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Does any1 who has it knows if Xperia supports USH hub or mass storage?
If you connect an external USB stick or card reader, the Xperia is able to read from it?
I have asked on developer's forum, but no one was able to answer, so i thjought any1 who has it can try an tell me.
Thanx!
you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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I don't think that's what he means.... He wants to know if you can hookup an external card reader!
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you can choose btw. mass storage or active sync in the settings.
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The question was if it could read from a mass storage device or a USB stick, not the opposite.
Afaik the USB port has no host mode, but on many devices today the hardware supports changing from slave to host mode. If so, it has to be some kind of firmware hack to do it.
Btw, the mass storage setting is superior to the ActiveSync mode in bitrate when transfering large files, like music and movies.
The truth is that MSM7200A natively supports "USB on the go", but if SE utilizes it, is another matter. Other HTC devices with the similar Qualcomm chip don't support it.
I wonder if this is a hardware or software issue (just like TV-out only difference being that on HTC devices it is enaled).
I have already check it with usb host cable from Toshiba G900 but nothings happend :-( Maybe it's just a metter of proper drivers or maybe it's just not implemented.
use wmStorage
http://deblor-freewaresmartphone.blogspot.com/2007/12/wmstorage-v18.html
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http://deblor-freewaresmartphone.blogspot.com/2007/12/wmstorage-v18.html
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Does this work with WM 6.1. Someone should test anyway.
(I hate it that I am still waiting for mine for over 2 weeks)
I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia
I'm pretty sure that USB host has to be enabled in firmware not software. I read in a few places recently that practically all the chips include USB host these days, but many manufacturers do not utilise the ability. I think it's likely that they'll add USB host as a killer feature in Xperia X2 to try to entice us to upgrade.
memtronic said:
I was somehow misundestood.
Let's say i'm out of the office whitout the notebook. I meet with a friend and i want to give him some files on a usb stick. I connect the stick to the Xperia, write the files from Xperia memory/email/whatever to the USB stick. Then we go an drink beer
Is that scenario possible?
I'm waiting for my Xperia to arrive (they say about 25th of nov.), but i want to know. I will test.
Maybe someone will write an app that can do that until i got my Xperia
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That's exactly what USB on the go is. If the USB stack on a device is hardware implemented it can't be done. Of course as I said that Qualcomm SoC supports it but we don't know if HTC,SE utilizes it. Also, we don't know if it is a driver or software issue.
Does anyone know of a usb host driver that enables usb host on the X1? Another user reported that the Zeno usb host drivers did not work. Any one tried others with success?
it has been discussed here somewere, and the last thing was all agreed it doesn't have a USB Host!
i hope it's not true, only time will let us know!
Uh... Well... I understand what you are asking for, but I don't know what you want to do with it... What would be the need for a USB host function on a mobile phone
Trudi said:
Uh... Well... I understand what you are asking for, but I don't know what you want to do with it... What would be the need for a USB host function on a mobile phone
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Let's say you have some files on a thumb drive and wanna work on them (.doc , .xls...etc) but you don't have a laptop with you.
Or..Some images on an external HDD you wanna send via email, but no laptop with you...
Or..Show off to your iSheep friends that you can connect usb mouse and keyboard to use on your x1..
Get images off of your digi cam....etc etc
How about pluging in a usb joypad for gaming??
Endless possibilities.
I've recently seen some universal WinMo USB host drivers but the problem with X1 supposedly is that it doesn't power the USB port itself so you might need to power it externally. Dunno if it would really work though.
But you still need a pen drive or ext. hd with mini USB right?
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But you still need a pen drive or ext. hd with mini USB right?
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This http://www.amazon.com/Female-Mini-Male-Adapter-Shipping/dp/B000Y6UL5E
http://tero.mononen.eu/index.cgi/Blog/N800_and_photograhy-2008-07-27-19-01.cgi
Does the amazon actually work on the X1?
