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Can you break the LED flash by using N1 Torch?

Hi,
I rooted my N1 and installed a flashlight app (N1 Torch) that uses the phone's LED flash. It warns you that continuously using the flash might break it, though.
What has been your experience? Does "continuous use" mean "hours", "minutes" or just "more than the 0.5 seconds the flash is supposed to turn on when you make a photo"?

frandavid100 said:
Hi,
I rooted my N1 and installed a flashlight app (N1 Torch) that uses the phone's LED flash. It warns you that continuously using the flash might break it, though.
What has been your experience? Does "continuous use" mean "hours", "minutes" or just "more than the 0.5 seconds the flash is supposed to turn on when you make a photo"?
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I think that using it for a couple of minutes would be fine, the problem is that if it gets too hot it could damage the the phone especially the camera. I remember that I installed a similar program on my nokia n70 and several times happened that by accident i turned on the led while the phone was in my pocket, I only noticed that when i started to feel something burning in my pocket Now my n70's led and camera doesn't work anymore... so just be carefull not to turn on the led by accident

I had read that the LED flash was designed for quick bursts. If that is true than constantly running it could - at least - burn out the LED bulb. I doubt is it user replacable, so that is not a good thing.
I have hoped to use Torch too, but have decided its just not worth it. I will just use the lit up screen as a flashlight.

Yeah.. I'm thinking about uninstalling torch I get random clicking after I turn the app off

It's an LED.. by default LEDs are low-power, have low-heat emission and super long lifetimes. They also tolerate turning on/off repeatedly for extended periods of time.
I somehow doubt you could do any damage to the phone/LED.

Has anyone even heard of doing damage this way, or is this just speculation and ass-covering in case something goes wrong?

my old sony erricson w810i LED flash lasted for atleast an hour of continuous use with no ill effect.

LEDs don't get that bright either, not the ones you are thinking of. The LED in the nexus one is much brighter than "usual", and it's also much smaller.
High power LEDs (HPLED) can be driven at currents from hundreds of mA to more than an ampere, compared with the tens of mA for other LEDs. They produce up to over a thousand lumens. Since overheating is destructive, the HPLEDs must be mounted on a heat sink to allow for heat dissipation. If the heat from a HPLED is not removed, the device will burn out in seconds.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led#High_power_LEDs
Obviously the LED in the N1 is designed to deal with its heat under "normal usage" for a camera flash, and it probably can handle longer usages than the stock camera, but I wouldn't push it too far.
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If anyone wants to use some debug tools to find how many mA the phone pulls when the flash is on vs when its off, they could probably look up the usual heat generation for an LED of that size and see how 'safe' it is to run.

I just contacted the developer on google wave, waiting for his reply now. Please give me your address if you want to be added to the wave.

DarkLord7854 said:
It's an LED.. by default LEDs are low-power, have low-heat emission and super long lifetimes. They also tolerate turning on/off repeatedly for extended periods of time.
I somehow doubt you could do any damage to the phone/LED.
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High power LEDs do get hot (i have an LED flashlight that gets quite hot after prolonged useage. it chews up batteries as well) and, ill bet that continued useage at high output can damage it.. and the camera... theres a reason that its not enabled stock

A way around heat and power is the cycle the LED at 30-60hz. I am unsure if the developer of N1 Torch could make it happen with software alone though.

Not sure if this helps but I have shot several videos and even changed a flat tire with my BB Storm LED. Besides draining battery, the only thing I worried about was space on mr MicoSd because I could only leave it on continuously in video mode.

I used mine this morning for about 5 mins and no problems.
Still works and so does the camera.

Wait, so the Nexus One uses the High Power LED, not a regular LED?

NexusDro said:
Wait, so the Nexus One uses the High Power LED, not a regular LED?
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no he was just using that quote to prove that some leds do produce heat. judging by the brightness i would say its relatively high power, and because htc might not have mounted the led on a heatsink big enough to keep it cool after prolonged use because they designed it for a camera flash, not a flashlight. so better safe than sorry.

britoso said:
my old sony erricson w810i LED flash lasted for atleast an hour of continuous use with no ill effect.
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Ya! I had a K750 (flashed with the W800i firmware) that had as one of it's features, used the flash as a torch and a SOS beacon.

