Hi all Wildfire owners
AlphaRev X Team says that HTC Buzz/Wildfire HBOOT 1.01 S-OFF is Coming Soon so let's hope that it will be out fast
http://youtu.be/mPNpqR-Y5ac
But is this mean the device is rooted or will need more work to do ?
I wish alpharev good luck, still waiting for S-OFF for my wildfire , but at the rate they're going, all the devices that will be getting s-off, won't be used that much and not many ppl will care anyway lol.
Still, i'd like to see some metamorphing happening on my wildfire ^_^, can't wait, i have paitience
although i don't blame them, they ARE doing it for free =)
Patience
Its been coming soon for quite some time :|
MohamedYousri said:
But is this mean the device is rooted or will need more work to do ?
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Never mind. Thought alpharev x will be the same as alpharev. Don't know about alpharev x. Let us hope it doesn't require root for making s-off.
But the result will be something like "ALL OR NONE". If it doesn't require root, then it is the complete solution. And if it requires root, it will be nothing untill wildfire gets rooted.
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kmdm said:
AlphaRevX will support the HTC Wildfire (Froyo), perm-root not required.
- kmdm
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Wًhat about his ?
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Yes he confirmed it just now. That was reliable and I'm starting to believe it now. That's really good.
Hope alpharev x comes soon and gives freedom to wildfire.
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AlpharevX will not require permroot. It will require temproot via psneuter/gingerbreak (integrated).
And no, it has not 'been coming soon for some time'. AlpharevX is the first announcement about the possiblity to overcome HBOOT 1.x
AlphaRev in it's original form never could, nor was it ever stated it would work on HBOOT 1.x.
In other words, this supercedes AlphaRev (hence the newer name) and will provide a solution for most, if not all HTC generation devices that won't get an unlock.
A 'device' is not rooted. A rom gets 'rooted'. S-OFF enables for that su binary to actually stick, aka permroot.
Ok. Atleast now there is a good hope that 2.2 wildfire will be rooted in future. So let us stick with our device and be a little more patient for sometime. And ben confirmed that alpharev2 is ready for wildfire and is in testing phase for other devices. So, the ones with hboot 0.80 are close to their s-off.
And thanks to all those who are working for alpharev x. I wish u all the best.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
How soon can we expect the release
ieftm said:
AlpharevX will not require permroot. It will require temproot via psneuter/gingerbreak (integrated).
And no, it has not 'been coming soon for some time'. AlpharevX is the first announcement about the possiblity to overcome HBOOT 1.x
AlphaRev in it's original form never could, nor was it ever stated it would work on HBOOT 1.x.
In other words, this supercedes AlphaRev (hence the newer name) and will provide a solution for most, if not all HTC generation devices that won't get an unlock.
A 'device' is not rooted. A rom gets 'rooted'. S-OFF enables for that su binary to actually stick, aka permroot.
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Oooh I really love those guys it is incedible how they can make fun of a whole htc developer team just by giving us s-off in a way they developed in there own spare (!!) time.
If you read this, people from AlphaRev: know that I'm having deep respect here. And that I'm f*cking jalous that I can not do such things myself
W00t nice! Any info about the release date?
ieftm said:
AlpharevX will not require permroot. It will require temproot via psneuter/gingerbreak (integrated).
And no, it has not 'been coming soon for some time'. AlpharevX is the first announcement about the possiblity to overcome HBOOT 1.x
AlphaRev in it's original form never could, nor was it ever stated it would work on HBOOT 1.x.
In other words, this supercedes AlphaRev (hence the newer name) and will provide a solution for most, if not all HTC generation devices that won't get an unlock.
A 'device' is not rooted. A rom gets 'rooted'. S-OFF enables for that su binary to actually stick, aka permroot.
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Yeah, sorry, i was confused between alpharev 2 and alpharev x. Eagerly awaiting it
good news
impresive, any hints on release day?
What's taking them so long to publish the process how to do it? I'm sure they are trying to make it simple.
I think nothing is simple when it comes to 2.2 wildfire.
It will take time for the alpharev x. The release date will be said at the time of release as usual. But really a good hope at the moment.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
They are our only hope now , let's wish it will be out soon
Usually products from AlphaRev are for rooted devices, they've announced that on their website. So basicly, we cannot S-OFF wildfire without rooting it.
http://alpharev.nl/ Read it and carefully read the REQUIREMENTS
No lol. This one is alpharev x and it is confirmed that it won't need a prerooted device. This one is specially for hboot 1 + on all devices. So it roots + s-off the phone.
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I think AlphaRev are planning to release s-off for wildfire hboot 1.01 along with 0.80 also with other devices that's y they are taking so much time but its good they are doing for as much devices as possible.. All the best for Alpha Team...
