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So one thing that bugs the living heck out of me is the lame touchscreen on my Nexus One... Does anyone know what touchscreen this phone is going to be using????
I can honestly say that's the SINGLE thing keeping me from thinking about ditching my N1 for this phone...
EDIT ADDON: I'm not talking about the display screen type, I'm trying to find out the manufacturer and model of the touchscreen used in the EVO 4G
tropmonky said:
So one thing that bugs the living heck out of me is the lame touchscreen on my Nexus One... Does anyone know what touchscreen this phone is going to be using????
I can honestly say that's the SINGLE thing keeping me from thinking about ditching my N1 for this phone...
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I was wondering the same thing and posted this on another forum. I guess it is relevant here too.
I have been reading up on this a bit more and I don't think there is enough information yet to make a call on whether this is AMOLED or TFT LCD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnQcsC-qjpo
In this video at exactly 3:00, some representative (from Sprint or HTC?) specifically says that the display is a 4.3" TFT display and NOT AMOLED :
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/develop/mobile_platforms/android/android.jsp
I also found this link in a thread on androidcentral.com which is a Sprint developers site that states the following:
Display
Type: amoled captive multi-touch
Size: 4.3 inches wga
Resolution: 800x480 (WVGA)
HDMI output: YES
I guess the verdict is still out on this issue unless someone else has anything to add.
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I have been reading up on this a bit more and I don't think there is enough information yet to make a call on whether this is AMOLED or TFT LCD.
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Oh, it's TFT like you hear the reps say in the videos, that's all over the place in the videos released just a couple days ago as you've already seen... it's a really really high quality TFT.. I just haven't been able to find out the Touchscreen yet.
For me, this is also the number one area of concern. My understanding is that the technology is quite different from iPhone's. It would be really good if they can have the accurate and predictable screen behaviour of iPhone's touchscreen. My guess is that iPhone has already patented their touchscreen technolgy so it would not be legal to copy it now.
Pretty much everywhere you look, and including the rep, its a TFT screen. The AMOLED was what many thought the "Supersonic" would have, but when the Evo was announced, it was said to be TFT.
But then, alot of people are saying TFT > AMOLED for practical use (sunlight issues). Sure you can bring up Super AMOLED, but I'm not sure HTC has the rights to use that technology yet.
My main concern is the accuracy of the touch screen manufactured by HTC.
See this report if you have not done so yet:
http://labs.moto.com/robot_touchscreen_analysis/
Yeah, condensed version for those at work:
ArsTechnica
But, with a screen that large - I doubt touchscreen performance will be lacking. Has anyone heard any issues with the HD2's touchscreen performance?
I have both the HD2 and the 3GS.
The HD2 touchscreen is crude compared to the iPhone.
On a web page, links often cannot be selected, and the keyboard is horrible to use despite the fact that is larger than the iphone's.
The keyboard responds to the last input detected. Touch a letter and as you move your finger away and brush another letter that is the one that is selected, which is a major hassle.
Also pinch & zoom is very limited on the HD2.
keatre said:
Pretty much everywhere you look, and including the rep, its a TFT screen. The AMOLED was what many thought the "Supersonic" would have, but when the Evo was announced, it was said to be TFT.
But then, alot of people are saying TFT > AMOLED for practical use (sunlight issues). Sure you can bring up Super AMOLED, but I'm not sure HTC has the rights to use that technology yet.
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The original question isn't about the display screen. I don't care about TFT or AMOLED, I'm only taking about the touchscreen which has nothing to do with the display.
http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/products/clearpad
The current problems with basically all the current HTC phones is that they use a Synaptics 2000 touchscreen... The N1 has basically the same touch hardware as the G1 and all the current HTC phones... Frankly it sucks for a modern day "superphone", I say modern day smartphone that relies on touch for it's only input. It's sad that HTC/Google went with a inferior touchscreen compared to the iPhone which has been out for how many years already? Clearly for multitouch games and applications to work properly the Synaptics 2000 just won't cut it.
I'm hoping the EVO will move to the Synaptics 3000 screen which is true multitouch. That's what I'm trying to find out, what manufacturer and model is the touchscreen.
