Camera usage tip with autofocus... - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!

ltxda said:
Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!
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Cool tip!!

you know what...? I didn't know that... THANKS!
je je what a dummies...

Real man don't use this button, they allways use the camera button!
Thanks, really a simple and god tip!

The way I prevent blurry picture due to shaking hand, is to use the timer. In that way, your hand does not move at all, and you will have the best chance of taking a sharp looking picture

ltxda said:
Maybe everyone knows it but I just discovered this yesterday! LOL
We already knew that you could press the "2-stage" camera button to get a focus then take the snap shot...but....this sometimes causes the picture to come out blurry because, as has happened to me on many many occassions, I accidentally move the camera. Hate that!
Well, today I found out that I could focus with the camera button then take the snapshot/picture with the action joystick. DUH! Man this makes it much easier to take clear pictures. Hope this tip helps others!
Long live the Athena Project!
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I never knew that (and I thought I'd pressed all the buttons all the time!) Cheers

Cool finding.
I ever found that the force needed to press the camera button to the second position was too much and making almost imposible to keep the camera steady in short distance pictures.
The solution I used to use was the mentioned timed shot, but I found quite anoying waiting for two seconds to the camera to shot.
I was running some tests and I find out quite easy to focus with the camera button and shot with the joystick. But I find out too that pressing the joystick makes the autofocus and shoting in a row. I mean you don't need to press the camera button.
Off course there is a exception. If you need to move the frame between the moment that you autofocus and the shot. This is useful when you want to focus something that is not exactly in the middle of the frame. For example. You have a girl and a landscape behind her. Off course you want to focus the girl but you want the girl, let say, in the right og the picture (of the frame). So you 1) Point the camera to the girl setting her in the middle of the frame then 2) press smoothly the camera button and the focus will be on the girl then 3) while keep pressing the camera button move the frame to set the girl in the right of the frame and 4) either press deeper the camera button (risking the blur picture) or press joystick (as propoussed here) to take the shot. The girl will be focused and in the right.
But... if in the same case you want the girl just in the middle of the frame you can just press the joystick and quickly will focus and shot the camera. You don't need to use both buttons. So the risk of getting blur in the picture is less than using both buttons or (off course) using the two fases camera button only.
Best Regards,
mahjong

mine has "half-press" option (x7501, Dual 3.0 ROM)
Open the camera app.
Tap the wrench icon in the lower left corner.
Tap the wrench icon on the far right of the lineup of icons along the bottom (advanced)
"shoot option" can be set to full press or half press.
It still autofocuses pretty well as long as your pointing the camera right at the subject. If you need to sepreate the focus and shooting functions (like we're doing art shots with this thing?) that's would be your only reason, IMHO, to use the full press.
At least that's how mine works. I couldn't find it in the User manual. Hope it helps.

Awesome feedback people.
I also found that if your experience delays with your camera and keep missing that perfect shot....that setting the camera to the Burst or Sport mode helps. I've had better luck with the Burst mode myself.
FYI, for Athena Project 4.0, we might have an updated camera. ...we'll see how it all goes during testing. Wouldn't want to put something nasty in the ROM just because it's newer.

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Removing G1 Shutter waiting time and various settings

