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I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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Trig0r said:
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.
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I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.
Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along
I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
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I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.
I just upgraded to an Inspire. The main reason I did is because of HTC Sense. I love the look and feel of it and don't like using any other kind of UI on my phone. However, I also love having the best there is...so here is my question.
Is it possible to get HTC Sense onto the Atrix with just a root? Or will a cracked bootloader the key to doing that?
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A locked bootloader would likely not prove to be a problem, but the porting of the framework would almost certainly be very difficult since Sense cannot function without the full custom HTC framework.
Okay. Well I guess I should look and see if there any Sense ports to Motorola devices then. Would the port have to be device-specific? Or would a port to an older Motorola device work just as well?
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to get sense running on a non-HTC device, you would need a custom kernel (which a locked bootloader won't allow) with a custom bootclasspath in init.rc. you would also need to bring over all the HTC Sense framework with modified binaries to support your platform (android hardware legacy binaries) and modify egl.cfg to support the GPU in the phone. after that, there's of course other hardware lib's that would need to be modified to get GPS and bluetooth working (usually through more hex hacking) and, last but not least, decompiling and recompiling the sense framework to interface properly with the RIL.
so basically you'd have to overcome a (potentially/likely) locked bootloader and troubleshoot constantly to figure out what's wrong with each piece of hardware in the device (feasible, but long and frustrating). there are several devices out there that aren't intended to run Sense that do (the OG droid/milestone being one), and the process is long and complicated. jamezelle (who ported Sense to the droid/milestone) helped us ATTEMPT to port it to the SGS devices (myself and rafyvitto on the Captivate) and it ended up being more than either of us could handle and died.
That sounds like a complete pain in the a** lol. At least you gave it a shot. That's a lot more than I would be capable of doing. But oh well then...I guess I will have to wait for an HTC device with a dual or quad core chip and in the mean time, I can have a blast with my Inspire. Thank you both for your quick feedback.
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what exactly do you want from sense? you can mimic a bunch of it with other launchers and widgets. Launcher pro has a bunch of sense like widgets, and Beautiful Widgets will give you a couple more. You won't have the sense launcher bar, or lock screen, but to be honest i think those are crap.
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what exactly do you want from sense? you can mimic a bunch of it with other launchers and widgets. Launcher pro has a bunch of sense like widgets, and Beautiful Widgets will give you a couple more. You won't have the sense launcher bar, or lock screen, but to be honest i think those are crap.
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Exactly, With Launcher Pro Plus you basically get all the sense widgets, and there is a theme to make it look exactly the same as SenseUI.
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Exactly, With Launcher Pro Plus you basically get all the sense widgets, and there is a theme to make it look exactly the same as SenseUI.
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What is the theme called? interesting
OK but how can we get rid of MotoBlur completely and put launcher pro on the basic android? Does it need root or unlocked bootloader?
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OK but how can we get rid of MotoBlur completely and put launcher pro on the basic android? Does it need root or unlocked bootloader?
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LauncherPro is just an alternative launcher, just install it from the marketplace >_>
motoblur isn't JUST a launcher, it's a whole framework. just like sense is a framework and launcher. removing motoblur is far more involved than changing launchers...
Another thing to consider is the legality of doing so.
Android is open source, but Sense is proprietary. In principles HTC can take legal action even for those devs who are making their custom roms loaded with Sense. But so far HTC has not done so, and I kind of feel that HTC is relatively open (relative to other manufacturers, like Motorola) to devs customizing their phones.
But as you said, Sense is the reason why you are getting the Inspire 4G, it is a valuable piece of proprietary to HTC. Once people go crazy and start porting Sense to every other major competing devices, it's only a matter of time before HTC starts issuing cease and desist letters to all the devs.
I would like to see this happen i would donate but only if it wasnt ridiculously buggy...would have to be somewhat stable
Yea. TBH at this point I am ACTUALLY considering Telus Desire HD instead of Atrix on bell simply because of sense.
