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Another dissapointed user - another phone

here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?

Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.

iead1 said:
Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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+1! I can understand the frustration, but don't get why people are selling their phones right now, that's just cutting your nose off to spite your face imo.

Well I got rid of mine because I've had enough of SE dragging their heels, I'm running 2.2 on my HD2 and its the best move I have made tbh.
I know SE already have my money, but I didn't see the point of sticking with something I wasn't happy with.
I know its only a phone at the end of the day and all the normal stuff worked, its just SE's policy on providing support, Ohh its ok the users who gave us there hard earned cash can wait for their update as we already have their cash.
I hope the devs can do somethin with the X10 as it is a cracking piece of kit and not worthy of running 1.6.
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Hows that desire HD rom

Here's a thought:
Instead of venting on this board where X10 users and hobbyist developers gather to exchange ideas why not send a wellformulated email to something like SE sales or SE's customer services? Most of us here have no connection to SE other than owning one of their phones. Some of us don't even have a choice and couldn't switch if we wanted to.
Coming here to vent won't really do anything other than piss people off which is kind of counter-productive. Even if some here agree with your views there's not a lot we can do other than trying to do the best we can with what we got.
If you hope to accomplish something or even get SE to recognize your problems then the best way is really to write a proper message to SE explaining your stance. It's a long-shot but there's always a chance that they will listen to the critique and act on it.
*****ing to us X10 users helps no one, most of us don't even care and it just takes up your time.

Just create a thread for all these complainers about leaving their phone yada yada yada. Simple.

I agree, if you don't like then leave and join other forum for the phone you want.
Most phone manufacturers are concern about making money and that is business so no choice.
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.

chongbh said:
Leave us alone here as there are some of us who still like our X10 including myself.
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Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.

ddewbofh said:
Hear, hear. Even though we're stuck on 1.6 for now I still love the display and design of the hardware.
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Yes, we like and love the phone not because it has updated OS but it is the phone hardware and specs which makes us attracted to it.
Even if the phone is updated with the latest OS like 2.2 or even 3.0 but the outlook of the phone don't look nice or the specs of the hardware is not advance, holding the phone don't makes us feel good as well.
It is the same like cars, even though your car is powerful but the design of the car do not look good, less people will buy it.
Just my sharing.

kubbek said:
here appeard many posts like this and sadly I have to say that I want a different android phone, defenetly not SE. They are losing their customers.
What other phone would you recommend? I was thinking about milestone xt720. Maybe there is something more interesting?
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xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones

I'm seling my X10 to go for a Captivate.
I know the camera is worse, but at least the bootloader is already hacked so CM6 is the way to go.

tuxStyle said:
xt720 is nice but is older than X10.
Slowe CPU too.
And Motorola is locking their devices too.
If you want to switch, at least go to a HTC where you can play with them as much as you want.
The bad part, HTCs are ugly phones
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Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.

iead1 said:
Instead of spamming these boards, why don't you go to a board where you can get answers unobjectively. Also, SE already got your money, they don't care if you sell the phone.
These threads are useless and must be deleted at all costs.
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Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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You're right. This board is for discussion. However, do they require a new thread each time?
Hmmm.. you guys obviously wouldn't care much assuming you don't donate to the board to help maintain it. I bet if you did you'd care much more about people who posts useless threads like this.