SonyEricsson's XPERIA X1 (Win Mo device, HTC manufactured) has an app for the flash too. The app has two options.
First (dimmer) is mostly OK (not recommended for hours of use either).
Second (brighter) caused a meltdown of the LED's plastic holder if used for long enough. The holder melted over the vibrator motor, thus shutting it stiff and ruining it.

aad4321 said:
exactly. led's dont get hot.... someone should email the developer of the app. i know he has done some extensive testing. post what you get
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Folks should stick to things they know. There are many VERY high power LEDs, such as those used as a flash. Depending on the application they end design may be to be used in short bursts because they create so much heat. LEDs waste LESS power through heat dispersion than a conventional lamp, but they do indeed create heat. I've seen LEDs that need a heatsink 10x their size to keep them cool. In the interest of size I would be willing to bet there is not enough heatsink on the LED flash to be able to use it for extended periods of time without burning it out.
comparing light sources from different phones as others have done here is silly. Unless you are positive that they are the same LEDs and that they have proper cooling behind them, then don't compare.
Source - Me. almost 20 years in the semiconductor design and test industry

Seconded. It's possible the LED is being driven at peak currents, or beyond too, which is fine for a short burst but not for prolonged use.

I'm the developer of N1 Torch, and was pointed towards this thread. So I can offer some answers and insight...
Standard brightness is supported 'naturally' by the LED kernel driver. I tell it to come on, and it comes on until I give it a command to turn off.
High brightness is only enabled by the kernel for ~0.5 seconds before the kernel turns it off automatically. I simply send the command repeatedly to keep it on.
I had the app tested on a sacrificial N1, and the following were the results:
- On standard brightness mode, the torch ran for over 1/2hr continuously with no problems or heat issues detected.
- On high brightness mode, the torch was noticeably warm after 1/2hr, and there was a bit of a 'heat' smell coming from it. After a further 18 minutes (total 48 minutes) the LED started flickering of its own accord and was hot. After cooling, it resumed working normally (no idea how the lifetime was affected).
You can use your own judgement based on these results (and of course, YMMV due to manufacturing differences). I would be happy to say that standard brightness is fine for extended use (1/2hr at least), but try to limit high brightness to a few minutes at a time.

Brightness at lowest level is still really bright?

I tried setting my Vibrant to the lowest possible brightness level (with auto brightness disabled, of course). It still seems very bright to me compared to the lowest level on every other phone I've used. I realize this phone has a nice screen, etc. but is there no way to make it dimmer in situations where you just don't need that bright of a display and want to save battery?
Edit: I want to clarify, I love the screen's brightness, I'm just mainly asking for battery saving purposes.

I was running a black bg for a while. It would seem to be your best option for both issues. It was said in another thread that black uses the least amount of battery.
Vibe the XDApp

You can get tinted screen protector....The bright vibrant screen is the best thing on this phone.
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All~G1 said:
I was running a black bg for a while. It would seem to be your best option for both issues. It was said in another thread that black uses the least amount of battery.
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Interesting idea, i'll try it.
STi489 said:
You can get tinted screen protector....The bright vibrant screen is the best thing on this phone.
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Yeah, that's not my complaint. No doubt this screen is awesome
What I mean is that I'd actually like to increase battery life further by going even dimmer, if possible.

Then a black background is a good idea, black pixels literally use no battery on an AMOLED screen because the pixels aren't on when they're black, so it's a true black. That's the wonderful thing about these screens, and why the contrast ratio is so ridiculously high. Also why the Kindle app has the color reversal option, making the background black and the text white, and a lot of the UI uses black in places I've seen stock android white or gray. I read a couple chapters of Sherlock Holmes the other day and my battery went down 2%. Awesome screen.

Also the web browser has a separate brightness setting.

Homestar1217 said:
..I read a couple chapters of Sherlock Holmes the other day and my battery went down 2%. Awesome screen.
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**slow reader..jk
maybe one of the genius phone gods could post a mod for a supper dim night mode. hint/nudge :burning eyes:

I would have to agree even on low the brightness of the screen is very high. I didn't realize this until today my friend wouldn't believe me I had brightness on low (his Droid's screen looked like crap compared to mine ).
Thanks for the tip on the black background... I really do need to find out ways to improve battery life on this thing.

I made a similar thread a while ago. For me it's too bright in low light situations. I'd love to see a way to lower the lowest setting.

+1, i'd like to see to an option to go even dimmer.
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Same here. The browser is downright blinding in low-light.

