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Hello Everyone, I am currently with Tmobile and I have my G2 rooted and I love it. I use the portable hotspot feature quite a bit at work so I'm signed up for tmobiles "unlimited" internet on my phone. However Once I hit 5gb bandwidth for the month I received a text message saying that I had hit the 5gb cap for the month and for the duration of the pay period I would still have internet since I'm signed up for "unlimited" but I would have a reduced speed... Let me tell you right now its very reduced. So my first question is, do you guys have this problem? and my second question is, which service providers don't have this lame cap? My friend is on Sprint currently and he's used 12GB bandwidth so far this month and can still use his 4G speed which would be nice. So I may go with Sprint however I'd like to keep my options open so do you guys know if Verizon or At&T have the cap as well? Also what kind of phones would you guys suggest with the two? Preferably I'd like to fix the problem with Tmobile however I don't see that happening because when I went in the store they said I was already at the most internet /month.
Currently the only 2 providers that dont have a cap AFAIK are sprint and verizon. ATT used to have one, but was taken away back when the first ipad came out and now they only offer 2gb and charge you 10 dollars a gig over that. Sprint phones arent all that great right now ,probably the best phone on sprint right now IMO, would be the epic 4g. Verizons best phone is the thunderbolt, which ironically isnt for sale yet, but it will this month. they also have the iphone and some other android phones (fairly outdated at this point)
You got to remember that verizon is more expensive than t-mobile. Sprint is fairly expensive too and their 4g phones require an extra 10 dollar fee for bs reasons. If you want the unlimited data youre going to have to pony up the cash.
If i was you i would wait for the dual core phones to come to those carries, the droid bionic for verizon and who knows what for sprint.
Ps. I heard that verizon is throttling the top 5% of its users. I read it in engadget but alas, i dont have that carrier/problem so i havent looked into it.
Hope i helped a little
Edit: forgot to mention that if you want 4g you have to make sure that you are in an area that has the 4g specific for that carrier. Your friend has 4g on sprint so that means youre at least in a wimax (sprint 4g) area.
Verizon has a different 4g (LTE) that might not be in your area at this point in time.
Also sprint has 3 4g phones, t mobile has 3 and verizon has only 1 and it isnt even out yet.
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Nice break down.
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personally with the price per month my wife and i are paying for tmobile i would never leave.
best way to do it is to have 5 member family plan... cheapest way at least.
A T-Mobile tech support rep told me that he was told in a recent meeting that they were going back to the 10 gig cap. He said a date wasn't mentioned...who knows if this is true or not, I'm just sharing what I was told.
That was amazingly helpful and I have a lot to consider now. I do have it pretty nice with Tmobile right now because we have a 5 family member plan and if there is a prospect of 10gig coming out then I will probably wait it out. And if the new phones come out and I still want to change then I will. Thank you so much for your help!
There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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There is a way to defeat the throttle. I've never hit the cap myself so haven't tried it. Five year old data plan with 10gb? Limit. But for root users it involved removing 3 files from the radio? Try searching the dev threads. I do remember that T-mo was the only carrier that this would work with. The throttle takes place on your device.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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I was under the impression that method no longer worked. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Nope, my bad. I'm wrong on this one. Good luck!
Well Tmo finally saw what we were doing in data throttling and it did work realllly well..but all good things come to an end.
I have however managed to "defeat" throttling by....staying under the 5GB. Through wifi surfing. I have wifi at home and at work and those are the two places you find me . Simple.
But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
Tmo has got to smarten up. Still they're still my favorite compared to the others.
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But its a DAMN SHAME because I never rode wifi before because HDSPA is faster than wifi. Takes me twice as long to download a CM nightie on wifi.
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Your broadband connection being shared via wifi must really be slow for HSDPA to be faster. What is it, DSL?
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I agree,your broadband connection via wifi must really suck. I get an average of 13gb down & just under 3 gb up. Some day's I'll get a little over 15gb down. You should probably get a new router.
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I'm running mikfroyo 4.5, and I'm stoked about this rumor of the xoom wifi hitting sams club next month for 540. I loved the demo unit at the best buy closest to me, but of course in that one spot I didnt get 3g and I didnt bother trying 4g (pretty scarce in CT). Can anyone confirm that the sprint mobile hotspot app can give wifi to the xoom? I was reading another thread where the wifi tether app didnt so im a tad nervous.
I know the evo works with the xoom, but I use the built in cm hotspot.
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I am running the Sprint Lovers ROM on my EVO and have no issues giving WiFi to my Xoom. Cause there is no way I paying for the ridiculous data rates with Verizon, especially since I have unlimited 3G/4G through Sprint.