You can see a demo of the Synaptics 3000 in action here: http://vimeo.com/5739205
Ahhhh, true multitouch like the iPhone. I bet all the wackness I get when trying to type fast will go away with this. Oh, and the phone won't freak out if part of my hand is touching the side of the glass ever so slightly.
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The original question isn't about the display screen. I don't care about TFT or AMOLED, I'm only taking about the touchscreen which has nothing to do with the display.
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Wow.. Well thanks for the edit now, atleast. My apologies for not digging so deep into your question. I do know about the Synaptic screens, however, I do not know if the EVO is 2000 or 3000.
Again, I'm SO sorry for not understanding initially.
no worries, I just feel the need to spell everything out because, well it's the internet.
I hope a new kick butt Android phone comes out this year with true multitouch... I miss the iPhone quality a lot.
...That was supposed to be sarcasm, but oh well, glad we're all happy.
..Anyways, after a little digging, I found a rumor that Synaptics isn't doing the touchscreen for the Evo, Atmel is.
Could be bogus, but who knows.
Whew, more than I could find out which was/is nothing, LOL!
Being HTC has used Synaptics in all (From what I know) of the recent phones over the last 2yrs I find it hard they would go somewhere else... But hey, maybe Synaptics is asking too high of a price for the new 3000 screen... who knows..
That 4in 4G phone sure looks awesome though!
News article quote I found..
This little-known company (Atmel) supplies chips for the Apple iPad, according to the tech design consultancy Chipworks. Atmel has also taken business from another Under the Radar pick, Synaptics(SYNA), by supplying touch screens for HTC's new Evo device, according to Lazard Capital Markets.
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http://www.thestreet.com/story/10723835/1/ipad-boom-could-catapult-small-chipmaker.html
I've only played with the iPad at work, and not extensively, but the thing has a pretty dang good responsive touchscreen. Again, this is from 2-3 days of use, so not entirely sure.. But I've had little issues with it.
NICE FIND! I hope it's true, if so it sounds like the EVO may get the same quality as the iPhone....
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I think multitouch on a phone is over rated. It's an inconvenient gimmick. I prefer operations that can be done one handed. I'd rather double tap to zoom so I don't spill my coffee on my phone.
keatre said:
News article quote I found..
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10723835/1/ipad-boom-could-catapult-small-chipmaker.html
I've only played with the iPad at work, and not extensively, but the thing has a pretty dang good responsive touchscreen. Again, this is from 2-3 days of use, so not entirely sure.. But I've had little issues with it.
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If the news is true that HTC Supersonic uses the same screen as iPhone, then I'll be extremely happy. Everyone knows iPhone still have the best touch screen technology, although that technology is 3 years old now. There as a robotic test done to compare the various screen. You should be able to google it and find the test report.
Manicmobileaddict said:
I think multitouch on a phone is over rated. It's an inconvenient gimmick. I prefer operations that can be done one handed. I'd rather double tap to zoom so I don't spill my coffee on my phone.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you.
Multitouch is fantastic if the software developers knows how to use it. My web browser in iPhone is an example of where multitouch has been put to good use. Double finger left to go the previous tab, double finger right to go the next tab, three fingers to bring up the favourites, etc, etc. On full screen, where you do not want any button to clutter the web page, such possibility is pure joy. Another example, you could have a music player where you can double finger left to go to previous song, double finger right to go to next song, three fingers up to use the next playlist, etc. You can safely use the music player like this while driving!
I guess I'll jump into the frey. The iPhone set the standard when there wasn't one. Apple has done a monumental job on it's portable devices, where, arguably, their computers could have had broader appeal - but I digress.
My HD2 has some very nice features, but it took me a month to get used to the capacitive screen, with and without the touch sensitivity tweaks available in the HD2 forum. The pinch to zoom functions work well in opera (I don't use PIE), but other applications, like media player are not suited for this functions, even though it works using a homegrown app posted on the HD2 forum.
I'm guessing the EVO will have the same, non AMOLED, TFT capacitive screen the HD2 has. I've seen the HD2 next to the iPhone in sunlight. iPhone absolutely blows the HD2 away, so I try my best to stay out of the light. I live in the NW US, so that's not usually a problem.