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Hi,
Is there a way of rooting a wildfire with hboot 1.01.0001?
Downgrate... goldcard... any method!
No
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Short Answer is NO , s0rry to be the bearer of bad news , lolz gonna have to wait till someone figures it out , thats why i never flash an RUU or OTA upgrade unless i KNOW what its goin to do
this is soo funny, people wait to get official froyo, then they want to root. instead they could have rooted before and get a custom froyo rom anyway.
And there were many warnings not to update to the OTA or RUU unless a newer method came out.
Bad luck guys
not everybody is a wizzkid and understand all the thechnical things.
hans3103 said:
not everybody is a wizzkid and understand all the thechnical things.
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Nothing technical about it, all you have to do is search and read.
kevin2516 said:
Nothing technical about it, all you have to do is search and read.
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the thing is that i bought the phone like this ! .... i can't just unbuy it because of that.
hmmm.... not even root with linux?
Cristian.Ene said:
the thing is that i bought the phone like this ! .... i can't just unbuy it because of that.
hmmm.... not even root with linux?
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You'll have to wait for a new root sorry
I read many things and decided to install the original froyo. Its good for me at this moment but for sure When its possible in will root it for overclock my wildfire and to feel free to have a choice. So be friendly to eachother and helpfull when someone install the original and want to root it.
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IM stuck in the same boat as you mate , flashed my phone to unroot with a froyo RUU the ROM doesnt work well at all now im stuck with the same bootloader as you
Yeah I,m stuck too on froyo ota update,I bought a wildfire 3 days ago its my own fault,I used to flash my Nokia with cfw all the time I,m new to android I just didn't think I will not make that mistake again if I get to root it.if these hackers or whatever are like the symbian lot,they will wanna do it coz that's what they do,I hope so anyway.
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I did my phone GoldCard. But i am not sure how to make sure its done.
and whats the difference between Root and GoldCard? sorry i am newbie
HTC Wildfire
Vodafone UK network Locked
Software version 2.2.1
Kernel version 2.6.32.21-g6c55ee4
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
Touch Panel-atmel224_16ab
Radio 0-3.35.20.10
Hi, I'm new here. How can I know my HBOOT version and all the other infos? Thanks
Rooting HTC Wildfire (firmware too new ???)
Hi,
I have the same update
H BOOT-1.01.0001
NOV.17.2010
I manage to install usb driver via Speedy0339
ONLY THAT WAY I MANAGE TO INSTALL H BOOT USB driver!!!
Then I run UNREVOED3
When I run UNREVOED3 process starts:
1. installs unrevoed 3 and reboot phone,
2. Then he starts rooting a.......and then :::::::::::::
3. SEE attached file [Error: Failed to get root. Is your firmware too new? ]
Root with Unrevoked
Unrevoked as we speak are trying to root the new Froyo update for the wildfire.
as the change log says.
v3.31:
Backed ClockworkMod down to 2.x series on EVO 4G; now 2.6.0.1.
Still has new kernel. Still has WiMAX key backup. Now supports amend scripting again.
ROM authors: fix your ROMs! Support will go away again in 3.x.x.x: Koush has a good thread explaining the reason why.
Improved compatibility with Android 2.1 (fixes “am reported error starting service”).
Increased root timing window (fixes “failed to get root” on supported devices).
v3.3:
Fix for latest EVO 4G OTA (3.70.651.1) and EVO 4Gs with new versions of HBOOT (2.02 and 2.10).
Switched exploits for all platforms; hopefully more reliable than rageagainstthecage
Updated ClockworkMod, with plenty of new features:
3.0.0.2 for EVO 4G, which has a new kernel (for better WiMAX safety), and supports WiMAX key backup
2.5.1.2 for Incredible, which supports SLCD
No update for Wildfire yet; sorry. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Only Snow Leopard is supported in the OS X build.
No update for Wildfire yet; sorry
maybe in the next update they seam to update pretty quick its just a waiting game now.
certrix said:
Hi,
I have the same update
H BOOT-1.01.0001
NOV.17.2010
I manage to install usb driver via Speedy0339
ONLY THAT WAY I MANAGE TO INSTALL H BOOT USB driver!!!
Then I run UNREVOED3
When I run UNREVOED3 process starts:
1. installs unrevoed 3 and reboot phone,
2. Then he starts rooting a.......and then :::::::::::::
3. SEE attached file [Error: Failed to get root. Is your firmware too new? ]
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If you've read the thread, you would know that there is no way to root that HBOOT version. Unrevoked 3 currently only works on the stock HBOOT.
I need to root official froyooooo
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk
Look up 'A solution to downgrade cn froyo 2.2' but I warn u, it may be dangerous.
