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[Q] Frozen Syndicate Rom, Ext4, Journal Disabled

So I recently had three or more incidents when my phone froze and I had to do a battery pull. Both times, after a restart, my phone has been working normally, no signs of apps force closing, and all data and apps appear to be working.
I am currently running Frozen Syndicate Rom 1.1.0, stock vision kernel, on ext4 with journaling disabled.
Each time this happened, I was worried my phone wasn't going to boot up or would continuously force close. Is it rare or common for that to happen? or am I just getting lucky???

motog35 said:
So I recently had three or more incidents when my phone froze and I had to do a battery pull. Both times, after a restart, my phone has been working normally, no signs of apps force closing, and all data and apps appear to be working.
I am currently running Frozen Syndicate Rom 1.1.0, stock vision kernel, on ext4 with journaling disabled.
Each time this happened, I was worried my phone wasn't going to boot up or would continuously force close. Is it rare or common for that to happen? or am I just getting lucky???
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Getting lucky
You should probably enable journalizing
edit: lol we posted the same thing at the same time.

motog35 said:
So I recently had three or more incidents when my phone froze and I had to do a battery pull. Both times, after a restart, my phone has been working normally, no signs of apps force closing, and all data and apps appear to be working.
I am currently running Frozen Syndicate Rom 1.1.0, stock vision kernel, on ext4 with journaling disabled.
Each time this happened, I was worried my phone wasn't going to boot up or would continuously force close. Is it rare or common for that to happen? or am I just getting lucky???
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Getting lucky
You should probably enable journalizing
edit: lol we posted the same thing at the same time.

for some reason, I find it very hard to believe. Unless I have journaling enabled without knowing. But I am sure I've never enabled journal.

Does creating a nandroid backup all data, apps, sms, contacts, etc? Eliminating the need for titanium backup?
Thanks in advance.
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I was in the same boat as you when SFR first came out but it will progressively become more unstable. Just flash the journaling zip and hope that there isn't any corrupted data hiding.

A phone crash doesn't garuntee corruption without a journal, just a good chance. If its in the middle of a write operation or a commit then it will probably trash a lot of data
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I'm on SRF 1.1.0 with the twilight kernel and every once in a while my phone will act up. I just choose reboot from the menu and everything is fine again for a few days.

I just flashed the journal on zip and have not noticed any performance decrease. Quadrant scores remain the same.
I don't see why people wouldn't do it. I'm very grateful the times I had to pull the battery out there were no corruption that resulted.
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motog35 said:
I just flashed the journal on zip and have not noticed any performance decrease. Quadrant scores remain the same.
I don't see why people wouldn't do it. I'm very grateful the times I had to pull the battery out there were no corruption that resulted.
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They say the performance increases are minimal at best.

update to 1.1.1 join the rest of the "cool kids" lol i have it journaling on genocide
ee03 modem and darkis nebula

mcdeeandhisepic said:
update to 1.1.1 join the rest of the "cool kids" lol i have it journaling on genocide
ee03 modem and darkis nebula
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you mean upgrade to 1.2 like the REAL cool kids! Love this ROM!

adamdelozier said:
you mean upgrade to 1.2 like the REAL cool kids! Love this ROM!
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^^ Beat me to it

[FIXED] having issues.. EDIT! ram issue! Edit 2: fixed! sd card issue

im not sure when this started but it seems like every rom, every kernal i use now my phone will close apps to a black screen and freeze up for different lengths of time. was doing it in stock, and now a custom rom. tried different kernals... seems to be worse when the phone first boots up. its almost like a force close but slower and i don't get the force close message. help
Edit: ok i brought up the ram manager and my ram would start around 250 and climb up before my eyes until the screen blacks out.... how do i figure out what is eating up the ram.. and why does it stop?