I've found the back hardkey button works nicely for previous browser or application screen, but lack of forward function in the browser is quite frustrating.
One last thing. In most states driving while using headphone is illegal. Please do so safely with one eye out for the police.
So I'm a bit confused here... The HTC Evo and HD2 have the same screen, yeah? So the HD2 has the amtel chip... Would we then be able to say all the trouble with HD2 screen (see prev poster) will also come with the EVO?
just wondering. i can pick one up locally. brand new, for 250.
why do you guys stay with the nexus since it is not made any longer and what do you love about it?
also..hows the battery life compated to a galexyS phone? ( i have the vibrant)
Personally it's because newer devices haven't offered me anything which I really want/need. I am tempted to go with a HC tablet which will give me access to Tegra2 specific apps/games which is all I feel I'm missing when comparing the N1 to newer handsets. It also runs CM (Never mind the plethora of other ROMs) and trackball alert really is hard to beat once you get used to it
i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
dvigue said:
i had one right when it came out. there were no roms really yet for it and it was on 2.1 i think...i cant remember how "fast" it was..i do remember i liked the screen, but im concered about battery life..
i LOVED how thin the phoen was...
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I get great battery life but it will obviously depend on the user. A combo of setcpu and a decent kernel will definitely help extend the battery. I found that ROMs really kicked off when Froyo hit. Although it has slowed over the past few months the N1 still has great support, especially considering it's nearly 18 months old.
$5 internet and Roms
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$5 internet and Roms
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what do you mean??? $5
because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
RogerPodacter said:
because no other device so far has the same build quality, materials, sexy work-of-art look and feel of the nexus one. plus no other phone has color trackball alert to set ANY notification to ANY color you want. just glance at my phone, blue-new twitter, red-new gmail, yellow-missed call, etc. that is just a necessity once you have it, and not a single other phone is coming out with even a regular notification light, let alone colored.
plus the nexus one is the size of perfection, not so big monsters like these other phones lately. and it still has the amoled screen, not great in the sun, and not as good as super amoled, but all the same indoors.
i just cant find something to replace my nexus one with
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would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
dvigue said:
would you consider the screen the same as like a galexy S phone? crisp/sharpness wise?
i am a HUGE rom flasher, so i think i would benefit from a phone like the N1
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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it IS in fact teh same screen as the galaxy s, both screens are from samsung. both screens use the same pentile matrix pixel layout. the only difference is the galaxy s has super amoled which means the touch layer and glass layer is merged together to produce thinner glass area. the nexus one has the traditional tiny gap. indoors booth look nearly the same (nexus one is sharper because same resolution but 3.7 inch screen. the galaxy s pixels are more visible). outdoors in sunshine is where the galaxy s might be easier to see the screen.
also, not a single other android device exists that has the desk top dock and car dock. that makes the nexus one the full package that no other android device has.
of course the nexus one has the touch screen bug, cant do more than 2 finger inputs, and has the glitch issue. so its a tough call to buy it now. since its probably only 200 dollars i'd say its a no brainer. but not 500 dollars lol.
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
dvigue said:
whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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Every now and than (1-2 times a day for me) the screen calibration gets borked. So if you touch one spot it reads a few mm away sometimes it thinks your touching the soft keys. The way to "fix" the issue is to shut off the screen than wake it up again.
Thats the only issue I've had. Personally waiting for the HTC Sensation or the next Nexus variant to upgrade.
Free (so far) wireless tethering.
Although I am looking at upgrading to the HTC Sensation 4G when it comes out in June.