Hey I'm not the only one who thinks the phone should have much lower brightness settings. I think I've seen it dim lower than the lowest brightness, but only on auto mode and only for a short time. Or maybe not. But I'm sure it can go lower because it would be weird if it couldn't. I also much rather have dimmer colors than a black vacuous screen for battery savings.

It does go lower. Put the brightness on manual and set it to lowest possible then wait for it to timeout and go to sleep. 5 secs before it goes to sleep the screen goes dimmer. On the G1 the lowest setting was this pre-sleep brightness. On the Vibrant we can't get that level as an option. Fingers crossed a non-samsung rom like CM6 will fix this.

SykesAT said:
It does go lower. Put the brightness on manual and set it to lowest possible then wait for it to timeout and go to sleep. 5 secs before it goes to sleep the screen goes dimmer. On the G1 the lowest setting was this pre-sleep brightness. On the Vibrant we can't get that level as an option. Fingers crossed a non-samsung rom like CM6 will fix this.
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Good observation. Indeed hopefully its fixed in a custom ROM or even by samsung themselves (though i'm not holding my breath on that one).

Alarm Clock Plus
The "dim mode" in Alarm Clock Plus is really dim. It would be nice to have a setting that would allow me to drop the brightness down that much.

yeah, because even on low MY EYES, They BURRRN!
lol
seriously

+1 for supporting this thread!

+1 for lower brightness option.

+1 from me too. This thing lights that whole dang room when my wife is trying to sleep.

Sorry it took so long to reply to this thread. I had to go find my sunglasses.... Seriously though, I read in bed at night and yeah its way too bright.

to avoid overheating maximum brightness has been reduced

Anybody else experiencing this issue?
I looked everywhere but found no real solution.......
Tried flashing new rom no luck ...

This was quite common with the S2, what you can try is to power off your phone and remove the battery for 20-30mins, if the same issue occurs either the battery sensor is messed up or IDK.

Happened with my infuse in the summer out in the sunlight and i posted a topic in there about it. They say its normal

Well I tried this still not working .....
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Same problem here. Even i charge my Note also is heating. Dun know why.

Screen bright again
I dont know what cause this problem, but I got the same thing on my phone. A temporarily solution is to install Brightness Level from Android Market. It does not fix the problem in the system settings but it makes your screen 100% bright again

opiujn said:
I dont know what cause this problem, but I got the same thing on my phone. A temporarily solution is to install Brightness Level from Android Market. It does not fix the problem in the system settings but it makes your screen 100% bright again
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Maximum brightness? trying to get blind?
just joking....
Why so much brightness?
You know that you will get burn-in sooner with so much brightness?

yea sometimes its like a heatpad on my thigh jeans pocket

Well for me it dissapeared suddenly... I'm happy
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Jeshter2000 said:
Anybody else experiencing this issue?
I looked everywhere but found no real solution.......
Tried flashing new rom no luck ...
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I got this issue before , here is my solation
Use titanium backup to wipe the setting/wallpaper
Than u can adjust brightness but can't set wallpapers
Reboot your phone ...and everything good like before

Jeshter2000 said:
Well for me it dissapeared suddenly... I'm happy
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Problems that go away on their own, come back on their own...

Is there a way to remove this protection?
When I have the gps in the car I get that all the time, even if the phone is not hot at all, very annoying because with the sun and sunglasses -> cant see the screen very well.. stupid!

If you have one of those tpu softcases you will not know whether or not your note is hot just by the feel. Those cases are terrific insulators. I had overheating with the Note on GPS and charging. It actually shut down once and dropped out of the GPS signal a couple of times. Took the Nillikin case off and found that the whole phone was very hot.
After the case was removed I continued the trip with four days of continuous GPS and on charge with no problems. Even with the TPU naked, it still got pretty warm at the top half of the phone, but worked fine with brightness set pretty high. I think this is normal for the Note

[FiX] Galaxy Note ICS OVERHEATING PROBLEM SOLVED
[FiX] Galaxy Note ICS OVERHEATING PROBLEM SOLVED:
1 Go to settings- developer options - UNCHECK "Dont keep activities"
2 Use go launcher ex (or some other good launcher...) instead of default launcher
3 Instal from google play android assistant and use it to clean cache and stop most of background process
4 install from google play "cpu master free" (MUST HAVE ROOTED PHONE) and set 1000 MHz for MAXIMUM, and check box "set on boot"
P.S. DO NOT expect that your phone will be cold as ice after you do this...
ICS is build that you can use max. out of dual core, and galaxy note is pretty slim and back is made out of plastic...All that increase heating problem...
Hope i helped! =D

download the free version of "watchdog" and it will give you an alert if any software uses a lot of cpu power, you might have to go into setting and add system process to the watch list, you can also whitelist and blacklist program so they are killed as soon as they cpu usage goes above a certain level, though this might be pro version only.
Only use watchdog to find the problem and then remove it as it can use quite a bit of cpu power itself.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDYsImNvbS56b211dC53YXRjaGRvZ2xpdGUiXQ..
John.