murso74 said:
im not sure when this started but it seems like every rom, every kernal i use now my phone will close apps to a black screen and freeze up for different lengths of time. was doing it in stock, and now a custom rom. tried different kernals... seems to be worse when the phone first boots up. its almost like a force close but slower and i don't get the force close message. help
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I assume you already tried Odin to clear out any crap left right?
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JohnCorleone said:
I assume you already tried Odin to clear out any crap left right?
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yeah odined to stock ec05 and it was just as bad. rebooting the phone actually made it worse... seemed like it took forever for everythign to stabilize. phone also seems to get hot but i could be wrong about that. not the battery but above the battery near the camera

Quite often this is caused by restoring old data over a new rom using a program like titanium backup. Sometimes you can get away with it between similar roms but restoring Froyo data on to a gingerbread rom will almost always cause lots of FCs.

poit said:
Quite often this is caused by restoring old data over a new rom using a program like titanium backup. Sometimes you can get away with it between similar roms but restoring Froyo data on to a gingerbread rom will almost always cause lots of FCs.
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i never restore data from nandroid backups and i reinstall all my apps from the market...
maybe my phone is tired
modem seems to be resetting alot too

murso74 said:
yeah odined to stock ec05 and it was just as bad. rebooting the phone actually made it worse... seemed like it took forever for everythign to stabilize. phone also seems to get hot but i could be wrong about that. not the battery but above the battery near the camera
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Isn't the spot right above the battery where the chip is located? Have you been overclocking your phone like I have at 1400 everyday? I was wondering if I have been flashing too much. I saw some of these issues myself. Odin started freezing as well but it seems to have smoothed out. I thought I may have wiped out my phone
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JohnCorleone said:
Isn't the spot right above the battery where the chip is located? Have you been overclocking your phone like I have at 1400 everyday? I was wondering if I have been flashing too much. I saw some of these issues myself. Odin started freezing as well but it seems to have smoothed out. I thought I may have wiped out my phone
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no.... set at concervitive 200 - 1000. but i was using drockstars kernal before this without using a governer and it was still doing it. now i'm using TZ 1.1.1
it is that spot.. but its not hot there all the time either. very annoying issue

murso74 said:
no.... set at concervitive 200 - 1000. but i was using drockstars kernal before this without using a governer and it was still doing it. now i'm using TZ 1.1.1
it is that spot.. but its not hot there all the time either. very annoying issue
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Ummm, I am kind of at a loss here. You don't have any physical damage to your phone? No serious drops? You didn't go swimming with it in your pocket? But seriously, I run at 1400/100 on demand all of the time and that spot gets hot on Gingerbread ROMs but not on Froyo unless I run a lot of video at 1400 max.
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JohnCorleone said:
Ummm, I am kind of at a loss here. You don't have any physical damage to your phone? No serious drops? You didn't go swimming with it in your pocket? But seriously, I run at 1400/100 on demand all of the time and that spot gets hot on Gingerbread ROMs but not on Froyo unless I run a lot of video at 1400 max.
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yeah i don't know what to think either. i guess when official gb finally drops i'll try one last clean install and if it keeps doing it i'm going to have to go through insurance

murso74 said:
yeah i don't know what to think either. i guess when official gb finally drops i'll try one last clean install and if it keeps doing it i'm going to have to go through insurance
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When did you purchase your phone? did this start to happen after you started loading custom ROMs or since the start?
What is your current setup right now? Do you use RFS or EXT4?
What hacks have you loaded to your phone, and after what even that you performed on the phone did you start experiencing this issues?

megabiteg said:
When did you purchase your phone? did this start to happen after you started loading custom ROMs or since the start?
What is your current setup right now? Do you use RFS or EXT4?
What hacks have you loaded to your phone, and after what even that you performed on the phone did you start experiencing this issues?
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i've had the phone for a year. i've been doign roms for at least 6 months.. this only started in the last month on both rfs and ext4. i don't know what i did that could have done this.. honestly i started noticing it when i odined back to EC05 a few weeks ago. then i did an rfs rom, then drockstars kernal, now srf 1.2 and tz kernal. just seems to be getting worse and worse. to be honest it may have started after i flashed back from eh22

Are you on TW4 Launcher? That can cause phone to freeze.

