thinking bout picking up the verizon play and wondering if we'll get a sub forum for the 800x, since it is cdma and the others are gsm wouldn't it be bad to haver it all in one? we had a huge problem in the fascinate forums since there was a gsm and cdma one but since people don't read and some didn't state which in the start had a ton of soft bricks and that lead you the whole lot of I'm bricked fix my phone noobie threads lol... so is there enough hardware difference between them to justify another forum?
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anyone else have thoughts...
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I agree
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I agree
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My Xperia Play has GSM and WCDMA.
What is the difference between WCDMA and CDMA?
Do I have the best version?
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My Xperia Play has GSM and WCDMA.
What is the difference between WCDMA and CDMA?
Do I have the best version?
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CDMA phones are diffrent from GSM ones, they dont use a sim card, and require diffrent radios and roms from our GSM phones
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CDMA phones are diffrent from GSM ones, they dont use a sim card, and require diffrent radios and roms from our GSM phones
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So WCDMA is the best then?
Do some Xperia Play's only come with GSM and no WCDMA option?
With WCDMA enabled i get an "H" appearing for my data connection. And it is super fast. Just like broadband.
Youtube videos stream in HD no problem at all.
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So WCDMA is the best then?
Do some Xperia Play's only come with GSM and no WCDMA option?
With WCDMA enabled i get an "H" appearing for my data connection. And it is super fast. Just like broadband.
Youtube videos stream in HD no problem at all.
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WCDMA (Wideband CDMA) descibes a platform that can be convenient for the deployment of 3G. this is because of its spreading bandwidth -5MHz.
CDMA is a complete cellular system which was employed for 2G and now for 3G network. CDMA2000 is the version of CDMA system for 3G.
see there not the same thing CDMA is a type of network, while WCDMA is a radio technology, you get better reception on WCDMA rather than GSM because it uses a wider signal
+1 I agree its causing alot of confusion
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Sub forum? seriously? the Play forum is pretty dead already, why on earth would you want to split it up and make it even worse?
just tag your post [R800x] or [R800i] etc it will solve alot of the issue. but like person above me said these place is like a god damn ghost town for some reason. I honestly thought devs would be all over this phone least on vzw side as being a ASOP phone and having game controls...
well the verizon one only been out a couple of days and peoples upgrades mostly went to dx2 and the inc2 I would imagine. I know its dead and everything and if people would tag their post it would solve the problem, but people don't do that. it saves a lot of time and bricks in the long run to just split the development into a gsm thread and a cdma one. also people don't read so tagging doesn't always work lol
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Sub forum? seriously? the Play forum is pretty dead already, why on earth would you want to split it up and make it even worse?
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I'm so seconding this...
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if its dead what does it matter either way. but when the "omg I flashed 800i update to my verizon phone, am I bricked?" start in ima say told ya so
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if its dead what does it matter either way. but when the "omg I flashed 800i update to my verizon phone, am I bricked?" start in ima say told ya so
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Yeah, we'll have to wait until people actually root the Verizon Xperia Play. So far most of the methods I've tried have not worked terribly well. Gingerbreak holes are confirmed as closed, and I haven't had much luck with psneuter or rageinthecage via ADB either (could be just me doing it wrong, but it worked for other phones). Secondly, the bootloader unlock doesn't seem to work for CDMA due to no real IMEI number (just ESN), and the IMEI availble via ADB doesn't report correctly.
We have 2 fascinate models sharing a forum. Once everyone understood marking their posts, there has not been to many problems. I Say either is fine.
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We have 2 fascinate models sharing a forum. Once everyone understood marking their posts, there has not been to many problems. I Say either is fine.
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yea I know been there from day one so many bricks happened the first week do to a gsm n cdma being named the same and also a bunch of boot issues thanks to there being two sch-i500 on different cdma carriers until people finally stopped flagging the wrong modems. that's why the mesmerize got its own thread, same exact model number but different software.
rather we get another or not doesn't truly matter to me, just trying to be a friendly guy and save people some headache I'll be getting a xperia play either way and I'll be reading everything throughly so yea lol
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yea I know been there from day one so many bricks happened the first week do to a gsm n cdma being named the same and also a bunch of boot issues thanks to there being two sch-i500 on different cdma carriers until people finally stopped flagging the wrong modems. that's why the mesmerize got its own thread, same exact model number but different software.
rather we get another or not doesn't truly matter to me, just trying to be a friendly guy and save people some headache I'll be getting a xperia play either way and I'll be reading everything throughly so yea lol
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Oh, I agree with you no doubt, when the canada fascinate got gingerbread to work it was a mess. I admit the play forums are a tad more confusing.
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good luck to you guys, im out!