jayman1986 said:
Delete these threads? Why? Coz you love your x10?
Well good for you, but others don't and this is a forum for discussion and people should be allowed to give negative opinion on a product that has not been delivered as promised.
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I'm pretty sure all the features that were promised on the the box are working fine. Don't get confused with the ramblings you hear on the internet, they are the wants of users, not the promises of se.
I want features such as froyo, 16 million colours, flash etc. as much as anyone, but such things were never promised. And lack of 16 million colours isn't aproblem, you would be hard pressed to see the difference, unless you have a fascination with looking at colour gradients. And no multitouch, even though it has been denied as a feature countless times is a blessing. If there was multitouch you can say goodbye to using the phone one handed. Multitouch gestures are stupid, pointless and annoying.
So if you want to sell your phone, then godspeed to you. But please don't complain to other users that enjoy theirphone, just because you didn't research properly what this phone is capable of.
No offence intended, this is an open discussion and that is my point of view, if you can show evidence of broken promises then be my guest. Delay in 2.1 update doesn't count, release dates for software slip, its a fact of life. Deal with it.
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ddewbofh said:
Calling them ugly is a bit harsh imo, non-descript is a better name for it. They're basic and they don't stand out. They're sort of like the VW Passat, the design is perfectly fine but also very forgettable at the same time.
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IMO a dogs backside could design something more attractive than a desire lol
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Why do some people think others care if they got a new phone LOL. I bet the honeymoon will last no more then a few weeks with their new device, then they will complain about some issues they have with it.
Sony has made some stupid moves IMO but whatever company you go to the situation will be the same. At most you will get one major update and some bugfix updates.

I blew off alot of steam about how the 2.1 update wouldn't even include 16m colors...I then got really pissed about SE delaying our 2.1 update til October. I for sure said some things out of anger....but one thing I remember clearly is that I ditched a Nexus One running 2.2 (froyo) for my X10. I loved my Nexus One, it was truly amazing....but something about the X10 pulled me to it. I find with my X10 I love it more and enjoy it much more than the Nexus One. That said, I know SE pissed alot of people off..including myself....but there's no need to ditch a phone that you know you loved because SE delayed the update. Honestly look at it this way, is your phone going to die? will it not live for another month until 2.1? will you die? can you just give your phone the chance of running 2.1 before you are so quick to judge....maybe just MAYBE!! SE are being secretive about something in the update...maybe not. But I have a damn good feeling when 2.1 drops to the X10 some people will be coming back to it....because SE will get there **** together and really deliver on this. If im wrong, then you can flame me. People have just a little more patience for the update.
just my two cents

NightSidew1nd3r;
So if you want to sell your phone said:
Well firstly he's not specifically aiming it at people who are happy with their phone, cox there are many who are unhappy.
And research properly before you buy?- like I replied to another SE fanboy on another thread, I bought my phone in March and SE did not make anything clear when phone releasing the phone- everything was rumours. And at that time all mobile phone sources were hinting an update to 2.1 before summer.
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Gingerbread is what we all should want but.......

Being a previous samsung owner (behold 2) I don't think that the first galaxy s line will get it. Why??? Cause samsung is already in the process of making a second galaxy s line. Just like in the armed forces how they send out the army first(vibrant, epic, captivate) then the navy, then air forces. Well that's what samsung is doing. If you think I'm just spitting out bull check out the new galaxy s phone sprint is about to get. It is keyboard less and is coming out months after the epic 4g. Why would they need 2 galaxy s phones when they already have 1 with a keyboard and an evo???
I truly think we are gonna get froyo in october but nothing after that. I'm not mad though I'm just gonna get a g2 but this is crazy how phone companies operate these days all due to android fragmentation.
Link to new galaxy s for sprint
http://phandroid.com/2010/09/30/samsung-transform-kyocera-zio-headed-to-sprint/
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Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02

tjhart85 said:
Meh, the dev scene should be fully up and running by that point. Personally at that point I couldn't care less if Samsung doesn't update.
They've already proven that they don't give a **** about their appearance in the world (really, you ship a broken phone to four carriers in the US and to ~30 other countries around the world and expect anyone to take you seriously), so let them continue to shoot themselves in the foot.
Just my $.02
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yeah, I've pretty much bought my last Samsung product. With ViewSonic entering the TV market and LG having as good a picture quality as Samsung already I don't need them for that, and as for phones/tablets? Well fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.

Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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creglenn said:
Im calling tmobile and emailing executive support to get a refund or a replacement with a g2
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Good for you. And again, like everyone else, thank you so much for sharing your personal shopping preferences with us. Without well thought out, logical, factual, and rational statements such as yours the world would be a much worse place to live in. I am sure I speak for everyone here in thanking you for letting us know where you stand and that your presence will truly be missed in the Vibrant community.
We hope you will enjoy your new bug-free,super awesome, no problems at all G2 that is sure to have Honeycomb as soon as it is available as well.

Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.

If you care so much about getting the newest OS on your phone, go get a N1 or N2 I am sure you will get the newest OS as soon as it came out.

Ibtl
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And a HUGE boo hoo back at the 4 crybabies above this post.
Samsung is building a reputation of not supporting their products after the sale.
This is something the community needs to be kept aware of so other people don't make the mistake of buying their hardware with its good looking specs.
I'm fed up with companies releasing product (or more like the product escaping) before it is finished as well.
And as a final comment to the 4 whiners above, if you don't like this thread no one forced you to read it. Do something productive and contribute to the community, even if it is just a warning to future buyers not to buy from a given company instead of trying to tear down what someone else is doing.

I'm starting to think it was a mistake even registering an account on this forum, Lol.
There are way too many fanbois.

DKYang said:
Boohoo. Stop flooding this forum with stupid topics when there is already plenty others.
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Nothing wrong with wanting Gingerbread, and expecting it, if the hardware supports it.
Samsung should manage its product support better. Way better.

Is that a Droid?

Interesting observation regarding verizon marketing. People always ask me if my phone is a DROID when they see it. I end up saying no and tell them its an evo with android os. they look at me thats what i said a droid.
Did verizon marketing cause all android phones to be Droids? I have a suspicion that droid rolls of the tongue alot easier than android and verizon making it famous with their commercials.
What do you think?

I get that a lot too, Verizon has done a ton of marketing with the Droid name and that's more recognizable to a lot of people than the Android name itself. I just tell people it's similar but don't go too much into it most of the time.

I don't know about you but when people say that to me it bugs the hell out of me.
IT'S NOT DROID IT'S ANDROID!!!
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Yeah that is mildly annoying and something that seems more like a combination of marketing and lack of Android knowledge.
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grungbuk said:
I don't know about you but when people say that to me it bugs the hell out of me.
IT'S NOT DROID IT'S ANDROID!!!
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Im the same way. But I dont try to explain cuz it doesn't make a difference in the end.

It's easier to say "yes".

uniquenameevo said:
It's easier to say "yes".
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That's what i do

grungbuk said:
I don't know about you but when people say that to me it bugs the hell out of me.
IT'S NOT DROID IT'S ANDROID!!!
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+1 ..... I explain it. Every time. SO annoying.

Actually, it DOES make a difference.
One thing all of us knowledgeable Android users have in common is that we want Apple to die. While that is now happening slowly, it could happen much more quickly if we answer the "is that a Droid" question accurately.
It is important that we explain to folks that is a variation of the Droid but different based on X, Y, Z. If you don't help them understand, they will just be confused and the Apple folks love that since they cater to the idiots. The Apple brand got good at making people feel "smart" for their purchase decision even though they have a product that is inferior. There is less to be confused about with an Apple product because quite frankly, they do your thinking for you... or at least for the people who don't want to think.
So it is our job to fix that... and to explain to the smartphone world how wonderful Android is and how great it is that they have options.

edufur said:
Actually, it DOES make a difference.
One thing all of us knowledgeable Android users have in common is that we want Apple to die. While that is now happening slowly, it could happen much more quickly if we answer the "is that a Droid" question accurately
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LIES. haha i love apple, just wouldn't buy an Iphone
I very much enjoy my macbook pro.

I concur with edufur. I always explain the difference and add that it allows people purchase the phone that is right for them with the features they want. You want a big screen? Go Evo or Droid X. You want a physical keyboard? Go Epic, Evo Shift or Droid. Etc.
I don't really get annoyed by it. I'd rather save my anger for road rage or something "constructive" like that.

rugedraw said:
I concur with edufur. I always explain the difference and add that it allows people purchase the phone that is right for them with the features they want. You want a big screen? Go Evo or Droid X. You want a physical keyboard? Go Epic, Evo Shift or Droid. Etc.
I don't really get annoyed by it. I'd rather save my anger for road rage or something "constructive" like that.
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Oh man... where do you live? I am staying far far away from you :O
I always seem to get stuck in front of those kind of people haha.
Exactly. Fan boys are annoying... (I mean all fan boys, doesn't matter if they are apple, android, or any other company)

I do a 3 second size-up. If they look remotely technologically capable, I tell them it's an HTC EVO 4G running Android OS.
If they look like my parents, I tell them it's a Droid EVO... they seem to 'get' that.