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I'm running mikfroyo 4.5, and I'm stoked about this rumor of the xoom wifi hitting sams club next month for 540. I loved the demo unit at the best buy closest to me, but of course in that one spot I didnt get 3g and I didnt bother trying 4g (pretty scarce in CT). Can anyone confirm that the sprint mobile hotspot app can give wifi to the xoom? I was reading another thread where the wifi tether app didnt so im a tad nervous.
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The issue using the Evo with the Xoom is the people using the Wireless Tether app, which in that case puts the Evo into 'Ad-Hoc' mode, whereas using built in tether on a AOSP ROM, for example, makes a normal 'Infrastructure' mode that the Xoom can connect to.
As I understand it, that is.
sorry someone answered this for me on the evo forum thanks..
I use fresh and setup wireless tether on 4g and the xoom flies with it.
I have been thinking for a month or so about activating my xoom instead of continue to tether it to my droid x. I found that like many, I rarely used my phone any more other than to talk on it. Plus, with verizon starting to crack down on tethering, I thought the time was right. I wasn't about to pay for two data plans, thats crazy to me.
So, I sold my droid x to a friend for $100 and went to verizon and bought an LG Octane and activated my Xoom. No more worrying about tethering and trying to get phone calls at the same time, I love it. No more worrying about wireless tether cutting in and out. No... the Octane is no where near the phone that the X is but I only use it to talk and text... and I love being able to use my xoom on the road for everything else.
Anyone else done something like this?
i too have a droid x and tether it to my wifi xoom. I would get rid of my xoom, but my kids use it to watch movies on, while i watch on my xoom. I couldnt do what you have done, as i dont need internet access that often.
I too activated my xoom. It makes it so much less an issue. I have a dx too but could NEVER give it up. I just bit the bullet and got the plan.
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I did this the other way around, I use my Xoom alot, but I got the Wifi Xoom, and to keep work and play separate - I keep all work stuff on my Samsung Epic and all the play stuff on my Xoom.
I switched also, I use the xoom as a hot spot to tether my phone when i want data on it.
It's interesting the different ways people use their phones and the xoom. I guess that's what makes Android great, the flexability. I just can't imagine paying for data on a phone and the xoom. I have to $$$, I just don't want to spend it that way. lol
I'd probably do the same if the data plans weren't so expensive. I mean 3 GB for 35 a month? Really? I currently have an Epic 4G on an unlimited plan in which I can tether 4G. It works really well. But to be honest I don't even use it that much. Most of the time I am near Wifi so using 3G makes no sense in most situations. When the LTE upgrade becomes available, I may take another look and see if it makes more sense. I love my xoom though.
Having Sprint is great because we can tether 4G and it works great. I have a WiFi Xoom and tether from my EVO Shift 4G. Perfection.
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Having Sprint is great because we can tether 4G and it works great. I have a WiFi Xoom and tether from my EVO Shift 4G. Perfection.
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Same, except with the regular Evo 4g.
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Having Sprint is great because we can tether 4G and it works great. I have a WiFi Xoom and tether from my EVO Shift 4G. Perfection.
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Yea if I had sprint I would have probably just tethered to my phone also because Sprint doesn't seem to be cracking down on it like AT&T and Verizon are. Plus, with it being 4G you don't get cut off if you received a phone call while tether. That absolutely drive me crazy.
Also, Sprint sucks in my area so I had to go with Verizon.
Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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I have never heard of anyone being penalized by Sprint for tethering with a rooted phone before but that does not mean it has not happened. I do use tethering once in a while when I am away from home and need data to my laptop. If you are not going crazy (don't run bittorrent on a tethered phone) then you are probably ok. You do have "unlimited" data (what ever that means) but if you start using more than 10GB a month you may attract attention.
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Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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Search through the threads, this question has been asked many times before and see if its worth it to you... Its worth it to alot of other members in here... So root and tether away if you like but dont over do it and enjoy or give Sprint $30 a month and dont worry about a thing... The Choice Is Yours!
i tether all the time. no issues.....so far
Yep pretty much just don't go crazy and you should be fine.
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Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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You have unlimited web surfing, email, and pictures. Running up excessive amounts of data by downloading or uploading movies, hosting video games, non-stop usage of a video camera, as well as tethering are all violations of your contract.