I love the n1 because it can do everything i use it for and its still a very responsive phone. I pay 15$ for a grandfathered unlimited data plan from att so until theres a superphone available that can do all mine can do plus more and on att(since im not interested in changing cell providers) then im not really in the new phone market.
i use mine for internet access on the road for work like a the airport for instance.
reference for research for anything and everywhere.
navigation for work and play
music streaming from my home pc with subsonic(fantastic app)
music playing locally while in the car
music music music
reminders and email for work
communication with co-workers and friends via trillian on msn/gtalk/aim/facebook
timewaster and newsreader for my google reader feeds
i dont play many games but the ones i do work decent enough
only drawbacks i see with it is the multitouch, like others have said it will think youre touching the bottom menu buttons for some reason, usually i run into this after i had docked it and undocked it or it had been charging. you can kind of reproduce it if youre movinga touch point in the top left of the screen and then tap towards the lower to mid-right. if you have a multi-touch test app you will see it thinking your finger drops straight down. you get used to it though, i dont mind it too much anymore. being able to rotate the map would be nice like on the vibrant but the two finger perpendicular slide to rotate isnt so bad. I still love my n1 a lot more than my girlfriend's vibrant which is tainted by the samsung ui overlay nonsense. give me aosp or give me death.
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whats the "glitch" issue? also, is the screen nice and responsive?
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the glitch is every once in a while the screen thinks you touched a different spot. this happens about once a week for me, mostly less than that. its easy to fix, just lock the phone then swipe to unlock, the issue goes away for another week lol. but it IS a hardware issue that can never be fixed, so we just live with it.
other than that i think the screen is just fine for responsive. probably not the best in the world, but its good to me. touch a spot and it registers immediately.
I love my sexy nexyyyyyy!!!! I like trackball that's why i keep my N1.
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It's a great Developer device for those who like Flashing!
I'm keeping mine for now to see what the Pyramid looks like when released...
I can get a brand new one unopened for 250 in town....
As a vibrant, vibrant 4g, n1 owner ...the build quality of the n1 is awesome. Just tits when compared to plastics.
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1) Community Support
2) Lighted Trackball - it's a lifesaver during meetings!
3) Incredibly pocket-able..thin/light/resilient
4) It's unique - and it's not a Samsung/Moto device!
XDA is no longer worth my time.
Before i get flamed for dumbest thread ever, just wanted to note ive been seeing a lot of posts on xda and other forums about all the 4.5"+ screens fixing to come out soon with ice cream sandwich. A lot of these phones wont have physical face buttons. No fanny pack required. Or bigger pockets. Or dolly. Or briefcase. Blah. But who knows. The next generation of phones might be galaxy notes me toos.
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Hmmm... I hear what you are saying, but what's your point?
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That's actually a good point. Plus they'll be thinner.
I'm sure manufacturers did their research before deciding that 4.5" is the future.
you do have a good point. but what about the normal people who actually use their phones for calls and dont want to use two hands to hold the phone up to their ear? and not everyone has huge hands or wears loose jeans.. lol
i even got annoyed using the HD7 at times because you cant use one hand with everything.. its fun for the first few weeks but yeah.
i think 4" to 4.2" is perfect size, not too big or too small. everyone seems to love the 4" sweetspot. i dont understand why not make more of them, especially HTC they always make 4.2" or 3.7" lol. than again its all personal preference.
Dont get me wrong, i would love to have a 4.5-4.7" phone to mess around with and play games on at times, but that is what a tablet is for -_-
stratax said:
you do have a good point. but what about the normal people who actually use their phones for calls and dont want to use two hands to hold the phone up to their ear? and not everyone has huge hands or wears loose jeans.. lol
i even got annoyed using the HD7 at times because you cant use one hand with everything.. its fun for the first few weeks but yeah.
i think 4" to 4.2" is perfect size, not too big or too small. everyone seems to love the 4" sweetspot. i dont understand why not make more of them, especially HTC they always make 4.2" or 3.7" lol. than again its all personal preference.
Dont get me wrong, i would love to have a 4.5-4.7" phone to mess around with and play games on at times, but that is what a tablet is for -_-
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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I love this...the Atrix is 5" diagonally...well...since this is how they measure all of the flat screens and such...we don't need it any bigger to be better...just add some more resolution to it...some of us actually use them to talk a-lot on...not just text and play games..I have no problems with the size of it to watch my movies with it...and any bigger will be a royal PITA to carry around at work with out getting banged up...
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Yeah, well personally, i hope it s not much bigger either. It wont grow much if at all depending how they do it. Gs2 is too big for and so are the heads.
