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[Q] front facing camera or led light

Have any of you guys noticed on the front of the Venue pro in the top right there are two circles? You need to put the phone at the right angle but they are definitely there. Could these possibly be for something more than just sitting there? I'm saying this because I just got the phone the other day and I was stupid and didn't try the SIM out until I was home and now I have to wait a few days to go back because there is so much snow at my house so I've just been messing with it. I typed this all on the onscreen keyboard so I'm just becoming more and more convinced that I don't need a physical keyboard with wp7 lol. The hd7 has the storage space I want but the Dell has the screen I want! What is man to do...

Yea. Its a 3d camera. And they shipping right now. Hurry
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The unit has neither a front facing camera or a notification LED light. Those are both just sensors (proximity and one for the auto brightness).
Though I do like the 3d camera idea..

i think it is sensor like HD2 had, it turn off screen in call when you put your face next phone in a call, it turn off screen, so you dont activate other applications.

ajftl said:
Yea. Its a 3d camera. And they shipping right now. Hurry
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If you can't be helpful please, at least don't post these snide remarks.
Thank you

It is an IR LED. If I point it towards my media center IR reciever it flashes about once a second

Epic Rant

This rant is not about the current Epic phone. I love this phone, so I don't really have much to complain about, other than my charger port going out after over a year of use. This isn't a bad number though, considering I had to replace my HTC Touch Pro 5 times within a year due to screen issues...
No, this is not a rant about the current Epic, but a rant about the Epic Touch. Maybe not so much the Epic Touch alone, but the manufacturers and their inability to keep things consistent. They come out with new phones with tons of upgrades in hardware. That's great! What I don't like is when they take features away. This is why I'm doubting I will ever jump to the Touch...
It's not the lack of slide-out keyboard I hate. I waited for the Epic to come out solely for this feature, but find with Swype, I never use it. No, it's the one tiny overlooked feature that I use quite often on my Epic. The dedicated shutter button for the camera!!! Seriously! Why take that away??? You make all of these changes to the hardware that make it a far superior phone, but you take away something as simple as this that has a huge benefit push? ARGH!
Has anyone else found themselves loving new phones that come out, but deciding not to because of that ONE little feature that you refuse to lose?
Ok, end of rant.

yes ... i hate that my nexus doesnt have a camera button or a led light... even though bln makes up for the led i have to press the screen to take a picture and sometimes its easy to move when touching the screen

No camera button is a *****
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Seriously! I would upgrade to the Epic Touch, I really would, if it had that freakin camera button. Everything else about that phone is sexy! They are losing business from at least me just because of something that should be so basic in all phones at this point. Pressing the screen is a pain in the butt, especially when turning it around to take a picture of yourself with the back camera for quality and flash purposes. I've become a pro at this with my Epic.

gtuansdiamm said:
No camera button is a *****
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How do you guys manually focus with the on screen controls? I always use my two stage camera button
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I've always found that it works pretty well on it's own when I need to take a self group photo. I guess I could always get someone else to take the pictures, but it's just more of an annoyance than anything else. lol

The phone focuses so fast and the shutter speed is speedy as well. I haven't taken a blurry pic yet. I use Swipe Pad from the Market and set the camera as one of the 12 apps so its actually really fast and easy to open the camera.
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Camera button is nice, but I can do without it if it makes for a slimmer sexier device.
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you just tap the screen to focus and hit the button to take the picture. I hate the hard button personally because when i press it the camera always moves. But the on screen one can take a very light tap and nothing moves. so I actually never use the hardware button.

That's fine. On the Epic, you have that option. My point is, they took away a very basic and simple feature from a phone needlessly. Now you no longer have the option.

goblue30093 said:
you just tap the screen to focus and hit the button to take the picture. I hate the hard button personally because when i press it the camera always moves. But the on screen one can take a very light tap and nothing moves. so I actually never use the hardware button.
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Same here. I only ever use the camera button to turn the camera on. Touch screen focus you can actually pick the focal point of the picture other than dead center which I like.

Xperia Play Notification LED + Sanded Sides [little MOD](hardware)

I speak portuguese, but you dont need to understand everything.... the only thig that i says that is important is that the side with the triggers was just done and that after a day it would loses its white marks and became like the other
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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I'm the kind of guy that has no limits, if I something cool, I keep doing it till it finishes bad... but not this time!! I sanded down the side that has no triggers and it looks like a very dark wood with a lovely texture on it... have to fell it...
Tip. Try to do it all ways in the same direction, along the side so that you have these tiny lines right. Or use a very smooth(?) /for more delicate things sand paper and don't put any pressure on it...
Pics from the update here
https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B3UKRg_ISzYKcFJUTXBUN09WOG8/edit
Sorry because I have to accept... can't make it public somehow.... just ask permit ion and I'll give you as fast as I can...
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Wow that looks hardcore. I'm gonna try it cause I have the same issue too

That's so badass, I'm filing mine down right now even though my button works fine. It's looking awesome
I can't imagine why they covered up most of the LED to begin with...

