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Hi all...
I've been getting a lot of suspicious errors recently (force closes and app shortcut names disappearing) and I'd like to go from apps2sd back to just a normal setup with my apps on the internal phone storage.
Can somebody please verify that the instructions here are up to date? I'm a little nervous about wiping my data (or bricking my phone).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Apps2SD
Also, can somebody tell me whether doing this will wipe out the (single) app I paid for from the Marketplace? If so, can I redownload it, or will I need to pay for it a second time?
I originally got apps2sd set up by using the recovery ROM prior to flashing Modaco's custom ROM v1.1.
The easiest thing to do would be to load the new RA 1.5.1 recovery image.
Then boot into it.
Go to Partiton SD
Select FAT EXT3 SWAP
and then set the partition sizes of EXT3 and SWAP to 0
Is there a reason you want to do this???
This runs a very very minimal chances of bricking your phone. The other method on that Wiki page has more potential to get you in trouble.
Did see the market place question.
There is a method laying around somewhere to copy all of your apps back to the phone instead of loosing them. Restoring a Nandroid backup would likly put them all back into the /apps/ directory sd card or not. apps2sd just changes the location of that directory really.
But the market does keep track of your google account and what apps you purchase, you wont have to re purchase (maybe on a totaly new handset).
hope my jiberish has made sense
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At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
mkhopper said:
At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
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The possibilities of bricking the phone are very slim, but they still exist. If a phone is truly a brick, not even RUU can help. RUU has to be able to detect the phone is there in Windows, so if its beyond that RUU is useless.
Nothing to worry about as long as follow the *usually* very well written step by steps across the interweb.
If it makes you feel any better I have only heard of one or two people to brick the Hero. Most things are recoverable.
Yeah, sorry, I didn't expect it would brick the phone so much as badly mess it up - like if it expects to run apps from the SD card and they aren't there I could see the phone being tough to use as a phone, but it wouldn't really be "bricked" in the sense of not responding to user input at all.
As far as why I want to do this, I haven't really seen a huge need for apps2sd yet, and when I was recently helping an app developer to debug their app it was just one more weird variable that seemed like a possible source of problems. I'm also hoping to start developing apps myself soon, so having a more vanilla phone seems like a good idea. (I also was influenced by the Fresh ROM apps2sd rant, to be honest.)
Anyhow, thanks for your replies. I'll probably repartition the card from RUU and then restore from Nandroid at that point. Will a repartition wipe the card filesystems out, or is the partitioner smart enough to preserve the existing data?
What I did is RUUed back to 1.2, OTA updated to 1.6
Flashed to the 1.5.1 image
(At this point I went to mess with the partitions and there was no ext)
Flashed to Fresh 1.0
Hi guys. May i know what's the benefit of rooting a phone? Still noob on this
Btw, how to install those application downloaded from Market into Memory card eh? I found that the internal memory is getting smaller until not enuf to install tons of things already
I know app like angry birds can move to SD.
Hope to get some answer and thanks
ADDON: Mine now running 2.1 which updated around end of last month.
The Advantages are:
- Apps2SD
- Tethering (Wifi/USB/Bluetooth)
And basically this are the most important advantages if you get root on Android 2.1
But from what i read from the android dev forum, it seems that 2.1 still unable to get root, right?
You can also
- Remove pre-installed apps and demo versions (and timescape and default home screen if you want)
- Use Titanium Backup
- Use JiT (Just in Time compiler), which is a hack that is supposed to speed up your phone quite a bit. At least I can testify to my phone being quite snappy after finally getting everything right.
Pretty much a rooted 2.1 gives you a jury-rigged but well working version of 2 of the best features from 2.2... app2sd and JiT.
You can root 2.1 if you don't mind a bit of reading and manual labor. Or that is... you can't root the one you're already running. You have to wipe your phone and install a pre-rooted 2.1 image. Details in these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876868
and/or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880576
I'd go for the latter method. The image supplied in the first version is quite customized, and may not be to everyones liking.
I advise doing quite a bit of reading through those threads if you're completely new to this. It's not hard, but it's easy to screw up and end up back at square 1. Be warned that you have to setup your phone and re-install all apps once the process is complete.... unless you made a backup with Titanium on a rooted 1.6.
All right Will try to dig out some information from the development threads
Thanks for your info, too.