Its not only the great looking widgets... but the various built in applications and the design of interface that looks much more nicer imo.
Sense brings ALOT of usability to android, and Personally.... I cant run Clean Android.
Only reason I pick up android is BECAUSE of sense. So... would donate if its possible, otherwise will wait for HTC dual core or will get Desire HD.
Battery life on any sense device is horendous...i got the desire hd on telus for my girlfriend and it last ok for her but if your a power user that 1350mah battery is going to die really fast especially at hsdpa
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why is this one of the first things posted in dev sections? Sense sucks.
Sense doesn't suck lol. It's very customizable and flows pretty well. I haven't tried launcher pro but I'll definitely check it out and see if I like it. I've heard others say good things about it, but as I've said previously, I'm just very used to Sense.
Oh and about battery life. I get just over a days charge with moderate use, ie. Wi-Fi, HSPA, games, GPS, and about an hour of talk-time. I charge my phone every night regardless of how much battery life is left.
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Sense is really sluggish..
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
Sense is really sluggish..
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Not on this phone. There is no lag and everything flows extremely well.
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Not on this phone. There is no lag and everything flows extremely well.
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I had to oc my desire z all the way to 1.2 or 1.4 cuz it would run really lagy...now on cm7 with way more apps and widgets at 1.1 and its way smoother than sense ever was for me
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SN4K3B1T3 said:
I had to oc my desire z all the way to 1.2 or 1.4 cuz it would run really lagy...now on cm7 with way more apps and widgets at 1.1 and its way smoother than sense ever was for me
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That's a lot of overclock. This is at stock 1GHz and is very smooth...no problems here. I'm wondering what 1.2 would do on the Inspire.
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Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
Thanks for your thoughts
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Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
Thanks for your thoughts
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Just flash it and try for yourself. make a nand if you dont like it.
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Just flash it and try for yourself. make a nand if you dont like it.
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Hmm, interesting advice. Why didn't I think of that?
Anyone else?
p.s. in general I agree with you, best way to know is to try it yourself - but I'm at work, and it will be a while before I can flash it. But I can sneak onto the forums here and there to whet my appetite, so I'm asking for opinions.
DS is the 3.0 revision of mySense...While VU is Sense 3.0. DS is limited in ways like no lockscreen shortcuts, less homescreens, and other things, why is this? Well because it's mySense, which is a slimmed down version on Sense. It ditched the mySense dock, for a new one, that's customizable. It features all the Sense 3 widgets, and has a new one called mytouch widget. Both are very similar in speed, but I haven't tried the latter-i've only tried the DS build from daddyc. Since both are Sense 3 they'll have similar speeds, but DS may be quicker since it's slightly toned down. Less homescreens could lead to a faster experience on the homescreen, and potentially a lower RAM usage.
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DS is the 3.0 revision of mySense...While VU is Sense 3.0. DS is limited in ways like no lockscreen shortcuts, less homescreens, and other things, why is this? Well because it's mySense, which is a slimmed down version on Sense. It ditched the mySense dock, for a new one, that's customizable. It features all the Sense 3 widgets, and has a new one called mytouch widget. Both are very similar in speed, but I haven't tried the latter-i've only tried the DS build from daddyc. Since both are Sense 3 they'll have similar speeds, but DS may be quicker since it's slightly toned down. Less homescreens could lead to a faster experience on the homescreen, and potentially a lower RAM usage.
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Thanks. Yeah as far as I can tell the only bonus DS has over VU is the customizable dock, and I guess possibly a lighter build hence quicker performance. I'm sure it's a great ROM but I don't see enough reasons to make the jump from VU, which now on the beta has been absolutely stellar.
Hope no one minds this relatively pointless thread, just thought it might be a subject of interest since I know both of these Sense 3.0 ROMS will be very popular.