I'm going to do that. I sanded down my other buttons so they're now black. Never thought to do the power button.
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How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.

So if I sand down my power button it will make it do that? GENIUS. I never thought of that. Time to go find a nail filer.

Sweet. Going to try this in a few

I just tried it out, and the power button felt a bit weird so I licked my finger and got it a little wet, but with the case on you don't even feel it. But my god, it looks 100x better. Thank you dude.

Totally awesome. Made my other buttons black b4. Didn't think about power either. Awesome now I can actually see my notification light
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Beautiful!
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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The surface between the back of the button and the back cover...
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Glad you guys liked!
I'll sand the buttons because they re wearing off anyway... didn't think of that...
Have any one though about the sides of the device, make it all black? From like the first mouth the paint/metal effect has came out a little... I'll do that when I get home
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LordBattleBeard said:
How can filing down the surface of a button make any difference to its responsiveness? surely the problem lies beneath the button with the connector?
I agree with you on the build quality. My power button hasn't gone yet but its probably on its way out. It didn't work at all a couple of days ago until I kept pressing it and luckily went back to normal normal responsiveness after that, can't be a good sign though. That and the R trigger on my device has lost its springiness, it goes down with little to no effort now. Still raises back to the surface so I suppose I should count myself lucky.
Looks cool anyway and might make it so the LED light can actually be seen in normal circumstances.
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I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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MilkyJoePD said:
I think the R button loses its springiness because of the way the phone is held. At least when I hold it its usually being pressed.
To get back on topic, how is the surface of the power button when sanded?
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Not to go off topic again but I had to replace the back cover underneath the battery. As the triggers started to get sticky and not move as they looked liked they were pressed all the way down. So bought a new backing and bang... works like like new. Now.... back to our regular scheduled topic on hand.
I did this last night... so much nicer to finally see the danger led as the whole button rather then what looks like a pin needle
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leetxperia said:
What do you mean sanded down? I dont understand English much. Will the sleep button work when i mod it?
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Use something like this
You can find this on nail cutter or swiss army multipurpose knife. Gently scrub it on your power button. You can use sand paper also which you can find it on any hardware store, but I don't prefer sand paper because the sand will come off and run into your device

360porcento said:
I have my play for a year now and it is in pretty bad state.... the construction quality is not the best...
and what more I care about is the power button because it is pretty much gone, I'm using apps to lock the screen and the home button to unlock...
found out that some one used a nail file to fix it, so I tried and it was better for the first 3 presses.... I noticed that the light was passing though the part I sanded down, so I did the same on the whole button.
I think It looks pretty cool and all the button lights up and catches more attention..
when its off, it is ice/transparent with the power icon in the middle...
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Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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I had the same crack as well
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Lol that does look cool!
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Growling Clover said:
Is that a crack in your back plate by the power button? (White line in first pic)
Just wondering as I have a crack on mine in the exact same place
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Lol... I haven't noticed it before 0.o yep, its a little crack.... I got I big one on the aperture where you put the your nail to take the back cover... do you have that one too?
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If only HTC would place that power button on the side...

... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.

Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.

MillyMoo106 said:
Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.
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Holy crap, seriously? So a simple button remap should work? Anyone any idea how the button map files should be modified to make this work.. (Long time out of the low level customization business )

I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.

shox22 said:
I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.
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Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL

appelflap said:
... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.
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The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.

NextNexus said:
The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.
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It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.

Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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Seriously? I've been wishing they'd do this for years. It's a universal (programmable) remote too so I can do my TV, Stereo (which I actually use a lot) and Roku box. It's a great feature.
Plus, if I'm sitting down, especially on a couch, I usually have already pulled my phone out of my pocket.

Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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I wonder if the issue is really just hypothetical, as in the people who object don't have their One yet. I guess I'm lucky cause I had a Nokia and an iPhone before this so I've had the button on the top for several years. I'm concerned too about how tall the phone is but I have a case already and it isn't a problem to shift the phone slightly to get my finger up there (I have small hands).
That, the battery and the MicroSD card are non issues for me, but then I might be in the minority too. I've never been more excited to own or impressed with the design of a phone. In fact it's a little embarrassing how hard it is to wait two weeks.

appelflap said:
Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL
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It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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lorddart said:
It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.

anit77 said:
A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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We need a lot of these threads. All over the internet, these threads. Can't have enough of them.

lorddart said:
It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Oh.. they didn't. Nevertheless, always a major reason why I didn't want a HTC.
Anyway, let's do some button remap magic .. yay.

Product F(RED) said:
Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.
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Yeah, that depends I guess on individual. Having owned htc phones and an ipod, and being right handed I prefer it be on the right side... So probably more about hand size. I've tried to hit the top left of my current phone as if it was the htc one to see the comfort... Doesn't work for me
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Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?

appelflap said:
Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?
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You dont need soff for button remap

I have galaxy tab 2 , always hitting power button when trying to hit volume up , most stupid thing ever , power button should be on top
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shox22 said:
You dont need soff for button remap
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Really? Okay great... Pretty long time ago that I have played with HTC devices. But anyway, this is the problem. I have root, can modify files in the system directory. But all those changes are undone when rebooting the devices, i.e. the changes are not permanent. Because the keymap files are loaded when booting the device there's really no way to change anything.
Anyone? Non permanent write access ?

Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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That's exactly what I thought but when I actually tried it I got the coolest feeling ever it's gimmicky but no joke it's funnier than most apps I've ever used. Either that or I am easily amused plus I have my phone out when I watch tv anyway so it comes in quite handy
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Power button too recessed

I might be in the minority as couldn't find much info on this...
Not only the power btn is placed on top thus less easy to get to while using one hand, but is simply too recessed on my device. I got it 3 days ago, it is almost perfect quality build wise, but it'll take me much more to get used to this feature.
I have to press really hard, and even then has to be perfectly centered, I find it easier keeping the phone in my right hand or else have to use both hands for this.
Trust me really bad choice having placed this button this way. Hope they will change it next iteration.
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Flash custom ROM, volume or HTC logo to wake, problem solved.
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That might be the way..
I hope the HTC logo hack will be made available for unlocked stock though.
In the meantime I am adjusting to it I guess, set up higher inactivity timeout, when done with it just let the timeout expire, etc.
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Why give a free pass for QC issues? Return it and get another.

PapaRhino said:
Flash custom ROM, volume or HTC logo to wake, problem solved.
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Which ROM hás the ability to use HTC logo?
That's awesome. But wouldn't that make the phone turn on every time you have it in your pocket?

My button is slightly recessed or only raised a bit above the phone, but I find it very easy to press and I can press anywhere on the button. If I were op, I would definitely exchange it or just simply return it, you only bought it a few days ago right?
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htc logo? how?

ksarius said:
Which ROM hás the ability to use HTC logo?
That's awesome. But wouldn't that make the phone turn on every time you have it in your pocket?
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htc logo? how?
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tbalden's kernel -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244620

Replace it! I just received my new device and the difference is staggering. I can actually hear the clickity clack of the button now. Also other defects are gone (overhang)

Thanks for your replies.
I was trying to get a pic of this but giving up.. Really tricky.
I will go to some stores holding the demo, see how it compares. Until then, I got a better idea how to explain this: holding my phone while typing this, I swipe my fingernail fro right to left over the power btn, no resistance, flush with body. Doing the same thing, the other way round, I meet a very slight resistance, ie the left corner is slightly raised, maybe 1mm. Is this normal?
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millicent said:
Thanks for your replies.
I was trying to get a pic of this but giving up.. Really tricky.
I will go to some stores holding the demo, see how it compares. Until then, I got a better idea how to explain this: holding my phone while typing this, I swipe my fingernail fro right to left over the power btn, no resistance, flush with body. Doing the same thing, the other way round, I meet a very slight resistance, ie the left corner is slightly raised, maybe 1mm. Is this normal?
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Mine seems to be slightly raised on the left side also, but I don't have as much trouble as you are having. I cant press it very well from the right side though. Maybe the IR blaster is in the right and the actual button is on the left? Needs more info I guess.

explode1991 said:
Mine seems to be slightly raised on the left side also, but I don't have as much trouble as you are having. I cant press it very well from the right side though. Maybe the IR blaster is in the right and the actual button is on the left? Needs more info I guess.
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Mine is slightly raised but it has a clicky noise to it.. normal? I wish the button was more raised.
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Another reason to root. You can install a number of different kernels that allow you the ability to wake and put the device to sleep without using the power button.

Reviews have complained about the button being recessed its downright horrible thing from HTC to not think through such an important thing even when they seem to care so much about the little details of the phone. And no using some custom ROM/kernel is not the right solution at all.
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Exactly same here less than 1 mm extended and left is slite up and right side is sink in dip or exactly flush or levelled with surface this is my 3rd HTC one 1st 3rd got exactly same button only 2nd one has acceptable but not perfect
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Mine is exactly the same. Power button is flush to the device with no resistance if i wipe my finger across, and the left side of the button is less than a mm higher than the phone. I bought a case it its near impossible to power on the device without really digging in. I went in store for them to have a look at it but they practically laughed and smirked at one another and said they aren't going to fix it as the button still works. They wouldn't even get another handset out to compare the two buttons. Looks like i'll have to put up with it. Either that or go out my way to visit another store.

Is there anybodyr report better buttton after replacement?
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Seen 3 demo models in as many stores today. Two of them were unfortunately showing similar recessed buttons. Only one had a slightly, maybe 1mm, raised button, however it felt much better, much easier to press.
For this reason only I guess I am going to ask for a replacement next week.
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As an aside, all the dummies on display had 'normal' raised power buttons, maybe even 3 mm or more.
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onlinejobwork said:
Is there anybodyr report better buttton after replacement?
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Mine is perfect after my first replacement. I'm on Sprint btw and complained specifically about the button. The overhang was gone as well but the second device still has a bit of a gap. Nothing major.