I upgraded to ICS tonight and one of the best new features for me is the ability to now connect a USB MIDI controller via USB OTG.
This is awesome for me, and one of the areas that iOS absolutely kills Android.
Android still has a long way to go before it can offer anything like iOS for music creation, but this is a big step in the right direction.
I made a quick and rough video to show it working.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GygpDwYMVk
If you have a USB controller that is bus powered, then you can play your keyboard anywhere!
We just need more apps that support this feature now. I only know of one (the Grand Piano app I use in the video).
If anyone knows of any others, please let me know.
Cheers,
Rich
PS - I wasn't sure if this belongs in General, Accessories or Apps, so if it's in the wrong place, please move it.
I would kill to have AniMoog on an Android device with a midi controller. I play that APP for hours on end and is the only reason I keep the ipad. I'm an absolute sucker for Analog synth sounds. I may just skip the Ipad next go around and buy a Moog.
I think the display on the Note is too small for that app. Here's hoping Android gets some good synth apps soon.
Yeah, I think for live performance you would a 9 or 10" tablet. Although if you have the hardware controllers to adjust parameters, you just need the processing power of the device and be able to read the screen. You wouldn't need to use the screen to adjust fiddly knobs. But I doubt revs would write an appointment that requires an external device to be used effectively.
But if an app like Caustic had USB midi support, it would great for songwriting or noodling with ideas on the go.
The synthetic screens in that app aren't too cramped on the Note. I was even using it on the Galaxy S without a problem.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
Korg Nanopad
I couldn't get the korg nanopad to work, (as in be recognized in USB MIDI Monitor)
This would be sweet for practicing my finger drumming on my lunch break or such.
I also have Maschine, but it blinks twice and then goes dark, I think it draws too much power. I plan to try a powered USB hub when I find the power supply.
Galaxy Note to Yamaha PSR I425
Hi,
I tried to connect my Galaxy note to Y PSR I425 USB using OTG adapter, the USB Midi monitor application detects the presence (as it pops up from the background) of some device, but eventually says "No midi device connected". Any idea? Any other app works with midi devices?
Thanks
Does that Yamaha keyboard allow you to connect as a standard midi controller?
If you plug it into your pc, does windows recognise it, or do you need to install a driver for it?
I haven't found any apps yet except the piano and pipe organ by the same developer
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
richlum said:
Does that Yamaha keyboard allow you to connect as a standard midi controller?
If you plug it into your pc, does windows recognise it, or do you need to install a driver for it?
I haven't found any apps yet except the piano and pipe organ by the same developer
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I am able to connect my PSR-I425 to Windows 7 (64bit) OS. This keyboard uses Midi via USB. Ofcourse you need a driver that comes with the CD (also downloadable I guess).
If you need to install a driver on win7, then it's not a standard usb-midi input device. Standard devices don't need a special driver for windows to recognise it as a midi device.
Android only works with standard usb-midi devices.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
vga output
I suppose it depends on each user. For me one of the killing points from the Note (and for tab p7300) is the capability to connect through the right connector an vga projector. This is awesome for me as I use this devices for my work. In parallel I use a pointer connected by blue tooth.
richlum said:
If you need to install a driver on win7, then it's not a standard usb-midi input device. Standard devices don't need a special driver for windows to recognise it as a midi device.
Android only works with standard usb-midi devices.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Yamaha motif es 8 that to connect to the computer needs drivers through the USB. What if I connect it through the midi ports with one of those midi usb would that work for android?
I'm not sure.
If you have one available without buying one, then it can't hurt to try...
BTW, the midi implementation on Caustic 3 is pretty cool.
Sent from my SM-N900 using XDA Free mobile app
Unfortunately I don't have one handy. Funny thing is I had a USB Host cable and even an otg cable so it's cool I found one on amazon for like $8. Will try the midi USB and report back...
Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk
Related
does anybody know why it shows nothing when I connect my Atrix4G with the laptop ?the phone is not rooted yet.but it shows something when I connect it with the TV .is it something with my laptop ?
zeealot said:
does anybody know why it shows nothing when I connect my Atrix4G with the laptop ?the phone is not rooted yet.but it shows something when I connect it with the TV .is it something with my laptop ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because tv has hdmi input and laptop has hdmi output. You are trying to output hdmi from your phone which should go into the input. Since your laptop is not an input you cannot and will not see anything.
Sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium App
Is there any adapters that are made to lets say Hdmi to usb? I've seen one for hdmi to svideo. But most laptops don't have that either.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Are you just trying to use the laptop screen as a TV for the phone?
Yeah. Pointless I know I mean its a laptop. But my computer has hdmi inputs. Well the monitor does.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Jnewell05 said:
Yeah. Pointless I know I mean its a laptop. But my computer has hdmi inputs. Well the monitor does.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your monitor has hdmi input then just plug in the hdmi cable into it.
Sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium App
so what you are saying is it shows nothing either on my phone or my laptop after connecting the HDMI cable ?
actually what I need to do is to run webtop on my computer.so i need to root the phone.before rooting i need to know all the things are working perfectly .
After rooting would it show those options in my phone and the laptop ?
ceo.mtcl said:
Because tv has hdmi input and laptop has hdmi output. You are trying to output hdmi from your phone which should go into the input. Since your laptop is not an input you cannot and will not see anything.
Sent from my Google Nexus S using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so what you are saying is it shows nothing either on my phone or my laptop after connecting the HDMI cable ?
actually what I need to do is to run webtop on my computer.so i need to root the phone.before rooting i need to know all the things are working perfectly .
After rooting would it show those options in my phone and the laptop ?
@zeealot, you cant connect your phone to any laptop via hdmi... the hdmi port on your phone is for output so as the hdmi port on most laptops so therefore you cant connect output-to-output
if you want to display/output your phone on a bigger screen, you can only connect to a tv or an external monitor that has hdmi input port... also, rooting your phone doesnt have anything to do with it... I hope I explained that clearly to you
yhe2x said:
@zeealot, you cant connect your phone to any laptop via hdmi... the hdmi port on your phone is for output so as the hdmi port on most laptops so therefore you cant connect output-to-output
if you want to display/output your phone on a bigger screen, you can only connect to a tv or an external monitor that has hdmi input port... also, rooting your phone doesnt have anything to do with it... I hope I explained that clearly to you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I see.I got it now.
but if I want to use webtop application via my laptop,how do I intend to do that without using any dock ?
zeealot said:
I see.I got it now.
but if I want to use webtop application via my laptop,how do I intend to do that without using any dock ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You don't.
palmboy5 said:
You don't.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
now, that sucks ...
You could try using a HDMI capture device like this one:
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
but it is probably expensive.
$200 its professional grade used for way more then what your wanting it for. You can actually hook up your xbox or ps3 to your laptop with this and record the game play as your playing it.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
Why don't you just buy the laptop and be done with it? You obviously have no clue about how HDMI works, and I wouldn't trust you trying to perform mods to your phone because I know you'll end up here whinging you bricked your phone.
Sigh.
zeealot said:
I see.I got it now.
but if I want to use webtop application via my laptop,how do I intend to do that without using any dock ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you CAN NOT connect it to a laptop BUT if you're referring to an external display with hdmi input (monitor/tv) you can still use webtop without a dock... just search the forum for hdmi mirroring
Is there any way to make the HDMI output of the laptop to HDMI input ?like by using a converter ?
No. It's not possible. Period.
Use your TV, or get the lap dock, there is physically no way to make your laptop show the webtop off of your phone without an extra tuner card (hdmi are expensive, and not worth it).
Btw, google is your friend.
zeealot said:
I see.I got it now.
but if I want to use webtop application via my laptop,how do I intend to do that without using any dock ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think yhe2x had made it very clear already! Buy a new LapTop with HDMI "IN" port.
Even though I think dingdong a laptop with any form of input would be nearly impossible. Laptops just aren't something people expect, or use, as a secondary display.
Plain and simple... There is no way to connect your phone to the laptop and use webtop mode. TV, yes. HDMI computer monitor, yes. Laptop, no.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
I have purchased a Rasberry Pi and would like to use my Nexus 7 as the monitor.