Well, I noticed many people were unhappy with the shutter timing.
This is very annoying, but hey, I think it is neccesary.
I apologize if a thread like this has already been posted.
Anywhom, there is a simple application in the market that may help you with this issue.
How-To:
1.) Visit the Market, and search for the application (SnapPhoto).
-SnapPhoto will give you the option to change many interface settings with the Android Camera. ( Brightness, Effects, Shutter, etc... )
2.) After you find the application, you need to download it, obviously.
After the download, Run it, and Click your menu button, and choose (Settings)
3.) Ok, now, you should see a list of settings. I wont explain them too you, as they are blantly explained in the description.
-Such as brightness(I assume everyone will catch on to these automatically)
4.) Ok, after you have changed any settings you want, you can change your shutter by returning the the Main application (SnapPhoto), and press the Camera Side Button ( this is the camera button on the right side of your phone.
-You should see a message that says "Disabling Stability detect". This removes the shutter wait time. It can also effect your image quality if you are moving and such.(Which is the main purpose of have auto-focus and such components.)
PS: To re-enable Your auto-focus/shutter, simply go to the app, and press the camera button, and it should say "Detecting Stability", exit app, and go to the actual camera .
!Enjoy
I dunno, if I wanted to turn off the auto-focus, I'd just take photos with the track-ball and not the camera button.
The track-ball takes photos in about 1second (compared to the 3-5second autofocus). I believe it is the default no-focus quicksnap button. May not be as widely known as I thought.
KyleK29 said:
I dunno, if I wanted to turn off the auto-focus, I'd just take photos with the track-ball and not the camera button.
The track-ball takes photos in about 1second (compared to the 3-5second autofocus). I believe it is the default no-focus quicksnap button. May not be as widely known as I thought.
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Are you sure? i have done a great deal of phtographing on this device and never noticed that. i just tried it now and i was able to take a pic just as fast with the camera button as the trackball. Also, when i press the trackball, it does auto-focus, so im not sure why you would say it does not. If you swing the camera and do not let the lense itself focus on the new item, then yes, there is no delay because the camera thinks that you are still looking at the same point of focus. That is the only time mine does not focus. If you turn and wait even 1 sec, then take a pic, it will auto-focus. I promise!
(ok i was able to finally get your result, but only after i focused it 1st with the camera button, then i tapped the trackball and the shot was instant)
The difference that i have seen between the camera button and the trackball is that if you half-press the camera button, it will focus, but not take the picture. The trackball is a static switch and thus cannot do that. (also the camera button sucks. i bet most of the camera problem come from the need to press that button so far into the phone causing the device to move and cause blur and needs to refocus. also, i would not be suprised if some are unaware that this 1/2 press exists and think that the camera is just not working correctly.)
For really clean pics, i suggest finding you shot, then 1/2 press the camera button. Let it focus on the subject. Then find the most stable way to hold the phone and use the trackball to take the picture. (less pressure needed = less shake and better pics) Works great for me and as i mentioned above, you can get instant pics with this method, as long as the camera does not think that it has moved.

X1 Camera

I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.
Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.
Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing
Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.
Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/
One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.
fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?
Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work
Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck
I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks
Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.

Camera hardkey

Is there someway to set hardkey for taking picture for example volume key up? It would be lot easier to use camera.
good idea!!
I'm curious about this too. Although I use custom ROMs (freyberry), I try to reassign buttons via the settings menu, but NO buttons appear in the list, so can't be reassigned. Odd.
that would be great, hope someone to find a way!
I'd like this too, but don't expect a positive response. If we wanted to assign one hard button to a different one then I could believe that happening. But it's not a button that you want to emulate - it's touch on the screen, and that's a completely different thing. I think it would mean hacking the actual camera app to get what you're asking.
Fingers crossed that I'm wrong
somebody managed to do it on the iphone, so hopefully they can do it on this!
variskarhu said:
Is there someway to set hardkey for taking picture for example volume key up? It would be lot easier to use camera.
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It's a good idea - but I don't really miss a hardware camera button too much. Would love it if the volume keys could be remapped in the camera application to act as zoom in/out instead. The current zoom in/out process is a real pain.
bennyhillslovechild said:
The current zoom in/out process is a real pain.
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Isn't it digital zoom?
Why bother?
Taking photo of myself requires so much effort without the hard key!!
Hope someone can come out with something for this.
Anyone tried AEBPlus?
I am looking for the same .. its tough to take pics when you have a greasy hand
myth1001 said:
Taking photo of myself requires so much effort without the hard key!!
Hope someone can come out with something for this.
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Not such a crazy request - just out on holiday at the moment and as usual I often snap quick shots of my wife and I in front of the major sites - the best way around this is to put the phone in self timer mode. 10 seconds is best i found as it gives enough time allow the camera to autofocus when moving it into position.
Daniel