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pl0ppy said:
Look up 'A solution to downgrade cn froyo 2.2' but I warn u, it may be dangerous.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Solution for downgrade is not working. At least, untill a temp root exploit will be found for this new hboot.
Regards.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
I just recently bought my Wildfire, Never thought of rooting it till i found HBoot by mistake was just messing around i am also on HBoot-1.01.0001 like its said so many times on here root can't be done, i was messing with that z4root app on it and on temp it doesn't error out only on perm it does. So does this mean the temp root works ?
If so is there anyway you could flash with a temp root please bare with me i am a Linux person and the Andriod OS is Linux in a sense but Andriod is new to me and as such this might sound noobish.
i wanted to understand (and let everyone understand) the froyo wildfire bootloader and its other security details, so that someone will root the wildfire finally. Everything needs to be done by sharing the security loop holes of wildfire.
its not an easy task. but i dont really wanted to wait further for rooting.
any suggestions, comments and complements are widely accepted.
everyone who wants to root wildfire share ur information here.
whatever the information u know, post it here
lets get it done.
No offense, but, this is such a pointless thread. Why don't you start by telling us what all you know about the new Bootloader? (Technicalities). If it were so easy, I am sure someone would have done it already.
I'm a newbie and will learn to do that. I posted this thread to share information of wildfire bootloader. If everyone shares whatever he knows, then I'm sure that finally someone roots it. That's the beauty of sharing and unrevealing things. I believe the persons who root and develop apps are also once new bies. So I would like people to support this thread. There s nothing that can be undone. Only its a matter of time. So try to share.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
Moved to general.
I agree that sharing information is vital to accomplishing mutual goals but asking people for general info about the bootloader or general advice about the root process is not development...hence I moved the topic to general.
Good luck and I hope you are able to learn enough to achieve your goal...that's what XDA is all about.
krook6023 (mod team)
a little bit of help maybe
there are two things that we can aim to achieve root on our widlfires . .
1. downgrade the Hboot to rootable versions (1.01 to 0.80 for eg) reported successful in another htc device in which i don't remember what it was
2. try to achieve root with the 1.01 Hboot instead (which seems to be harder )
do not ask me about the technicalities of this options as i am no developer like i said, just trying to help
yes downgrading wildfire HBOOT 1.01 to 0.80 will make rooting easier, but there is a more chance of bricking.
i remember the other phone which downgraded HBOOT was desire z. watch out this link,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
in that process, observe the path
/data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.33.405.5
someone said this on xda,
I own a HTC Desire Z, and I have downgraded my software including Hboot using this method .
I have tried the same thing on my girlfriend wildfire and I managed to obtain temporary root, but when I tried to change "misc_version" to 1.24.405.1 I got this error:
Code:
# /data/local/tmp/misc_version -s 1.24.405.1
--set_version set. VERSION will be changed to: 1.24.405.1
Patching and backing up partition 17...
Error opening input file.
I know that this files are specific for Desire Z, psneuter worked only after I have downloaded from somewhere else (I don't remember where), but maybe someone will manage to edit "misc_version" and make it work on wildfire, then it will be possible to downgrade everything including H-boot.
so if we r working on downgrading the HBOOT, then our target will be to change the version of the "misc_version" to 1.24.405.1
i would prefer to work on downgrading the HBOOT rather than rooting the newer HBOOT. because, if once we have successfully downgraded the HBOOT, we can root, then unroot, then re-root anytime without any limitations.
Lol, its not a problem of patching the HBOOT. The problem is, overwriting the current HBOOT with a patched one. That requires a vulnerability/exploit, which are generally hard to find.
edit: posted this without fully reading the thread, i see you're looking at downgrading as well. what i said is still valid though.
tell me about exploit / vulnerability
hey are u sure it is not an issue of patching HBOOT. is it only the issue with overwriting the original HBOOT with a patched one. pls reply
and what is meant by vulnerability or exploit in this process. pls describe it.
on march 18th 2011, unrevoked released source for an exploit (zysploit exploit) in 2.2 using github. im giving u the link of it here.
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit
the download link of zysploit here:
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit/archives/master
im also trying to attach the files. and tell me if that zysploit helps us anyway.
hoping to hear.
bharatgaddameedi said:
hey are u sure it is not an issue of patching HBOOT. is it only the issue with overwriting the original HBOOT with a patched one. pls reply
and what is meant by vulnerability or exploit in this process. pls describe it.
on march 18th 2011, unrevoked released source for an exploit (zysploit exploit) in 2.2 using github. im giving u the link of it here.
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit
the download link of zysploit here:
https://github.com/unrevoked/zysploit/archives/master
im also trying to attach the files. and tell me if that zysploit helps us anyway.
hoping to hear.
