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my mt4g is rooted but i cant delete or move the bloatwares.
astro>system>app (it says: error deleting files)
i dont understand whats going on bcus the steps seem simple but somehow its neither deleting nor allowing it to be moved to my sd card.
any help would be most grateful. thanks in advance.
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and one last question. now that my phones rooted, s=off, may i delete visionary, the terminal emulator, and superuser???
>> i have more tasks running now that its rooted along with my inability to remove the bloatware
For your first question, astro cannot delete system apps if you're not mounted r/w, which you wont be by default. Root Explorer gives you the option to mount r/w and then delete apps. alternatively, you may want to install titanium backup and use the "freeze" feature so you can easily restore them if you want in the future.
You can remove visionary, and the terminal emulator if you want, but you'll need the superuser app to grant root permission to any apps that require root in the future.
Don't arbitrarily delete bloat. Use Titanium to freeze apps you don't want like option94 suggested. Some of those apps are tied into the sense ui and deleting them can make things screwy. After freezing in Titanium, if everything is working well, you can delete if you want. Make a nandroid backup before you do anything permanent. I would leave the stock rom alone and flash a rom like iced glacier which is basically optimized stock with all the bloat removed. Don't forget the make backup part.
Sent from my HTC Glacier
thanks i didnt quite understand what 'mount r/w' means or what it really does but as long as changing it to 'mount r/o' makes those unnecessary apps go away, im happy. thanks again
r/w = read/write - you'll be able to make changes
r/o = read only - you wont be able to make changes.
Background
I do not plan on flashing roms, I have a rooted note 3(900t) with knox at 0x0(want to keep it that way). I do not want to backup APKs or personal information.
Desire
I only want to make a backup of all of my critical system files necessary to do a soft reboot. So that in a worst case scenario I never have to worry about not being able to reset my phone.
Reason
I plan on editing files with a root explorer and using Xposed framework.
Hope this is a little more clear, thanks for the help!
7US said:
I have a rooted note 3 with a knox warranty of 0x0. I would like to make a full backup of any system files that could become corrupted so that I may restore them without tripping the knox. I do not care about backing up Apps(Actually prefer to manually install them as I need them), I have all of my APK files manually backed up. Additionally I want to install Xprivacy and Xposed framework but they always warn to do a full backup. I was playing around with ADB as well but that backup seems to be directed at Apps and Contacts which I don't care about. Would it be safe to just install Xposed framework and Xprivacy and rely on the factory reset? Or is there some method I should use of doing a complete system backup. Also how would I restore that backup? (preferably I would like to have a nice backup/recovery method that I know I can always restore from my computer in case somehow one of my system files get deleted) Thank you for your help. I like to edit my system files and I have no problem using the standard phone reset I am more worried about critical failures really just as a failsafe.
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too long.
if i get right from this longe sentences;
u cannot backup knox counter.
u can make nandroid backup from ur system but knox counter will change its value.
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x102x96x said:
too long.
if i get right from this longe sentences;
u cannot backup knox counter.
u can make nandroid backup from ur system but knox counter will change its value.
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I fixed my original post, hope it is more clear for you.
I know I cannot backup my knox counter, which is why I do not plan on installing CWM.
I am new to the Android operating system and read many threads about different methods of backing up and restoring(CWM/Titanium Backup/etc) but they always seem to be centered around backing up APKs+Contacts or backing up Roms for Rom Flashing.
I am trying to understand what I need to backup to be safe to play around with my system files and Xposed and always be able to restore any damage that I may do.
So far I played around with ADB a little bit and saw some tutorials on how to do full backups through ADB but not for the note 3. Thanks for your help! I plan on experimenting and such on my own but first I want to make sure I have necessary backups to not worry about crippling the OS.
Perhaps a question within my question is.. What type of backup do I need? What files need to be preserved for me to be able to do a system reboot to restore the phone? Is it safe for me to be using Xposed without a backup and playing around with system files? Will the soft reboot restore these files? If not what needs to be backed up, that really is my question.