I personally like it better so far, the main plus is much less ram usage that VU was giving me, plus the dock bar is nice
I love them both, keep switching back and forward
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I personally like it better so far, the main plus is much less ram usage that VU was giving me, plus the dock bar is nice
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Thanks. Yeah as far as I can tell the only bonus DS has over VU is the customizable dock, and I guess possibly a lighter build hence quicker performance. I'm sure it's a great ROM but I don't see enough reasons to make the jump from VU, which now on the beta has been absolutely stellar.
Hope no one minds this relatively pointless thread, just thought it might be a subject of interest since I know both of these Sense 3.0 ROMS will be very popular.
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DS is mySense thus the lighter burden on RAM, but tbh I don't see any reasons to change from VU->DS or DS->VU. The experience you'll have on either will be similar anyway. I personally prefer the sense dockbar over the new one in DS.
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DS is mySense thus the lighter burden on RAM, but tbh I don't see any reasons to change from VU->DS or DS->VU. The experience you'll have on either will be similar anyway. I personally prefer the sense dockbar over the new one in DS.
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I tried the DS port for all of 5 minutes before I restored back to unity... I just couldn't deal with 5 homescreens and no shortcuts on the lockscreen.. But this is only my opinion... It is quite smooth, though
well i got to say i tried them both and switched back to evil d unity beta its much more smoother all i need is ffc 2 work and the battery is the same for both did not notice a difference actually i believe i get better battery with evil's unity beta and much more smoother
how can i get the beta
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Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
Thanks for your thoughts
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how can i get the beta
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Go to evil's VU thread, near the bottom of the OP there's a link for the virtuous website; go to their site then click on the blog portion to the right under 2011, and it should be there. Worth the hunting to find it, it runs beautifully.
It's not on there
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Go to evil's VU thread, near the bottom of the OP there's a link for the virtuous website; go to their site then click on the blog portion to the right under 2011, and it should be there. Worth the hunting to find it, it runs beautifully.
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It's not on there
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Yes it is.
Evil's VU Thread, bottom of OP, big link that says "Download: Changelog: More Info":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143177
VU website with beta download:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/search?u...dated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=14
Download, hit the thanks button, and enjoy
my two sense... ;-)
i tried vu and it has some cool features, BUT, like all the other roms i've tried, i just keep coming back to cm7 (which i hope they will update sometime). i like the simplicity, and it all just works.... also..... a major plus i like.... you can increase the font size for your contacts in vanilla gingerbread.... this makes looking up the right number when a contact has several to choose from.... for some reason... the sense roms leave out this nice little feature...... another BUT.... i will probably try out the VU rom again just because it does have coolness all over it...
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i tried vu and it has some cool features, BUT, like all the other roms i've tried, i just keep coming back to cm7 (which i hope they will update sometime). i like the simplicity, and it all just works.... also..... a major plus i like.... you can increase the font size for your contacts in vanilla gingerbread.... this makes looking up the right number when a contact has several to choose from.... for some reason... the sense roms leave out this nice little feature...... another BUT.... i will probably try out the VU rom again just because it does have coolness all over it...
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I also like cm7, usually when I go back to AOSP that means cm7. I tried the new RC1 and really liked it, the lock screen gestures were super cool, great for shortcuts.
But ultimately every time I try AOSP I come back to Sense based ROMS, because the peripheral apps, i.e. dialer, music, camera, are so much better IMO. I'm thinking of actually trying the No-Sense mod on the DesireHD forums. It takes a Sense ROM and removes everything BUT those peripheral apps, removes most other launcher-related things, so you can run an AOSP launcher over a stripped down Sense. Sounds like the best of both worlds.
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I also like cm7, usually when I go back to AOSP that means cm7. I tried the new RC1 and really liked it, the lock screen gestures were super cool, great for shortcuts.
But ultimately every time I try AOSP I come back to Sense based ROMS, because the peripheral apps, i.e. dialer, music, camera, are so much better IMO. I'm thinking of actually trying the No-Sense mod on the DesireHD forums. It takes a Sense ROM and removes everything BUT those peripheral apps, removes most other launcher-related things, so you can run an AOSP launcher over a stripped down Sense. Sounds like the best of both worlds.