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Yes I'm sure about patching HBOOT. I'm currently using a patched 1.01.1000 HBOOT S-OFF. You should really know what a vulnerability/exploit is before getting into this stuff. Google is your friend. You can't go from total noob to HBOOT exploiter directly.
AFAIK zysploit does not help if your bootloader is completely locked down.
edit: oh and i didnt mean that you ARE a total noob, i said that because you were saying everyone was a noob at some point (which is true, but there IS a learning curve)
im sorry for going into the details of u. but pls let me know this.
i have seen ur phone details on this thread like below.
Phone: HTC Wildfire
HBOOT - AlphaRev 1.01.1000 S-OFF
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.0.2.4
Radio: 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
ROM: [2.3.3] Locally built CyanogenMod 7 with Darktremor Apps2SD
SDCard: SanDisk 4GB Class 4 (512MB EXT).
urs HBOOT is 1.01 and is S-OFF. and then there is alpharev, which works with rooted phones.
i dont understand really, how a HBOOT 1.01 with S-OFF is rooted and then alpharev is made used. i have seen some others peoples phone details to be exactly like this.
have u used xtc clip to make S-OFF. if it is so, then i heard that u must downgrade to the HBOOT 0.80 to make the phone rooted. also heard that alpha rev is not yet compatible with wildfire. let me know something if u r willing to share.
and google search for exploit gives irrelated data. do u know any specific link to learn about exploits.
bharatgaddameedi said:
im sorry for going into the details of u. but pls let me know this.
i have seen ur phone details on this thread like below.
Phone: HTC Wildfire
HBOOT - AlphaRev 1.01.1000 S-OFF
Recovery - Clockworkmod 3.0.2.4
Radio: 13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10
ROM: [2.3.3] Locally built CyanogenMod 7 with Darktremor Apps2SD
SDCard: SanDisk 4GB Class 4 (512MB EXT).
urs HBOOT is 1.01 and is S-OFF. and then there is alpharev, which works with rooted phones.
i dont understand really, how a HBOOT 1.01 with S-OFF is rooted and then alpharev is made used. i have seen some others peoples phone details to be exactly like this.
have u used xtc clip to make S-OFF. if it is so, then i heard that u must downgrade to the HBOOT 0.80 to make the phone rooted. also heard that alpha rev is not yet compatible with wildfire. let me know something if u r willing to share.
and google search for exploit gives irrelated data. do u know any specific link to learn about exploits.
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The patched HBOOT by AlphaRev is v1.01.1000. However, stock 1.01.1000 CANNOT be replaced by any known methods. AlphaRev replaced my stock 0.80.0002 with their 1.01.1000 PATCHED HBOOT. No, I have NOT used an XTC Clip. And no, only people who have no clue what s-off is would downgrade to 0.80.x to root after s-off. When you're s-off, fastboot lets you flash a custom recovery, which lets you flash a rooted ROM. Done.
A test version of AlphaRev has existed for ages for Wildfire. Just not released, though it should be released soon.
About exploits: http://tinyurl.com/bwqgkp
See the first link.
hboot versions
As far as now we have 3 versions of hboot. Making a note of them below along with the associated radio (in official roms)
1st version: hboot 0.80.0002 and Radio_13.45.55.24H_3.35.15.31 (at the time of phone manufacture)
2nd version: hboot 0.80.0007 and Radio_13.53.55.24H_3.35.19.25 (in august or later)
3rd version: hboot 1.01.0002 and Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10 (came with froyo update in december 2010 or later)
Based on different regions, the hboot may slightly vary in the last number like 0.80.0002 and 0.80.0003
So, remember that. And the above versions are for ASIA---INDIA.
here it says that wildfire has temp root - http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly - does anyone now how to temp root and is it then possible to install custom roms via rom manager? Thanks.
Aca902 said:
here it says that wildfire has temp root - http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly - does anyone now how to temp root and is it then possible to install custom roms via rom manager? Thanks.