7US said:
I fixed my original post, hope it is more clear for you.
I know I cannot backup my knox counter, which is why I do not plan on installing CWM.
I am new to the Android operating system and read many threads about different methods of backing up and restoring(CWM/Titanium Backup/etc) but they always seem to be centered around backing up APKs+Contacts or backing up Roms for Rom Flashing.
I am trying to understand what I need to backup to be safe to play around with my system files and Xposed and always be able to restore any damage that I may do.
So far I played around with ADB a little bit and saw some tutorials on how to do full backups through ADB but not for the note 3. Thanks for your help! I plan on experimenting and such on my own but first I want to make sure I have necessary backups to not worry about crippling the OS.
Perhaps a question within my question is.. What type of backup do I need? What files need to be preserved for me to be able to do a system reboot to restore the phone? Is it safe for me to be using Xposed without a backup and playing around with system files? Will the soft reboot restore these files? If not what needs to be backed up, that really is my question.
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instead of making backup of ur system files u can download a firmware of ur region!
if something goes wrong when u try to modifying then flash the stock rom.
however u can easily copy a file to another direction and then paste back to original if issue appears.
for example build.prop and etc.
and for ur firmware as i said u can make nandroid backup (thr s lots of tools in play.store for it that not need custom recovery) (if i say correctly!)
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7US said:
Background
I do not plan on flashing roms, I have a rooted note 3(900t) with knox at 0x0(want to keep it that way). I do not want to backup APKs or personal information.
Desire
I only want to make a backup of all of my critical system files necessary to do a soft reboot. So that in a worst case scenario I never have to worry about not being able to reset my phone.
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suggestion:
you could use safestrap.
it is based on the twrp custom recovery but it will not trip knox !
read the thread before using it. you have some more benefits using ss, you will see.
backup the system and data partition and you are safe.
please note that this will never backup the content of your internal storage like your music, videos ond so on.
just dont wipe/format your internal storage from recovery or if you feel you need to, copy the whole content to your pc first.
additional things to backup:
you might want to backup your efs and maybe your pit file too.
easy to find info on this forum.
if you want to read more about backing up via adb, directly to the pc then this thread is for you.
i made a backup of the whole memory block one time, just for the worst case...
basicly, you just need the required files, open 2 cygwin windows and copy and paste(right click) the commands from the first 2 codeboxes from the thread into that windows.
hope this helps
A.N.Droid said:
suggestion:
you could use safestrap.
it is based on the twrp custom recovery but it will not trip knox !
read the thread before using it. you have some more benefits using ss, you will see.
backup the system and data partition and you are safe.
please note that this will never backup the content of your internal storage like your music, videos ond so on.
just dont wipe/format your internal storage from recovery or if you feel you need to, copy the whole content to your pc first.
additional things to backup:
you might want to backup your efs and maybe your pit file too.
easy to find info on this forum.
if you want to read more about backing up via adb, directly to the pc then this thread is for you.
i made a backup of the whole memory block one time, just for the worst case...
basicly, you just need the required files, open 2 cygwin windows and copy and paste(right click) the commands from the first 2 codeboxes from the thread into that windows.
hope this helps
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Very interesting! Reading the 2nd link made me think... could I even recover my files through ADB if I crippled my OS? Don't I need to boot into the device to even get to ADB? Or can I access ADB through the stock boot screen without CWM? Safestrap also looks very tempting. Also do you have a list of the note 3 partitions for me to make ADB backups I have been looking for them on Google and can't find them anywhere the Android file structure is a jungle to me especially how it varies from phone to phone.
7US said:
Very interesting! Reading the 2nd link made me think... could I even recover my files through ADB if I crippled my OS? Don't I need to boot into the device to even get to ADB? Or can I access ADB through the stock boot screen without CWM? Safestrap also looks very tempting. Also do you have a list of the note 3 partitions for me to make ADB backups I have been looking for them on Google and can't find them anywhere the Android file structure is a jungle to me especially how it varies from phone to phone.