This is my gf's phone which i bought her and now she complained not enuf space, haha ...
Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language
dAV84 said:
Hello every one of us
After test more roms of WP7, i have all days same problem
One time the SDCARDS runs and others not
So, i think the problem provides from MAGLDR to make the first initialisation and detection of sdcards
I view the new CLK for Android, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1114053
My problem i'm not programmer and don't can create a EXE to run CLK with a WP7 rom.
Can any of you view that?
Thanks for all cooker's rom
And excuse me my english language
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sorry, do you mean that you think its MAGLDR that stops WP installing on some SD cards?
Yes, sometimes the MAGDLR detects the SD card or not, this may be why the Rom's do not have WP7 use
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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bad idea that,
if you make the HD2 look like an HD7 to allow updates you run the very real risk of MS updating a driver or two that may screw your device, the HD2 and 7 are very similar but they do contain hardware differences and thats why we have several issues. I dont think its anything to do with magldr, the random restarts and wifi issues are a symptom of SD card issues WITHIN windows,
EvilWhiteDragon said:
If someone is interested in writing a new/modified bootloader for WP7 one should do it in such a way that Zune believes the HD2 is actually truly a HD7. This would make it a lot easier for everyone to install updates like Mango and NoDo.
Perhaps more importantly, it also allows one to backup the phone's content with the updatewp.exe trick (making zune "install" an update to the phone so it makes a backup before that and killing the update process before it starts updating).
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Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.
i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr
dAV84 said:
i never say i want a super HD2 with WP7 uncid or MS fake super mango and free apss for always.
Simple a other bootloader with can use when a sdcard fait with magldr
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i get what you mean but i have several SD cards that are not compatible with WP7 and they all work with magldr, perhaps im wrong but i just dont think that is the issue, magldr IS a big problem with battery charging and it messes up the date and time too but i dont think ive seen anything that says the SD issues are to do with MAGLDR, there is an alternative bootloader addon for android, but WP isnt supported, it does however fix the battery charging though
dAV84 I think you just have a non-compatible sd card. I had a lot of issues with my 2GB SanDisk in WP7. It was running, but it was rebooting sometimes and wp7 didn't see sd card then.
Changing sd card helped.
Behind open this topic, i read all topic about SDCARDS problems with WP7.
The problem with bandwitch and type of class
So, i tested differents version of W7 Rom's.
With 5 differents SDCARDS
And change with magldr 1.12 and 1.13,
i have 3 card no visible in magldr one time and after it's run, but's bloqued in wp7
TO 2x2GB no name class 2, 8gb kistong class 6, scandisk, 16G class 4
SO,for 1 of no name, and kistong, not view in magldr (can't change partition in service mode) but's when i insert in a WP6.5 i have view
I use the SDFormater, and the easeus to change partition to FAT.
I'm understand the problem, perhaps provides from WP7, but's not total sure for me.
People say that the most common sd card's classes that work with wp7 are 2 and 4.
I don't know what class are mine cards, both are 2GB though. SanDisk was quite a lot faster (changing apps, settings, using ui in general), but wasn't fully compatible (reboots etc) and Kingston is working fine, but slower.
I used SDFormatter as well. You don't have to change anything with Easeus unless you aim at dual-boot with SD Android. Just use SDFormatter and go on with WP7 setup.
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Ok so this magic bootloader with turn all your hardware into HD7 hardware and magically wave a super duper wand and allow you to use M$ update to install software/drivers for the HD7 on your HD2?
Are you on LSD?
How do you expect to be to install official updates meant for the HD7 if your hardware is a HD2?
Custom roms are CHANGED so they work on your hardware, DFT didnt just bung the official HD7 rom on the phone say a magic word and have WP7 running on the HD2
Please go back to sleep.
PS. Oh btw, last time I checked Zune DOES see the HD2 as the HD7, aslong as you install the reg tweak or use a rom that has it already in.
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I know they're changed in order to work, but afaik MSonly updates the new bits don't they? Because if they are it would work with things like the cert updates from april/early may.
Ofcourse if with an update the entire device is reflashed this wouldn't work. However it would still be likely that the zune backup system could work, which would help when trying new roms.
