I am just having the hardest time making my craigslist ads which require me to cut and past the URLs of my photobucket images. I also need to edit in HTML into the posts and this is proving to be a nightmare on the transformer. In tablet form or docked.
It seems that I can't just click to place the cursor exactly where I want it and the cursor seems to always be moving to places I don't want it. Also trying to cut and paste works great sometimes and others it just seems unusable.
Should I maybe use a text editing app and then just cut and paste it over? Can anyone relate to the things I'm talking about? I'm new to Honeycomb so maybe there are a lot of little tricks I don't know yet.
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getting a stylus may help with the fine aiming of moving the cursor. and if it moves around you may be hitting the trackpad so try turning that off.
but for what your doing, it may be best to make it all in a text editor and then copy/paste it in the browser.
neok44 said:
getting a stylus may help with the fine aiming of moving the cursor. and if it moves around you may be hitting the trackpad so try turning that off.
but for what your doing, it may be best to make it all in a text editor and then copy/paste it in the browser.
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Any suggestions for text editor apps?
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well the included polaris will work pretty good, color note and basically any other note pad app will as well.
there are a couple apps that can make and create .txt documents and those should work as well.
Ill look around, thanks.
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Just an update.
I am currently using Opera forced in desktop mode only. This is the fastest scolling and zooming browser there is. The only thing I hate is how opera functions when selecting text off of a page to copy. It is really cheap. I also like the fact that I can add any search engine to the browser. I couldnt stand how every time I did a Google search it would search through Google mobile, so I just added the main Google search and all was fixed.
Typing on forums has been a breeze for the most part with opera, now if I can just find a way to use the Native copy and paste on web pages it will be almost perfect. At least when editing text or web page URLs it uses the native highlight feature.
In response to the cursor moving, I have that problem and am pretty sure it has to do with the mousepad being set up for "touch to click". On a fullsize laptop, no big deal, but on the smaller keyboard I keep hitting it. As a result, that disable-mouse button gets a ton of use from me.
It was doing it to me while editing on the screen as well. It doesn't seem to be doing it with opera though so Im happy about that.
One weird thing I have noticed as too is that if I really get going and start typing fast, the keyboard will register double I inputs twice. So for example if I type the word that, it will sometimes show as ththat. This only happens when im typing at full pace though and only sometimes. I went to Verizon today to play with a zoom and couldn't get the zoom to recreate this issue, it was only running 3.0 also.
If you are talking about the same thing I'm thinking about, I think this is just a general Android bug. My 2.3.4 phone does it and the stock browser on my TF does it. I have a guess it has to do with text wrapping... but no idea if that's really it.
An easy way to see why I think it seems to be a text wrap issue is by zooming in a little and typing a few lines of text, then try to edit it. Then pull up the green caret move handle thing and notice that it moves where you didn't place it.
Another way is to get a keyboard with arrow keys (thumb keyboard) and select one line and press the down key... it sometimes jumps a line or two. Almost certain its because of the text reflow. I wish you could turn it off or Google would fix it. I HATE working on a long forum post or Outlook Web App on my phone because textarea editing is just a horrible experience.
Finally, I, too use Opera... I'm not a fan, but its the only browser fast enough and that doesn't try to reflow ANY text area. No other browser, that I know, uses text areas that do not reflow.
I completely agree about Opera.
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Hi,
I didn't know in which forum to place this post, hopefully this is the right one.
I have had Hermes for a couple of months now and I use many programs to read stuff like RSS feeds and books on it. I am very disappointed with how scrolling to the next page is solved in these programs.
I dread turning pages because I always lose track of the sentence I am on. The programs that use the scrolling wheel to jump through links are especially unergonomic because you can never predict where they will jump. But those that simply turn the page are just as bad.
This problem could easily be solved by having the last line on the screen turn yellow or blink or something when you push the page down button. That way when the new screen is rendered you would still know where you are. This would speed up reading for me immensly and also make it more enjoyable. If someone knows of a program that has scrolling implemented this way please let me know.
Eh? what bout setting your jogdial so when you click it down, it scrolls it down to the next page. That's how I have my iSilo setup.
Even so you have at least one moment that breaks your concentration: when you reach the last page a page down doesn't move an entire page down, but less. When you read RSS-ed articles which are usually 1-5 pages long this gets really annoying really quickly.
At least using the standard RSS reader. I'm hoping there is something better out there.
