my mt4g is rooted but i cant delete or move the bloatwares.
astro>system>app (it says: error deleting files)
i dont understand whats going on bcus the steps seem simple but somehow its neither deleting nor allowing it to be moved to my sd card.
any help would be most grateful. thanks in advance.
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and one last question. now that my phones rooted, s=off, may i delete visionary, the terminal emulator, and superuser???
>> i have more tasks running now that its rooted along with my inability to remove the bloatware
For your first question, astro cannot delete system apps if you're not mounted r/w, which you wont be by default. Root Explorer gives you the option to mount r/w and then delete apps. alternatively, you may want to install titanium backup and use the "freeze" feature so you can easily restore them if you want in the future.
You can remove visionary, and the terminal emulator if you want, but you'll need the superuser app to grant root permission to any apps that require root in the future.
Don't arbitrarily delete bloat. Use Titanium to freeze apps you don't want like option94 suggested. Some of those apps are tied into the sense ui and deleting them can make things screwy. After freezing in Titanium, if everything is working well, you can delete if you want. Make a nandroid backup before you do anything permanent. I would leave the stock rom alone and flash a rom like iced glacier which is basically optimized stock with all the bloat removed. Don't forget the make backup part.
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thanks i didnt quite understand what 'mount r/w' means or what it really does but as long as changing it to 'mount r/o' makes those unnecessary apps go away, im happy. thanks again
r/w = read/write - you'll be able to make changes
r/o = read only - you wont be able to make changes.
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Coming from a Mt3g that I've ran exclusively with Cyanogen mod since I got it, I've become quite used to running a very slim, light phone, and getting this today with all this bloatware is driving me nuts. Anyone been successful getting these apps off theirs phones? I'm already rooted, and have astro installed, but didn't quite know what to remove.
Would prefer not having to use adb, as it doesn't work well with Win7
Use Root Manager and delete what u want. be careful what u delete tho.
how do u remove the icons of these crapps from the app menu?
After you delete them with root manager and re set the phone, they should be gone.
Yup. Granted I used ADB, but root manager will work too. Just make sure you delete the apk and the odex.
I deleted mine with root explorer .. worked fine for me...
Yep, I thought Astro had root access but I was wrong, snagged root explorer and cleaned my phone up rather nicely.
Any stock apps cause issues if removed?
try this thread. there are some u can remove and some you shouldn't remove.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712546
Guys I know you can use root manager to delete the bloatware on this phone. How can you delete the .apk files using ADB? I searched but it doesn't seem to work. Any instructions on how its done.
http://www.careace.net/2010/05/12/how-to-remove-android-apps-through-adb/
Thanx but I thought you needed some type of recovery application. No?
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I know this is a bit of a noob question. But I have been using root explorer to "move" apk and odec that I do not need. Is is that simple? There is no "uninstall" process, you just remove/delete the apk/odec?
That should be the same as rm -r in ADB and that's what I've been doing for the last couple of years. Proper or not, it does the trick
When I got the phone I think it had 4 pages of bloatware apps? I'm down to 2 and couldn't be happier.
I don't think the remount on root explorer works properly however, I had to remount between rw and ro with terminal.
ADB doesn't work well, I need to set up some sort of remote ssh so I can just run all of these commands from a shell on my desktop.
i have a rooted droid x running the version above. i am not interested in running custom roms, i just want root so i can run whatever apps i want to. after rooting i downloaded wireless tether and the free version of titanium backup. wireless tether is my only means of connecting my computer to the internet. i ran a complete backup after downloading titanium backup. just messing around one day i removed cardock and blockbuster from the phone. i have restored blockbuster but can not get cardock restored. my phone has downloaded the latest ota update and wants me to install it. from what i have read, i will need cardock restored. is this correct and if so how can i get it back? i am fairly good with a puter but new to android. i rooted using doroot for windows. all help is much appreciated.