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5" would be great if it was edge to edge lcd, which probably wont happen. Unfortunately, my guess would be that Apple will create the first edge to edge lcd phone and THEN other companies will follow suit
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5" would be great if it was edge to edge lcd, which probably wont happen. Unfortunately, my guess would be that Apple will create the first edge to edge lcd phone and THEN other companies will follow suit
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I don't see it as unfortunate, though. As long as someone is driving innovation in the industry then consumers are benefited.
However, it annoys me that no company other than Apple would do it first.
Edge 2 edge has downsides. The way tour digitizer will react or error when holding it. An example of this is grab a phone with little to no bezel on the sides and a ****ty digitizer. Nexus one is a good example. I cant think of any phones wuth no bezels on the side and good digitizer but it still acts up sometimes when your fingers are over lapping the sides. Also, the phones will get thicker. Everybodys going to have to kick their anorexic phone habits for an edge 2 edge.
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The Atrix has a 4" diagonal DISPLAY. The nav buttons do not count. Actually, in order to get 5", you'd have to count the entire face of the phone (and it still wouldn't be quite 5). This is not how it is measured. The issue is display size.
Also, the Atrix has a small display, for one with a 4" diagonal. Since it has a thin aspect ratio (9:16), its surface area is not as great as, say, the Galaxy S, which has a wider aspect ratio (3:5). Both phones have 4" diagonals, while one is actually bigger. I suppose you could say that the Atrix is small for its size.
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The Atrix has a 4" diagonal DISPLAY. The nav buttons do not count. Actually, in order to get 5", you'd have to count the entire face of the phone (and it still wouldn't be quite 5). This is not how it is measured. The issue is display size.
Also, the Atrix has a small display, for one with a 4" diagonal. Since it has a thin aspect ratio (9:16), its surface area is not as great as, say, the Galaxy S, which has a wider aspect ratio (3:5). Both phones have 4" diagonals, while one is actually bigger. I suppose you could say that the Atrix is small for its size.
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Duh. Did you even read the thread?
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Duh. Did you even read the thread?
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A 4.5" 9:16 AR screen would be 2.2" x 3.9". Assuming a quarter inch bezel on all sides, that would be 2.7" x 4.4" or 4.9" diagonally. So you can have a 4.5" screen on a phone just slightly fatter but shorter than the Atrix. 4.5" will be the new standard.
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you said i have a good point but i think you still missed it. i was using the atrix as reference because i have it, this is an atrix forum and it's a small topic worth a few posts. if the atrix is ~5" diagonal across, take away the capacitive buttons at the button and add a 4.5-4.65" screen and the phone will not get dramatically bigger. it's going to be kinda like an upgrade from the nexus one, and i speak from experience here, it gotta a hair taller and little bit wider. i think the google nexus will be a little wider. so nothing to balk about when using it as a phone. if it does get a little wider some people might have a problem with it. i sometimes have a hard time reaching the other side but all i gotta do is reposition it. i think at most we'll have another .25" to reach across, but that shouldn't be a problem for me, but it might be for a few. we're prolly talking galaxy s2 at the biggest.
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oh, i missed that part. still you do have a good point lol. i wasnt talking about form factor 100%. i just like the screen size itself. i do miss my 4.2" screen on my HD7 but i also got tired of it as well at times. how would you use the phone if it had no bottom or anything? if it were JUST the screen and no plastic/siding on the front, how would you hold it without pressing and wouldnt it be hard as hell to text on? i think the atrix is perfect size with a perfect size screen for just moderate use. i just hate how ugly it is haha. these are the things i cant really make up my mind on though.. i love to have phones with big screen for media, but i like smaller phones for just texting and such, i guess thats why i set at 4-4.2". ive never had a phone bigger so i am not really one to judge! i am interested in the new HTC WP7 with a 4.7" screen though.
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your face must hurt. you facepalm on alot of threads lol.
I guess Im the only one who is down for a larger display standard, I would even go as far as 6 inches and still put an Otterbox on it lol. I dont keep my phone in my pocket now as it is I carry it in my hand most of the time. And yes I do have a tablet, but I still want an oversized phone as I spend much more time on it. I think its Sony who is working to develop the "foldable" displays, I believe its just a concept at this time. But yea if I could buy a 6 inch display or a phone that unfolds into a tablet I would lol.