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i´m not sure for the stock recovery but from twrp you can use this adb backup method. i just did it a few days ago.
you must change the path in the commands from /system/xbin to /sbin and no need for su.
it should work from safestrap too but i couldn´t get adb to work, some error message was shown.
for the partitions:
system ,data, efs
and maybe modemst1 and modemst2
theres a full list of partitions and an interesting discussion about this topic on this thread.
I want to make a backup of my Android I9505 by copying all the files to my laptop.
I don't understand the directories
Using ES3 I see
/ Device (Which I guess is root.)
0
extSdCard
I assume that exdSdCard is (as it almost says) the external SD Card.
So what are "/" and
"0"
I guess I should back up all directories. What do you think?
webmanoffesto said:
I want to make a backup of my Android I9505 by copying all the files to my laptop.
I don't understand the directories
Using ES3 I see
/ Device (Which I guess is root.)
0
extSdCard
I assume that exdSdCard is (as it almost says) the external SD Card.
So what are "/" and
"0"
I guess I should back up all directories. What do you think?
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Hi,
0 is your internalSD ( /storage/ emulated/0/ )
/ is root directory
If you just copy folder like that , yes you will make a copy of the folders and the data inside of them but it will not work to restore your system , for that you will need something like a Nandroid copy or use Titanium Backup to be re install after you restore your rom
webmanoffesto said:
I want to make a backup of my Android I9505 by copying all the files to my laptop.
I don't understand the directories
Using ES3 I see
/ Device (Which I guess is root.)
0
extSdCard
I assume that exdSdCard is (as it almost says) the external SD Card.
So what are "/" and
"0"
I guess I should back up all directories. What do you think?
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You are WAY overthinking this.
Install custom recovery. Use it to make a Nandroid backup.
That's a single zip file that you can later use to restore everything in exactly the same state as it was the day you made the backup. (Takes all of 5 minutes.)
Then if you want to store that backup zip file on your PC you can easily copy it to the computer and store it there for as long as you need.
Your way of doing this will take a lot longer to copy the files and won't ultimately work to restore the system.
Skipjacks said:
You are WAY overthinking this.
Install custom recovery. Use it to make a Nandroid backup.
That's a single zip file that you can later use to restore everything in exactly the same state as it was the day you made the backup. (Takes all of 5 minutes.)
Then if you want to store that backup zip file on your PC you can easily copy it to the computer and store it there for as long as you need.
Your way of doing this will take a lot longer to copy the files and won't ultimately work to restore the system.
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Using ROM Manager, I boot to Recovery mode. I only see
- Reboot system now
- apply update from ADB
- Apply update from external storage
- wife data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- apply update from cache
No Backup option.
webmanoffesto said:
Using ROM Manager, I boot to Recovery mode. I only see
- Reboot system now
- apply update from ADB
- Apply update from external storage
- wife data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- apply update from cache
No Backup option.
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Hi ,
Then i guess you are 100% stock , no root , no Custom recovery?
if so then you need an app that does not need root to back up your app , Titanium is good but you need at least to be root.
MAX 404 said:
Hi ,
Then i guess you are 100% stock , no root , no Custom recovery?
if so then you need an app that does not need root to back up your app , Titanium is good but you need at least to be root.
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I have Root and I use Titanium Backup.
webmanoffesto said:
I have Root and I use Titanium Backup.
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you are root but you do not wish to install a Custom recovery or custom rom , right?
If so use titanium to make a back up of your apps , contacts , settings , email , sms ..etc etc
If you want to make a nandroid you need to install a Custom Recovery
Just install a custom recovery.
It won't affect the operation of the ROM at all if you're completely happy with the stock rom.
Root and Recovery are mutually exclusive things. One has nothing to do with the other. Each exists independently of the other.
Skipjacks said:
Just install a custom recovery.
It won't affect the operation of the ROM at all if you're completely happy with the stock rom.
Root and Recovery are mutually exclusive things. One has nothing to do with the other. Each exists independently of the other.