Overstew said:
Are you on TW4 Launcher? That can cause phone to freeze.
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i am actually.... although this started before the tw4 launcher. i guess i'll remove it for a while and see what happens. dammit i liked the tw4 launcher too

Don't use any CPU programs like setcpu, etc.. if not try wiping your sd card. Could just be your phone too.
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I had this issue for a while and it caused me to leave to the iPhone, but now after months of waiting I am trying to bring my epic back
I will post my results I am going to try flashing back to stock and see it if can stay on for a day with out crashing....I'll be back with results in a day or 2

Mine does the same thing and it shuts off sometimes at 35% battery left. Just in the past month. Im stock not rooted. One more thing somedays i get 13 hrs of life and others like 6, same usage everyday and same area so service isnt the issue.
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I had this same issue. I was to a point of chamging phones.
I decided to watch 5 different tutorials/youtibe videos on how to odin back to stock.
In that process, 3 of the videos had different options checked. Yes, I decided to try each way, restoring apps/data from Titanium, each time.
After the first 2 attempts, and still seeing the freezes, I started to get some kind of com.google.apps process force close errors.
I was really ready to beat my phone up at this point.
So, after deciding, I've had enough, I said I would do it ONE more time. (There was still one more checkbox that another video was showing...)
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Sry, my fat fingers pressed submit.
Anyhow, Ive 0 programming experience so, all of this might kust be a lucky fluke. When I odin'd, I checked all three options. Re-Partition, Autoreboot, And F. Reset Time.
Only 1 video of the 4 I watched said to do this.
I then restored my apps and data back w/ Titanium.
I did make sure that any data from OEM apps, was not broight back, as a precaitonary on my part. It was really driving me nuts. Hope this helps....
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crap well it wasn't TW4... uninstalled it last night. today rebooted and same thing.... its so strange it only happens the most after i reboot the phone. black screen with the status bar up top. if i touch the screen the button lights will come on ... if i swipe down the status bar it will eventually come down.. but with a ton of lag
i guess i'll nandroid backup and start from scratch with odin again. bone stock no root see what happens.
EDIT: just noticed that the modem seems to reset every time it does this. didn't see that before cause it doesn't always make the no signal sound. but the bars on the status screen go dark and the little x pops up above them before the home screen redraws. so basically whatever i'm doing goes to black screen.. times out for 10 min with just the bar on top, modem resets and goes back to the home screen

ok i brought up the ram manager and my ram would start around 250 and climb up before my eyes until the screen blacks out.... how do i figure out what is eating up the ram.. and why does it stop?
man this is nuts... i've got android system info running and i'm watching the processes tab... all the programs start usign memory, then android starts killing them off until they are almost all gone then i go to black screen... i dont' know what the hell is going on
edit: tasks is showing android.process.acore twice, package com.fede.launcher. both are using 34.89 MB and have cpu at 100... however total CPU usage is only showing 7%

You Know What Freaks Me Out?

That random occurrence where my phone sits on the White Screen longer than I expect it too after a reboot, and just as I reach to pull the battery, after waiting longer than I think I should, the boot animation comes on...

HipKat said:
That random occurrence where my phone sits on the White Screen longer than I expect it too after a reboot, and just as I reach to pull the battery, after waiting longer than I think I should, the boot animation comes on...
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This has happened to me many times lol
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This happens to me e v e r y single time after flashing a new ROM. It freaks me out I gots to admit.
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Almost like a proximity sensor or a live droid inside... just waiting

The first time I flashed a Rom I sat there patiently waiting for what seemed to be an eternity and every time since it hasn't got much easier. Lol
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Sometimes, I toss my phone into a random drawer, shut it and walk away so I don't sit and stare.
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I got freaked out yesterday. Here's what happened. I had icsp3 installed on my phone but I was in miui from my SD. (Boot manager). So I tried to boot back into ics and it instantly went to hboot, and not the hboot I'm used to seeing. This didn't have the option for recovery. I would hit reboot and it would go black for about half a sec and then right back into hboot. I was like oh s*it! So I pulled the battery and booted into hboot then recovery and all was good. Still don't know what happened but I thought I was eff'd for sure.

