Exhibit 4G comes with 2.3. Vibrant peeps, time to start up #NeverAgain
Yup the time has come once again. Let the war begin. I mean the nagging to Samsung.
Saw krylon360's post on twitter about the exhibit and I was in aww because that phone is a low end phone with gingerbread. Well not to low end.
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Yup. We need to do act now, we're loosing a lot of vibrant peeps here.
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Samsung screws us over and over, and yet people still want to buy the SGSII. Blows my mind. Or maybe T-mobile is the real issue.
Either way I'm in... lets get #neveragain going with samsung and t-mobile.
Someone post the twitter/facebook accounts for samsung and tmo please
thanks!
SamsungVibrant said:
Samsung screws us over and over, and yet people still want to buy the SGSII. Blows my mind. Or maybe T-mobile is the real issue.
Either way I'm in... lets get #neveragain going with samsung and t-mobile.
Someone post the twitter/facebook accounts for samsung and tmo please
thanks!
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Samsung is fine, all US carriers suck. I'm in for the movement
boo.
Guess my PR wife was right that I needed to make "#NeverAgain" mine before I lost it.
Whats "#NeverAgain" ?
s15274n said:
boo.
Guess my PR wife was right that I needed to make "#NeverAgain" mine before I lost it.
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Yeah, she was definitely right.
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I never really stopped #NeverAgain-ing in the first place. We all hope they learned from their mistakes, but were the ones who haven't learned. Sensation here I come!
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I fail to see how they are screwing us over. They release a new phone with the latest Android, as they should. They are updating the Galaxy S line to 2.3, including the Vibrant. Its already an official release in Europe. Some of you think its late, but how many old handsets have been updated to official 2.3 across all brands? Galaxy S/Vibrant will be one of the few.
So can someone explain to me how we are getting shafted? Did Samsung announce that we are not gonna get Gingerbread?
^ you are being to logical
The original #NeverAgain that I got going was under much different circumstances, I agree. It is too soon. Then again, I think manufacturers/providers/Google need to know the demand of the consumer.
Trying to sell new phones (by slow updates), trying to save money (no OTA updates), etc... those are wrong reasons. I hate custom UI's for the reason they are used as excuses for slow/no delays too.
Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
TheSneakerWhore said:
Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
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Only 4% of android phones had Gingerbread as of a month ago.
Give it some time, it will come. Froyo was deserved, but Gingerbread is a gift.
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Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
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no. I just dont appreciate samsung going for the money making route over customer satisfaction. Bush league. Bush
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I don't understand why it's necessary to make this an issue to boycott anyone. Everyone should know fragmentation has been one of the biggest issues on android.
If the argument you're making is valid Samsung should charge more for their phones. Otherwise you should reevaluate your valuation of the phone when you purchase it.
If price you paid = $(vibrant2.2)
And
$(vibrant2.2) < $(vibrant2.2) + $(vibrant2.3 in the future)
Then we all got what we paid for, if not then you should reconsider what you expect from android.
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no. I just dont appreciate samsung going for the money making route over customer satisfaction. Bush league. Bush
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But how are they? They've updated us to Froyo like we asked and now the whole Galaxy S line will be updated to Gingerbread. Please show me all the other OEMs devices that have actually seen 2 major updates. Hardly any.
If you people would take a look around you'd not only see that as of late Samsung has been getting better, but almost every other OEM is treating their customers worse.
I can't wait for 2.3 either, but this isn't exactly NeverAgain material... Put down the pitchforks and wipe your tears now please.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't never again mean never again?
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I don't understand why it's necessary to make this an issue to boycott anyone. Everyone should know fragmentation has been one of the biggest issues on android.
If the argument you're making is valid Samsung should charge more for their phones. Otherwise you should reevaluate your valuation of the phone when you purchase it.
If price you paid = $(vibrant2.2)
And
$(vibrant2.2) < $(vibrant2.2) + $(vibrant2.3 in the future)
Then we all got what we paid for, if not then you should reconsider what you expect from android.