Found this on ppcgeeks.com:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=31987
heres the actual file
no word on res or compatibility as theres only 1 cab, but try it and see
ill update with proper info as people reply
http://rapidshare.com/files/129971545/Opera9_1706.CAB.html
Just tested on my Mogul...daimond keypad still does not work for text input outside of the address bar. Seems to use memory like a *****. I went from 65% to 83% usage, it also kept informing me I was out of memory, though it kept running.
Problems for many with it. It constantly defaults to the standard on screen keyboard every time you need to type something in. You change it back to the keyboard you want but every time it won't stay. I went back to 1522 myself.
the keyboard problem is fine for me, all i do is type 1 key and the on screen goes away.
better then the old ones, which like stopped typing after i type more than 4 characters.
I like it a lot if im honest
Scrolling and over all rendering seems to be better though. It's beta what are you going to do?
eactly, i have played round with it a bit more, and im liking it now, the bug for keyboard oesnt bother me, but another thign i found is closing it one of the times made it rotate
but seeing as i can literally flick me athena so the keyboard disconnects and reconnects to switch it, im not bothered
http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/
opera mobile 9.5 is getting better and better!
i love it!
on previous 9.5 beta, when u want to click on a link in a webpages, something it goes to the link, sometime it' go zoom in or out!, and sometime menu show up "open in new tab?".
I am having a lot of problems typing with my keyboad dock. I type with only 2 fingers and 2 thumbs but I am quite quick. However I am finding that after just a few words my text is really messed up because the cursor has decided to move up three lines and back 2 words - or similar. This is my third attempt at this post because in each of the previous two attempts the whole message has been 'magically' selected and as I didn't notice in time, my next key deleted everything (does anyone know of an undo?).
I don't know if I'm continually mistyping, but unless I slow right down as I'm doing now it happens everytime.
Anyone else had similar problems?
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I am having a lot of problems typing with my keyboad dock. I type with only 2 fingers and 2 thumbs but I am quite quick. However I am finding that after just a few words my text is really messed up because the cursor has decided to move up three lines and back 2 words - or similar. This is my third attempt at this post because in each of the previous two attempts the whole message has been 'magically' selected and as I didn't notice in time, my next key deleted everything (does anyone know of an undo?).
I don't know if I'm continually mistyping, but unless I slow right down as I'm doing now it happens everytime.
Anyone else had similar problems?
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Yes, hundreds others. The touchpad is quite sensitive. Disable it while you type long messages.
These problems seem to be tied to the stock browser. I have far less issues with Opera 11.
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These problems seem to be tied to the stock browser. I have far less issues with Opera 11.
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Same for me...this hits me much more often in the stock browser.
Well I'm just starting to use Opera, so perhaps I'll be all right. Thanks for the help.
I have this problems with both stock browser, dolphin browser, and any text editing app. Is there any other solution than turning off the mouse every time I want to type for a while?
Thank god I'm not the only one. It realled pissed me off at first and still sort of does. As much as people say this is like a laptop or netbook and want it to be one the keyboard lag really holds it back.
First off overclocking makes the keyboard SOOOO much better. It is actually able to keep up with my typing and deleting. It seems worse on this site but much better with OC. Second on the keyboard dock if you push the key that turns off the keys (it looks like a mouse with a box around it) it stops the typing form automagically? Skipping down the page if you press space delete.
But as the others said you need to disable the touchpad. That's the real culprit for the skipping text. It's a pain to work around but it becomes much more enjoyable if you do that.
Oh and another fun things is if you are using six axis controller and the keyboard dock you lose access to the touch keyboard after you take off the dock. I'm wondering if the prime does better for keyboard speed and lag.
Thought it would be interesting to make a thread on how people are using the S-pen. Give people some new ideas or whatever.
I rarely use it. My handwriting sucks so the Note has no idea what I'm writing. Although normal people can't read my writing when I write with pen/paper anyway, so no surprise there.
I mostly use the S-pen to play Nemo picross actually, ha ha ha! It sure is nice to shrink the grid to a tiny size (20x20 visible) and use the pen to play. When I used my fingers on my mytouch 4g, I'd have to use a 9x9 visible grid, and I'd have to scroll all over the place.
- Frank
Nose & ear hygiene
Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
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Nose & ear hygiene
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
To be honest I only pulled it out to show people what it can do, doubt I will ever need to use it which is a shame considering the time and energy that must have gone into implementing it so nicely!
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HAHA my granddad uses his car key!
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That is so 1980s! You've got to keep up with times, for godssake
Playing World of Goo.