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What prl are you ns4g users running? Some have a theory this is whats causing the bad signal. Im on 01115.
also we would like to know what version/model you have of the ns4g. we are testing a theory here.
to find out the hardware version do: *#*#debug#*#* --> configuration--> Hardware version. "you will need your msl for this"
also let us know if your having signal issues.
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60679 was 60678 im now holding one bar more often than before which was no bars
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i'm on 01115. coverage is decent, but super slow data speeds in some areas.
I'm on 01115. My signal issues are mixed.
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Bring it to a service and repair store and have them update it through celebrite
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I'm on 60678 might signal is low but I never drop calls and data is decent.
seems were all on different prl's and all still having issues. i still think the root cause is the radio or antenna.
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I'm on 01115 and it is not as good as I had on either my Evo or my Epic, but I never lose signal. Data speeds are slower than my wife's Epic in the same location though.
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I'm on 01115 and it is not as good as I had on either my Evo or my Epic, but I never lose signal. Data speeds are slower than my wife's Epic in the same location though.
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i had the same prl on my evo 2 weeks ago and my signal was fine on a aosp rom with 4 bars. so the less bars argument is invalid.
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and what is this suppose to do for us?
well you don't have to do anything. It's for people that want more prl's to try
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well you don't have to do anything. It's for people that want more prl's to try
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gotcha but i don't think another prl will fix the issues. posts are starting to pop up on the web about faulty hardware. if that's the truth were screwed. im shocked samsung , google or sprint has not made a statement with all of the press about it. htc responded right away about the evo3d.
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gotcha but i don't think another prl will fix the issues. posts are starting to pop up on the web about faulty hardware. if that's the truth were screwed. im shocked samsung , google or sprint has not made a statement with all of the press about it. htc responded right away about the evo3d.
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Lets see if we can start a trend. We should start a thread to see what version of hardware people ended up with. Do *#*#debug#*#* --> configuration--> Hardware version: D720.06
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Lets see if we can start a trend. We should start a thread to see what version of hardware people ended up with. Do *#*#debug#*#* --> configuration--> Hardware version: D720.06
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i was thinking the same thing my man. i wonder if some of the users who just got their phones and are not having issues own a 2nd revision of the phone. this happened on the evo as well.
bought mine on launch. Hardware Version: D720.06
Also, from what I understand a PRL of 01115 simply means there is a corporate discount on your account. Enables 3G roaming? Can't find the source now.
I have a 25% discount through a credit union and my PRL is 01115.
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bought mine on launch. Hardware Version: D720.06
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same here and i have the same model.
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posts are starting to pop up on the web about faulty hardware.
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Factual posts, with data to prove their theory, or uneducated guesses only said to incite panic?
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Factual posts, with data to prove their theory, or uneducated guesses only said to incite panic?
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sprint has already acknowledged there is an issue. i assume your one of the ones who have no problems. so do us a favor and post what we requested. the signal issues and wrong radio band is factual.
How about no.
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Hope this will help make a root possible for our Verizon Plays. I am willing to flash my phone if someone makes a solution.
multiupload.com/66W2GWUPFR
I don't even know what these files are but I hope it helps lol
Why do people even have the verizon version of the play? In my opinion I doubt that root will ever happen nevermind unlocking the bootloader for those phones, the amount of time and effort it would take would be crazy. I would personally get a different one
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We have them because att sucks in my area, and it was the only option I can get that I can pay the lease :/ I really wanted a play and thats the only one I can get for 50$ it was this or the droid x2 which... sometimes I think I should of got or waited for the droid bionic
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Why do people even have the verizon version of the play? In my opinion I doubt that root will ever happen nevermind unlocking the bootloader for those phones, the amount of time and effort it would take would be crazy. I would personally get a different one
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because all in all it is a really nice phone, on par with the other 1GHz phones out there on the Verizon network just sacrificed 2-8GB of internal storage for a slide out controller.
Motorola locked out their bootloader but you still see people attempting to get past them, what makes this phone any different? OMG it has a GAMEPAD.
Either someone will figure it out or not, no use *****ing about what people picked, it was their decision. I am surprised my old piece of crap Eris had the following it did. Someone will figure it out. As this was mentioned before, for there being 1 CDMA model to the what 8 GSM versions it will just take a little longer then normal.
Or the GSM side will just spit in the CDMA side of it's face and attempt to forget about it, Either way it is still an amazing phone.
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... it was this or the droid x2 which... sometimes I think I should of got or waited for the droid bionic
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My wife got a Droid 3 and I was green with envy.... dual core OMAP... HDMI out... (no 4g in our area yet)... HUGE internal memory... amazing keyboard... until I tried to play Nova on it using the touch screen controls...
Gamepad all the way baby!!!
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really
koitsu1010 said:
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really mate, I find it very useful.. I did have Verizon version, I just flashed the UK generic firmware and now it doesn't matter.