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it wouldnt matter what kind of update MS did, if you were able to update via zune and device drivers changed it would screw the device.
who knows what might get changed, radio, SPL, drivers anything could, any one of those could mess things up, that could just mean a simple reflash but if the Radio/SPL was messed with then its possible it could give you a really bad day
That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.
pharmeceutikle said:
That's why I go with reverse engineering the Zune. Its a thread that is started by me yet no one has yet to comment on. It would be nice if we can takeover something like it and make it exclusive to HD2 updating! If there was a way we can extract M$ updates and take a look what is in it and take out stuff that is not necessary, take out stuff that can be dangerous to our phone, put in updates that is for HD2, and then repackage it to Zune (Hacked or Spoofed) for end user updating. It will be effortless for end users but I bet it will be a challenge to the coders.
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Im not a software engineer but im guessing saying, let go with reverse engineering zune, is kinda like saying, yeah course, we'll just fly to Mars
After several days struggle, I'm burned out. Some of the threads here have 100+ pages, and searches yield too much outdated, irrelevant info. So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android. As you know, the choices for android rom are mind-boggling. I don't need anything fancy, just something up-to-date and stable. I would like, however, something LOUD.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Using despy1989's March 2010 guide (four years old already!), I have my HD2 booting up asking to choose Android or WM. If I choose Android, it does nothing, and defaults to WM.
I have SUNDAWG-CM7-NATIVESD rom loaded (or I think I do) in the android directory of the SD card. I'm not sure this one will meet my LOUD requirement, but since it won't load, I can't tell.
If I tap the new Android icon, it does nothing. If I tap the Android SoftReset icon, it resets but does not load Android, goes to WinMo.
If I go to File Explorer, and run haret, I get the message "failed to load file \storagecard\android\sdcard\nativesd\zimage"
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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How did you installed Android as NativeSD? Did you made a partition on your SD in EXT4 which is needed for installing the Rom? Why you want keep WM 6.5 anyway?
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AFAIK, yes it is installed as NativeSD, Did not make a partition (there was conflicting advice as to whether it was necessary. I'm not ready to go "all in" and reformat my old SD card yet.)
Want to keep WM6.5 since it is the only one that works the way I need. I've been playing with a Sony X10a with Android 1.6 and am frustrated. I specifically need LOUDNESS and customizable ringtones and notifications, and relatively easy syncing with my PC.
Thanks for your reply and any further advice.
If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working. From WM6.5 can be run only SD Android version or there is another way, much longer but it's the way how it have to be.
Install MAGLRD and Recovery, probably this will wipe the phone, make the partition on SD to Install NativeSD, Install the Rom as Native SD. Then flash back the Stock WM6.5, this will wipe MAGLRD and Recovery. Now start again Android from the folder created from the installation. It should boot.
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Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated. I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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I did this 100 times and HD2 is not that easy to brick, I never heard about bricked HD2 before. Then if you don't want to do it you will never have NativeSD on your phone because the NativeSD have to be installed on EXT4 partition, there is no other way. The only Android which you can use is from this section HERE. Put it on SD with other stuff and run with the application from WM6.5. First boot is very long.
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If you do not make a partition EXT4 it will never be installed so you just messing around that is why is not working
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
techcntr said:
Sorry. As a NOOB, what you've suggested is Greek to me and far too complicated.
I can't risking wiping the phone and bricking it.
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No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Sounds like "eating without plate"..
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Shadow_Nexus said:
No, wipe (task29) won't even touch SPL parts.
So, unless you're super duper unlucky using wipe command, you won't bricking your device.
I don't know if you're already flash HSPL.
I suggest you to flash HSPL first, then the rest is up to you..
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Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
do update for a fee
eclyptos said:
Yeah, You are right too, I forgot to mention HSPL and Radio have to be installed before do anything. :good:
It's all easy like eat ice cream.
Some Tips How To Do It HERE
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Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
techcntr said:
Do you anyone who does this sort of thing for a reasonable fee? Preferably in the SW USA?
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If you really can't do this I can assist you via Team Viewer, I will tell you what to do and what to download. Before that I have to see your bootloader. Send me a PM to arrange an appointament. I don't know nobody in USA at the moment or I don't know they are.
techcntr said:
So, I'm asking for some direction (as simple as possible, please).
I'm trying to set up my unlocked HD2 (originally T-Mo, but unlocked and using AT&T) for dual-boot, WM6.5 and Android.
What do I do next?
ANY help is much appreciated.