Peeps, i have been thinking about this problem for awhile now. Check this thread, there is a link to a site with drivers that should work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480279
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BUT
BUT
Xperia doesn't have a powered usb. So, the only two ways to get something working are to either connect something with its own power supply, or to use a usb injector. Sadly the first option defeats the whole point of connecting a flash or a mouse and the latter one, well, i haven't had any luck with a suitable injector for the x1.
Good luck.
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Does the amazon actually work on the X1?
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NO, not unless we have a driver for USB host for X1
And as above posts stats, power to the USB.
ok so I'm thinking of trying to get usb host mode working on x10
problem 1, the usb port in x10 does not provide power.to external devices...
i want some crazy tester to set.up a jig as mentioned here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24618556
(just make the jig....do not.think about that kernel...that's a totally different phone)
next, the kernel.you have to.use.is this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24217211
or, one.of.the two.kernels here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24026342
(as per your ROM, select kernel)
next we.need a usb host controller app (sztupy has made.one)
so get that
if someone is ready to go through this.... please contact me
maybe we can get usb otg up and running on x10
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Hey champ, just curious what the purpose of the jig is? If my understanding of a jig is correct, isn't it simply a 301ohm resistor between pins 4 and 5 in a USB connector? Usually used to put Samsung phones into download mode, I believe. I can see how I would need a usb OTG cable and a powered hub, but why the jig?
I hope that you're on to something here, USB host on the x10 would be incredible!
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Hey champ, just curious what the purpose of the jig is? If my understanding of a jig is correct, isn't it simply a 301ohm resistor between pins 4 and 5 in a USB connector? Usually used to put Samsung phones into download mode, I believe. I can see how I would need a usb OTG cable and a powered hub, but why the jig?
I hope that you're on to something here, USB host on the x10 would be incredible!
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actually yes....
we just need the otg cable and some way to provide power to the usb device....
rest my kernels i linked.to...I've complied them with host mode drivers enabled...
at the moment (for next 4-5 weeks) i do not have the time/energy/money/resources to set this hardware monkeying business....for that i need a volunteer.....
rest the kernel is up, and once device is connected, i can guide the person into mounting it too....
we just MIGHT do a big thing here
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Hey champ, I did have a usb 4 port hub that used a power supply. Will something like this work?
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Hey champ, I did have a usb 4 port hub that used a power supply. Will something like this work?
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yes maybe... see my fxp mod kernels have usb mode enabled...we have to try and see if it works
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yes maybe... see my fxp mod kernels have usb mode enabled...we have to try and see if it works
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I have not used fxp yet. Whats a good kernel & rom to test with.
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The circuit/adapter needed is rather simple:
It will let data pass through, and from an external source provide power to both the phone and the device.
I might be up to test this, but I have to gather some leftover parts from broken USB gadgets I have lying around.
Now where did I place that 5 volt power supply? * looks around*
I'll be back...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923864
^^^ build your own hub.
get the hardware up guys, (I'm currently shifting homes, and all hardware related stuff cannot be found easily...lol)
I'll see what can be done about kernel and about mounting it..we might *just* be able to pull this off....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923864
^^^ build your own hub.
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Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper just to buy a powered one? But it does remind me of how pissed off I was as a kid when I ordered a Sinclair ZX81 kit to build and the bloody idiots sent me an assembled unit instead at no additional charge. Useless.
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Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper just to buy a powered one? But it does remind me of how pissed off I was as a kid when I ordered a Sinclair ZX81 kit to build and the bloody idiots sent me an assembled unit instead at no additional charge. Useless.
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Usb connection needs to be modded to micro usb either way.
I had ZX81.. such a awesome toy and tool.
Hey all,
I have all the nessesary hardware - DIY battery powered hub module with PWM power.Works fine on some other devices, not on X10.
It is because I was making a lot of developing and experiments with otg mode on X10 (X10 schematics helped). I have also built kernel modules, loaded them succesfully, but nothing else - logcat or dmesg didnt see anything and no errors returned (stick,HDD,mouse,keyboard...).