Having modded the framework for my rom to include lower brightness mod i can say that the values set in the decompiled framework are virtually the same as gb values infact brightness was increased at the lowest level from 32 in gb to 40 in ics with powersaving mode set to 32 in ics
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thering1975 said:
Having modded the framework for my rom to include lower brightness mod i can say that the values set in the decompiled framework are virtually the same as gb values infact brightness was increased at the lowest level from 32 in gb to 40 in ics with powersaving mode set to 32 in ics
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I see no difference at 38 and below in LQ3. The lowest dim at 39. At 40 the brightness will then increase.

legion1911 said:
Maximum brightness? trying to get blind?
just joking....
Why so much brightness?
You know that you will get burn-in sooner with so much brightness?
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Hi legion =)
I most often use phone at 100% brightness simply just because I like it when the screen is bright and clear, colors appear nicely too on high brightness. And outdoors in sunlight its sometimes hard to see whats on the screen even though brightness is set to 100%. You were right about the burn-in. Can see some burn-in if looking very carefully, depending on what colors there are on the screen over the burn-int areas. But still they are so weak and hard to notice even when you know where to look for those areas that I will probably have bought a galaxy note 2 or maybe even 3 before they appear clearly visible and too annoying to endure
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Chaimfire made an app called "root dim "
Does as it says
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I use the goku kernel together with the LRQ stock rom and my phone does not overheet. Sure it gets hot when charging or surfing the web, especially with wifi on. But this has been normal with all smartphones I have owned so far.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

Screen Brightness Dims when battery is below 50%. any reason why ? how to fix it ?

Hi.
so I noticed something with my Oneplus Two. I am not sure if its because of the kernels or its like that form the start.
my wife has HTC ONE M9+, when my battery is full or above 50%, my screen is brighter than her screen. we use the google page from the browser to compare colors. however, when my battery is lower than 50% ( I tested it today when it was around 40% or 38% battery remaining)
and her screen was brighter than mine.
I tried all three kernels available. and all the same results. and the auto brightness is already unchecked.
any idea why this is happening ? the problem is I don't have the official kernel and I don't want to format my phone or whatever to get the stock kernel to test this again.
the only reason I actually went ahead and installed a custom kernel is because in my eyes the colors of the phone was a lil washed out " true to life but not to my liking" as I am used to more color options.
any reason why this is happening and is there a way to fix this ?
at one point I am not even sure this has something to do with the battery. it might be something to do with the phone heating ? I honestly cant tell. but feeling the phone from the back its not even warm.
thanks in advance to anyone who can actually help.

i did more testing and i still cant figure out where exactly is the problem.
my phone is now fully charged and if i go to twrp to install a kernel or something, the screen goes a lil dim again as the phone gets warm. so maybe heating has something to do with it.
is there a way to stop the phone from dimming even if its get warm ?

So I understand why you're asking the question, and it's not a bad question to ask, but you're comparing two vastly different devices.
Everything from the screen type(LCD3 vs LTPS LCD), to screen resolution (1440p vs 1080p), to processor(Mediatek Helio vs Snapdragon 810), to Android version (5.0.2 vs 5.1.1), to ROM/kernel (SenseUI vs OxygenOS) is different.
In short, you're not comparing Apples to Apples.

unremarked said:
So I understand why you're asking the question, and it's not a bad question to ask, but you're comparing two vastly different devices.
Everything from the screen type(LCD3 vs LTPS LCD), to screen resolution (1440p vs 1080p), to processor(Mediatek Helio vs Snapdragon 810), to Android version (5.0.2 vs 5.1.1), to ROM/kernel (SenseUI vs OxygenOS) is different.
In short, you're not comparing Apples to Apples.
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yeah I am not comparing screens. I just want to know why the screen dim. upon further inspection. it seems the dimming happens when I restart the phone. it needs some time then it will go up in brightness again to be higher than my wife phone.
I am no longer sure what causes this behavior. heating? restarting the phone ? phone battery ?