Edit: and Im not talking a kyo cera (or whatever it is) ugly ass 2 screen fold Im talking the actual display itself is bendable (currently only up to so many thousand times then the display quality starts to decrease). Do a Goog search you will find it..
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I guess Im the only one who is down for a larger display standard, I would even go as far as 6 inches and still put an Otterbox on it lol. I dont keep my phone in my pocket now as it is I carry it in my hand most of the time. And yes I do have a tablet, but I still want an oversized phone as I spend much more time on it. I think its Sony who is working to develop the "foldable" displays, I believe its just a concept at this time. But yea if I could buy a 6 inch display or a phone that unfolds into a tablet I would lol.
Edit: and Im not talking a kyo cera (or whatever it is) ugly ass 2 screen fold Im talking the actual display itself is bendable (currently only up to so many thousand times then the display quality starts to decrease). Do a Goog search you will find it..
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that tablet looks badass, i wish there was less of a gap in the middle though. i am so glad to see sony in the tablet business now.
I'd like a big phone but phones with big screens should be the only ones. not everyone wants a huge phone that cant even fit in your pocket.. some people like a medium screen with a keyboard on bottom, some people like a 4" screen that isnt too big or small, some people like phones that look like dvd cases up to your head and cant fit in your pocket, and some people are even more dumb and like small screens with no keyboards. its all personal preference. there shouldnt be only one choice. im up for the first three always being available. iphone sh*t that isnt only 3.5 can go away all it wants. too small. unless you are 12, which you shouldnt even have a phone if you are.
i remember those days when everyone was freaking out over the dell streak, i wanted to get my hands on one so bad lol.
I saw this very attractive young woman recently using a dell streak to text or something. Then she got a phone call. I had to walk away very fast because it was hilarious. It looked like she was trying to talk to a book. But i welcome 4.5" inch screens with out buttons on the face. the phones out now are way too big as and i dont want anybody laughing at me.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I'm asking this because I have never used a nexus device before.
I have seen some photos and noticed that the on-screen buttons appears while gaming.
So isn't this a problem? I mean you can accidently touch a button and it will mess everything up.
Is there an option to make the buttons less sensitive while gaming? or is it not an issue at all and it's a matter of getting used to it?
Also what is your opinion about them compared to the buttons in.. lets say.. SGS3.. what is more comfortable in your opinion?
I'm really intersted in buying the Nexus 4 but first I want to make sure that the most basic stuff, the on-screen buttons, are efficient and comfortable to use so I'm waiting for your answers
I've had a Gnex since July and I love the on screen buttons. Never had a problem with them. I actually like them better than the capacitive ones because you don't have to reach as far to the bottom of the phone. I owned a gs3 for a couple days and it was difficult for me to reach the menu button and I have pretty big hands. Hope this helps!
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I've never had a problem with them getting in the way. Some screens will hide those keys if neccessary.
How ever software keys does cause image retention, I noticed just this past week when playing a youtube video in full screen that the notification bar and software keys leave distorted display in those areas.
Not a big deal to me, will buy the LG Nexus 4
robbyf66 said:
I've never had a problem with them getting in the way. Some screens will hide those keys if neccessary.
How ever software keys does cause image retention, I noticed just this past week when playing a youtube video in full screen that the notification bar and software keys leave distorted display in those areas.
Not a big deal to me, will buy the LG Nexus 4
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That image retention is only because of the super amoled. Nexus 4 has ips LCD,issues like black crushing, burn ins won't be present
If it can help, custom ROM like Paranoid or CyanogneMod have an option in the Power Menu (when holding power button) to hide or display the NavBar. (Source)
Okay, so I'm a new Pixel owner (yay!). I've heard and read on every review and site discussing the Pixel that the bezels are so ugly and Google is so dumb, blah blah blah.
First of all, I think it was intentionally done to make the phone more comfortable and ergonomic. If I reach for the home button, it's easy and my thumb doesn't need to bend far down to touch it. Now try reaching down to the bottom of the bezel, where most people seem to want the screen to end. It's awkward and uncomfortable! I think the design is brilliant and more about function over form. I love not contorting my thumb to push buttons. I really question people who want bezels virtually gone. That would be extremely uncomfortable!
