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The GPS function was disabled in Trinity and may be it will got a chance to re-enable it. But how about the USB Host function? Is there any way to enable it?
u have to buy an htc adaptor
I don't believe it, an adaptor?
I think it will be activated with a rom-update
Energie: source for that comment..?
I too think a rom-update is the thing...
Is their any word about the USB-Host in the new update?
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
banesi said:
What do you mean by "USB Host" ? I mean, that is hardware related thing so if you want to connect eg. flash disk to Trinity you must have some kind of adapter to do that, am I wrong?
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Yeah i think you're wrong.
It was said it was hardware implemented already (just like the GPS) but it just had to be activated with the new rom (just like the GPS)...
Any News anyone?
if we use this device http://cgi.ebay.de/USB-2-0-OTG-On-T...160683QQihZ016QQcategoryZ131881QQcmdZViewItem
does that mean, i can connect my trinity directly to a mobile USB HDD and access say 250 GB of music or pictures or movies?
Guys, STOP. There shouldn't be any USB host in Trinity, because if it has one, where would you find an idiot to buy any other PDA phone??????? That would kill the market. Even without USB host it's one of the best machines around. LOOX T830 was the only machine to have GPS and 3G, but it's a monster...
Trinity is the only PDA to ombine Wi-Fi, BT, 3G (inc. HSDPA), and GPS. Asking for USB host would be to much I'm afraid...
is this something you think or do you have proof?
Cuz this page says the trinity does have USB-OTG...
http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
Look at the second page, last part....
Well actually I want USB-Host (didnt know Trinity had the ability until today), Fm Radio (still not sure if there is a build in FM Radio Chip but Chinese site states it), and I want Airbag, ABS, DVD reader/writer (double sided ... no, better Blue Ray Disc), a Coffee machine, two bathrooms and an pop out 23 inch screen for TV...
It is a great device.
Well dudes, why do you keep on whining? The topic starter asks a serious question. You all keep posting crap. Please quit it, we all want answers.
I only know that the chip does support USB-OTG, but if it's hardware implemented? We don't know at the moment. But if it is, it's up to HTC to enable it.
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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u can use www.google.com & u can found it
What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
banesi said:
Well, can someone explain to me what is USB Host and what good is it for?
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What a smart guy, instead of posting stupid, useless reply maybe you can try again and find some info back in the dark corners of your brain?
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Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
saminegm said:
Well actually it is a good idea to use information sources by yourself first. By the way: Could you give me an overview of the history of Belgrade?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade
I do not see any mention of the HTC Trinity or USB Host.. but that could change
Man, that's exactly what I want to see with this question, many of you don't know either what USB host is and what is it for?! You keep posting things about hidden features in Trinity and moaning about it everyday but actually don't know what good it will get you, very strange.
So, smart guys, what will you do with your "USB Host" enabled Trinity ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the Trinity can act as a Host, you could connect an external HDD to it and transfer files. Or you could connect a memory card reader to empty your camera's card on the move.
hello,
i've heard that the universal WOULD support USB host drivers if an unconnected pin inside the universal was connected... could anyone tell me;
- if i manage to get the pin connected, would i get usb host features like on any other usb host phone with proper drivers?
- how hard is it to do?
- WHAT to do?
Oh man,really really nice interesting idea,hope it's true and possible,i hope someone knows all about that and soon writes here how that is possible maaan,would be really awesome to play with that
PalDragan said:
Oh man,really really nice interesting idea,hope it's true and possible,i hope someone knows all about that and soon writes here how that is possible maaan,would be really awesome to play with that
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nice to hear someone else would like to get it to work too
EDIT: just found this on another thread on another forum about a PXA270 phone, someone was trying to get it to work, seems like all we need is
- switch the pin to host mode
- a driver (maybe zenos latest ones?)
After about 6 months of not touching this project, I decided to take another quickie look at the PXA270 docs and programmers reference. What I now see is very interesting.
Originally, I was looking at bringing out the USB Host 1 interface pins to the outside world as they were only terminated internally on the motherboard. Only about 1% of users might be able to do that.
I then started to look at the USB OTG (On The Go) interface that this chip supports. The USB OTG interface can be used as both a client and host. It shares the same pins as the Axim's serial port. Unfortuately, there are two serial control lines pins that are not brought out to the connector, so I scrubbed that idea.
This past weekend I picked up the programmer's design reference book to look at how the various USB interfaces are programmed and I saw something that I missed before as this was in the USB Client section. It appears (to me anyways) that the USB Client pins can also be programmed to act as a USB Host when in the USB OTG low power operation mode. The manual discusses how the additional control registers are used along with an output mux and charge-pump circuit (to provide the +5v). Refer to the PXA27x Processor Family Developer's Manual - dated Jan 2006, sections 12.5.2 and 20.
I will be looking at this more closely to see if a simple driver can be written (Afarre, where are you...) to switch the USB client pins into Host mode. In addition to this, the USB device drivers would be needed. Please remember, an additional IO interface circuit will be needed to connect between any USB device and the Axim as the proper voltages are not on the sync connector.