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I'm a complete beginner when it comes to rooting, flashing and so on. I've been using my Nexus 4 since the day it came out, and have always had it completely stock, never even rooted it or anything. I'm normally not too bad at stuff like this, but I've been googling how to do all of this and been reading some guides on here, and I'm just getting more and more confused.
My goal is to go from Stock Android 5.1.1 to the newest Cyanogenmod nightly, and to keep all my data. Now, how do i go about this?
I'm already stuck at the first step (or at least I think, that's the first step): Creating a backup of my current Stock phone. Apparently I need to create a NANDROID backup first, but I can't do it with a locked bootloader? And if i unlock the bootloader, my data will be wiped? This alone seems completely illogical to me, because how am I going to backup my device then? Is there no simple step by step guide for Nexus devices, that includes EVERYTHING, from backup to the final flashing of the ROM?
This is a good guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
I've seen it and it doesn't answer my question. How do I unlock the bootloader to create a backup, without wiping my device?
jb91 said:
I've seen it and it doesn't answer my question. How do I unlock the bootloader to create a backup, without wiping my device?
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You can't unlock the bootloader without wiping the device. The only backup you will be able to make without an unlocked bootloader is copying your sdcard to your pc and use an app like helium to backup your apps and data. Just remember to copy that backup to your pc as well, otherwise it will be wiped.
theminikiller said:
You can't unlock the bootloader without wiping the device. The only backup you will be able to make without an unlocked bootloader is copying your sdcard to your pc and use an app like helium to backup your apps and data. Just remember to copy that backup to your pc as well, otherwise it will be wiped.
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Thanks. Do you know this "Nexus Root Toolkit" program? I was able to create a backup file containing all apps with it, as well as extract a file with my contacts data from my Nexus 4. I'm guessing this should also include my SMS / WhatsApp messages and so on?
jb91 said:
Thanks. Do you know this "Nexus Root Toolkit" program? I was able to create a backup file containing all apps with it, as well as extract a file with my contacts data from my Nexus 4. I'm guessing this should also include my SMS / WhatsApp messages and so on?
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Unfortunately I don't know much about that. You could skim through some of the thread or search to find out if someone else has asked that question and if not ask it there. That would probably be the easiest way to find out.
This is extremely confusing, I have no idea how people can say it is simple to put a custom ROM on a Nexus device. I am absolutely lost trying to back up everything. Is a NANDROID backup just a full backup of the phone? Am I not completely screwed if I can't create this? I have some random app files, extracted from a Root Toolkit, and a contacts file. I don't think that's enough to save my device in case anything goes wrong during flashing?
One of the sticky threads here mentions this right at the beginning:
Before you do anything EVER, you'll always have to backup your stuff, even if you don't feel like it, or your dog died (in which case I'm truly sorry), but, no matter what you're about to do, always have a recent backup sitting around.
There are many ways and things you can and will probably have to backup.
1. Backup your entire phone, by creating a Nandroid Backup.
As you saw in the 'Custom Recovery" picture above, you have a "Backup and Restore" option.
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But it doesn't make any sense. "Before I do anything", I can't even create the NANDROID backup to begin with, because the bootloader is not unlocked by default, and unlocking it will wipe everything on the device. So I don't get how the first step to put a ROM on a phone is to create a NANDROID backup, because from my understanding, it is not possible to do. Also, my Nexus 4 did not come with a "custom recovery" installed and I have no idea how to put this on there (do i do this before or after the NANDROID backup?). I'm really starting to wonder how anyone actually understands these guides.
jb91 said:
This is extremely confusing, I have no idea how people can say it is simple to put a custom ROM on a Nexus device. I am absolutely lost trying to back up everything. Is a NANDROID backup just a full backup of the phone? Am I not completely screwed if I can't create this? I have some random app files, extracted from a Root Toolkit, and a contacts file. I don't think that's enough to save my device in case anything goes wrong during flashing?