The Rpi has hdmi and video cable (yellow rca) as output mediums.
The nexus 7 only has micro USB input
Is there an app (such as DSLR) that would provide this facility.
Or any other way of turning my Nexus 7 into a monitor ?
Thanks for your help
lawriemcf said:
I have purchased a Rasberry Pi and would like to use my Nexus 7 as the monitor.
The Rpi has hdmi and video cable (yellow rca) as output mediums.
The nexus 7 only has micro USB input
Is there an app (such as DSLR) that would provide this facility.
Or any other way of turning my Nexus 7 into a monitor ?
Thanks for your help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dont thing so..usb is no hdmi..but you can use some remote app to have it over wifi
Sent from my YP-G70 using xda app-developers app
I'm not sure the specifics, but I imagine if you wanted to do something like this you would need a server side program running on the Pi itself, with an app to attach to it. You could possibly run a vnc server on the pi and have it start the X-Session when someone uses VNC, then you would be able to to access with a vnc viewer on your Nexus 7, of course to do this you'd have to be able to set it up initially. This may also lead to lag as it'll be over a wifi connection.
As far as I know there's no way to do a wired connection, unless maybe using some sort of USB video input with an OTG cable. Would possibly require a bit of hacking on the Nexus side of things.
I've been thinking about what I could do with an old smartphone. I've done a lot of googling and see most people use their device for internet phone calls, media, wifi only, etc... but I want to do something more.
it has so many sensors and an hdmi port that i think should be made useful. Looking for some suggestions.
If it has hdmi, hook it up to your tv as a media player- play movies from it etc. get a wireless usb/keyboard mouse and connect it to your phone with a usb otg adapter. Connect to your home pc with ES File Explorer.
I mean, what could I do if I took the phone apart and utilized the internals for another project?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Premium HD app
Hi all, i have just installed the mod for OTG, it work great and i can mount any usb storage =) But now i want to use the original XBOX360 gamepade, the same i use for PC, on my nexus 4. If i plug it in the OTG cable the light in the middle of the gamepad start blinking but nothing happen, it doesn't work =( What i should do?
Is it a wired or wireless controller?
I believe goog added native support for the wired one around HC 3.1/3.2,
but they never added support for wireless ones.
He said its the wired one.
I have no idea if it works. But maybe you can find something in settings/language&input ?
I never got my 360 controllers to work even under Windows so I wouldn't expect too much, haha.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Unless you're running win95, all you need are the drivers.
There's downloadable drivers for xp/vista/7, it's pre-included in 8/8.1.
It might be pre-included in 7, but it's been years since i used it.
Android does include the key mapping profiles for 360 controllers, there shouldnt be any additional settings options for it. But i've never had a wired controller to test it with.
It should automagically map it so that it follows the android default mapping for controllers.
TheManii said:
Unless you're running win95, all you need are the drivers.
There's downloadable drivers for xp/vista/7, it's pre-included in 8/8.1.
It might be pre-included in 7, but it's been years since i used it.
Android does include the key mapping profiles for 360 controllers, there shouldnt be any additional settings options for it. But i've never had a wired controller to test it with.
It should automagically map it so that it follows the android default mapping for controllers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus 4 does not support USB OTG without a kernel hack and external power for the device. Also, the drivers are preinstalled on windows 8, previous OSs need an installer
lopezk38 said:
Nexus 4 does not support USB OTG without a kernel hack and external power for the device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OP already mentioned he had an otg enabled kernel and can connect other usb devices to his n4
TheManii said:
OP already mentioned he had an otg enabled kernel and can connect other usb devices to his n4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dunno how I missed that. It should work then... The controller might need its own power though
Yea I know apparently they are supposed to work under windows. Never did for me though (xp, 7) no matter which drivers and methods I used.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Free mobile app
Does anyone know how I would be able to play music in my car through usb? I am currently using tune link which uses Bluetooth and 3.5 jack. The issue I have, is that I have to change the song using my phone rather than the control buttons on my steering wheel. Sounds dumb, but I hate having to pick up my phone and navigate to screen to change the song.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Try using an OTG, it enables the phone to be used as a typical computer usb port.