Taking Picture With Camera Problem

I don't know about you guys but i think its stupid the way you take a picture when you move the camera it autofocusses on to a certain spot but when you press the button to take picture it doesn't try to focus first i think the camera should do that to get the best picture since when pressing this button you move the camera...
Also when taking a picture on screen it looks nice and bright but when taking the picture it is very dark how can this be helped?
Does anyone know what to do about it?
Thnx!
Hi,
Have you tried adjusting the settings, i.e. Brightness, Sharpness & ISO?
I found the camera takes a little adjusting to get the best out of it. As for the auto-focus isn't there an option for that? I no longer use the Stock HTC ROM so I cannot remember if it contained such a setting.
its because your meant to touch the area of the picture you want it to focus on, then take the picture.
i've been having a hard time taking self shots with girlfriend.
srsly.
Idk how you guys use it
please advice.
hyocca said:
i've been having a hard time taking self shots with girlfriend.
srsly.
Idk how you guys use it
please advice.
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enable "self portrait" option in the camera menu and it will auto focus and auto shoot without a single button pressed.

Anyone else find the Camera button useless?

I have to say that I never ever use the Camera button on my G2. I always go for the Camera App on my screen instead.
I go to the camera app as well, but I use the button to actually take the picture. I take steadier pictures that way.
tazz9690 said:
I go to the camera app as well, but I use the button to actually take the picture. I take steadier pictures that way.
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I usually use the Trackpad myself. I don't think I've ever used the button for that lol.
I love the camera button, frees up a spot for an app on my screen.
I could also just turn a light on in the room but I also love the flash on my camera.
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tazz9690 said:
I go to the camera app as well, but I use the button to actually take the picture. I take steadier pictures that way.
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I actually take less steady pictures with the camera button. Maybe I'm not used to how hard to press it, or maybe its my genetic hand tremors onsetting as I get older, but I take smoother pictures more consistently tapping the capture button on the screen lol.
I love the camera button, one thing I hated about the Nexus One was the lack of a two stage camera button.
I didn't think I would use it, but turns out I use it almost daily...(mostly to take vids of drunk roommates =])
If there wasnt that camera button I would ask why HTC were so dump and didnt include it. I use it every time I want to take picture ... not only to shoot the picture itself but to open camera app as well!! It would be waste to have icon for camera app on homescreen with this button. Thanks HTC for that!! I dont want phone w/o camera button anymore!
I don't really use it but I wouldn't say its useless lol... I use it sometimes
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hogg2500 said:
I usually use the Trackpad myself. I don't think I've ever used the button for that lol.
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I never knew the trackpad button clicked the "shutter" on the camera app. Thanks for that!
Personally, I use the hardware camera button quite a bit to both open the camera app, and to take the photo. I don't keep a shortcut to the camera app on my main homescreen.
camera button
It's good to have the button, but I usually use the button on the screen both for getting to the app and for shooting.
Having to push down the hardware button all the way make my hand move enough to have unsharp pictures.
I think I just have to get used to it.
I use it all the time; instead of having to go home to open the camera no matter what app I am in I can just hit the button. Actually wouldn't buy a phone without one now...it was a huge annoyance on my Touch HD.
I just use the camera button to open the camera app. I don't know if I have a faulty button or something, but when I take multiple pictures of something by pressing the camera button, the pictures don't really "register".
I'll have to press the camera button 3 times in order for it to finally take a picture, so now I just rely on the trackpad and the on-screen button.
A hardware button is always useful; I don't bother keeping a Camera app link on my desktops thanks to the button. Similar, shooting with the on-screen shutter button is awkward at best in landscape mode (portrait I can see using it).
For those having shake problems when hitting the button, remember the shooter's adage. Squeeze, don't pull. Get it halfway down, resting against the firmer resistance while it focuses, then just squeeze and hold. Too many people just thump it and release, leading to a whole lot of unnecessary bounce.
Truth be told, I'd still be a bit happier with some software image stabilization, at the expense of ten pixels a side or so. No idea why it doesn't already do this, or at least have the option.
I use it all the time.... as a play/pause button!
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Incredibly useful... so I can open Handcent Quick SMS from within any app... you can also use it for Quick Settings.
I use mine to open up a "quicknote" app in conjunction with "button shortcut" app

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