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that link doesnt mean that wildfire now has temporary root.
that link means that wildfire with 2.1 can be rooted whereas wildfire with 2.2 is in a temporary unrootable stage, which will be rooted in future. same applies to htc aria. watch out there is "temporary" even to aria also.
htc aria got updated to official froyo in feb 2011, and like wildfire, aria is also yet to be rooted.
so presently wildfire and aria are the phones eagerly waiting to get rooted.
and i wanted to mention something about htc legend.
this htc legend (unlike wildfire and aria), got rooted in a very short time.
htc legend and htc wildfire both got updated to official froyo almost at the same time. but in the 1st week of jan 2011, legend got root access. legend devs managed to downgrade from official froyo to rooted hboot 1.01 eclair. its there in the legend forums. maybe it can help someone to understand wildfire rooting. link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894465
wildfire with 2.1 (older hboot) is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
bharatgaddameedi said:
joined xda in nov 2010. dont even know how to create a thread. remained passive.
created my first thread on 10th april 2011. now exploring xda. would like to simply say that xda is an ocean with immense of knowledge. suggesting everyone to explore.
irrelative matter, sorry for that.
now coming to the point of rooting wildfire.
wildfire with 2.1 is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
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here's what i think: you should read. all of your questions are answered somewhere or the other already. source code of NAND exploits WILL NOT be released, because that would enable HTC to patch the vulnerability, which they have already done anyway. and, these exploits only apply to HTC bootloaders, not all android phones. meh. each manufacturer -if they choose to do so- locks their bootloader IN THEIR OWN way.
bharatgaddameedi said:
now coming to the point of rooting wildfire.
wildfire with 2.1 is rooted by some processes like unrevoked, paulO'Brien process, and etc.
now can we expect those teams to release the source code of those processes.
once if it is done, i think rooting will be made opensource just like android operating system. almost every android phone will be rooted and great android development follows. what do u say
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If the source code of those exploits are released, HTC will patch it up with an updated bootloader, like they did with the HBOOT that came with OTA Froyo update. Plus, every manufacturer have different bootloaders on their phones. For example, exploits that work on HTC's bootloaders don't work on others. Same goes for rooting, different phones require different method of doing it.
The reason why it's almost impossible to root is that the manufacturer, in this case, HTC, decided to lock the bootloader. That's what I say.
TL;DU The exploit used to root that worked with Eclair (HBOOT 0.8) doesn't work with Froyo (HBOOT 1.01) anymore because HTC patched it.
doomed151 said:
If the source code of those exploits are released, HTC will patch it up with an updated bootloader, like they did with the HBOOT that came with OTA Froyo update. Plus, every manufacturer have different bootloaders on their phones. For example, exploits that work on HTC's bootloaders don't work on others. Same goes for rooting, different phones require different method of doing it.
The reason why it's almost impossible to root is that the manufacturer, in this case, HTC, decided to lock the bootloader. That's what I say.
TL;DU The exploit used to root that worked with Eclair (HBOOT 0.8) doesn't work with Froyo (HBOOT 1.01) anymore because HTC patched it.
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Right. Im aware that if source code of a rooting process is revealed, HTC will patch it and make it won't work.
im aware just changing a version of bootloader by htc will not make any rooting process stop work, unless they have patched the previous exploits.
but my way of thinking here is completely different.
Let them further patch their bootloaders. But, tell me who is going to make a second official update. I, personally won't make any other official update. and at this point of time, i dont think any wildfire user, who is eagerly waiting to get the phone rooted, will make a 2nd official update. even after waiting for 4months just to get rooted, if a wildfire user makes a 2nd official update, then i dont know what to call him/her.
its pretty clear that wildfire users willing to get rooted will not make any other official updates. and those who are not willing to get rooted (at this point of time) will continue to make updates, and get their bootloader locked up, of which i expect no one bothers.
but i wanted to know if it is the same exploit that roots different htc phone models.
if the same exploit is rooting different htc phones, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes no sense. i agree and i give up.
but the exploits for rooting different htc devices are different, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes some sense.
i think htc HBOOT also has source code. what if some unloyal member of htc reveals the source code, so that it becomes easy to root.
bharatgaddameedi said:
Right. I knew that if source code of a rooting process is revealed, HTC will patch it and make it won't work.
i knew just changing a version of bootloader by htc will not make any rooting process stop work, unless they have patched the previous exploits.
but my way of thinking here is completely different.
Let them further patch their bootloaders. But, tell me who is going to make a second official update. I, personally won't make any other official update. and at this point of time, i dont think any wildfire user, who is eagerly waiting to get the phone rooted, will make a 2nd official update. even after waiting for 4months just to get rooted, if a wildfire user makes a 2nd official update, then i dont know what to call him/her.
its pretty clear that wildfire users willing to get rooted will not make any other official updates. and those who are not willing to get rooted (at this point of time) will continue to make updates, and get their bootloader locked up, of which i expect no one bothers.
but i wanted to know if it is the same exploit that roots different htc phone models.
if the same exploit is rooting different htc phones, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes no sense. i agree and i give up.
but the exploits for rooting different htc devices are different, then my arguement to reveal the source code makes some sense.
i think htc HBOOT also has source code. what if some unloyal member of htc reveals the source code, so that it becomes easy to root.