Sprint cares more about excessive data usage (whether you are paying for tethering or not) than who is tethering without paying for it, because too much data running through the system affects service. Tethering is just running data to your computer from your phone. They charge the $30 because if they did not, more people would use their phones as their primary internet and run up enormous amounts of data (I DON'T THINK SPRINT AGREES WITH THE 235GB CAP PER MONTH THAT COMCAST ALLOWS). The people who have been flagged by Sprint were all using large amounts of data, and quite a few were actually paying for tethering.
I tether exclusively...i download torrents, music, and everything...been doing it since June 4th 2010...no problems! Tether on friend!
I never paid the $30/month and I tether 15-20GB every month. Never had any problems with Sprint.
I also have an employee discount and only have to pay $60/month. Not bad.
I'm a light tetherer but a heavy data user. I use 6-10gb monthly and I have since I started my sprint contract 4 months ago. Just keep down your roaming as sprint allows only 300mb of off network roaming.
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It's just important to be responsible about it.
There's nothing wrong with tethering once in a while when it's necessary, there is something wrong with using it as your home internet connection and not paying the extra fee.
It's important to understand that when you abuse the system you're not just hurting us, you're hurting yourself. Why? Because you encourage Sprint to go the route of others. And if they do that, you won't have the option.
Ive EASILY tethered on 4G 100+GB since May. Ofcourse, 4G is ABSOLUTELY unlimited no matter what. I dont think they monitor 4G as much as 3G, since the 4G comes from Clear, really. I dont tether 3G much at all. But yea, tether away....just dont do anything illegal.
Durkbeef said:
Hey everyone, I just bought my EVO 4g and the main reason I bought it was because of sprints unlimited data. However, after I bought it, sprint lady tells me they charge extra for tethering. If I run cm7 and use the tethering app, will they catch me?
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Sprint store employees try to sell sprint's $30 a month hotspot and will tell you that is the only way to tether. I do not have this service, and I tether like a madman and have never been charged. I've used PDAnet, wifi tether, and the cm7 built in hot spot option. You have no need to worry, tether away.
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Sprint store employees try to sell sprint's $30 a month hotspot and will tell you that is the only way to tether. I do not have this service, and I tether like a madman and have never been charged. I've used PDAnet, wifi tether, and the cm7 built in hot spot option. You have no need to worry, tether away.
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I have tethered as well and had no issues. Mainly use it only when I need to if there isn't any wifi options when I am not at home or work.
I use a program called PDANet.
Search Android Market, Free App
If you are by 4g when you tether then knock yourself out. They don't monitor 4g at all so u can do whatever. But if you use 3g they track the amount of data but its still unlimited. Just like everyone else said. Don't go crazy with the 3g and you will be in the clear.
P.s. I tethered while out of town for a month in a very good 4g area. Easily used 40+ gigabytes of data during that month (torrents and whatnot) and nothing. No message, no extra charge. Zilch. So if your in 4g ur in the clear as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: btw I use the wireless tether app that's available in the market
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I use PDAnet and Wifi tethering..PDAnet has to versions a free version and a paid version. the free version you cant view security enabled sites..but I found a way your the paid version...but Wifi tethering is the easiest way to go!!
Use pdanet from the android market as well great app ease of use for noobs from what I hear works alot better tethering 4g than my actual time Warner providers internet access do a speed test you'll see the results if your in a decent 4g area
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If you are by 4g when you tether then knock yourself out. They don't monitor 4g at all so u can do whatever. But if you use 3g they track the amount of data but its still unlimited. Just like everyone else said. Don't go crazy with the 3g and you will be in the clear.
P.s. I tethered while out of town for a month in a very good 4g area. Easily used 40+ gigabytes of data during that month (torrents and whatnot) and nothing. No message, no extra charge. Zilch. So if your in 4g ur in the clear as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: btw I use the wireless tether app that's available in the market
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Thanks for the info, there's a wimax tower literally around the corner from my apartment, so I'm planning to use my new epic 4g touch to tether extensively, but I was worried about them scolding me I don't plan to use 3g much at all since 4g coverage is pretty good.
As many of you know att was busting users tethering. I dont really use it all that often and since all the talk about att catching people tethering, i thought i would never be able to use it ever again, IF i needed too. Some times share with the klids phones if we are mobile. They dont have data.
Ive turned it on a couple times testing. I connected the laptop to it and loaded "a" page. I havent gotton any emails yet, or ever.
I was just wondering, since this is not an att phone, and there is no tether manager, should we be able to tether without getting detected?
I thought for sure there was going to be a topic already here, but theres not???? my search didnt turn up andything!!
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As many of you know att was busting users tethering. I dont really use it all that often and since all the talk about att catching people tethering, i thought i would never be able to use it ever again, IF i needed too. Some times share with the klids phones if we are mobile. They dont have data.