That's why when I flash a ROM I cunnect it to the USB, type "adb logcat" and sit and watch what it's doing.
No longer do I wonder if it's locked up... I see it going through all its processes before it gets around to updating the screen... real stress reliever.

pfft...
Come talk to me when you've made your own connection prong for the WiFi antenna and soldered that to the Evo board... then the ever so wonderful post-"in pieces" boot up.
btw - WiFi works well now!

erulai said:
pfft...
Come talk to me when you've made your own connection prong for the WiFi antenna and soldered that to the Evo board... then the ever so wonderful post-"in pieces" boot up.
btw - WiFi works well now!
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I know what ya mean, it freaks me out every time I have to do that.

mildlydisturbed said:
That's why when I flash a ROM I cunnect it to the USB, type "adb logcat" and sit and watch what it's doing.
No longer do I wonder if it's locked up... I see it going through all its processes before it gets around to updating the screen... real stress reliever.
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Ahh, good plan. I always have mine plugged in, too, when I flash a ROM, just to keep the battery charging while booting

Ahaha! I get scared deleting things from Titanium Backup! Lol scarred myself for life when I was on r3chargeD I accidentally deleted some app/s (still don't know what I deleted) and I rebooted and it never came back lol I had to reinstall the ROM fresh lol
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Phantom Low Battery Shutdown

The first time this happened to me I figured it was a fluke. Now I've had a third time where in mid phone call my Epic has "thought" it's battery was drained to 0 and hung up my call then proceeded to shut down. The first time was in a busy train station in Chicago, don't remember the situation the second, and today was when I got another call beeping in while I was on the line. Each time when I booted the phone back up it showed plenty of life left on the battery.
Has anyone else experienced this or could it be my phone? I wish I could remember specifics from the first two occurrences, but I believe it could have been a call waiting situation as well.
FWIW, I'm on the MTD CleanGB 1.0.3 rom.

Does it go through a shut down or is it just off? If it is just off may be loose battery connections. Oh you said it shut down on the call....maybe it was a modem crash. Try reflashing a modem.
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Mine actually did this last night while I was on the phone

kennyglass123 said:
Does it go through a shut down or is it just off? If it is just off may be loose battery connections. Oh you said it shut down on the call....maybe it was a modem crash. Try reflashing a modem.
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It actually goes through the shutdown. Does the low battery double beep and pop up, then says shutting phone down.

Might need to wipe the battery stats then re-calibrate the battery. Mine has done this before, but I'm pretty sure it was from throwing the battery at my wall.

theduce102 said:
Might need to wipe the battery stats then re-calibrate the battery. Mine has done this before, but I'm pretty sure it was from throwing the battery at my wall.
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Quite possible. I think I didn't bother calibrating the last couple of times I've flashed a ROM. Going to go ahead and do that and hopefully it doesn't happen again.

CapsLockKey said:
Quite possible. I think I didn't bother calibrating the last couple of times I've flashed a ROM. Going to go ahead and do that and hopefully it doesn't happen again.
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Ya I've had the same issue I would have like 14% and while I'm in a call it would shut down
Just wipe status and calibrate it and it should be fine
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I've had this happen, only on cm7 though.
Doesn't happen often so I've not been worried about it
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This used to happen to me ALL the time. It was so frustrating, as soon as it hit 15% if I was talking it'd shut right down. Thankfully flashing the new GB roms seems to have fixed the problem. I sure hope it doesn't happen in CM7

I have this issue regardless of rom. Happens when on a call and low battery alert sounds.

Well, just did it to me again. I calibrated the battery after upgrading to the latest MTD cleanGB yesterday. I was in a building that had poor signal granted, but same thing dropped call, low battery popped up and it shutdown. I had 60% battery left.

[POLL] How often do you reboot?