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i have a rooted droid x running the version above. i am not interested in running custom roms, i just want root so i can run whatever apps i want to. after rooting i downloaded wireless tether and the free version of titanium backup. wireless tether is my only means of connecting my computer to the internet. i ran a complete backup after downloading titanium backup. just messing around one day i removed cardock and blockbuster from the phone. i have restored blockbuster but can not get cardock restored. my phone has downloaded the latest ota update and wants me to install it. from what i have read, i will need cardock restored. is this correct and if so how can i get it back? i am fairly good with a puter but new to android. i rooted using doroot for windows. all help is much appreciated.
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2.3.15 is soooo yesterday
look into some deblured Rom's. Easier to get rid of the Crapware with a Rom than one at a time. that could cause other issue.
IMHO there are easier tools to root like 4Zroot.
Your heading in the correct direction keep on reading the threads and different sites.
please read my post again. i am not interested in roms.
Stock apks
www . chadhaney . com / droidXDefault / ( wont allow me to post links) but go there...
Let me know what happens... I'm in the same boat. No roms, just titanium back up and wireless tether ( which I never use ) Titanium Pro allows you to freeze apps so they dont run and you dont have to delete them.
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According to droid x forums, if your rooted, and have all the original apk/apps on the phone you should be able to update to 2.3.34. Make sure that every setting is stock too. No frozen apps, etc... You will lose root. Then they recommend Z4root to re-root.
Successful install
I was running 2.3.15 rooted, no leak, installed 2.3.34 OTA with no problems.
I used Z4Root 1.3 to re-root my droid x. If you were previously rooted you should select the unroot option from Z4Root first. Phone will restart and then select permanent root. Should be good to go after that...
I did it the hard way... wish I had un-rooted first!
Thanks for helping eyepopper. I downloaded the apk file but it would not install. I assume I need to move it manually but don't know where it goes. The odex file opened when I selected it and looks like code. Not sure how to get it where I need it either. I am using astro for my files.
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Are you using the phones browser? Try going the chad website thru the phones browser (I use dolphin browser) download it to the phone. Then run the apk thru the browser, go one step further and make sure that you checked off to allow other non market apps to run in applications. Astro app is the problem most likely.
i am using the stock browser but the page just reloads when i select the apk file and opens a window showing gibberish when i select the odex file. i have the 2 files on my sd card under titanium backup and was able to copy and paste them from /sd/titanium backup to /sd but i can't get them to copy and paste to the system folder or the framework folder. as soon as i leave /sd the paste function grays out. looks like your are the only one willing to help me and i am very grateful for it. i need to go on and get this done and be thru with it so i can enjoy the holidays. can you meet me in a chat somewhere and see if we can get this done? pm me ur info if you can. thanks again...
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hi, i was wondering if you could look at my post concerning updating to the latest ota. (it's in the general droid x section) i have the files but can't get them off my sd card onto the phone.
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Ok you will need to connect your phone to your computer. Open a command prompt and type the following commands:
*make sure your phone's usb mode is Charge Only
1) type: Adb devices (make sure your phone gets listed as a device)
2) type: adb shell (press enter)
3) type: su (press enter)
4) type: mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock 4 /system
I'm not sure where you have the cardock.apk on your sdcard, but this next step will require you to know the path to your .apk
5) type: cp /mnt/sdcard/<path to CarDock.apk> /system/app/CarDock/apk
if just on the sdcard then it would be "cp /mnt/sdcard/CarDock.apk /system/app/CarDock.apk
6) type: cd /system/app
7) type: chmod 644 CarDock.apk
8) type: exit
you may need to type exit one more time, but when you return to a normal command prompt, type the following:
adb reboot.
Make sure to take a backup before you do any of this, as if you mess anything up in /system your phone can wind up hosed....
Hope this helps. As a last resort, you could always take a backup of your phone, and then perform the 2.3.15 full sbf and restore the apps that way (make sure to perform a factory reset as well. Then you would be able to perform the OTA update and shouldn't have any problems.