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wow you really have no clue do you? the HBOOT can be easily disassembled using any disassembler. people have gone through it and found that the old hole/weakness is NO LONGER THERE. If there's no weak point, what will they attack? even with the source code they can't do anything.
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wow you really have no clue do you? the HBOOT can be easily disassembled using any disassembler. people have gone through it and found that the old hole/weakness is NO LONGER THERE. If there's no weak point, what will they attack? even with the source code they can't do anything.
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Yes u r right about me. I thought that the source code will atleast tell us the way of approach of the process. So here u tell me that the way of approaches to root via 2 different exploits is completely different. So everytime the HBOOT gets patched, then we should seek a complete different way to exploit it. Am I correct.
I am just curious will htc release 2.3 android for wildfire??? Anyone know???
Best regards
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
Unlikely. But, this has officially neither been confirmed nor denied. Someone sent a mail to HTC, and, got a standard automated reply "We will notify you if we are providing 2.3 for Wildfire... bla bla bla"
Anyhow, as I said previously, in my personal opinion, it is unlikely. More so now, because the Wildfire S is out.
Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
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dragdusan said:
Good point there... I mean it is kind of strange that we have custom roms for wildfire based on gingerbread that work quite fine,and then we dont have original rom with gingerbread... and then stupidest move of all is to lock bootloader and all that malarky that makes froyo unrootable...
Am I right or wrong???
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It's to force people to ditch their Wildfire and get their new line of phones. Simple and cold business logic.
why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
i dont want official gingerbread on my device. and i dont want any further security on my bootloader. need someone to root my wildfire.
the answer to ur question is wildfire is not getting any official gingerbread. the 3 network in UK has already confirmed that.
the reason is simple. wildfire s is releasing this may, which decreases the htc support to the original wildfire.
The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
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brilldoctor said:
The hero still got 2.1 after.the desire was out
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Hero wasn't a budget device but the Wildfire is.
HTC Tattoo for an example is still on 1.6.
Also HTC UK said on facebook, "Because of the capabilities of the wildfire we think its best for now to keep the wildfire on 2.2"
Which makes no sense, Gingerbread is even faster.
bharatgaddameedi said:
why the hell do u need official gingerbread on ur wildfire. the official froyo for wildfire updated the bootloader and implemented greater security on the bootloader, so that no one knows whether it will be rooted or not. 4months of work without any result.
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Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.
Alex_GP said:
Err.... I did update to 2.2 official without changing my HBOOT. How? I waited for the modified version without the HBOOT image
I`ll gladly do the same for 2.3 official.
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great news dude. it means that even u can still root ur froyo wildfire now. ur patience benefitted u. to be patient is what i learn frm u.
and where is that modified version of official froyo update. can u give me a download link of it.
i think the modified version definately has an updated radio, updated recovery image, and other updated things leaving the HBOOT unupdated. do u face any problems with this issue.
i think the modified update is OTA UPDATE zip file. and in that ota zip file, we will see firmware.zip .
the firmware .zip contains boot.img and HBOOT file
i think u replaced the boot.img and HBOOT with an older version eclair RUU. am i correct
creators of the modified version, pls let me know how u did that.
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oh, sorry i got it.
so, u first had a rooted phone and then u made update with ROOTED OFFICIAL UPDATE.ZIP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9890520&postcount=4
it`s v0.0, but i`m running V0.1.
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Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.
ShyamSasi said:
Gingerbread Sense would be slow on our device. HTC won't do such a stupid thing. They will force people the upgrade the phones.
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really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet
bharatgaddameedi said:
really. how would be the gingerbread sense in custom roms. havent tasted them yet
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No one has, because Gingerbread Sense does not boot on the Wildfire. Atleast yet.
Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.
From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc
brilldoctor said:
From my expirence with samsung - DONT!! My tab has had no updates, is laggy (as all other galaxy s devices are) I would reccomend a higher end htc
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I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.
Skye Menjou said:
Gingerbread is pretty light, It has the exact requirements of Froyo.
It will not run slow, there are custom roms that prove that.
HTC is just forcing you to buy a new phone.
I think I'll go Samsung next time.
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+1 on samsung. I myself am thinking of getting a Galaxy Ace. Rooted my friend's ace yesterday - it was so easy! Just psneuter (superoneclick) is enough - and you have full system r/w access. Trying to get CWM running on it now
Actually, a lot of the new SE phones are supposed to ship with unlockable bootloaders. As far as I know, anyway. Neo, Arc and Play, at least. These seem to be fairly high-end.
Just wondering whether they will back out soon like they did with PS3's OtherOS option.
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I wouldn't. They are all shipping with locked bootloaders now - ala SE. So, if you wish to have stuff like Root and Custom ROM's, not good at all.
