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[Q] advice what to do on new tab?

considering this is my 1st android, what should i do with the tab? step by step
lurking in this forum, i definitely want to root and be able upgrade firmware or to do anything in my tab
but what should i prepare? in the noob root for beginner, there's only explanation about rooting
can i save the original rom? what app to use? do i need to back up 1st? using what?
and can i upgrade the stock firmware to the jk1 without flashing it 1st to jj4? (since from what i read jj4 is full flash and jk1 is not, logically the stock firmware must be full flash also)
many thanks to those who can explain it in beginner's language
or maybe a couple of links would help
i already got the tutorial for the rooting process, so basically, what i need to do before rooting is what i need so i wont lose anything precious

I'd just start using it. Get some apps installed, see what you need/want/like to do with it, and if something you need/want/like to do is prevented by not having root access, then root it.
I'd say for the majority of Android users, there really is not much need to root, since Android lets you do so much right out of the box, unlike the competition that requires "jailbreaking" (God I hate that term) just to do simple **** like customizing.
Same goes with firmware. Unless you really enjoy the process of flashing and all that's associated with it, there's not always a clear need to do so. The only time I recommend somebody flash custom/leaked firmware for more than the fun-factor is if there's a problem in the current firmware that can only be fixed by flashing.
That said, this is XDA, which is all about custom ROMs and rooting and extracting more from a device than what the manufacturer shipped it with. Have at it.

jailbreaking lol, yeah, hate that
well something that bugs me is about the mobile browser view that some ppl actually advising rooting to be able to do that
hmm, what about what to do 1st if i actually want to root? any advice what to do and what app to use?

rooting on the Galaxy Tab is extremely simple:
1) Open the Market
2) Install and run 'z4root'
3) Hit the 'root' button' and wait
That's it.
Once you're done with that, one of the first things I'd suggest is to get AdFree installed and updated. It'll quite successfully block all those annoying ads.

i know about z4root, what i need to know is what i should do before rooting, like backing up the stock OS or data or app or anything like that, so i wouldnt regret having rooted my tab in case i flashed it with newest firmware like jk1

Rooting doesn't prevent flashing, or do any harm by itself, and when you flash, you wipe/reset the root.

oh, i see
so basically it just void my warranty and give me administator authorities like in windows?
thanks then

If you have to return your tab for any reason just reflash stock rom from whatever cell provider you got it from and the root is gone thus no breaking of the warranty

Yep, I rooted with z4root the other day. Was a piece of cake, although 1st attempt required a restart before it got going. 1st thing to install after that is Adblock.
Perfect.
Oh yeah, after that I installed titanium backup to get rid of the crappy gallery and replace it with the modded gallery 3rd form hi res zooming.
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What modded gallery are you talking about? I'd like to change the gallery because I hate the stock one!

Any OTA updates in the future cause issue to phone

Newbie here.
I just rooted my phone and install Skyraider 3.5.
I love it so far.
My question is, if Verizon sends out an OTA, will that cause any issue to my Incredible?
I have already made a backup for that reason and would I be able to restore it or I will have to start all over again?
Thanks

No.
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meazz1 said:
Newbie here.
I just rooted my phone and install Skyraider 3.5.
I love it so far.
My question is, if Verizon sends out an OTA, will that cause any issue to my Incredible?
I have already made a backup for that reason and would I be able to restore it or I will have to start all over again?
Thanks
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You won't even get a notification for an OTA if you're on any other ROM besides the stock Verizon one. Don't worry about it

You can block future ota if u want. Using root explorer go to /system/etc/security and change otacert.zip to otacert.zip.bak
Inc SR 3.5, 40GB, 1800mah
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good to know.
thnx

WELL, some ROMs will still get OTA updates, but not notifications about it. Also your on XDA, youll get the OTA from here before its even out.

this morning, I saw notification for update and got scared.
The updates were of ROM Manager and Wirefly Backup apps.
Everything is looking good.

I have a rooted DINC with the stock ROM. I rooted prior to Verizon pushing out the latest OTA update, which I believe just included a bunch of bloatware. I'd like to go ahead and receive that update anyway so I can have the latest stock ROM and to stop those pesky update messages from popping up. Currently, I guess since my phone is rooted, I cannot update. So here are the options I can think of:
1. Unroot, receive update, reroot (not my favorite option, would like to avoid!)
2. Get the latest stock ROM with update mentioned and flash my phone via ROM manager with that ROM (where can I get this ROM?)
3. Go ahead and try turning off the updates as mentioned in this thread to atleast get rid of the pesky update messages constantly popping up on my phone.
Any ideas?