Hope this helps! Lemme know if you need more help.
You can also refer to this link if you want more info...
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...w-reinstall-system-apps-_as_-system-apps.html
great post SysAdmin-X, thanks. i haven't used adb manually before but i know if your not careful 1 little missed space or wrong key stroke will mess you up so i opted to go with the post you provided a link for.
i downloaded root explorer and was able to move my files successfully from my sd card to the system apps folder but could not get them to show up afterwards in titanium backup. i figured since they were files i manually removed from tb they were prolly named wrong so to be right i went to this link and downloaded the entire zip. i was then able to place those 2 files in the /system/app folder and after rebooting they showed up in tb. finally...yea!!! ok, i remember reading somewhere they needed to be in the /system/framework folder as well. does anyone know if this is fact? if the update looks for them there and doesn't find them it won't install correctly or at all, so i'm told.
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great post SysAdmin-X, thanks. i haven't used adb manually before but i know if your not careful 1 little missed space or wrong key stroke will mess you up so i opted to go with the post you provided a link for.
i downloaded root explorer and was able to move my files successfully from my sd card to the system apps folder but could not get them to show up afterwards in titanium backup. i figured since they were files i manually removed from tb they were prolly named wrong so to be right i went to this link and downloaded the entire zip. i was then able to place those 2 files in the /system/app folder and after rebooting they showed up in tb. finally...yea!!! ok, i remember reading somewhere they needed to be in the /system/framework folder as well. does anyone know if this is fact? if the update looks for them there and doesn't find them it won't install correctly or at all, so i'm told.
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possibly with Root Explorer tool you could change the permissions of the moved apps to rwrr.
this way you phone can see them and use them.
Kdinc is right about changing the permissions using root explorer. Make sure to set the as user: read and write, group: read, and other: read. Should look like this after: rw-r--r--
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Ok so after much lots of frustration realising I'd lost access to the delete system apps after installing HTC 1.72.405.3 (in LeeDrOiD 1.3) I've finally figured out a way to do it and without needing to use ROM Cleaner then re-flash a ROM wich would remove all my data/apps/ect I've loaded. Now this may well be a guide for you guys like me who are very new to Unix commands and the whole Android system. I hope that it helps someone coz honestly the last couple of days I've searched high and low and haven't gotten any answers that worked until I worked it out tonight.
Just as a quick note I was able to delete apps from the /system/app folder before this update when I was still on 1.32.405.6 using Visionary+ in loading R/W access to the system folder on boot and a simple file manager like Astro or AndroZip to delete. Since updating to 1.72.405.3 without Radio S-Off I've tried the following methods and found they don't work:
- Flashing rmk40's Super User/Root patch for 1.72.405.3 as in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886999
- Visionary+ selecting R/W system access then using a file manager like Astro or AndroZip to delete.
- Terminal Emulator after getting "supposed" super user access after typing su then going to the /system/data folder and typing rm Facebook.apk ect... also using the other unix commands to try and change the system apps from read only to writable still no access.
- Using Root Explorer which is granted "supposed" super user access does not want to mount as R/W the system/app folder and of course then won't let me delete the apps.
- One click Radio S-Off doens't work as obviously I'm already locked out as I've loaded 1.72.405.3 (LeeDrOiD 1.3) before running Radio S-Off.
- Re-flashing to a previous 1.32.405 ROM then trying to run Radio S-Off followed by all the steps above. Nope nuthin...
Okay and here is is here's how it's done. I had to have the Android SDK installed with USB drivers (HTC Sync has the USB Drivers). I then in windows I opened up command prompt and using the good old DOS commands like "cd\program files (x64)" I go to my android sdk folder platform-tools. Once in the platform-tools let the foreign Unix commands begin
Without the exclamation marks type I type "adb remount shell"
Then "adb shell rm /system/app/Facebook.apk"
Now Facebook.apk being an example of the app you want to delete. I use a file browser such as Astro on my phone to go the the /system/app folder and easily look around and get the file names of the apps I want to delete. An important thing to remember for all the other's unfamiliar with Unix commands like myself, this ain't DOS. Unlike DOS, files and commands are case sensitive so if you try to delete the Facebook app and type it in "facebook.apk" all lower case it won't delete. Make note of any letters uppercase or lowercase in the folder name and file and type it in correctly in the Unix commands or they won't work.