Japanese handwriting recognition.
Faster typing with Swype.
Handwritting with Graffiti Pro recognition method. Works way better than inbuilt one as you use simplified characters.
Also drawing and photo masking/editing.
i use it for swypeing - i rly like it.
GTD. Any time something comes up that I have to do, I do a quick memo and send to evernote inbox. each day I open evernote inbox and process all items. I make a handwritten lists of the task for that day and save the other ones to a next actions folder in evernote.
I use the stylus for Swyping and everything else, any time my fingers are a little damp and not sliding smoothly over the screen.
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Keep my girlfriend busy drawing while I'm watching football.
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Lol.... I do the same thing except I watch cricket.....
But she got so addicted to it that she wants one now....
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I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages where zooming is not allowed and where a laptop and mouse would be needed e.g. in charting packages. I also find it useful for selecting text during editing where you need to be precise.
removing earwax, my finger is much more accurate than the s-pen to draw with
I figure it's a tool that needs to be learned like a musical instrument.
A little bit every day, until you get to the point where you're fluid, expressive, and extremely efficient.
Right now, I'm practicing here and there. Here's what I hope to be able to do very quickly with the S-pen in a couple months:
-- pull up S memo, jot down a quick note or 5, save in a "pile"; convert to text to be scheduled/organized later; shared to Evernote/Skitch/class notebook
-- screen capture pages and images, then edit/crop them to share later (like in the fancy demos)
-- sketch quick ideas, like charts and graphs, to import into a presentation form (ppt, email to group, into a video tutorial)
-- learn to draw (How to Draw app), to make quick flyers, invites, and ads
-- be very familiar with photo editing, exporting
-- be very familiar with video editing, exporting
-- annotate PDFs, whiteboards
-- be fluent enough to demonstrate all this to gawkers
As of now, I'm just dipping my toes in the all these pools. So much to learn, so little time...
I will say that I'm finding the tiny stylus and the inconveniently placed button difficult. I think the larger Samsung pen accessory into which the stylus can be inserted is somewhere in my future...
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I use it to use the note when the temperatures are very low and I have my gloves on.
I love drawing and sketching with the s pen...
I also use it to write out messages quickly. Once you get used to using the s pen, handwriting input can be pretty fast - I manage to fit 4-6 words even on the portrait version of handwriting input for msgs and that works out pretty well; it's even better in landscape..
I use the pen for selecting small items on web pages too and also some games are much easier to play using the pen.
In the winter I imagine not having to take gloves off to use my phone (except to get the pen out of the slot of course!)
If you're asking though "Is it a gimmick?" then I will say NO. It is genuinely useful.
Nothing
My 9 year old daughter used it once to draw and keep herself busy whilst waiting for the main course to arrive
show off in front of my freinds it serves no other purpose.
I was so impressed by this I'm pseudo bumping it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354191
I kind of suspected that either you the stylus a LOT or you don't use it much at all.
- Frank
When I got my transformer I immediately felt that browsing on it was a little uncomfortable when compared to the control I have on a desktop computer. I've noticed one poorly executed function was the PC equivalent of a "mouseover" or "hover" function. It made opening hover menus in a browser or controlling a flash video player a bit awkward, although still functional.
I've recently stumbled upon on 2010 article on why a Flash developer believes that flash would not work on the iPad, but many of the points that he makes are very valid given the implementation of flash that we have on our transformers.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/02/20/an-adobe-flash-developer-on-why-the-ipad-cant-use-flash/
I was just wondering if this was something you've all noticed and perhaps if you have your own ideas as to how a mouseover functionality could have been better implemented in android.
Also, I've once tried to bring this up in another topic which ended up getting closed, so let's try to keep that from happening.
Thoughts?
Multitouch. Tap with 2 fingers to "hover".
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I think that a double tap would be a good solution for something like bringing up flash player controls without pausing the video.
What about scrubbing the video? For instance, with youtube you can use your mouse and move it (without clicking) along the progress bar while being shown the exact time in the video that you are currently pointing at. This obviously makes rewinding and fast forwarding much easier on a computer. I suppose on a tablet you would double tap and then drag your finger, as per this implementation?
EDIT: Wow, I'm sorry I totally misunderstood. You actually mean't using two fingers as opposed to double tapping with one.
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When I got my transformer I immediately felt that browsing on it was a little uncomfortable when compared to the control I have on a desktop computer.