Ive turned it on a couple times testing. I connected the laptop to it and loaded "a" page. I havent gotton any emails yet, or ever.
I was just wondering, since this is not an att phone, and there is no tether manager, should we be able to tether without getting detected?
I thought for sure there was going to be a topic already here, but theres not???? my search didnt turn up andything!!
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I made mine a wireless hotspot for my friends for about an hour and a half like two weeks ago and they didn't say anything to me or kick me off my data plan.
Thank for posting this! I was wondering as well!
They probably won't say anything so long as you keep within your data cap. Going over it and they will likely scold you...
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No issues here...tethering away and remembering not to be a hog. Don't abuse it.
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No issues here...tethering away and remembering not to be a hog. Don't abuse it.
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Thank you!
When I had the HTC Evo I also had the tethering option ($30/month) but, fortunately, my company was picking up 90% of the tab. Now that my Evo is gone and I have a company provided iP4 I can't tether.
I have mixed feeling about tethering as it is a useful tool to have but also very easy to abuse. The problem with the abuse is that it eats into the bandwidth that I need for more casual usage and therefore negatively impacts my usage. I have heard of folks using of 50GB/month and if even a very small fraction of people did that there would be no cellular network that would survive.
When I get the Note I will probably go with the 4GB plan and have tethering. During my time with the Evo I averaged about 600MB/month including tethering, but with the Note I think the data use will go up because it will be far more useful and practical to surf the net and I think I'll probably go over 2GB/month. I will have to see what my data use actually is and if 2GB/month is enough and I can still tether than maybe that will be the way to go.
I don't see the need to try to game the system all that much and am willing to pay for what I use...
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I've tethered with my Dell streak for over a year, never had an issue.
You just have to stay under the radar. Start downloading ISO size files, and you can bet you will get dinged.
I have been tethering illicitly for almost a year, first on my rooted SGS and now my Note, because that's been my only available "broadband" connection where I live (and I only get about 300kbps down even on HSPA 3g... very oversubscribed towers around here).
I got the dreaded warning letter from AT&T a couple months ago, where they politely suggested that I need to upgrade my plan to include tethering...and if I continue tethering, they will eventually do it for me.
That was a few months ago and they haven't done it yet, though I did back off on my data consumption after I got that letter (I stand to lose my unlimited data plan as well as seeing my monthly bill go up by $30).
I suspect that they infer that you're tethering based on your traffic, and that they can't actually tell whether you have tethering enabled on your rooted phone. E.g. if you're doing a lot of bittorrenting and connecting to sites like Windowsupdate.com, those would be pretty big clue that you're running a PC over your connection.
I rarely use my PC any more, and no more bt :-( so I am hoping they will continue to let my occasional small amount of tethering slide. And if they don't, I may just upgrade to a Verizon 4g LTE mifi instead, since that is now available in my area
HTH
I'm on att and with android phones I've been tethering for almost two years with no problem. It included the Nexus one, the galaxy tab, the inspire 4g, the unlocked sgs2 and now the Note. I frequently used the tethering option to connect my galaxy tab 10.1. I average 5GB a month and have never gotten any warning.
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I'm based in the UK so i don't have any useful input, I just find this article interesting. Your guys network operators over in the US sound like nazis. and I thought ours were bad?
I've seen a few networks over here include tethering as a "bolt-on" style upgrade to a price plan, but my question is, how the hell do they know? like with my SGS, tethering is part of the phone, so it was my understanding that they couldn't tell (unless you had anormal traffic - but with phones getting better processors surely that kind of traffic will very soon, if not already, be possible without tethering?)
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I'm on att and with android phones I've been tethering for almost two years with no problem. It included the Nexus one, the galaxy tab, the inspire 4g, the unlocked sgs2 and now the Note. I frequently used the tethering option to connect my galaxy tab 10.1. I average 5GB a month and have never gotten any warning.
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yeah, like I said: I don't think they can actually tell you have tethering enabled, so if the only devices you're connecting to your AP are other phones, they likely will never figure it out. But if you connect a Mac or PC much, watch out.
UPDATE: AT&T finally forced me into their tethering plan. I put my SIM into an old dumb phone, went online and changed the phone model on my acct, and they automatically dropped me back into my old unlimited data plan. Swapped the SIM back into the Note, all better again
We'll see how long it lasts, but since I'm not tethering anymore (just got a Verizon LTE Mifi) I will probably drop my data pan down to the minimum 200mb and save another $15/mo.
I'm seriously looking into switching all four of my lines over to Verizon now!