Second of all, I got the black Pixel, and this thing hides the large bezels anyway. I honestly don't think it looks bad at all on the black Pixel (maybe XL looks worse?).
What are everyone's thoughts on the bezels? Ugly? Stupid? Helpful? Smart? Ergonomic? Other?
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
CyberLykan said:
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
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Haha, yeah then it would be WAAAY too similar. I love the rear sensor although I wish they'd implement double tap to wake (not just double tap to see notifications) and then pair it with a knock code like LG for security but ease of access while phone is on a desk or something.
CyberLykan said:
I honestly don't mind the bezels. Even though it feels like the fingerprint reader should be moved to the bottom and act as a home button, Apple would most likely sue.
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Coming from a S7 Edge, I always find myself reaching for the front bottom button to unlock the phone. I hate the rear reader. I always unlock the phone by accident when sliding it into my pocket
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Coming from a S7 Edge, I always find myself reaching for the front bottom button to unlock the phone. I hate the rear reader. I always unlock the phone by accident when sliding it into my pocket
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Wow, I LOVE the rear reader. I could never go back to the front one.
On the bright side, at least you won't accidentally touch the edge panels anymore! I heard many people gripe about that on the S7E.
I like the rear reader and could care less about double tap to wake vs. show notifications because of the fingerprint sensor. I still am dumbfounded how they implemented wake and not double tap to sleep. As for the bezels, I've never paid it much attention since the XL and Pixel have been in cases (incipio) since day one. I almost forget what they look like unless I take them out to clean them.
I also love the rear reader, but I do think the bezels should be smaller.. not by making the screen bigger but by making the phone itself shorter. If you look at the attached image, the battery is "small" in comparison to the frame, the lower circuit board could have been made to be more compact allowing the frame of the phone to be closer to the size of the screen.
Apple has too many shortcomings to mention but the one thing they excel at IMHO is design. The iPhone 7's size is perfect. I just wish it wasn't filled with all that... crap.
Rear reader is the best in my opinion.
I think the bottom chin can be smaller otherwise I'm not complaining. Its symmetrical right now.
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Compared to my S7e I get zero false touches and have no issues accidentally tapping back button as i grip the phone and turn to hold it in landscape. Likewise holding it generally doesn't require hand gymnastics and I never accidentally let it slip my grip. All of which were frequent and persistent ergonomic issues with my S6E+ & S7E. There are tangible benefits to bezels that whilst some may not like them aesthetically and prefer bezelless, from a practicality stand point they make using your phone far less an exercise in hand dexterity ...
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I'm also a fan of the rear reader. I came to the pixel from a Sony Xperia Z5 with the reader built into the right side power button. I was a fan of that, and the only thing I preferred it for was when the phone is flat on a table. Other than that, the rear reader is much more natural to hit.
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I think I'm the only person who doesn't mind bezels lol. The only thing I'd change about the pixel is to have actual hardware buttons instead of wasting the screen with the onscreen buttons. Or at least capacitive buttons. I can't stand the thought of a phone with little to no bezels. It would be a nightmare to use and screen would be way more fragile
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I think I'm the only person who doesn't mind bezels lol. The only thing I'd change about the pixel is to have actual hardware buttons instead of wasting the screen with the onscreen buttons. Or at least capacitive buttons. I can't stand the thought of a phone with little to no bezels. It would be a nightmare to use and screen would be way more fragile
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Seriously, people act like it's the end of the world. Economics are important for a phone! I love them!
Nothing to discuss we knew what we were getting when we bought it
There's the galaxy s7 edge for you
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Nothing to discuss we knew what we were getting when we bought it
There's the galaxy s7 edge for you
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Who are you talking to? I am praising the bezels. Did you read this thread at all? If so, I don't know what the S7E has to do with me...?
Don't mind the bezels. Gives you something to hold on to... But if you hold on to them, you can't hear the crap bottom facing speaker. With all that space, they could have popped at least one front facing speaker if not two. This is one thing I miss about my 5x.