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So how does HTC and motorola able to charge the same as samsung yet provide all the needed updates? The Evo is already getting or gotten 2.3, most of the droids are getting it as well....doesnt sound like a problem with price like you put it, more like a problem with manufacturer, thats why my next handset will be from someone else.
My old crappy MyTouch 3g had froyo months before my Vibrant (which was sold with the promise of froyo in a couple of months or so) every did. BTW the MyTouch did not have froyo promised, hell not even eclair was promised
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20037371-251.html
Now what gets me is that the Nexus S (90% the same phone as the vibrant) has had gingerbread since 2010, we are now getting froyo
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So how does HTC and motorola able to charge the same as samsung yet provide all the needed updates? The Evo is already getting or gotten 2.3, most of the droids are getting it as well....doesnt sound like a problem with price like you put it, more like a problem with manufacturer, thats why my next handset will be from someone else.
My old crappy MyTouch 3g had froyo months before my Vibrant (which was sold with the promise of froyo in a couple of months or so) every did. BTW the MyTouch did not have froyo promised, hell not even eclair was promised
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20037371-251.html
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Might be because of the fact that Motorola Droid's are limited to only Verizon and the Evo's are only on Sprint? Samsung has different versions of the Galaxy S across all the carriers.
Related
assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
“Such a review will be based on various factors including, without limitation, the overall effect of such Update to Samsung products, the system requirements, the structural limitations, and the level of cooperation from the component suppliers and the software licensors”.
“If Samsung decides to make the Update available to the users after such consideration, Samsung will use its efforts to develop such Update, which may be released to the users upon successful completion of such development”.
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are you kidding me..its the same damn device (EDIT: as in the other galaxy s phones)
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assuming this is true
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
There standpoint on Gingerbread for their flagship phone, basically a big F U to their customers
are you kidding me..its the same damn devices
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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Dont forget landscape mode for the keyboard, led light too....
Well oh well eventually we will get gingerbread on our devices and if not im sure ill have a new phone next year anyway so froyo will hold me over til then...
In my opinion this is a conflicting report with what that one leak tweeter/w/e he was said. Samsung didn't say no, they basically said "Um, well, uh maybe?" so it has, at least in mind, just as little credibility as some guy saying we were getting it. Just have to wait and see.
This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
davidrules7778 said:
Here we go with the rumors just like the date of the release of the epic....
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i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas
spdwiz18 said:
i agree it all is still rumor, but it doesnt hurt to have some hope...
merry christmas
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Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
1) Let down horribly - No X
or
2) Content - X
Having no hope means you can be:
1) Pleasantly surprised - X
or
2) Content - No X
Hope is stupid. Its math.
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung
samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
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Having hope means you can either be:
Hope for X
1) Let down horribly - No X
or
2) Content - X
Having no hope means you can be:
1) Pleasantly surprised - X
or
2) Content - No X
Hope is stupid. Its math.
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wow.... thats optimism for you...
noobnl said:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kern...ng.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/2.6.35-samsung
samsung already created a gingerbread kernel 2.6.35...
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Likely for the nexus s?
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While I am not siding with them - they really aren't the same devices. If they were we could easily port vibrant and captivate roms. There is clearly work that has to go into each variant of the SGS line. It would probably make the LEAST amount of sense for the Epic to not get 2.3 officially. Primarily because of its 4g Radio and Front Cam - features that the others lack- even though our device is probably the most complicated to get working right.
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But its not only our device. Theyre talking about their whole galaxy s line. Samsung says we will think about it, while htc says we're working on it.
I love my phone but damn you samsung. If only htc had super amoled screens, and put decent camera sensors in their phones..I'm really considering that HTC Knight
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
live2ride96 said:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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LOL. I thought it would at least be a few days after Froyo's release before we got these posts about Gingerbread.
live2ride96 said:
This may very well be the last straw that makes me sell my Epic. While I realize that Samsung doesn't owe me anything, until people quit buying their phones, they'll keep jerking us around. HTC, here I come.