I know, it's not Windows, but is it a good idea from time to time to reboot manually? Would we have any benefit from doing this?
Personally, I reboot only when I really have to, for making backup, or when I install anything on system level that requires rebooting. My system is solid and stable and if anything hangs, simple selective app killing solved everything so far.
I was on CM7, and Neutrino earlier and was very satisfied with both of them, but then I bought lapdock so I switched to Nottachtrix. I had no need to reboot manually with any of them. Maybe your mileage varies, and I'd like to hear your opinions.

Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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Over 10 times a day, hardware problems causing random shutdowns all the day xD

Well, im running Th3Bill's MIUI 2.8.17 and i have to reboot the phone at least one time in the day because for random reasons, it loses internet acces, and i have to reboot it to get everything working again. Also when the camera goes crazy and when i open the app, says that can't connect to the camera. A reboot fixes that issue.

i'm using jokers CM9 and its been stable as a stable thing tied down to a really heavy stable object.
but i do reboot it 2 or 3 times a week - usually because i forget to put it on charge overnight and the battery dies

andrew.cambridge said:
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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I have it automated to go to airplane mode in 11PM and it resumes in 7AM, that's about turning it off. I have it next to my bed, and sometimes I use it as a flashlight during the night. I love this flashlight app.
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Over 10 times a day, hardware problems causing random shutdowns all the day xD
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I should have included "Randomly. It reboots by itself." option in poll.
djluis48 said:
Well, im running Th3Bill's MIUI 2.8.17 and i have to reboot the phone at least one time in the day because for random reasons, it loses internet acces, and i have to reboot it to get everything working again. Also when the camera goes crazy and when i open the app, says that can't connect to the camera. A reboot fixes that issue.
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I remember stuck camera problem when I tested ... some of ROMs (can't remember which ones) and it was a deal breaker. You shuold reconsider your ROM-radio-kernel choice. I had best experience with Neutrino, regarding battery life, speed and stability. With Blur based Nottachtrix I lost CM goodies (which I really miss), some speed and battery life, but I gained Webtop functionality. However, Nottachtrix has proven to be stable and reliable.

I always reboot once a day regardless of its needed or not. My wife use to never reboot her inspire and she kept having freeze ups so I told her reboot once a day now hers seams to be doing a lot better.
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Well my touchscreen is broken so i need to pull the battery to hang up a phone call... going to replace it soon though.

andrew.cambridge said:
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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Exactly !
Dont know why people want their phones on 24/7 you're no president of your country
plus it might help i better battery and overall life of device

I reboot every morning after full charge. Clears up the RAM.
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Whatever happends, even if I run stock or any custom ROM, my data connection gets lost with time. Impossible to get it back without a reboot. So I reboot quite a LOT !

I reset almost every day since almost every day I'm flashing a new ROM, or returning a Nandroid. But many times, connection problems, or freezing apps, I managed to solve restart.

Basically never. =) never have any problems on thebills miui
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I reboot about once or twice a day but not because I want to, the dreaded random reboots have returned
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I reboot mainly when I f**k up an system file (last one was when I froze the blur launcher... it kept showing FC one after another..... adios battery! Hello bootscreen!

maajstor said:
I know, it's not Windows, but is it a good idea from time to time to reboot manually? Would we have any benefit from doing this?
Personally, I reboot only when I really have to, for making backup, or when I install anything on system level that requires rebooting. My system is solid and stable and if anything hangs, simple selective app killing solved everything so far.
I was on CM7, and Neutrino earlier and was very satisfied with both of them, but then I bought lapdock so I switched to Nottachtrix. I had no need to reboot manually with any of them. Maybe your mileage varies, and I'd like to hear your opinions.
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once a day

My intention is not to reboot ever .. but being on a beta ROM has its side-effects ..
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andrew.cambridge said:
Does shutting your phone off at night count? There's no need IMO to have a phone on 24/7. Take a break from it.
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I stopped thinking this way after 9/11. On 9/10, I went out drinking with friends and went to bed without shutting off my phone like I normally did. That morning my roommate and I were woken up by a call from a friend purely because of my mistake. Since then, I treat my phone like a landline.

Every Tuesday before I check for ICS update.
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everyday about 6~7 times.
yea it's not a windows but
reboot is not bad way to manage devices
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