So, i could be volunteer, because I am interested of it, and slso have hardware and software skills
BTW.: I am also very curious about new ideas in otg X10
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Hey all,
I have all the nessesary hardware - DIY battery powered hub module with PWM power.Works fine on some other devices, not on X10.
It is because I was making a lot of developing and experiments with otg mode on X10 (X10 schematics helped). I have also built kernel modules, loaded them succesfully, but nothing else - logcat or dmesg didnt see anything and no errors returned (stick,HDD,mouse,keyboard...).
So, i could be volunteer, because I am interested of it, and slso have hardware and software skills
BTW.: I am also very curious about new ideas in otg X10
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try using my v5 kCernel
(you'll have to use fxp cm7 rom along with it )
it has usb otg enabled in kernel
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Ou... see that it requires unlocked bootloader
Sorry, is there any other solution how to get this kernel working? I. e. source code which can allow me to build locked bootloader kernel image?
And for your information, in kernel page (from your signature) version 5, link for wifi modules is dead , says file not found.
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Ou... see that it requires unlocked bootloader
Sorry, is there any other solution how to get this kernel working? I. e. source code which can allow me to build locked bootloader kernel image?
And for your information, in kernel page (from your signature) version 5, link for wifi modules is dead , says file not found.
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will try to build locked bl kernel for you...
for file download see my signature, there is dev host mirror and direct link both... (look inside x10 folder inside kernels)
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will try to build locked bl kernel for you...
for file download see my signature, there is dev host mirror and direct link both... (look inside x10 folder inside kernels)
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Anyway thanks for even try ! Good luck
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I've been experminetning hoping i'd get anything to show up in the kernel logs when attempting to connect something to the port.
However, even if the chip itself does support this, I start to believe the circuit board simply isn't wired up to function in this way.
Now think about it: Why would SE put the extra circuitry in (even if themselves are rather primitive), if they never planned to include it in the first place?
What I've done so far:
Made a simple adapter based on a experiment board with two USB connectors, and a DC in jack that supplies both connectors with 5 volts, that charges the phone, provides the common ground and supplies the gadget one connects (In my case a simple USB flash memory)
I tested this adapter on another device that does support USB on the Go, or what it's called. It works.
Even if a kernel doesn't support the device itself, the log will show signs that an unknown device is connected, which is good enough for me, as confirms the hardware works.
Now onto the X10:
Tried the ROM FreeXperia FXP117, with the kernel from FXP115, as is. dmesg gives no result at all. Also tried flipping around the data + and -, no result. Device is charging, bu nothing else.
Tried the kCernels, from the link provided by the OP in the first post.
While I had trouble booting the device up completely (My own fault, has nothing tod with this thread), at least I was able to boot the kernel and was able to access the device from the debug bridge (adb shell).
Yet again no result. Nothing from dmesg, nothing on the flash memory that indicates kernel accessing it. (It flashes a few times initially when detected otherwise)
Questions:
Are we talking about a separate modified kernel module here?
If so I might have missed it.
Have I missed any importants steps? (loading the external modules for instance?)
EDIT:
Are now "screwing" around with some USB hubs, connectors and are also looking int othis S3C USB Host thing. I suspect that one is aspecial thing for samsung, and are not the same as other devices uses.
We might need another way to control the USB-mode in the X10 chipset, which I suspect is not a S3C based one.
I also suspect the device need a special chip in order to switch between host and device mode, and that chip also provides the "root hub" in question. I suspect the X10 lacks all those things, even if the chipset itself proviced support for it.
EDIT 2:
No success at all. I even tried to detect if there where any data exchange between the X10 and the hubs I've tried (Both straight and crossover on the data leads)
Nothing. There is no whatsoever activity at all going on between the devices.
With that. I'm pretty sure one need a special chip that wakes up the USB host mode in the chipset when certain circumstances are fulfilled. (Normally a chip integrated in the device itself, which the X10 lacks)
I'll place this little project of mine, on the shelf for the time being.