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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It would get a bit mad if every provider got his own board... I'm getting annoyed with all the verizon talk that's going on. But since a lot of things are universal I wouldn;t want the boards to get split up.
Just don't open threads that state that they are for the R800i or for the rogers version.
The reason why you find few useful info about the R800x is quite simple: nothing has happened: no root, no unlocked bootloaders, nada.
You USAns should exert real pressure on your carrier cartel so that you don't get different models per carrier instead of whining about other people discussing their phone.
Hey be happy you get Vanilla Android.
kidding yea it can be frustrating when the Rogers model launched I was frustrated because their was no information or anything about it here because the European model was already launched.
Give it some time it will all get sorted out soon besides there is nothing yet for the Verizon Play.
I expect root to arrive soon because most newer android handsets like the Droid3 haven't been rooted yet and even european and canadian plays can't be rooted at 2.3.3 unless you use the loophole through 2.3.2 but your device launched with 2.3.3 so that is where the problem is.
Are device came with 2.3.2 thats how lame we are
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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Nice, listen I don't bag on your country I just find it a little odd other divices have Verizon sup forums but not the play if you have nothing nice to say then dont
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There isn't any because there is nothing you can do for it presently? But I understand your frustration, going through hundreds of threads that is irrelevant to yourself is a huge waste of time.
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Development is off to a slower start for the VZW Play but it will pick up eventually.
Just be thankful the members of this forum aren't always saying "Search before posting noob!" like the rest of the forums out there.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Ya I go into the android development section only to check the r800x root thread to see if there is an update, but I don't mind having a combined board. Just hope root comes soon.
We do not need a separate forum for one model of the Xperia Play.
The only real difference between the Verizon model and the rest is GSM and CDMA.
Verizon's model came with 2.3.2 on it but there is something blocking the Gingerbreak exploit from working, All you can do it be patient and hope that the Verizon versions see's some attention.
You cant go into every thread demanding an answer or wanting something outrageous to be done about the phone. Doing that will just piss off current Dev's and could ultimately hurt it for everyone.
Just sit back, relax, have fun with your phone, donate to help convince the devs to help us out, or complain. your call, but the last option will just get people ignoring you.
OK i know this may sound extremely N00b, sadly i consider my self as a noob, why? well this is my first Android Cellphone ever, i'm more familiar with RIM, so i bought the mytouch 4g and i feel i made a mistake, i didn't read about the DATA frequency when i bought it, my provider here in south america works only on 850mhz, 1900mhz and 1800mhz, i know we can overclock a PC CPU, but it is possible to overclock a cellphone radio to go for example from 900mhz to 1900mhz???
Thanks!!!
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OK i know this may sound extremely N00b, sadly i consider my self as a noob, why? well this is my first Android Cellphone ever, i'm more familiar with RIM, so i bought the mytouch 4g and i feel i made a mistake, i didn't read about the DATA frequency when i bought it, my provider here in south america works only on 850mhz, 1900mhz and 1800mhz, i know we can overclock a PC CPU, but it is possible to overclock a cellphone radio to go for example from 900mhz to 1900mhz???
Thanks!!!
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nope, radio frequencies are hardware based and cannot be changed. sorry
i followed what this post* said about flashing your Radio thinking that this will open the rest of the BANDS but it didn't work, what does this "Flashing your Radio" do??
* post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
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i followed what this post* said about flashing your Radio thinking that this will open the rest of the BANDS but it didn't work, what does this "Flashing your Radio" do??
* post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
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sometimes it can give you better signal reception, depending on where you live.
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i followed what this post* said about flashing your Radio thinking that this will open the rest of the BANDS but it didn't work, what does this "Flashing your Radio" do??
* post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059347
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They are location based radios. They just affect signal quality and strength. Unfortunately that won't help you. I would just sell the phone. :/
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They are location based radios. They just affect signal quality and strength. Unfortunately that won't help you. I would just sell the phone. :/
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yes, this is a very great phone, you could sell it for at least $150
and if you achieve s-off and root on it, even more.
ooooh lord, well i will have to ship it back to the US where i can get more for this device, and it's rooted and S-OFF, also using the Virtuous ROM
my 3 year old son just dropped the g..d d...n cellphone and the camera it's not working, the rest of the phone is intact, so i have taken a decision, which HTC cellphone has the same spec hardware wise like the mt4g with this bands? 850mhz and 1900mhz??? am welling to brick my phone by testing it with another cellphone radio firmware and if it works, i will be able to enjoy at least 4g internet if it doesn't well the camera is damaged so i already lost 300 bucks.