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That does sound great, you have a link?
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That does sound great, you have a link?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475
Haven't tried it yet, but I think it should work for our phones. If you try it let us know how it works.
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475
Haven't tried it yet, but I think it should work for our phones. If you try it let us know how it works.
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Okay I tried it. It runs very fast now but the personalize menu doesn't work. So a quick fix was to re-flash the rom and set the lockscreen icons the way I wanted and then flash the script. Also, the script removes the sense weather which I didn't like but I was able to get it back by going here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13460723. The only thing is the animations don't work so it's just a black screen with the weather info but that's good enough for me. I also replaced LauncherPro with ADW EX. I've been using the phone pretty heavily and battery life has been way better.
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Okay I tried it. It runs very fast now but the personalize menu doesn't work. So a quick fix was to re-flash the rom and set the lockscreen icons the way I wanted and then flash the script. Also, the script removes the sense weather which I didn't like but I was able to get it back by going here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13460723. The only thing is the animations don't work so it's just a black screen with the weather info but that's good enough for me. I also replaced LauncherPro with ADW EX. I've been using the phone pretty heavily and battery life has been way better.
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Wow - awesome, thanks for sharing! What sense ROM are you running it over? So is it pretty much like an AOSP ROM with Sense camera, dialer, and music?
Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/
I also came across from a Desire - HTC Sync was a pile of crap, just like Kies when it's not working. When Kies works, it's waay better, not that I bother using that either - everything just syncs to my Google account(s).
As for Sense vs TW, I admit the contacts linking/integration is far better in Sense, but as for one being more "customisable" than the other, nonsense - neither interface is particularly customisable, other than widgets, which I think you're referring to. Sense had some nice ones included, but TW has too. The only one I miss from Sense is the combined clock/weather one, but you can get something which looks almost as good using the digital clock and Accuweather widgets.
That's what I first though when I exchanged my desire for a galaxy s about a year ago. You'll get used to and when you do, you will start to appreciate how good the galaxy s2 is in the other areas.
I did miss sence after switching but now I don't look back especially with the super amoled screen!
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hate sense
i love the new touchwiz. not even using go launcher any more
Always try to find a way to sync over a google services. nothing is so easy an comfortable than syncing with google on an android.
i just love how it shows all my podcasts when i download google listen and i'm good to go. i know its simple, but it just works
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To me Tw is the lightest skins..it's almost stock but better.
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tw gives closest to stock android experience. Thank god samsung don't use anything like sense or blur.
Sense is just too heavy for me.
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i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again
I love TW 4 and I use the stock launcher as well ...however it would be awesome to see Sense on this beautiful display - The eyecandy that Sense has is great
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I had sense on my Nexus One and while I tried it for a while I simply found it to be too heavily modded. Obviously it works for some but TW has been a pleasant, more stock experience so far (Coming from launcher pro). If I ever go back to HTC I'll be making sure an AOSP based rom is available before hand
Sense is something like UI overhaul of whole android. You may like it, but it is not android experience at all (except you can launch android apps).
TW is also too heavy for me, but except weird mail app it leaves android logic in place.
Black fact is, that you will have hard times to find anyone calling himself a "touchwiz hater", but you can definitely find a lot of Sense haters (take a look on any HTC related forum).
This makes your argumentation problematic and thereby very subjective, but I understand that not everyone have same feeling about HTC -> Sammy migration as me.
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Because we are on android, you can try other UI called MIUI. I found it really nice and polished. There are some features I don't like, but its worth try IMO.
buxz777 said:
i honestly hate sense ui , its a ram hog , its a battery drainer , its more complex then it needs to be and to be honest for me it is just a waste of time
give me a plain android o/s or touchwiz anyday
i actually prefer go launcher to any of them but sense ui for me is just annoying overkill with a few nice weather animations
if i wanted sense ui i would have bought the sensastion but i wanted a phone that was based on power not one based on a pretty o/s that is a resource hog
why not stop neing disapointed and just sell the sgs2 and buy a sensation?? job done you can then be a happy person again
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+1 i don't necessarily hate HTC Sense but definitely better off without it and everything you've said is spot on.