The other two important things to note before you go on a Spring cleaning, delete frenzy (like I will be after I finish typing this up ) is: 1) If you delete some certain system apps (for example TelephonyProvider.apk) Android will **** itself and after booting enter a loop where you can't access anything & you can't stop it complaining about blah blah app failed. So make sure you have on your microSD card either a Nandroid backup done recently using the Backp/Restore function under the Bootloader installed with Clockwork Recovery or a working ROM that you've tried and know works such as the stock ROM or a custom ROM from LeeDrOiD, Cyanogen, ect. If you get into one of those non recoverable loops you'll need to flash the ROM and of course loose any data and apps not backed up. Okay this brings me to my next point. 2) If you want to copy any of the system apps off to your microSD card either to backup or just if you're not 100% sure if you may want to install it again later then in command prompt type this:
"adb shell cp /system/app/Calculator.apk /sdcard/"
Obviously here Calculator.apk is the app we are copying but you can choose any app to copy. Also /sdcard/ means it will go to the root folder of your MicroSD card.
Stick it to tha man and have fun cleaning up your ROM and deleting all that crap bloatware your service provider and HTC don't wanna give you access to and now without the cripple of HTC update 1.72.405.3 stopping you!
Are these persistent changes? If so I think you will be the saviour of many on here!
Are you sure the apps are not back when you reboot your phone?
I'd be pretty surprised if they're persistent.
sorry i can't see how this has worked. unless by some weird chance when trying to get s-off, gain root and what esle you have try to do. has caused you to be able to r/w to the system partition.
cattleprod sorry i can't see how this has worked. unless by some weird chance when trying to get s-off, gain root and what esle you have try to do. has caused you to be able to r/w to the system partition.
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Ok I assure you it has worked and continues to work. One possible major difference I've just been told supposedly the stock HTC RUU 1.72.405.3 reverts you back to original hboot eng s-on. Me on the other hand I never loaded a stock HTC ROM 1.72.405.3 or an update. I loaded LeeDroiD 1.3 which has in it the base as 1.72.405.3 but also his modifications to that. So never lost clockwork recovery hboot. I can still load ROMs fine, I just lost functionallity from Visionary+ or anything else for that matter on the phone to access System folder R/W access. Using ADB on my PC as described above however did solve this. Unfortunately the other issue is after loading LeeDroid 1.3 it's permanently done something to my phone and even after flashing back to previous stock 1.32ROM the 1click Radio S-Off patch does absolutely nothing. Luckily Vodafone supposedly offers a free SIM unlock and there are also cheap alternatives on ebay.
dr.m0x I'd be pretty surprised if they're persistent.
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Eddie1506 Are you sure the apps are not back when you reboot your phone?
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andyharney Are these persistent changes? If so I think you will be the saviour of many on here!
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Yes guys these are all persistant. I've rebooted quite a few times and none of the apps I've deleted have come back. These are the apps I've deleted from the "/system/app" folder and they 4 sure have not come back to annoy me: Facebook (crackbook as I like to say ), Twitter & Flickr including any widgets of the same name, stock or shares trading apps, default internet browser (replaced it with Dolphin HD), Flashlight (replaced it with moddified HTC one that says "torch" as I'm not a fan of US English), HTC Likes, HTC coin, probably some others I can't remember now.
So anyway go for it just use your clockwork recovery (modified hboot) to do a full backup first as if you remove the wrong system apps it goes in a non working error loop.
I'm only real new to the whole Android thing. Only had the phone 4 bout 2 weeks and never hit up any Unix commands before then. I'm happy to help out if I can though. Just message me and when I'm on next I'll try to help.