One of the sticky threads here mentions this right at the beginning:
But it doesn't make any sense. "Before I do anything", I can't even create the NANDROID backup to begin with, because the bootloader is not unlocked by default, and unlocking it will wipe everything on the device. So I don't get how the first step to put a ROM on a phone is to create a NANDROID backup, because from my understanding, it is not possible to do. Also, my Nexus 4 did not come with a "custom recovery" installed and I have no idea how to put this on there (do i do this before or after the NANDROID backup?). I'm really starting to wonder how anyone actually understands these guides.
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Following the link to the guide, I see this:
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Unlocking the Bootloader:
***NOTE***
This will perform a factory reset on your device. You will lose all applications. Even the data on your SD Card! I'd recommend making a Backup to your computer BEFORE performing this. There is a method for backing your data up, detailed HERE.
For the time being, there is a method available that will allow you to unlock your device (and root it) without losing your data.
For instructions, click HERE. Please note: this is a hack and isn't the "conventional" and "accepted" way of unlocking your bootloader on a nexus device. The wipe requirement is there for your safety, really, and I'm certain this will be patched in the upcoming releases.
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But you can always use adb directly from your pc to backup your entire device. How? adb --help
adb backup [-f <file>] [-apk|-noapk] [-obb|-noobb] [-shared|-noshared] [-all] [-system|-nosystem] [<packages...>]
- write an archive of the device's data to <file>.
If no -f option is supplied then the data is written
to "backup.ab" in the current directory.
(-apk|-noapk enable/disable backup of the .apks themselves
in the archive; the default is noapk.)
(-obb|-noobb enable/disable backup of any installed apk expansion
(aka .obb) files associated with each application; the default
is noobb.)
(-shared|-noshared enable/disable backup of the device's
shared storage / SD card contents; the default is noshared.)
(-all means to back up all installed applications)
(-system|-nosystem toggles whether -all automatically includes
system applications; the default is to include system apps)
(<packages...> is the list of applications to be backed up. If
the -all or -shared flags are passed, then the package
list is optional. Applications explicitly given on the
command line will be included even if -nosystem would
ordinarily cause them to be omitted.)
greg17477 said:
But you can always use adb directly from your pc to backup your entire device. How? adb --help
adb backup [-f <file>] [-apk|-noapk] [-obb|-noobb] [-shared|-noshared] [-all] [-system|-nosystem] [<packages...>]
- write an archive of the device's data to <file>.
If no -f option is supplied then the data is written
to "backup.ab" in the current directory.
(-apk|-noapk enable/disable backup of the .apks themselves
in the archive; the default is noapk.)
(-obb|-noobb enable/disable backup of any installed apk expansion
(aka .obb) files associated with each application; the default
is noobb.)
(-shared|-noshared enable/disable backup of the device's
shared storage / SD card contents; the default is noshared.)
(-all means to back up all installed applications)
(-system|-nosystem toggles whether -all automatically includes
system applications; the default is to include system apps)
(<packages...> is the list of applications to be backed up. If
the -all or -shared flags are passed, then the package
list is optional. Applications explicitly given on the
command line will be included even if -nosystem would
ordinarily cause them to be omitted.)
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Is ADB this "Android Studio" that I had to install in the first step of this guide (Android SDK)? If so, I opened it but I have no clue how to get anywhere where i could enter code like this. This is what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/zhujSKR.png
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Is ADB this "Android Studio" that I had to install in the first step of this guide (Android SDK)? If so, I opened it but I have no clue how to get anywhere where i could enter code like this. This is what it looks like: http://i.imgur.com/zhujSKR.png
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Sorry, i can not help you , if you do not know the basic of basics Lots to read up for you.
cheers
Well ok, lets try it another way: i don't understand how to create a full backup, but i did backup some single apps to my PC using Nexus Root Toolkit (they're .ab files), for which i want to keep my data. I also manually backed up my mp3s and pictures / videos. Would i be fine just starting with the actual process (unlocking bootloader, install custom recovery and so on)?
After all, i should have the possibility to revert anything back for these apps at least, and the official Nexus 4 Stock Android files are available at Google. So, there's no real risk, even without a FULL backup of everything, correct?
Has anyone used titanium backup to debloat?
If you have root it gives the option to uninstall system apps.