OP said himself it's eye candy and already added battery drain, RAM hogger by other user.
Meaningless thread IMO.
JirkaX said:
Coming from HTC Desire & HTC Desire HD to Samsung Galaxy S 2, there is only one think i realize. Whatever HTC lacks in hardware, it more than makes up for it in software. HTC Sync works flawlessly. You want to convert into usb? no problem. Integration with contacts? works out of the box. I am stuck here for at least 2 hrs trying to make my new mobile to sync with Kies, with no luck. Before it turned into a USB, now not even that. (and yes i know about the debugging option). Same with software, linking is not as efficient, TW not as customizable, resulting in downloading 3rd party apps to do the things that you took for granted with HTC. So far, excluding hardware, I am really disappointed with my new purchase :/
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Some devs are working on a sense but there is very little progress yet but I am with you coming from a Desire running a Sense 2.1-3.0 mix, TW is quite a disappointment
I always had an HTC before my GS2, and I definitely prefer TouchWiz.
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Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.
Meh... TW4 is okay. Pretty standard rom. Not too heavily modified like Sense, but not too bare like stock, just in the middle. Firstly,I love Sense's eye candy . I'm not a big fan of TW4. Using MIUI and that was the best thing I've ever done.
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Ill b happy with sense 2.1. Not 3. I don't care what sensation owners tell you, rooted or not, the sensation lags worse than my aging og droid.
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Sensation may lag, but the evo 3D is speed demon. I love sense so much, its so clean and useful for me. I love the notification bar layout, the polished widgets, the awesome text selection quick look up utility,and just how everything is so intergrated.
I had the epic 4g galaxy S phone and i hated it. Touchwiz on it was absolutely awful for me. Such an ugly ui on froyo.
Now with that said,i am still going to be switching to sprints version of the galaxy s2 come September 16th in hopes that touchwiz has improved since its last iteration.
Sense and TouchWiz both are very nice imho. Sense is SO integrated and clean and a perfected shot at a well made Android experience. TouchWiz is also nice, and I love TW 4.0. I have the launcher for whenever I feel like having a TouchWiz... touch... (lol) to my phone. Sense's widgets, themed overlay, etc., make it a very good experience. But WAY too heavy and cumbersome.
And whoever said Sensations lag... you must be extremely dense. Both the Sensation and EVO 3D are so blazing fast it's unbelievable. And on AOSP ROMs? I hit 4500 on quad easy. Sense is what makes the phone lag, not the phone itself.
So, by now One has reached lot of people and lot of people have been using it for a while.
I am not new to sense. My last sense phone was Droid DNA, so I have used Sense 4 and had love hate relationship with Sense back from HTC Hero days.
Now coming to Sense 5. What do you guys think. This is suppose to be very light weight, improved version of Sense, and to some extent it is.
But personally I cant seem to live with it day in and out. Blinkfeed annoys me. Plain and simple. Sources there are simply not what I read. And it is very intrusive and cant be disabled while keeping rest of the Sense. The App drawer........................ Less I talk about it the better. That is a vack step in my book. But I guess this can be subjective. But lot of wasted space and the painful vertical scrolling which Google threw out of door with ICS makes the comeback.
Even though I did not always like Sense completely on my previous HTC devices, I had never replaced the Sense before completely and forever on any of those devices. I tried desensing DNA before but I quickly went back to Sense ROM.
But Sense 5, I dont know. I wont be able to live with it as it is now. I have installed Nova Launcher on ARHD ROM. Using AOSP ROM will not be an option because I dont want to lose the critical camera functionality including the metering and HDR and even Zoe.