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I'll be brutally honest. You've got what I like to call not-used-to-something-that-is-new syndrome.
I'm sure when the personal computer first came out, people were crying left and right that typing on the computer was uncomfortable compared to the typewriter. In fact, if you go back long enough, I'm sure people were whining left and right that the page turning book format was uncomfortable to read compared to the scrolls. Heck, why stop there? I'm sure writing with ink was really awkward and uncomfortable to those who were used to the chisel and hammer.
The fact of the matter is every time a new technology came up, there would undoubtedly be resistance to the change. I have no doubt that there were arguments against Gutenberg's invention (the printing press).
I say the advantages of the tablet far outweighs the disadvantages. And please don't start arguing that the tablet could never replace your pc. No one is making such claim.
That was unnecessary.
The question here is how to make the "hover" functionality more intuitive.
i think a multitouch or swipe gesture would be the best option.
for example with the mousover menus, if u could quickly swipe across said menu to have it show the options.
not sure if its viable but who knows
or even a double tap. tap once to open the menu, tap again to select an entry or go to the main link
The problem is that a multitouch would register as a zoom function, not a hover function.. Computer analyses aren't good enough to tell the difference between two points of contact with relatively stable distance between them vs two points of contact moving away (because it's sensitive right now..?).
im using an external mouse really like it looking forward to ics for no more keyboard lag
i hope at least
also i would like a scrolling in facebook chat and pictures so you can see comments
p.s typing from it right now
I am using Logitech bluetooth keyboard with touchpad [designed for PS3]. For now it's the best solution for me.
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I am using Logitech bluetooth keyboard with touchpad [designed for PS3]. For now it's the best solution for me.
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are you havin keyboard lag?
i mean if like on facebook it doesnt respon as fast a computer
just checkin if the keyboard is problem or honeycomb
All I have to complain about is XKCD in Google Reader (app), and there's probably an app or greasemonkey script for this already.
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Flash the KRAKD Rom no more keyboard lag
DESIRE HD using ER3BUS ASUS TRANSFORMER on KRAKD
You will find that as more web developers and designers switch to HTML5 and CSS3 (which the stock android browser already supports btw) it will be much more of an experience like a desktop computer. In fact, hover effects implementing CSS3 currently support mouseovers on our transformer. the hover transitions work pretty dang well actually
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All I have to complain about is XKCD in Google Reader (app), and there's probably an app or greasemonkey script for this already.
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Yep: https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5ieXR0ZW4ueGtjZHZpZXdlciJd
Click the title of the item in google reader and it opens in xkcd viewer, and there you can click on the cartoon to get the hover-over.
Yeah its clearly not good, I also frequently miss a keyboard with cursor keys to move around in an input field.
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You will find that as more web developers and designers switch to HTML5 and CSS3 (which the stock android browser already supports btw) it will be much more of an experience like a desktop computer. In fact, hover effects implementing CSS3 currently support mouseovers on our transformer. the hover transitions work pretty dang well actually
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How exactly is the "hover" functionality implemented on the transformer with HTML5 and CSS3, in terms of how the user is able to call on the function?
Yeah, I'm trying to encourage someone who's a developer on a web software I use quite often to add the clickhover property to the default theme instead of pure hover. Not only does that enhance browsing on tablets, but it also supports a11y.
yes, mouse-over or the lack of it is a real pain in the ***. I use Opera Mobile and browsing websites that use mouse-over navigation without the dock is really annoying.
is there a fix/workaround/touch-combination to get the mouse-over effect working?
The problem is that a multitouch would register as a zoom function, not a hover function.. Computer analyses aren't good enough to tell the difference between two points of contact with relatively stable distance between them vs two points of contact moving away (because it's sensitive right now..?).
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This is false. There's nothing magical going on here, a touch UI is only as good as how it's programmed.
Two points of contact with stable distance CAN be discerned from two points moving away. For example a naive method to do this would be to store the last N number of touched coordinates per some time slice in the form of a recency list and then perform some minor arithmetic operations on them to determine the delta and make a reasonable assumption as to whether movement is occurring. It might be harder to discern movements where the quantity is similar to each other but where one quantity is essentially zero movement and the other is any movement, this is not so difficult to do.
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yes, mouse-over or the lack of it is a real pain in the ***. I use Opera Mobile and browsing websites that use mouse-over navigation without the dock is really annoying.
is there a fix/workaround/touch-combination to get the mouse-over effect working?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21270831&postcount=30
refer to point number 3