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
yeah I am not comparing screens. I just want to know why the screen dim. upon further inspection. it seems the dimming happens when I restart the phone. it needs some time then it will go up in brightness again to be higher than my wife phone.
I am no longer sure what causes this behavior. heating? restarting the phone ? phone battery ?
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Autobrightness is controlled through the OS and the ambient light sensor. When you reboot the phone, the screen comes on, the OS checks the light conditions through the sensor, then adjusts the brightness accordingly--either up or down based on what the OS believes is the optimal condition. You can see it in action when you hold the phone under a bright light, then suddenly turn off the light or move away from it. While under the light, the device will increase brightness to 100%, then will dim once you move away.
There is definitely some battery savings in the way autobrightness behaves as well, since the Display is normally the number one consumer of battery power--as it should be, since it's the main way you interact with the screen or get information from the device.
In any which case, you know you can set the brightness manually through the settings, right? If you turn off autobrightness and set it manually, the phone shouldn't adjust anymore.

How to fix lg v20 screen burn in?

Assalam o alaikum!
I'm having a Lg v20 Us996
And I'm suffering from severe burn in issue in screen.
Can anyone please tell me how to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance

maxi65 said:
Assalam o alaikum!
I'm having a Lg v20 Us996
And I'm suffering from severe burn in issue in screen.
Can anyone please tell me how to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance
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Because it's an lcd, it doesnt actually burn in. It's image retention or ghosting. I'm having the same problem. Lowering the brightness will help. I use automatic brightness and it works great. I've heard that using an app [Twilight] that can put a filter on the screen might help. Apply 5% filter for 30% brightness, and for every 10% brightness add another 5% filter. Example: 30% brightness, 5% filter, 40% brightness, 10% filter, 50% brightness, 15% filter, and so on. I don't know how much it will help but if it does that's always a good thing.

Audacity001 said:
Because it's an lcd, it doesnt actually burn in. It's image retention or ghosting. I'm having the same problem. Lowering the brightness will help. I use automatic brightness and it works great. I've heard that using an app [Twilight] that can put a filter on the screen might help. Apply 5% filter for 30% brightness, and for every 10% brightness add another 5% filter. Example: 30% brightness, 5% filter, 40% brightness, 10% filter, 50% brightness, 15% filter, and so on. I don't know how much it will help but if it does that's always a good thing.
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Is there any permanent fix?
Thanks for advice

maxi65 said:
Is there any permanent fix?
Thanks for advice
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There is no fix man, lcd will always burn in. its a hardware issue, the ghosting will go away so don't worry about it =).

maxi65 said:
Is there any permanent fix?
Thanks for advice
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The maker of WETA has found if you lower the values of the screen just barely through KCAL compatible kernel it can stop the ghosting completely.
But that means you have to use a custom kernel that supports KCAL so if you aren't rooted you pretty much have to deal with it. It goes away eventually.

KUSOsan said:
The maker of WETA has found if you lower the values of the screen just barely through KCAL compatible kernel it can stop the ghosting completely.
But that means you have to use a custom kernel that supports KCAL so if you aren't rooted you pretty much have to deal with it. It goes away eventually.
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Yes I've rooted my device and i have access to Kcal.
Please Confirm the values to setup in kcal to fix ghosting?

maxi65 said:
Yes I've rooted my device and i have access to Kcal.
Please Confirm the values to setup in kcal to fix ghosting?
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I believe off the top of my head it was just lower RGB by 10 points is all it took. Ineed to double check but try that in mean time

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I believe off the top of my head it was just lower RGB by 10 points is all it took. Ineed to double check but try that in mean time
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I tried by lowering it down by 10 but no fruit

maxi65 said:
I tried by lowering it down by 10 but no fruit
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Sorry dude only other thing to try is putting it to what his values are on the screen I attached but he said 10 was all it should take.