At least until someone can provide us with additional tips that can lead into forcing the X10 chipset into USB host mode.
To put this in simpler terms:
One cannot simply connect to devices to eachother. Nothing will happen.
Both devices will sit there, waiting for the other one to start speaking so either one can respond to the other.
That is how USB device and host mode works:
When a device is connected, the host will detect it and start speaking to it, asking questions the device have to respond to. The device itself will never start speaking, it will only listen, and only respond when asked.
Once this has happened, the data exchange between the device and the operating system can take its course.
The X10 is a device, it listens.
If we try to connect a device/gadget to it, that is not a host itself, it will also sit there listening.
In this situation, we have two or more devices that refuses to speak, as there are no host around to start the conversation.
What we nee to do here, is encourage the X10 to start speaking, by forcing it into host mode BEFORE we connect anything.
for SysGhost:
Same as I did before on doomlord kernels with same (no) results
If you want, i have X10i block diagram schemes. I have already researched them for many many days, but maybe you will find something else...
And one thing - have you loaded usb host kernel modules? Even if hardware supports it, but doesnt have its module, nothing will show up in kernel or system message bus Maybe you know it, maybe not....
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for SysGhost:
Same as I did before on doomlord kernels with same (no) results
If you want, i have X10i block diagram schemes. I have already researched them for many many days, but maybe you will find something else...
And one thing - have you loaded usb host kernel modules? Even if hardware supports it, but doesnt have its module, nothing will show up in kernel or system message bus Maybe you know it, maybe not....
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Any documents on the X10 would be helpful. If you got any, I'd gladly have a look.
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Any documents on the X10 would be helpful. If you got any, I'd gladly have a look.
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here there are
As I am uploading them here, i remember that I had found, that USB host cables are located (as in diagram) on the right side of the JTAG pins (under battery stick), because there is located an usb switcher (page 15).
But not sure about it - time to brainstorm
I upgraded to ICS tonight and one of the best new features for me is the ability to now connect a USB MIDI controller via USB OTG.
This is awesome for me, and one of the areas that iOS absolutely kills Android.
Android still has a long way to go before it can offer anything like iOS for music creation, but this is a big step in the right direction.
I made a quick and rough video to show it working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GygpDwYMVk
If you have a USB controller that is bus powered, then you can play your keyboard anywhere!
We just need more apps that support this feature now. I only know of one (the Grand Piano app I use in the video).
If anyone knows of any others, please let me know.
Cheers,
Rich
PS - I wasn't sure if this belongs in General, Accessories or Apps, so if it's in the wrong place, please move it.
I would kill to have AniMoog on an Android device with a midi controller. I play that APP for hours on end and is the only reason I keep the ipad. I'm an absolute sucker for Analog synth sounds. I may just skip the Ipad next go around and buy a Moog.
I think the display on the Note is too small for that app. Here's hoping Android gets some good synth apps soon.
Yeah, I think for live performance you would a 9 or 10" tablet. Although if you have the hardware controllers to adjust parameters, you just need the processing power of the device and be able to read the screen. You wouldn't need to use the screen to adjust fiddly knobs. But I doubt revs would write an appointment that requires an external device to be used effectively.
But if an app like Caustic had USB midi support, it would great for songwriting or noodling with ideas on the go.
The synthetic screens in that app aren't too cramped on the Note. I was even using it on the Galaxy S without a problem.
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Korg Nanopad
I couldn't get the korg nanopad to work, (as in be recognized in USB MIDI Monitor)
This would be sweet for practicing my finger drumming on my lunch break or such.
I also have Maschine, but it blinks twice and then goes dark, I think it draws too much power. I plan to try a powered USB hub when I find the power supply.
Galaxy Note to Yamaha PSR I425
Hi,
I tried to connect my Galaxy note to Y PSR I425 USB using OTG adapter, the USB Midi monitor application detects the presence (as it pops up from the background) of some device, but eventually says "No midi device connected". Any idea? Any other app works with midi devices?