If someone was interested enough in Android they'd probably know the difference ... those that don't probably don't care if it's a droid or a 'roid.
I wouldn't waste my breath unless they clearly showed interest. Hell, this cleaning lady just said to me the other day that AT&T is now going to start carrying Android phones. I just said, "Cool, 'bout time!" It was clearly a "small talk" moment as are the usual "Droid bombs" so I wouldn't bother getting into specifics. Or wasting my breath on something they probably won't even remember.

Just say yes its a Droid and let them be........rather say its a Droid than a iPhone

I thought I was the only person this happens to.
I've explained it so many times my short answer is "Same operating system"

"Droid" is a brand name, much like "Kleenex", "Q-tip", and "Jell-o".
However, you don't usually hear people calling generic/store-brand versions as "facial tissues", "cotton swabs", and "gelatin desert" in regular/informal conversation.
So Droid is becoming to Android what Kleenex is to facial tissues; a brand that everyone associates with the entire genre of products. What's needed is proper re-education on the matter, and that can best be done with competition of a similar product.
For example: Both Windows and Mac computers are PC's (personal computers), but society has learned to distinguish, and that "PC" means (usually) Windows. Other examples: Laptops and netbooks (both are portable computers that can sit on your lap, but netbooks are now not considered "mini laptops", but their own product). Cable and DSL Internet ("Broadband" now typically only applies to Cable, even though DSL is technically "broadband" Internet service as well).

I usually just say yeah its a droid. I have noticed that a lot of people think the droid phones are the original and any other android device is a knock off of the droid. That is what really gets to me.

skylar.sutton said:
I do a 3 second size-up. If they look remotely technologically capable, I tell them it's an HTC EVO 4G running Android OS.
If they look like my parents, I tell them it's a Droid EVO... they seem to 'get' that.
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I'm gonna start gauging people like this...this just tickled me so much

grungbuk said:
I don't know about you but when people say that to me it bugs the hell out of me.
IT'S NOT DROID IT'S ANDROID!!!
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Technically they are both Android. One is a Droid and the other is an Evo.
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This was just posted on twitter by Samsung usa

SamsungMobileUS: Seeking To Defuse Tensions, Samsung Opens Dialogue With XDA-Dev Forum - http://ow.ly/3X2cL @SamsungJohn
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I'd say the rants of people saying they're never going Samsung again seems to be paying off?

XtaC318 said:
I'd say the rants of people saying they're never going Samsung again seems to be paying off?
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No pay day yet. This is Sammy's way of confessing they have been trying to do it their way instead of please the customer for too long.
It still remains to be seen what they actually DO about it.
We all know what pathway good intentions paved =]

The bottom line is until sammy gets the carriers in line, and froyo gets released before its 1st birthday! People will rant with good reason. Btw gingerbread has been out for like 3 months! We have a top of the line device running an os from 2009. Honestly I love the hardware but I can't handle this bad os support.
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Whoever even buys another Samsung flagship phone with the belief that they learned their lesson deserves what they are going to get and shouldn't complain anymore. If you haven't realized what their intent is, which is maximum profit with the least effort, while actually making it seem like they kind of care with PR rep's that promise things that they cant' actually commit to. INB4C
My friend asked me what phone he should buy, and looked at the Galaxy S2 and the Motorola Atrix. It was a no brainer which phone was the winner. Go Atrix! Pre-ordered and waiting! He was waiting for a nice dual core phone, but after the mess he has heard from me with Samsung, he said he definitely doesn't want to go through the same thing. To be honest, this crap is making me sick to my stomach just talking about anymore, cause we've all been crapped on, and it doesn't feel nice.