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Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
broken links, etc.
Szczepanik said:
Read this thread in HTC Leo: HD2 > HD2 Android > HD2 Android SD Development > [GUIDE] NativeSD for Windows Mobile (WM6.5) New Users
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1986437
Feel free to ask for help there.
Cheers
Tom
My Note 2 to you
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Been trying to follow your steps, but when I get to "Native SD Install Recovery", the links are broken. (this is the very kind of frustrations I'm having - there does not appear to be one single step-by-step guide without numerous links to invalid or outdated sites. I don't need advertising either.)
I can't find the 4EXT partition (in W8.1) in order to install anything.
So, now what?
Hi, I am quite new to the HD2, so I have a question that might sound dumb to the more experienced people reading this.
Is it possible to Dualboot WP7 and Android ? But it is not that simple, I want my phone to boot into android unless I choose WP7 instead, I currently have Android ICS on my nand so what I need is something like the SD method used to dualboot WM6.5 and Android, but the other way around and with WP7 instead of WM6.5
Thanks.
Seems like even if I wanted to singleboot WP7, I cannot, because I cannot even get a rom, all the links are broken, If any on you have a WP7.8 with all the good stuff and tweeks I probably want, please link it.
Hi Traysa, you can only boot wp7 from nand using magldr. magldr lets you choose which OS autostarts in bootsettings. So you would need to partition your sdcard and use an SD android build, or better, a NativeSd ROM.
Shame the links are down, have you checked the last few pages of the threads for re-upped links? What wp7 takes your fancy? I might have it on HDD.
Off to sleep now, night night.
Oh, and you will need an activation code for wp7, don't think Microsoft give them out now as wp7 is unsupported.
Yes, I did look for reups for about an hour, found none, I would like a WP7 rom that has lots of preinstalled apps, because WP7 is no longer supported and getting them might not be very easy. dont really care if its Mango or WP7.8, I just want it to work. And about the WP7 activation key, how would I go about getting one ?
Thanks
edit: Forgot to add, I dont want to install wm6.5, i want to go straight from android to WP7, if at all possible.
The one you say you have ( WP7.8 pdaimatejam v8.8) should work, please mail it, or link it if you still have it.
Oh and pdaimatejam put this code out, it supposedly should work TP4CF-GK479-Q9Q4Q-WPYRP-7YR4D
heres another : CRFV7-X32H9-7QF2Y-CG239-V62YR
Off to work, will look later
After a **** ton of digging, I found a Hd2O ROM from a Dutch website, will try it.
No need for the rom anymore, the rom I found is working great, is it still possible to use the market ? When I try to make an account, it gives me a connection error, what do I do about that ? Also, I didn't use the key like you said, it never asked me to use a key.
Turns out I actually need a code, the two I found dont work. How do I get one ?
Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it
Traysa said:
Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it
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Hi again Traysa, sorry been really busy in RL lately and haven't had a chance to get on xda. How are you getting on?
I posted a working link at the end of the thread you quoted for the Froyo build, but it would still be too big to install on sdcard without re-partitioning. I am pretty sure that you would lose your stuff if you repartitioned.
But see this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41706158 for a way to boot android without repartitioning, it is also superRAM as the original froyo build, and works well as long as you have only a few apps.
Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa
Traysa said:
Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa
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here you go
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850507392
unzip it, put the cm7 folder in the fat16 partition using a card reader
download either the 48 or 64mb data image
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=746010030569968509
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939834348
unzip it and place the data.ext4 file next to the system.ext4 file in cm7 folder on your sdcard
follow the instructions in the above thread to boot from magldr
report back please and good luck
Hi, this build is soo close to booting, but when I go to Ad SD and launch it, Portadroid starts porting is and then it reboots, any ideas ?
I also have an unrelated question, I recently started experimenting with the CM13 build for the HD2, but I cannot figure out, how to get files onit, when I plug it in, it shows that its an MP3 Player and I cannot put any files on it, when I put the SD card in my PC directly,I quickly figure out that Windows is not Linux and does not understand EXT4. Because the browser/the play store does not work, I cannot put any apps on it, so that its usable, I wanna put a veeeery lightweight web browser on it and aptoide, it that works.
PS : Thank you for helping me, it always makes my day !
EDIT : I figured the file transfer out, I had to switch to PTP in settings instead of MTP.