Thanks
Does that Yamaha keyboard allow you to connect as a standard midi controller?
If you plug it into your pc, does windows recognise it, or do you need to install a driver for it?
I haven't found any apps yet except the piano and pipe organ by the same developer
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richlum said:
Does that Yamaha keyboard allow you to connect as a standard midi controller?
If you plug it into your pc, does windows recognise it, or do you need to install a driver for it?
I haven't found any apps yet except the piano and pipe organ by the same developer
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Yes, I am able to connect my PSR-I425 to Windows 7 (64bit) OS. This keyboard uses Midi via USB. Ofcourse you need a driver that comes with the CD (also downloadable I guess).
If you need to install a driver on win7, then it's not a standard usb-midi input device. Standard devices don't need a special driver for windows to recognise it as a midi device.
Android only works with standard usb-midi devices.
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vga output
I suppose it depends on each user. For me one of the killing points from the Note (and for tab p7300) is the capability to connect through the right connector an vga projector. This is awesome for me as I use this devices for my work. In parallel I use a pointer connected by blue tooth.
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If you need to install a driver on win7, then it's not a standard usb-midi input device. Standard devices don't need a special driver for windows to recognise it as a midi device.
Android only works with standard usb-midi devices.
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I have a Yamaha motif es 8 that to connect to the computer needs drivers through the USB. What if I connect it through the midi ports with one of those midi usb would that work for android?
I'm not sure.
If you have one available without buying one, then it can't hurt to try...
BTW, the midi implementation on Caustic 3 is pretty cool.
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Unfortunately I don't have one handy. Funny thing is I had a USB Host cable and even an otg cable so it's cool I found one on amazon for like $8. Will try the midi USB and report back...
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Hi,
I was hoping I could post on the developer sub forum, but I have too little post, so I hope some of the devs can help me out.
I have in my possession a USB OTG cable, and I am able to connect it to a usb -> serial port, and send/receive data to and from a PC's hyperterminal. I am also able to send/receive data to and from one of my custom boards (something like arduino) that has a serial interface.
I've written my own program to perform this communication, but it is largely based on
- Slick USB 2 Serial
- USB Serial Monitor Lite
from the playstore.
Now, I am able to perform the above with my Samsung Galaxy S3, however, when I tried running my program, or anyone of the above programs (from the playstore) on one of the china branded tablets, which claimed to have USB host mode, it didn't work.
The tablet that I bought is ICOU7.
Now, I am desperately trying to get my program to run on a tablet, but I do not want to buy a tablet, and waste my money (which I already have with that china tablet) if it doesn't work, so can any of the devs out there, with a Nexus 7, confirm that the Nexus 7 is able to perform serial communication with PC/board through an OTG cable?
Do I need a specific OTG cable to do so?
I can't say for certain that it supports serial connections but it does have host mode. I've used keyboards/mice & flash drives without problem
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Depends on what you mean by "serial" device. If you mean CDC/ACM class usb device, then yes, nexus 7 can handle those, it creates /dev/ttyACMX like on desktop linux. This is only accessible if you have root, though. But, ACM devices are also supported by android USB Host API, which means you can write android app, which communicates with such device, and it does not require root.
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Depends on what you mean by "serial" device. If you mean CDC/ACM class usb device, then yes, nexus 7 can handle those, it creates /dev/ttyACMX like on desktop linux. This is only accessible if you have root, though. But, ACM devices are also supported by android USB Host API, which means you can write android app, which communicates with such device, and it does not require root.
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How about for starters, I just wanna communicate with a PC's hyper terminal through its comport? Will Nexus 7 be able to do that?
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I can't say for certain that it supports serial connections but it does have host mode. I've used keyboards/mice & flash drives without problem
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The china tablet I had was able to support mouse/keyboard too. But it was unable to establish a link to my PC's hyper terminal, which I was able to do with my unrooted Samsung S3