Personally I cant fatham how HTC design and UI department thought this is a big improvement over Sense 4. At this point I would take Sense 4 on One over current Sense 5.
But as we all know different people think differently. And hence this thread to discuss and see what others think of Sense 5.
I am liking it
Funkym0nkey said:
So, by now One has reached lot of people and lot of people have been using it for a while.
I am not new to sense. My last sense phone was Droid DNA, so I have used Sense 4 and had love hate relationship with Sense back from HTC Hero days.
Now coming to Sense 5. What do you guys think. This is suppose to be very light weight, improved version of Sense, and to some extent it is.
But personally I cant seem to live with it day in and out. Blinkfeed annoys me. Plain and simple. Sources there are simply not what I read. And it is very intrusive and cant be disabled while keeping rest of the Sense. The App drawer........................ Less I talk about it the better. That is a vack step in my book. But I guess this can be subjective. But lot of wasted space and the painful vertical scrolling which Google threw out of door with ICS makes the comeback.
Even though I did not always like Sense completely on my previous HTC devices, I had never replaced the Sense before completely and forever on any of those devices. I tried desensing DNA before but I quickly went back to Sense ROM.
But Sense 5, I dont know. I wont be able to live with it as it is now. I have installed Nova Launcher on ARHD ROM. Using AOSP ROM will not be an option because I dont want to lose the critical camera functionality including the metering and HDR and even Zoe.
Personally I cant fatham how HTC design and UI department thought this is a big improvement over Sense 4. At this point I would take Sense 4 on One over current Sense 5.
But as we all know different people think differently. And hence this thread to discuss and see what others think of Sense 5.
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I am definately liking it and personally I am a fan of Blinkfeed.
OMG! After voting can't believe I'm the only one who voted the sense 4 over 5 @[email protected]
I agree with most everything you said. Sense 5 almost feels like a beta version. Blinkfeed would be less annoying if it had more options and flexibility. There are other little annoyances like weather only in 24 hour format, missing widgets, missing settings, ect. I hope there are some significant updates coming.
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I agree with most everything you said. Sense 5 almost feels like a beta version. Blinkfeed would be less annoying if it had more options and flexibility. There are other little annoyances like weather only in 24 hour format, missing widgets, missing settings, ect. I hope there are some significant updates coming.
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It shouldnt be possible to vote for all 5.
I actually like Sense 5!
HTC have finally got it right with Sense 5, i remember using HTC Sense a few years back and it was a resource hog and the phone was never really fluid and there was always some lag preset but Sense 5 is much different, it not only looks good but isn't a resource hog like Sense was previously.
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Sense 5 is clean, fast and looks different. Out of all of the manufacture skins I prefer Sense 5.
I hate touchwiz, LG is ok but I hate the look, Sony is laggy, Motorola is close to stock but the icons are ugly.
I dont mind pure aokp but I still prefer sense.
It's one of the main reasons why I got the One.
I hope with future updates there are more options in blinkfeed. They need to let us add subreddits on blinkfeed. I would like that a lot.
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OMG! After voting can't believe I'm the only one who voted the sense 4 over 5 @[email protected]
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not anymore... came from One X and abs loved Sense 4
I actually quite like Sense 5, too. Sorry, but I think it's a huge improvement over the bloated mess that was Sense 4 and Sense 4+, which both felt like Gingerbread-era skins which made the One XL run way slower than it should have - which you could obviously see if you installed any AOSP ROM.
Sense 5 both meshes well with the Holo style of Android, while at the same time doesn't unnecessarily bog the phone down, and it's hard for me to complain about that. The best thing I can say about Sense 5 is that it doesn't make me miss CM10.1.
Being a Nova user for very long time the Sense 5 is a very pleasant surprise. It's very fast and stable. I use it.
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Sense 5 is clean, fast and looks different. Out of all of the manufacture skins I prefer Sense 5.
