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Camera usage tip with autofocus...

Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!

ltxda said:
Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!
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Cool tip!!

you know what...? I didn't know that... THANKS!
je je what a dummies...

Real man don't use this button, they allways use the camera button!
Thanks, really a simple and god tip!

The way I prevent blurry picture due to shaking hand, is to use the timer. In that way, your hand does not move at all, and you will have the best chance of taking a sharp looking picture

ltxda said:
Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!
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I never knew that (and I thought I'd pressed all the buttons all the time!) Cheers

Cool finding.
I ever found that the force needed to press the camera button to the second position was too much and making almost imposible to keep the camera steady in short distance pictures.
The solution I used to use was the mentioned timed shot, but I found quite anoying waiting for two seconds to the camera to shot.
I was running some tests and I find out quite easy to focus with the camera button and shot with the joystick. But I find out too that pressing the joystick makes the autofocus and shoting in a row. I mean you don't need to press the camera button.
Off course there is a exception. If you need to move the frame between the moment that you autofocus and the shot. This is useful when you want to focus something that is not exactly in the middle of the frame. For example. You have a girl and a landscape behind her. Off course you want to focus the girl but you want the girl, let say, in the right og the picture (of the frame). So you 1) Point the camera to the girl setting her in the middle of the frame then 2) press smoothly the camera button and the focus will be on the girl then 3) while keep pressing the camera button move the frame to set the girl in the right of the frame and 4) either press deeper the camera button (risking the blur picture) or press joystick (as propoussed here) to take the shot. The girl will be focused and in the right.
But... if in the same case you want the girl just in the middle of the frame you can just press the joystick and quickly will focus and shot the camera. You don't need to use both buttons. So the risk of getting blur in the picture is less than using both buttons or (off course) using the two fases camera button only.
Best Regards,
mahjong

mine has "half-press" option (x7501, Dual 3.0 ROM)
Open the camera app.
Tap the wrench icon in the lower left corner.
Tap the wrench icon on the far right of the lineup of icons along the bottom (advanced)
"shoot option" can be set to full press or half press.
It still autofocuses pretty well as long as your pointing the camera right at the subject. If you need to sepreate the focus and shooting functions (like we're doing art shots with this thing?) that's would be your only reason, IMHO, to use the full press.
At least that's how mine works. I couldn't find it in the User manual. Hope it helps.

Awesome feedback people.
I also found that if your experience delays with your camera and keep missing that perfect shot....that setting the camera to the Burst or Sport mode helps. I've had better luck with the Burst mode myself.
FYI, for Athena Project 4.0, we might have an updated camera. ...we'll see how it all goes during testing. Wouldn't want to put something nasty in the ROM just because it's newer.

X1 Camera

I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.

Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.

Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing

Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.

Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/

One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.

the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.

I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.

fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?

open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic

i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?

Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly

For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work

Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus

When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck

I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.

quick snap program for camera?

i was thinking, say i see something interesting, by the time i start camera etc etc it will be gone..
is there or can someone do a quick snap program?
a click will
go to camera
focus and snap
based on pre determined settings
that will be good

Not that I've found - the camera app is what it is, and you can't get past the cutesy animated GUI.
With HD Tweak you can assign "camera" to one of the TF3D home screen soft buttons, which will launch direct into the "take picture" screen, saving you a flip and a press, but you still have to hit the shutter button.

hope someone does it

Try MortScripts. I have no personal experience though..

how can mortscript help for this?

I thought may be possible to reduce clicks required by using automation. May be wrong though
Any way camera start up time is still long even with the Rhodium ported camera app on cooked ROMs (slightly better though).

Use Dutty's rom, it has the Diamond 2 camera app in it.
The screen doesn not lag, and it is very fast!

am hoping for a see it snap it kind of program... is there no way to interface with the cam directly? any developers here pls

hmm no one knows?

Autofocus doesnt work on Camera

hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english

Ripperjack75 said:
hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english
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Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck

Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB

johncmolyneux said:
Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck
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the one and only option ist "Touch Focus" i see on advanced options.
Do u mean, a rom updated doenstn work, when 1.61 is official or a higher rom?
on my phone, i hear a voice on the lensse when it sharpened the picture, on my girlfriends phone there is no voice on the lense, only the white quad moves, but there is no noise from the lense.
mayebe it is possible to destroy the Focus, when i update the camera patch and do optimices with BSB Tweaks?

wacky.banana said:
Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB
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i have only the german one. But i try to read it, when i am at home. the htc page is not available here at work ;(
can u copy and paste it maybe in this thread?
thx

Ripperjack,
See this...
" ... • Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo.
• Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
start capturing a video. Press the button again to stop capturing.
To take a photo using Touch Focus
Touch Focus allows you to focus on a particular area of the screen by
touching it. Touch Focus is enabled by default and is available in the
Photo and Contacts Picture capture modes.
1. Set the capture mode to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Tap the area on the screen where you want to focus. The focus
indicator positions itself on the selected area.
Note If you tap outside the effective focus area, a white box appears to
indicate the area where you can use Touch Focus.
3. Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo. You can also directly press and hold the area you
selected (that is, the area enclosed within the focus indicator) to
focus on that area and take a photo.
To capture photos in Panorama mode
Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and capture
the first photo. Press and hold the button again to focus and capture
each subsequent photo and complete the panorama....."
WB
Full manual available here...http://www.htc.com/uk/userguide.aspx?p_id=297
PS: I just checked on my device. If yo go into the camera app>settings>advanced, make sure Touch Focus on the first page is set to ON.

ok, thx. Try this all. But have no effect. Onlyo the Quad moves, but not sharpening the Picture.
A new ROM maybe cannot repair this?

Hi Ripperjack,
If I were you I would move to the official ROM 1.48. Then BEFORE loading any fixes or software on (1.48 has most of them in it anyway) I would test the camera and see if it works according to the handbook.
If it does not then you might want to consider sending the device back as faulty and getting a replacement.
Cheers
WB

have the original 1.48 ROM from HTC on my HD2. It was on my phone already, when i get it. Girlfriends phone also have 1.48. I wanna try to flash the 1.61 Custom on my phone, but when i do this, i loose my warranty?

otherwise, is there any Registry entry to activate/deactivate the Focus on Camera?

push maybe someone know it?

[Q]Camcorder Auto-Focus OK, but why not in Camera ?

Hi to all,
is working the auto-focus on camera ?? or it only me that i have this issue ?
autofocus works fine in camcorder, but i trying to take a photo of my bussines-card and i cant read my name.. number.. etc :/
happen to all ?
thank, and sorry for my english

I can't get the camera to focus either. I'm guessing the HD7 camera button is the kind that focuses when you press it lightly, and takes the picture when you press it completely.
So I'm thinking the only way to get it to focus is to map the function to a different key. But that might not be possible.
Just my thoughts...

I notices This issue too, but found an easy way to focus with camera. 2 Options :
- Having your phone pointing the object you want to take a picture of before launching the camera software -> focus ok 80%
Or
- Just switch to video camera (->Autofocus) then switch back to photo mode (still focused)
I hope it helps a bit

Nevralgeek said:
I notices This issue too, but found an easy way to focus with camera. 2 Options :
- Having your phone pointing the object you want to take a picture of before launching the camera software -> focus ok 80%
Or
- Just switch to video camera (->Autofocus) then switch back to photo mode (still focused)
I hope it helps a bit
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option 2 works fine thank a lot