted to route me through a fence across a railroad crossing that had been closed for years.
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+1...... I switched to navigon & think it's more updated
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