blackstallion said:
I have a rooted DINC with the stock ROM. I rooted prior to Verizon pushing out the latest OTA update, which I believe just included a bunch of bloatware. I'd like to go ahead and receive that update anyway so I can have the latest stock ROM and to stop those pesky update messages from popping up. Currently, I guess since my phone is rooted, I cannot update. So here are the options I can think of:
1. Unroot, receive update, reroot (not my favorite option, would like to avoid!)
2. Get the latest stock ROM with update mentioned and flash my phone via ROM manager with that ROM (where can I get this ROM?)
3. Go ahead and try turning off the updates as mentioned in this thread to atleast get rid of the pesky update messages constantly popping up on my phone.
Any ideas?
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My suggestion? Since you're comfortable flashing a ROM, just flash Virtuous 3.2 and be done with it. It's the stock ROM + everything good about being able to root, in one complete package. Flash a nice kernel (ziggy, lou, incredikernel) while you're at it and enjoy some comparatively awesome battery life!

Thanks for the suggestion, that definitely looks like option 2 which was my preferred option.

[Q] Updating while in in-between rooted state

Allow me to explain my vague topic.
My son and I both have a droid pro, and are both running update 3.8.7
However, both of our phones were rooted before the update came and simply let it update.
After it got updated I noticed I was not rooted anymore. And z4root would not unroot my phone, or root it anymore.
Basically it was in sort of an in-between state, between rooted and unrooted.
The way I had to fix mine was by running the 2.2.6 (or whatever it was )sbf I had found on TBH, and from there going through the update progress.
Problem with that was that I had to set it back to factory settings.
So, my son's phone is still in that in-between state. Does anyone here know if it will pose a problem when this new gingerbread update hits his phone?
Will I be forced to do a factory reset with a previous sbf in order to be able to do it without it bricking?

I can't speak from personal experience, but others here have strongly suggested unrooting before update to prevent problems like what you described. As for the latest update, there are not really any reports yet on how it has gone for rooted users yet.

Before the last 3.8.7 updated, my phone was rooted with z4root and I had some unimportant apps frozen, nothing that is really crucial. I went ahead with the update (using the update.zip) which worked just fine. Yes, z4root is a bit confused of what is going on but I would not worry about it - I guess it is just logging events and thinks that because u havent unrooted it thru the program, it must still be rooted. The update removes the root anyways .. but I went ahead to unroot it with aroot again which worked like a charm on 3.8.7. At the moment, I am going to updating to Gingerbread also using an update.zip and I can give you a detailed report on how things went in a little bit ...

tnt118 said:
I can't speak from personal experience, but others here have strongly suggested unrooting before update to prevent problems like what you described. As for the latest update, there are not really any reports yet on how it has gone for rooted users yet.
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This.
You might be able to go through just fine without flashing the SBF, but it's always a good idea to unroot/unfreeze apps and be stock for an update. Always.

Not always.
After the update from 2.26 to 2.63 (cant remember?) I had rooted my phone with z4root and froze some unimportant bloat ware, I didnt touch any programs that I deemed important for the system. I then proceeded to update to 3.8.7 without unrooting or unfreezing apps! It worked fine. After this, the system was unrooted again, I rooted again with aRoot without any problems.Now, I upgraded to Gingerbread, also coming from being rooted. The individual updates remove the rooting and you are back at point zero and, as long as you dont have any important system utilities frozen, it will work absolutely fine.

vivid22 said:
Before the last 3.8.7 updated, my phone was rooted with z4root and I had some unimportant apps frozen, nothing that is really crucial. I went ahead with the update (using the update.zip) which worked just fine. Yes, z4root is a bit confused of what is going on but I would not worry about it - I guess it is just logging events and thinks that because u havent unrooted it thru the program, it must still be rooted. The update removes the root anyways .. but I went ahead to unroot it with aroot again which worked like a charm on 3.8.7. At the moment, I am going to updating to Gingerbread also using an update.zip and I can give you a detailed report on how things went in a little bit ...
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Interesting. Well if the root has been removed then there is no problem.
My son has a lot less problems then I do so I never had to freeze any apps. Meaning I basically never had to root his phone to begin with. So I may just get away with doing nothing then.
I mean I had rooted his phone on the previous system, on 3.8.7 it never worked with z4root so I'm guessing it's not rooted at this point.
I'll try to double check
As for my own phone, I will need to keep an eye on how to after the new update. I have serious battery problems that I blame on useless background processes.
I'll just tell him to go ahead and run it, if it ever comes to us that is.
Thanks guys

That is true, but z4root is just mistaken in a sense that it is confused and thinks its still rooted while its actually not ... Unless you click unroot in z4root, it will always assume its still rooted. z4root will not work in the 3.8.7 version as its not compatible. You need to use aRoot for that. And I can confirm that all updates work, even when the phone is left rooted before the update! Every update automatically unroots (locks) the phone again anyways.