I'm not surprised in the least that Samsung would think that this meaningless gesture would diffuse this issue, but I'm honestly SHOCKED that "Xda leaders" would put any thought into this. I suspect they're making money off this, somehow.
This site has lost its way badly.

At least it's a start and shows Samsung at least recognizes they've pissed off some people. It's better than what they've been doing which has been a whole lot of nothing.

re: XDA profiting... maybe request some transparency on the issue??? Besides, I thought they were in bed with HTC, like Sprint...? (hehehehe )

Y'all getting played ... Pay attention.
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enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?

I've never owned a Samsung phone before the Epic. It is my first and MY LAST. HEAR ME SAMSUNG? YOU BLEW IT.

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enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?
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Careful....there's many a self-demonstrated poster in these forums that will actually, seriously, believe that too. *g*

Here's to hoping open exchange of dialogue will soon become exchange of sources and binaries!

Honestly, this was my first Samsung phone in about ten years is so far, it's my last.
It's not the lack of Froyo, this is just a simple annoyance. What killed it is GPS that works like crap, barely functioning accelorometer, retarded hardcoded GPS accuracy refusal to do anything about these two issues. I have a bad feeling that the last bug isn't a bug at all, but an attempt to cover up poorly functioning GPS on this phone. If I was Colbert, I'd wag my finger at them.
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and.... how does this help me???

DiGi760 said:
Do they sell the car docks now? I've seen them on Sammy's web page since launch, but I have been unable to find a single place where it is for sale.
And you do know that the Epic isn't "a year fukin old" yet, don't you? It was announced in June and launched at the end of August which makes it only 6 months old for consumers.
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2.2 - year old by now.

ungovernable1977 said:
enlighten us on how were being played... I love a good conspiracy theory...
I HEARD... Samsung sent John to distract attention from the fact that they are currently in hostage negotiations with Sprint, the suitcase full of cash is in transit, and Noobnl has the code to unlock it, but he refuses to share it with anyone because he only cares about glory, so he is meeting John at sxsw to listen to crappy emo music and make the handoff. And THEN Sprint will begin work on adding SprintID and a new, improved, constant Nascar streaming app, which can in no way be turned off. Oh, and HTC assassins are waiting there to shoot Noob so that they can still claim that the EVO is the flagship phone, and artificially make supply of the phone backordered to give the impression to the common consumer that it is not a giant POS. Did I miss anything?
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I will buy that for a dollar....LOL
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Any Twitter/FB spammers reading??? Can you confirm this yourself... another conspiracy... oh my!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=955776
would be funny if it were true... and then SJ does a little dance 'hey! look over here!' hehehe...
im just finding this all funny at this point...

Hi I'm samsungjohn, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm just using this pr to gain rank within the amsung corporation. I figured if I was able to convince everyone to stick with samsung and to keep buying samsung, that I will be soon promoted. In reality I am jus doing this for a job. I don't even own a samsung phone. I own an LG, but thank you for listening to me and allowing me to pull your strings....Public Actions speak louder than words....oh and by the way. The Truth Is What You Make It, and Who You get To Believe In It.
No worries I'm just poking fun at this all. If people have gotten offended by it then the truth lies within the offended. Lol
now if Samsung were to really/officially be changing fo the people they would skip over froyo and be the first to update every galaxy s series to gingerbread. Or at least get froyo out and gingerbread soon after.
And powers at be, feel free to delete or modify this if you like. I've already gotten past the point of anger, and this whole samsung update bs is just a joke to me now. Samsung makes great dumb phones but a smart phone is just isn't worth it.