KUSOsan said:
Sorry dude only other thing to try is putting it to what his values are on the screen I attached but he said 10 was all it should take.
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ThankYou for the help
But bad news is that Ghosting effect is getting stronger and worse day by day

maxi65 said:
ThankYou for the help
But bad news is that Ghosting effect is getting stronger and worse day by day
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Try setting them to the lower values he personally uses and see. He says he likes it darker. I've noticed brightness seems to affect quite drastically on my end

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Try setting them to the lower values he personally uses and see. He says he likes it darker. I've noticed brightness seems to affect quite drastically on my end
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I also thinks the same that brightness is key issue which is promoting ghosting
And auto brightness seems to work a lil bit

Audacity001 said:
Because it's an lcd, it doesnt actually burn in. It's image retention or ghosting. I'm having the same problem. Lowering the brightness will help. I use automatic brightness and it works great. I've heard that using an app [Twilight] that can put a filter on the screen might help. Apply 5% filter for 30% brightness, and for every 10% brightness add another 5% filter. Example: 30% brightness, 5% filter, 40% brightness, 10% filter, 50% brightness, 15% filter, and so on. I don't know how much it will help but if it does that's always a good thing.
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I just got my LG V20 US996 Friday afternoon & of course tested it at full brightness most of the time but will start using automatic brightness more regularly if it really helps prevent such eventual screen issues, I just noticed today for the first time on my Moto X Pure, which also has an IPS display, what looks like burn in that appeared suddenly not gradually..?
How common is (IPS vs other screen tech) burn in-ghosting-image retention with the LG V20/US996 & best ways to avoid it's if not really totally repairable? -Thnx

Finally i fixed it, AlhamduLillah!

.... How?

Supposedly the burn in for LCD displays is rare, part of why I bought the v20 in the first place. Except it's not rare, seems to happen more than it should. I ended out sending mine in for repair, barely still in warranty. I suggest those of you with issues and warranty do the same.

Screen burn in.
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Supposedly the burn in for LCD displays is rare, part of why I bought the v20 in the first place. Except it's not rare, seems to happen more than it should. I ended out sending mine in for repair, barely still in warranty. I suggest those of you with issues and warranty do the same.
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How long was the factory warranty good for ? I bought mine in march.

maxi65 said:
Finally i fixed it, AlhamduLillah!
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How? You can't just say you fixed it and then be silent about.
I'm having ghost issues as well now.
Is it the heat that makes the problem for the screen to do it? If that is the case one more reason to use a big battery like the mugen 9300 battery which keeps the heat of the phone down tremendously. Sadly iv changed back and forward on the stock battery and my big mugenpower - and now have the problem of ghost. I do mostly have my screen on 100% light all the time as one is not even able to adjust the auto function - I ordered the phone at 2017-Marts-09 and the issue has just raised in the last couple of weeks. I bumped up from 2 minutes turn on time to 5 minutes which seemed to be the time I began to get the ghost issue, which seems to be getting worse - but that could just have been a coincident.
Its not a big issue as such but it is still a little annoying having it around.
If it is an heat issue with the LCD - had I known I would just have used my big Mugenpower battery 9300 mAh all the time which keeps the phone at an stable 21-22 celsius degrees all the time. Stock battery sometimes fly over 40 Celsius when working.
It seemed there is a one year warranty on the phone but I'm not sure if it is actually worth doing anything in that regards.
Yehovah - who was , is and is to come - God Almighty.

Jesus is God Almighty said:
How? You can't just say you fixed it and then be silent about.
I'm having ghost issues as well now.
Is it the heat that makes the problem for the screen to do it? If that is the case one more reason to use a big battery like the mugen 9300 battery which keeps the heat of the phone down tremendously. Sadly iv changed back and forward on the stock battery and my big mugenpower - and now have the problem of ghost. I do mostly have my screen on 100% light all the time as one is not even able to adjust the auto function - I ordered the phone at 2017-Marts-09 and the issue has just raised in the last couple of weeks. I bumped up from 2 minutes turn on time to 5 minutes which seemed to be the time I began to get the ghost issue, which seems to be getting worse - but that could just have been a coincident.
Its not a big issue as such but it is still a little annoying having it around.
If it is an heat issue with the LCD - had I known I would just have used my big Mugenpower battery 9300 mAh all the time which keeps the phone at an stable 21-22 celsius degrees all the time. Stock battery sometimes fly over 40 Celsius when working.
It seemed there is a one year warranty on the phone but I'm not sure if it is actually worth doing anything in that regards.
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The thread starter seems retarded for me sir.

I tried without success to use the 1 year warranty and sent my phone in TWICE to LG. Both times they did nothing but wipe the phone and claimed they fixed it.
I ended out going through my carrier which sent me a refurb phone, but it looked new. I would recommend anyone with similar issues do the same. You can change the colors of the screen and it improves what you can and can't see, but the burn-in is permanent.