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lol trading my epic for an evo this weekend!
I have 2 people wanting to trade their Evo for my epic. Samsung doesn't support their products as well as HTC, and it sucks. For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
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For some reason, I think they would rather put out new phones with Gingerbread and make you buy the, than give you an upgrade.
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Uh, Let me take a wild guess. Could it be . . . . . . for PROFIT??
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This will help....
http://www.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-gingerbread
this is conflicting
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I like the confidence of this link
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ill never buy samsung again
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Yes, yes, for profit. We all get that they're in the business of selling phones, not giving free updates. That's why I read an interesting blog about paying for OS updates a little while back. I'd gladly pay a few bucks to get honeycomb or ice cream on a 6 month to year old phone and to have them out in a timely fashion. Then Samsung and all the other manufacturers would have an incentive to actually put out updates for phones as well.
Same old song and dance...
http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets
lol this is whats holding them up according to them "complexity/unique functionality"... i couldnt wait any longer so i rooted yesterday and installed nero v3..... im glad i did it.
I've been running the leaks and couldn't be happier. Why wouldn't they make all Galaxy S devices the same besides the obvious radios for different carriers. Why not just release one version of the phone so the complexity and unique functionality would not be an issue?
I am also putting some blame on the carriers for molesting the phones with their crap too.
Ok ....so all the blame going on between Samsung & T-Mobile is really all Samsung holding it up???
i think the carriers wanted different versions of the phone too. I guess to set themselves apart from each other....
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i think the carriers wanted different versions of the phone too. I guess to set themselves apart from each other....
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Well, keep the aesthetics different but leave the internal system the same (well minus the Epic since it has a hardware keyboard), they dug their own grave in this department.
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Ok ....so all the blame going on between Samsung & T-Mobile is really all Samsung holding it up???
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its really hasnt be samsung all along.. its still up to the carriers to approve the software.
haha, android 2.2 is so last year, 2.3 should be the one they are worried about
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haha, android 2.2 is so last year, 2.3 should be the one they are worried about
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Knowing Samsung, lets not get ahead of our selves..low expectations are key to happiness here.
At the rate sammy is going we will all be due for a phone upgrade before we even see 2.3 but knowing them they won't support it cause they want you to buy the nexus s.
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Haha, yall hoping to see a Vibrant running 2.3 in your hand better forget Sammy & hope that Gbread proof morphs into a daily driver instead
Nero v3 + XDA app = possimpostability
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At the rate sammy is going we will all be due for a phone upgrade before we even see 2.3 but knowing them they won't support it cause they want you to buy the nexus s.
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i wouldnt say samsung wants consumers the nexus s.... IMO i dont think samsung even cares abt nexus s sales as subsidies and carrier variety is what really average consumers care about. plus samsung makes a bunch of money doing other things than just smart phone.
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its really hasnt be samsung all along.. its still up to the carriers to approve the software.
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Yeah, the software provided by Samsung. If Samsung's build is buggy, the carrier obviously can't approve it.
I don't know why people keep blaming the carriers. While they may insist on certain programs or functionality, the software is ultimately Samsung's responsibility.
Froyo is starting to sound like "Wolf" to me.
No way to blame the carriers here. If it was there fault, how do you explain that all other similar class phones have had froyo for 3-4 months already? How'd those all get approved?
It's all on samsung here.
They have been saying next week for over six months.....their top selling device has become less of a priority that's all there is to it.
Vibrant + Axura 2.2.5.5 + SuperIO Kernel + JL1 Modem
You guys are getting that the froyo has to be an update and not a flash. There can't be any mistakes.
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couped said:
You guys are getting that the froyo has to be an update and not a flash. There can't be any mistakes.
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And those are different how...?