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That's why my tab Is stock. With the wildfire it was as simple as unrevoked and then hit install rom in clockworkmod whilst the Samsung devices you need to mess with odin and there are no rrus to go back to stock
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I wonder if a knowledgable person could help me.
I have followed the root guides for unrevoked, I have followed the procedures others have used when they had problems, and no luck.
Every time I try to root using unrevoked 3.22, in the HBOOT bit it complains that PC49DIAG/PC49IMG "not found" and fails.
Phone details:
OS: 2.24.161.2
Android 2.2.1
HBOOT stuff:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
RADIO-3.35.20.10
It has a 2GB SD card, formatted as FAT32.
I have successfully installed the drivers so it shows up as "Android bootloader interface".
I've installed HTC Sync, run it, connected, uninstalled HTC Sync (not the drivers) and rebooted the PC. Still no-go.
PC is WinXP 32-bit.
Can someone suggest a next step? I've rooted/flashed countless phones but this one has me beat!
with HBOOT 1.01.0002 you cant root your phone ,yet.
Yes you cant root with hboot 1.x even if the froyo ROM is downgraded to eclair ROM the hboot remains same 1.x and ya its wrong place for asking this section is only for Rom Developers.
Ach, damn HTC.
Thanks for the replies, and sorry for posting in the wrong place.
hoping with the Alpharev X
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You need to make your phone s-off first with an XTC clip.
I sent mine away to get done, cost £20.
I then downgraded to Android 2.1 then used unrevoked.
I'm now running CM7.
fergusstrachan said:
I wonder if a knowledgable person could help me.
I have followed the root guides for unrevoked, I have followed the procedures others have used when they had problems, and no luck.
Every time I try to root using unrevoked 3.22, in the HBOOT bit it complains that PC49DIAG/PC49IMG "not found" and fails.
Phone details:
OS: 2.24.161.2
Android 2.2.1
HBOOT stuff:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
RADIO-3.35.20.10
It has a 2GB SD card, formatted as FAT32.
I have successfully installed the drivers so it shows up as "Android bootloader interface".
I've installed HTC Sync, run it, connected, uninstalled HTC Sync (not the drivers) and rebooted the PC. Still no-go.
PC is WinXP 32-bit.
Can someone suggest a next step? I've rooted/flashed countless phones but this one has me beat!
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Please be a troll.
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Sorry Barclay, I didn't understand that comment, but it sounded like you're accusing me of being annoying/obtuse.
Apologies if that's not what you meant.
One thing I forgot to mention was that I had to make a goldcard as, although the XTC clip is meant to do this, the place I got it done said to remove the SD card before sending the phone.
This stumped me a bit until I realised I had to make a goldcard.
fergusstrachan said:
Sorry Barclay, I didn't understand that comment, but it sounded like you're accusing me of being annoying/obtuse.
Apologies if that's not what you meant.
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If you had done any research at all you would known your device is not rootable without either an xtc clip. Or alpha rev X (which isnt released yet)
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Well I'm terribly sorry my level of research doesn't meet your exacting standards, Mr Barclay, but this is supposed to be a forum where people help each other, and you don't seem to be one of those helpful people so maybe best you just don't say anything.
Accusing me of being a troll. Mindless idiot.
fergusstrachan said:
Well I'm terribly sorry my level of research doesn't meet your exacting standards, Mr Barclay, but this is supposed to be a forum where people help each other, and you don't seem to be one of those helpful people so maybe best you just don't say anything.
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Here, here.
Your original post would suggest you have done a fair bit research but you just hadn't come across the s-off issue.
I didn't know about it either until someone pointed it out to me.
not rooting
every time i root my wildfire, i goes until the last step and error comes
"failed to get root. is your firmware too new?"
how can i now root my wildfire?
tejas612 said:
every time i root my wildfire, i goes until the last step and error comes
"failed to get root. is your firmware too new?"
how can i now root my wildfire?
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Check ur hboot menu first. If it has hboot 1.01 with S-ON, then it cannot be rooted by unrevoked as now. Only way presently for that hboot is using paid xtc clip which actually makes S-OFF, thus making the nand writable. Also search.
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Haha, you couldn't script it.
Cheers for the backup btw scobodon. I may be stupid, but I do search a bit. heh.
No worries mate.
I can't be bothered with p****s like that either.
Hey. Well searching on the forums or at all I just can't find a straight answer.
I have HTC Wildfire with Android 2.2.1. Can I use the newest Unrevoked 3.32 now to root this device?
I went through all the posts in this thread and the last person on page 47 mentioned he was able to do so: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776&page=47
I want to be sure before I attempt to do this and possibly brick it
Well, thus far, that is the only post that has show unrEVOked to work on 2.2 ota.