I hate touchwiz, LG is ok but I hate the look, Sony is laggy, Motorola is close to stock but the icons are ugly.
I dont mind pure aokp but I still prefer sense.
It's one of the main reasons why I got the One.
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Sense 5 is so much cleaner and faster than 4, and the best manufacturer skin.
I have set my home screen to a different one to Blinkfeed as I'm not too bothered about it.
This is my 4th HTC Android phone, and the first one where I haven't installed GoSMS, another dialler or keyboard. I love the default look.
I occassionally use my Sensation as a backup and that feels very laggy now. Sense 4 was ok last year, but feels dated now.
Sense 5 is nice. Blinkfeed is dumb.
I switched my home screen to the middle option and used some widgets I prefer and I have blinkfeed for some news and crap when I'm bored off to the left screen now.
Maybe I'm rare but I don't have a facebook and I don't give 2 craps to knowing every little update. I just have some news on Blink along with my calendar and that's it.
If I could do this with Sense I'd give it a try (6 rows of 4 icons plus the dock row):
I love it, finally vertical scroll back in the app drawer, I really hated horizontal scroll, it made my thumb hurt and it is much harder to follow the scrolling with your eyes, it gives me a nystagmus. I use blinkfeed and it has some great potential but I wish there were more sources though the ones that are there are almost sufficient. The only things I miss from previous sense version are a find my phone and ring phone from computer and the temperature graph in weather.
Epic!
Am loving sense 5 at the moment.
The last time I used sense was on my (wait for it - Legendary) HTC Desire back in the days. I am liking the minimalist changes HTC decided to implement in this new version.Love the remote app too can control my TV setup with ease.
The amount of times I have just turn on my phone to drool on the lockscreen/homescreen. Sense 5 with this brilliant screen is too much lol.
Love Sense 5.
I like the blinkfeed concept, just not as a homescreen.
I have used:
HTC "cube" from the HTC Touch (winmo 6.0)
Manila 2d and 3d, brand name "TouchFlo", still winmo
And.......sense from winmo, then Android (old sense, 2.0, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0)
Of all, Sense 5 is hands down the best.
I could only ask for two things.......bring back and expand customization.
Under personalize, there used to be two options:
1. Scenes
This was fantastic, if you use your phone for work and home you could save all your home screen setup as a scene and switch back and forth. I used this lots.
2. Skins
Who doesn't like customization? I feel HTC should have expanded this, not scrapped it. Give out free developer / theme tools and let people make their own to upload to HTC hub......so much wasted potential. I used to theme for winmo. My first projects were different color and themed Manila (sense) flip clocks. Theming was easy, no hidden files, no paid tools required. The way it should be. On my old Touch, I had over 200 sense skins.
Really, these are the only two features I miss. Sense is now closer to stock, flat, and fast.
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I had a nice long post written up and my Nexus 10 locked up....
In short I like it a lot... FML
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The only thing I miss are since of the widgets. Used the mail and messages about.
I like Blinkfeed ALOT and use it a lot. Just wish there were a few more feeds.
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Sense 5 is becoming more and more disappointing the more I use the phone.
I got rid of HTC's crappy launcher and immediately replaced it with Apex, a much better and more fully featured launcher. However, sense extends beyond there...
First there's the gallery. In short, it's horrible. I'm not sure why they decided to set my images to be sorted by 'events' by default but suffice it to say I can't find anything until I change it to gallery mode.
In addition to that, there are the battery stats. The stats don't tell you how much battery the screen is draining (why on earth would they omit that?) and only shows app usage. It just displays less info in general.
Finally I tried to share a photo over Facebook today and HTC shoved their crappy 'HTC Share' thing into my face. So I said to myself, what the hell, let's try it. Well my post/picture showed up on Facebook...minitiarized and with HTC's branding all over it. I may actually flash an AOSP rom if this stuff can't be fixed with roms and/or mods. Sense 5 is not horrible, but it's far from great.
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