Ok.
I just found the update on droidforums and went ahead and installed on my phone because I couldn't wait for Verizon
Later on ill do my sons phone as well. Im sure it will go well so ill report back to help ease the mind of others.

yeah so it wasnt a problem. I ran the same update.zip file i found and my sons phone is running nicely.

vivid22 said:
Not always.
After the update from 2.26 to 2.63 (cant remember?) I had rooted my phone with z4root and froze some unimportant bloat ware, I didnt touch any programs that I deemed important for the system. I then proceeded to update to 3.8.7 without unrooting or unfreezing apps! It worked fine. After this, the system was unrooted again, I rooted again with aRoot without any problems.Now, I upgraded to Gingerbread, also coming from being rooted. The individual updates remove the rooting and you are back at point zero and, as long as you dont have any important system utilities frozen, it will work absolutely fine.
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It may work just fine, and it may even work fine most of the time, but it's still a good idea to unroot before installing a stock update. A lot of issues can potentially come up. Unrooting doesn't hurt anything since the updates break root anyway. It's just a good precaution. A lot of people had major issues with the last 2.2 update when they installed it without unrooting first.
It looks like all is well on updating with the Gingerbread release. But better than safe than sorry I say.

Kill firmware update notice?

I read that a rooted phone would not receive the firmware update notice. I rooted my phone g-free method s-off eng boot last weekend. This morning I got the notice to update my firmware. The only thing I can do is tell it to remind me to update in one day. Is there a way to get rid of this? I am happy with my stock phone, I just need to be able to back up my game saves stored on internal memory. From what I understand, there is no way to temp or perm root if I update. And there is no final (rooted) version of this update available to flash.

I don't know about rooting the new version yet, but I know there's at least one rooted version in the development section... I'm not sure how stable it is but I think it's good. As far as game progress, I always use Mybackup Root to backup texts, call logs, bookmarks, shazam data, and general app/game data and then restore on whatever new ROM or build I switch to.
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One thing I know for certain that would remove the firmware notifications is flashing a new rom. I'm not exactly sure how far you have to take the whole customization process before Tmobile stops trying to update your phone though. It's probably something in the system files that keeps searching for OTA updates or something.
Best thing I can suggest to you if you want to keep the stock rom but get rid of the firmware notifications is to find a rooted version of your current rom and flash it. There's a few of them here on XDA that are just the stock Froyo Rom with root access and some bloatware removed. If you flash one of those the updates will stop coming in and you can keep everything stock.
Only solution I can think of that doesn't involve haphazardly removing system files until you find the one that controls OTA updates lol

updating from rooted 2.2

Apologies if this is a noob question. I didn't see any obvious answer to this, and I'm guessing I"m not the only one to question this.
I have a rooted stock 2.2, rooted with Unrevoked3. Now that there's a root exploit for GB, I'm trying to make sense of what I need to do to get the OTA installed.
Reading through the Unrevoked site, it looks like I need to find the appropriate .img first to restore me back to original? And Unrevoked's site directed me back here, but i didn't see where to find the correct file.
Second, I assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, that I simply copy the correct .img file back to my phone (which directory?) and boot up into recover to restore? At that point, i'll be able to get and update with the OTA?
-Brian

Why not flash a stock rooted GB ROM?
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That would certainly be the easiest solution, but i'd rather go OTA for a couple reasons:
1) while absolutely nothing against the great work the devs have done, I've gone back and forth on this and really end up wanting to keep mine stock (with a lot of sprint crap-ware frozen)
2) and a more direct reason for my question in the first place, this isn't just for my own phone, which i don't mind "hacking" with as much, but also for a coworker's phone I've rooted, the wife's (don't want to mess too much with hers) and even the in-law's two phones.
3) least required reason, I have very little actual use for Root, especially on the other listed phones, but the primary requirements on why i've rooted theirs is for wireless tethering and freezing of crapware.

1) while absolutely nothing against the great work the devs have done, I've gone back and forth on this and really end up wanting to keep mine stock (with a lot of sprint crap-ware frozen)
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Umm, the stock rooted roms are exactly that: stock, but rooted. Everything is still there.
2) and a more direct reason for my question in the first place, this isn't just for my own phone, which i don't mind "hacking" with as much, but also for a coworker's phone I've rooted, the wife's (don't want to mess too much with hers) and even the in-law's two phones.
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Again, flashing a stock rooted rom is NO different than taking the ota, except you will stay rooted and will not have to re-root.
3) least required reason, I have very little actual use for Root, especially on the other listed phones, but the primary requirements on why i've rooted theirs is for wireless tethering and freezing of crapware.
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OK, well if you don't need root, then take the ota and you will be unrooted.

Ok, fair points. So which rom(s) would be the original stock roms with nothing but Root added?

They would be in the threads that say Stock ROMs