Too late, too slow, too little.
Samsung unfortunately is still working on the feature-phone timelines. What they (and most other android phone makers, with the possible exception of HTC) seem to not quite understand is that these smartphones are true computers now, and need to be treated as such. The OS is an integral part of phone, perhaps the most important part, and people will not tolerate a company that refuses to update an OS that both has critical bugs (and yes, the GPS bug is a CRITICAL bug), and appears incapable of utilizing the hardware it's surrounded by. It's like Microsoft refusing to repair a Windows bug that kept all printers only printing in black and white. It's almost worse that the hardware is so good, and is being crippled by a poorly customized OS (like tantalus, nearby but unreachable relief is far worse than no possibility of relief at all).
It's going to take a really big step to mollify those that have been burned by this generation of samsung's smartphones. Samsung, if your listening. You've pissed off many of your most important phone buyers. These are the people who less tech-savvy people ask for advice on phones, and for every 1 XDA member offended by your apparent lack of desire to properly support your equipment, you probably lose at least 10 referral sales to companies like HTC.
My recommendation, at least open the source code for the devs to look at, and if you're having software quality problems (and that's the reason you can't get froyo out the door), invite some of the best devs to take a look at the proprietary modules that you're having problems with. Work with the community and you may maintain some degree of support for your next generation of phones. But keep trying to astroturf them, or worse yet, pull a Behold 2 on them, and watch out as your current market lead could easily change next generation.

Getting sick of all these comparisons

I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.

All my friends and family who have played with my phone since friday want it and two of my friends were samsung fanboys and the others were deciding out of One, S4, XZ and have all chosen the one.

Livebyte said:
Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.
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No Samsung succeeded through great marketing.
I will always show people my phone and let them play if they wish but honestly fanboyism will not lead to sales. HTC marketing team will lead to sales. A simple stunning TV advert would do.....
But regardless I think you missed the point of my post!
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You are buying a great phone regardless which one you pick.. HTC put their all into the "One" giving it the best design smartphone (my opinion)
The Galaxy S4 is a great phone too
it all comes down to whatever the user want.. you got fanboys-girls and then you got tech heads like me who buy both of the hottest phones out..
i do think Samsung has a better marketing plan than HTC does.. and you know how the consumer market work..
HTC spends more time and money in other countries on ads and TV commercial spots than in the US (from what i see)
HTC had a mini commercial movie spot in Japan for HTC Butterfly that was pretty neat and showed everything the phone could do.
HTC needs to do that everywhere like Samsung does

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I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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I completely agree with you. I'm okay with moderate comparisons but this is beyond madness ( on both the One forum and S IV forum). I think the mods should aggressively close all the dupe threads and keep one open on each forum.

I came from s2, s3. i just was waiting for the s4 announce to make my choice..i am tired of the same...my htc one will arrive soon.
i am sure that htc one will be the best 2013 smartphone
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The War Horse said:
I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4.
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While I totally agree with what you're saying, a thread like this won't help matters to be honest. I'm not saying it'll make the situation worse, but it won't help either.
It's not as if comparing devices is a new concept among the XDA folk. It's always happened. Why? Well it's simple. People like to show off that their device/upcoming device is better than other flagship devices on the market/to be announced. Whether we like it or not, the S4 IS a flagship device and will undoubtedly sell more than the One so a lot of people from this forum are going to want to take any victory over Samsung that they can.
Even if the only aspect which the One "won" on was affordability, we'd still see similar threads along the lines of - "S4 is rubbish because it costs too much and the One is cheaper".
Want proof of this?
Wait for the next popular phone to get released and you'll see that exactly the same will happen, yet again.
As I said at the top of this post though, I do totally agree with you and think that no-one should be bothered what device someone else gets because it's clearly none of their business.
The need to compare things to other items seems to be becoming an ever present problem among human nature, unfortunately.
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I've owned every iPhone since day one. Diehard Apple fanboy. This is nothing new to me. Every time a new phone was released all the fanboys dubbed it the iPhone killer. Ugh - just learn to ignore it and make sensible, well-rounded decisions based on your own experiences and you'll be a much happier person. Lol - that's why, even after all these years, I'm here on XDA, reading every thread and dying to pick up the One! Can't wait!

Although the OP speaks out of my heart, I have to close this as off-topic. As you see when you read the thread. it again started to become a battleground of fanboys.