-bZj
tornado76 said:
I've been running the leaks and couldn't be happier. Why wouldn't they make all Galaxy S devices the same besides the obvious radios for different carriers. Why not just release one version of the phone so the complexity and unique functionality would not be an issue?
I am also putting some blame on the carriers for molesting the phones with their crap too.
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Speaking of not all being the same.. I have gotten at least seven people to also buy Galaxy phones, but most are with Verizon or AT&T. This past Friday it really sucked that my Verizon friends were able to take lots of pictures inside of the dueling piano bar because of the flash and I couldn't do ****.
GenTsoChkn said:
Speaking of not all being the same.. I have gotten at least seven people to also buy Galaxy phones, but most are with Verizon or AT&T. This past Friday it really sucked that my Verizon friends were able to take lots of pictures inside of the dueling piano bar because of the flash and I couldn't do ****.
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If a flash was important to you then why did you knowingly buy a phone that didn't have one? You can't blame TMO or Samsung for a poor purchase decision.
Sh*t! Delete me.
Naughty naughty...
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Wtf did I miss damn...
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"epic 4g official 2.2 update is out" ..
Ha! That'll be the day...
Don't tease me!
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Fail
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Not now..
Why didn't you wait till April 1st?
Is this a dream.... oh nevermind he had a typo.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
Ha, u can edit the name of the thread, still
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Has there been any news on this? I mean its going to be February tomorrow, and I was just wondering where the hell all this furor over the delayed updates went. Sprint hasn't really said anything concrete, neither has Samsung so I'm honestly pretty pissed...
I sprint tech told me samsung still have the froyo and sprint haven't received it yet.. He states we was one of the testers and have no ideal of a release date cause sprint doesn't haven't anything to test yet ... This was a few days ago
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Sprint has it and it works Great. They are just trying to figure out a way to charge ALL their customers and extra 10.00 per month to get it, even if you don't have an Android Phone.
They've already annoucned that they're going to begin doing that haha.
Seriously though, where did all teh furor over this go? I remember a few weeks ago people were going crazy over this, and I haven't heard a single mention of it as of yet...
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They've already annoucned that they're going to begin doing that haha.
Seriously though, where did all teh furor over this go? I remember a few weeks ago people were going crazy over this, and I haven't heard a single mention of it as of yet...
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I think everyone has given up on ranting.
Welcome to Rule #1 of Big Business.
"Ignore a problem long enough and it will go away."
That's how I got rid of my annoying ex-girlfriend too. It's foolproof.
nyclio said:
Welcome to Rule #1 of Big Business.
"Ignore a problem long enough and it will go away."
That's how I got rid of my annoying ex-girlfriend too. It's foolproof.
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Yes. Customer will go away and give money to someone else.
I used to work in collections. One often repeated mantra of collections was "If they're yelling, you're still on the right track to get paid." If they stopped yelling, they no longer cared. In business, it is a bad sign if complaints grind to a halt, as it likely indicates an upcoming exodus of customers.
I probably won't leave Sprint, but in spite of how much I enjoy the Epic as it is, the fact that it is taking so long to be able to enjoy the Epic as it could be will likely have me looking at LG and/or HTC phones next time around.
Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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lepapirriky said:
Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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That's where I am.... mostly happy with DK28 and the custom roms. I'll be considering HTC next time... it's a shame the EVO was so damn slow compared to the SGS series because that would have been a decent competitor.
lepapirriky said:
Same here, I like sprint but I'll no longer buy samsung phones anymore because this sucks big time. I no longer care for an update, it will come when it comes I'm just waiting 1 yr goes by to purchase another phone and more likely will be a HTC, I love their keyboards.
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My last phone was a TP2. It shipped with WM 6.1 but 6.5 was released shortly after the phone was released. It took about 6 months for Sprint and HTC to release 6.5, and the whole time people were pissing and moaning about it on all the boards. Plus, many users (includinng me) had screens that failed in the first year. It aint any better in the HTC world.
Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
/10 char
I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
Negativity in 3.....2......1............
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I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
Top Nurse said:
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Seriously. Everytime I open up my xda app all I see is Ginger this Ginger that..for every phone but ours. Who else is gets annoyed by this? I know it makes me cringe everytime!
Of course no blame goes to our devs who are fantastic. I applaud them for doing what they have done with Sammy's seemingly awful coding (good luck Kaos!) Wish they spent as much time and money on their software as they do on hardware! (which consequently is brilliant!)
End late night rant.
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I know it sucks! But by the sounds of it we might get Froyo tomorrow...Not getting my hopes up. I wish Samsung/VZW would update the fascinate from 2.1 to 2.3.3
I don't mind honestly... Just more of a reason for me to get an iPhone
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I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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^^^^^^
good day.
Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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Yes we were told we would get the froyo in a couple of months but now almost a year has passed.
It doesn't help the fact that international sgs just got the official gingerbread.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
Nope, it sure isn't. Remember...I am always watching....
Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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Electrodeath0 said:
I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I think the point here is that there never is any promise or guarantee of that support and I'm sorry but a sales person's word is no indication by any means. When we buy our phones we buy them as they are. To gripe about Samsung or Verizon's lack of promptness is ignorant and really annoying after seeing it so much. Normally you can trust the talented developers here to do better work anyway. The best approach is to wait patiently and support them in anyway you can whether it be logcats or donations.
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Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
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This is my first Android phone (I'd previously been on an old dumb phone made by Samsung, and it'd been reliable the for all the years), and the reps said that Froyo was coming 'soon', and Samsung had already began rolling Froyo out for the Samsung Galaxy S in Europe a few weeks before- I figured it'd be at most a few weeks, not realizing that 'Galaxy S' did not include any of the phones sold in the US!
I was also fooled about the quality of the GPS, when I was first testing it out, I always thought it locked instantly, because I was always around wifi (and Google's Location services have wifi routers geolocated down fairly well). And when I wasn't around WiFi, I saw the big blue circle and assumed that was the GPS just slowly loading, not Verizon's cellular triangulation doing all the work while the GPS was just robbing my battery and doing nothing with it.
At the time, I was hesitant to go with Android. I knew that the devices were generally fairly low quality, while getting slow updates... but the iPhone hadn't been announced on Verizon, and I wanted to do application development, which is massively cheaper to get into on Android than the iPhone ($25 vs $100 + a mac).
Next device will be from a reputable manufacturer, I've learned my lesson.
I know what phone I bought. Thanks for your concern though. Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
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I'm not complaining at all, in fact I don't see one word in the OP that looks like a complaint. Just asking a simple question if other people cry a bit inside when they see gingerbread in the "latest" category all the time.. excluding our phone.
As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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zskate311 said:
As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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I don't think there's anyone who would disagree with this. It's honestly disappointing how much more talented the devs seem to be when compared to Samsung's team. Good for the devs but you'd think a multi-billion dollar company could hire some better programmers.
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We are finally getting sources for froyo, and now you are already complaining that we don't have gingerbread???
Sheesh.
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Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
Kevin Gossett said:
Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
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simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16730&news=Google+Android+OS+2.2+Samsung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
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I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...sung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
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That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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Electrodeath0 said:
I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I agree with you, but my point to the OP is, did anyone tell you the fascinate would get 2.3? I agree that they had a press release when the phone released about 2.2, but I have not heard anyone at samsung say anything about a fascinate getting 2.3. Would it be nice, ya. But does samsung have some moral resposibility to make non critical updates to the phone? No. I will never argue the froyo point, I was speaking in generalities.
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I think you accidentally a word
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times_infinity said:
That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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How does this hurt my point? No matter how old an article is a promise is a promise. And I'm sorry I didn't spend the time to find an article with a more acceptable time table.
Also in regards to gingerbread, Sammy did say that the "entire" galaxy line would be updated to android 2.3
I can find that article as well if you really need it
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