I will try that.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Yeah that didn't work.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Have 100% the same problem. Did anybody find the solution? My old Xperia Acr connected like a common flash card and worked fine. Now I have to use AUX and this is not so comfortable =/
Why do you use a cable AND Bluetooth ? Does you car have AD2P ? If it has you should be able to play music through your phones BT and have the steerring controls . I have a Kenwood head unit DNX 9140 and when i pair my phone to it, i can play music and still keep steering controls over BT
The music out via USB was removed on the s5...was present on the s4.
Tomo1971 said:
The music out via USB was removed on the s5...was present on the s4.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true. There is a lot of misinformation promulgated on the subject. Music out on USB works fine on my S5 just as it did on the S4, S3, S2 and S1..
But that isn't to say that Samsung, Google or (especially) the automotive audio equipment cartel make much effort towards standardized interoperability. It's frankly a mess, a hodge podge of half ass implementations and proprietary protocols that usually don't play nicely together. It can be made to work with carefully chosen components or creative approaches. But randomly connecting components from two different vendors typically fails.
While Samsung and Google could be characterized as only having made a minimal effort to provide standardized USB support.. that is still leagues ahead of what most automotive audio vendors have done. Not to mention that it's routine to find inaccurate details, if not outright lies of what automotive component X will supposedly interconnect with. I sometimes wonder if their marketing departments even bother to collate real facts on the subject before they write their copy.
It's not too hard to find decent DACs and headphone amps that will accept USB audio out from the S5, but I frankly gave up trying to figure out what would or wouldn't work on the automotive end. I ended up going with a brute force approach and installed a SBC (miniature PC) in my car. Having a full PC as a middleman, means that there is a vast array of powerful software (and hardware) that can slice, dice and format the control stream to whatever is needed by the auto head unit. But it's hardly a simple or off the shelf solution.
The OP can probably find a working solution if he searches hard enough. The S5 has USB audio out, although making it work with some car decks requires a combination of root, custom kernels (proper USB host support) and audio apps. An app like USB Audio Player, in conjunction with a kernel that has proper USB host support will satisfy many auto decks.
Hopefully Android L will give us better USB support. But it also depends on how sane your automotive equipment vendor was when they designed your car deck too.
Further reading for any stray audiophiles around here:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XYy1FuzDUeZDNBSVpjQU9Nd2s/edit?pli=1
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/173-2...-audio-any-android-4-0-smartphone-tablet.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3XYy1FuzDUea3U3aTJ1RkpQdW8/edit
.
The problem is that since 4.1.2,USB Mass Storage was removed.
Most, if not all, radios, media players, etc don't support the MTP protocol. They require a mass storage device, and do not support a media device.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
MTP is a newer and much more capable protocol. The problem in your example is that radio, etc vendors are stuck in the past and not adopting newer standards.
MSC (mass storage) has many serious drawbacks that are overcome by the newer transactional protocol. MTP was standardized six years ago, which is just short of forever in consumer electronics. So one has to wonder why the radio vendors continue to drag their heels and can't get with the program.
It's like blaming Android for having moved to flash memory.. and refusing to go along. Expecting everyone to continue using cassette tapes instead. Yes that would be one way to maintain compatibity. But it doesn't make a lot of objective sense.
.
ShadowLea said:
The problem is that since 4.1.2,USB Mass Storage was removed.
Most, if not all, radios, media players, etc don't support the MTP protocol. They require a mass storage device, and do not support a media device.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, and for activation Mass Storage root is required ...
Guys, but what about using USB analog audio input? I remember I did something like that with Galaxy S II - from 5 mini USB pins one was used to sense what phone is connecting to - for ex if it is a car dock, desk dock or... should it enable analog audio output on USB data pins.
Unfortunately I no longer have dock I made back then, anyone knows if that might work with S5?
EDIT: check this out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321491
EDIT2: Oh it seems I completely missed the point, you want to use it as mass storage to connect to car USB port.