Thanks for helping me out with this....
i found on google this code *#*#4636#*#* it takes you to a hidden menu where you can select different things, am wondering if someone can make a hack and enable the rest of the bands.
right now am just delirating
It is impossible to change the frequency on your phone. Stop trying to figure it out cause there is only one outcome and that is a bricked device. You are better off using it as a mini tablet then to brick your phone. You will never get it to work on any other frequencies then the ones listed....ever. I will repeat no matter what you do you will only end up with a dead device. So just don't do it
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The frequencies the phone works on belong to a chip on the board. This is hardware, not software. Sorry.
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What happened after the 3 months?
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What happened after the 3 months?
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Pretty sure he means he has been running it for almost 3 months... and still is...
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blah blah ST sucks, or they'll disconnect you, "air tank" prepaid crap will get you kicked off, use boost mobile, etc.
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Would the steps be identical to that of the fascinate except prior to that you'd have to flash a Verizon prl? I ask because even after the flash was successful, making a call still results in "we're sorry we are currently unable to authentic your phone".
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I'm def interested in this. I've been planning on going to straight talk. If I could take my epic with me that would be awesome!
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Would this be the same Coming from a Vzw on a Dinc2 to St? I know it wouldn't be exactly the same but for the most part would it be? Thanks in advance.
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I'm curious to know what 3G speeds you guys are getting. (I know it varies by location/coverage) but still.
Two Tips:
#1, make sure the Donor Phone can be read, in some way, even if its alternate methods, otherwise you're screwed.
#2, If you're flashing an Epic to any carrier that isn't Sprint, it's BEST to uninstall systemupdates.apk.
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Just wanted to thank justan00b for putting this together. He is truly a helpful community member, with a lot of patience and drive to be contributing to people who need help.
For months, I have sat on my EVO 3D, because I was not able to successfully write the HA, AAA, and the DMU stuff correctly to the phone to get the true 3G speeds. Granted, all Verizon MVNOs are capped to begin with, but using the EVO on 1X was not an option for me. Thanks to justan00b's guide, I will give this a whirl on Saturday and see how it goes...
Thanks again man!
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Depends where I'm at and my signal,but I've gotten download speeds almost 2mbps using speedtest.net app, slowest I'll get is sometimes .50 or .20 mbps down, just depends though. And care to explain on your first tip? What do you mean by can be read, as in can be read in dfs/cdma ws? And what do you mean or else you'll be screwed?
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I'm not sure if Verizon phones are any different, but on other prepaid carriers, the keys are much more difficult to read than others, so say the user following your guide tries it out with a phone that locks up and won't allow you to read the keys, they have a bad investment on their hands. Without the possibility of 1x/3G internet.
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Thanks for the detailed tut. The best so far for flashing to st. Gonna give this a shot once I get my vzw phone, should be here in a week. Will post an update once done. Wonder if you can get higher 3g speeds by using the full throttle tut posted here. Might give that a try when done.
It seems like with most things there are many ways to accomplish something. I just today flashed an EVO 4G over to ST. This is the second one I have done. First time I used a Handsfree Activation method because I did not have a VZ phone to activate an pull the data from. This time around I have a Fascinate and used a similar yet actually much different method then this. Im kicking myself because the first time around I searched like crazy and found the proper MMS settings and APN that got my MMS fully working, and well...did not save the info so now once again Im searching for it...lol. Now I know the HTC and Samsung MMS works differently on ST, but contrary to most peoples belief...the native MMS CAN be fixed and function 100% on the Samsungs. I have seen it personally working and am trying to get in touch with the flasher who set the phone up. If he gives up the secret I will post it here. If he doesnt then Im either going to try and track down the phone I seen working and see if the guy will allow me to take a peek into the settings and backup and pull a copy of the APN....or...lol...Im going to just send the flasher a Sprint Sammy and pay him to flash it. Then I can just pull the info from my own phone. Stay tuned to this thread...I will be posting the fix.
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It seems like with most things there are many ways to accomplish something. I just today flashed an EVO 4G over to ST. This is the second one I have done. First time I used a Handsfree Activation method because I did not have a VZ phone to activate an pull the data from. This time around I have a Fascinate and used a similar yet actually much different method then this. Im kicking myself because the first time around I searched like crazy and found the proper MMS settings and APN that got my MMS fully working, and well...did not save the info so now once again Im searching for it...lol. Now I know the HTC and Samsung MMS works differently on ST, but contrary to most peoples belief...the native MMS CAN be fixed and function 100% on the Samsungs. I have seen it personally working and am trying to get in touch with the flasher who set the phone up. If he gives up the secret I will post it here. If he doesnt then Im either going to try and track down the phone I seen working and see if the guy will allow me to take a peek into the settings and backup and pull a copy of the APN....or...lol...Im going to just send the flasher a Sprint Sammy and pay him to flash it. Then I can just pull the info from my own phone. Stay tuned to this thread...I will be posting the fix.
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When you used the handsfree method did your data work, and if it did can you share the instructions and where you got them from because i dont have a vzw phone to use for this method.