May I suggest to you my way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14855147&postcount=1
(No reports of any brickings thus far.)
Kulverstukass said:
I went through all the posts in this thread and the last person on page 47 mentioned he was able to do so: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776&page=47
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He (post #461) didn't clearly say that he used unrevoked.
Posting in that related thread doesn't mean using the process right.
And if u can see his previous post (#460), it gives the link to this process
http://joel5121.blogspot.com/2011/06/wildfire-22-root-tutorial.html
So, don't use unrevoked for wildfire alpharev hboot. Ofcourse we should't forget unrevoked .
bharatgaddameedi said:
He (post #461) didn't clearly say that he used unrevoked.
Posting in that related thread doesn't mean using the process right.
And if u can see his previous post (#460), it gives the link to this process
http://joel5121.blogspot.com/2011/06/wildfire-22-root-tutorial.html
So, don't use unrevoked for wildfire alpharev hboot. Ofcourse we should't forget unrevoked .
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I s-off my wildfire with ApharevX and I root with SuperOneClickRoot to get Superuser and I Flash custom recovery (Clockworkmod 2.xxx or 3.xxx) with PC49IMG.ZIP
Bbuummpp
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Bbuummpp
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Your question was answered. Why bump needlessly? No you can NOT use Unrevoked to root your device. You will have to get S-OFF first via AlphaRev X, then, use SuperOneClick v1.9.5 to get root, and, if you are interested in getting a Custom Recovery to flash Custom ROMs and stuff, you can follow nejc's post.
Unrevoked does not come into the picture at all if you are on official 2.2.1.
One more thing, there is no way to remove S-OFF once you perform it. (yet) So, if warranty is essential for you, keep this in mind.
EDIT: Read the Post before the post on Page 47 of the thread you posted (Last Post of Page 46). Then you will see the continuity. He did NOT use Unrevoked to root his phone.
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776&page=47 (same as the link above) is also the method I used and I must say it worked like a charm!
3xeno said:
Your question was answered. Why bump needlessly? No you can NOT use Unrevoked to root your device. You will have to get S-OFF first via AlphaRev X, then, use SuperOneClick v1.9.5 to get root, and, if you are interested in getting a Custom Recovery to flash Custom ROMs and stuff, you can follow nejc's post.
Unrevoked does not come into the picture at all if you are on official 2.2.1
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Well, 3xeno, you CAN use Unrevoked to root the device. I did, worked flawlessly.
1.) S-OFFed with AlphaRev X.
2.) Installed 2.1 RUU.
3.) Used Unrevoked to root and flash recovery.
4.) Happily using CyanogenMod 7.
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Well, 3xeno, you CAN use Unrevoked to root the device. I did, worked flawlessly.
1.) S-OFFed with AlphaRev X.
2.) Installed 2.1 RUU.
3.) Used Unrevoked to root and flash recovery.
4.) Happily using CyanogenMod 7.
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It may be working. But it shouldn't be recommended buddy.
After s-off, ruu + unrevoked is completely unnecessary process and a risky process which includes possibility of errors. And moreover a lot lengthier process.
I think these are some disadvantages of it...
-- it includes flashing of radio and an attempt to overwrite hboot both of which are sensitive process. Ofcourse RUU generally will not brick the phone. But when phone is S-OFF, it skips the signature check which means AFAIK it cannot differentiate a bad file and a good file.
-- there will be two eclair RUUs present. And flashing the oldest eclair RUU will mostly result in touch screen failure. This should be fixed by flashing the newest eclair or froyo ruu again.
-- I think the unrevoked version installs the 2.x recovery for wildfire. Since unrevoked is not released for a while for wildfire I think so. If yes, it means cannot install 2.3 roms unless using rom manager or by reflashing recovery with regular processes. And ofcourse the offline charging bug.
Unrevoked software hacks the greatest security so as to install the custom recovery. And what if there is no security at all. Even simplest methods can do the job.
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smokzye said:
Well, 3xeno, you CAN use Unrevoked to root the device. I did, worked flawlessly.
1.) S-OFFed with AlphaRev X.
2.) Installed 2.1 RUU.
3.) Used Unrevoked to root and flash recovery.
4.) Happily using CyanogenMod 7.
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Sure, but, I wont recommend it. Also, because it seems that this method is widely recommended, the forums are full of "Touchscreen Fail" after flashing the Eclair RUU.
Besides, I don't get what's the issue with using Fastboot, where just 1 line in Command Prompt will do it, but, whatever suits people............ Fastboot is supposed to be a breakthrough feature when you get S-OFF using AlphaRev X, and, it's sort of an "insult" to not use it.
Well, it worked for me. I guess I'm lucky.
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