I apologize if this has been answered before, I have been searching for days (on XDA and Google) but to no avail.
My problem is that, whenever I perform any WRITE operation to my Wildfire's system/ folder, the phone will do a hard-restart. Here are some examples:
a) Titanium Backup's "Uninstall" for any system app
- I have tried every "Root/Stock Uninstaller" app on the market, all cause hard-crashes.
b) Manually deleting or renaming an APK file under system/apps/ using any file manager, or DroidExplorer on PC
- What happens here, is that the file manager will appear to succeed the delete/rename, but upon refreshing the folder the APK returns. Within ten seconds the phone will hard-crash.
c) Running NinjaMorph, the "startup checks" causes a hard-crash (AFTER I have allowed it with SuperUser)
d) Many more which I cannot remember at the moment.
I am using the Sunaabh v1.1 ROM, and I unlocked it with unrevoked3. I did make a backup of the original Telstra Pre-Paid Eclair ROM, but really don't want to have to go back until last resort. What can I try to do?
Should I go through the unrevoked method again? Is my phone somehow NAND locked or S-ON or something? Should I try a different ROM? Could it be HTC Sense or some other "protection" service that is blocking me out? Or maybe the busybox or clockworkmod on the NAND is bad... if so, where can I find a new recommended one?
Last night I did a full reset/cache-clear/dalvik-erase in Nandroid, then reflashed Sunaabh v1.1, and did NO other flashing or mods or installs, but - (a) connect to WiFi (b) Let market update itself (c) Install Titanium Backup Pro (d) Try to uninstall system app, and the crash still occurred.
Thanks in advance for any help. I am quite new to Android so I apologize if there's any confusion or nonsense here
EDIT: Oh, also, Titanium Backup is using it's own copy of BusyBox via the option, which doesn't help, so I assume the BusyBox on NAND (from unrevoked3 I believe) is fine.....
you won't be able to do anything to the /system folder, or ninjamorph, or metamorph while your phone is booted since we still have s-on.
when we get s-off, you'll be able to do all these things while your phone is booted.
And for the completeness: if you want to change something in that folder, reboot your wildfire in recovery and select "mount /system" in the option "mount". Then you can push and pull as many files in and out that folder as you like.
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Aha, I see! Thanks for the clarification, silly newbie mistake! So in conclusion, mount in nandroid to mess with the system until an S-OFF method for Wildfire is devised. Thanks heaps guys I was worried my phone was borked!
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hey guys, thanks to this forum i got my new mt4g rooted and customized in no time the perma root method with gfree was the one that finally worked for me after trying 2 others..
anyways to the point, root explorer and titanium backup pro are both paid apps as far as i see on the market with this method you can backup your bloat ware and uninstall it for free and reinstall in case you need to.
1) get titanium backup free version
2) you must be rooted and s-off
3) go to your terminal emulator and type su
4) cd /system/app
5) type ls, you will see all files in the directory
6) look for the .apk file you need to backup, (for example Monopoly_Classic.apk)
7) then type, cp Monopoly_Classic.apk /sdcard , this will copy the file to your sdcard root
8) repeat for everything you want to uninstall
9) uninstall the bloatware with titanium backup
10) done
i have tested by reinstalling monopoly and the game plays like it did before.
cheers
. . . or just download a new ROM and flash it. If you really like Sense, you can get a Sense ROM. If you're not particularly attached to Sense, you can get CyanogenMod or one of the other AOSP ROMs. It's much easier and faster than doing all this crap by hand, and it's probably better for your phone anyway.
true, i have read here that the video chat apps have some problems with the 3rd party roms thats why i have not installed any roms on my phone but if it works on a 3rd party rom plz tell me which, anyways i was going to write a script to backup all the safe to remove bloatware so ppl can do it in 1 command... i can post that up later
thanks for your post, plz comment hows the video chat compatibility on 3rd party roms