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the_fish said:
nice to hear someone else would like to get it to work too
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Suuuuuuuuuure,every crazy idea to abuse my PPC and i'm in for the quest
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Suuuuuuuuuure,every crazy idea to abuse my PPC and i'm in for the quest
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haha same, btw thats the link to the topic:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/140071-hacking-pxa270-internal-usb-host-24.html
Unfortunately, this means it's not for 99% of users as it requires a delicate hardware mod/addition to the motherboard (see my earlier posts & photos in this thread).
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seems like they were still working on the driver (which we already have(?)) so we only need the hardware mod.... i guess...
the_fish said:
haha same, btw thats the link to the topic:
http://www.mobilitysite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/140071-hacking-pxa270-internal-usb-host-24.html
seems like they were still working on the driver (which we already have(?)) so we only need the hardware mod.... i guess...
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Ummm it's definately a crazy idea. We were discussing with mamaich (our guru) last year. Unfortunately it's not that simple to provide the power in sync connector, which is acting as a usb client (connector) at the moment.
tomal said:
Ummm it's definately a crazy idea. We were discussing with mamaich (our guru) last year. Unfortunately it's not that simple to provide the power in sync connector, which is acting as a usb client (connector) at the moment.
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did you read in the thread i posted a link to? they had the same problem, but also found out that it maybe is possible to provide the nessecary +5v too, they were not sure tho, and i thought maybe zenos drivers contain the code to do that.
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did you read in the thread i posted a link to? they had the same problem, but also found out that it maybe is possible to provide the nessecary +5v too, they were not sure tho, and i thought maybe zenos drivers contain the code to do that.
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Ok, seems there is a new idea of power injection from outside.
Anybody tried it...?
Couple of months ago, I was trying with outside +5v power but nothing happens
Win_XP said:
Couple of months ago, I was trying with outside +5v power but nothing happens
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did you use one of those special USB cables that have two female USB-A, one for power and the other for the device to plug in?
http://htc-tytn-ii.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+TyTN+II
i don't know anything about this.. i'm actually looking to hook up something that normally has a rs-232 port.. but is also made in usb.. It draws power from another source
with something like that program doesn't that suggest usb host is possible..
http://gnalpgnarf.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=gnalpgnarf
hmmm....am I right or am I wrong?
Theoretically speaking the idea with a pin is supposed to redirect power from intake to output, however, not only Uni is incapable of supporting the output (you are essentially attempting to piggyback another device), the external support will not be possible due to pin configuration, regardless of the cable used.
Another thing, other than sheer experimentation, what would be the real point of such USB host?
STOP TORTURING YOUR UNIs, GUYS!!!!
I am pretty sure, that the Universal doesn't support USB Host.
It did not, it does not, it will not.
Sorry guys!
To be honest:
Yes, the PXA270 chip supports USB Host, but in most HTC devices they use this feature already for something else, like: WLAN or 3G connection.
DOMy
seen this?:
http://hhtinker.blogspot.com/2008/10/usb-host-on-treo-650.html
do you know what USB Host already busy?
it used as data call transfer radio <-> CE.
USB hub will not solve this problem easy.
also if you want attach it to miniUSB connector, you need additional OTG chip.
=> Host on universal is very hard to do, ...impossible.
Hi all!
Now I know that there was a thread regarding the presumed USB Host functionality on the HD2, but that thread seems to be like dead... But now since the finished product has finally landed, I think we should start thinking about it again. Now we all know that the USB Host feature isnt listed officially, but there are rumours flying around suggesting that the feature is available in the HD2's chipset, which means that maybe there is a way to develop drivers for it or something. I remember one of the old HTC devices, which turned out to have USB Hos capabilities which were discovered by the community years after the device sowed up on the market So, in other words, if a possibility of activating this feature exists, souldn't the community start to at least investigate it? That is only my suggestion
Think you are talking about this thread?
Toshiba TG01 has the same Snapdragon platform and provides USB host capabilities. So I am pretty sure will have usb host too or at least some clever guys can extract it from the Toshiba.
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Think you are talking about this thread?
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So You're saying that the drivers from that thread should work?
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So You're saying that the drivers from that thread should work?
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Could very well be, I haven't tried. I guess the first one to try will inform the rest I guess
if someone tests it and informs us about it with a positve resulttttt,
i will go to the store and get my self a cableeeeeeee
if it will work, some people can shut up about second camera, they can buy webcam and connect it
Are you talking about using your HD2 as a Harddrive??
YES!
Are you talking about using your HD2 as a Harddrive??
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No he wants to plug a hard drive (or an usb key) in the HD2.
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No he wants to plug a hard drive (or an usb key) in the HD2.
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Ooh, that I dunno.
I'm also very curious to know if the HD2 has USB-Host support!
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if it will work, some people can shut up about second camera, they can buy webcam and connect it
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No, you still require the driver to get it working which probably won't exist. My Eten M600 works with mouse, keyboard, hub, harddrive so far.
20mihalko & xmoo, can any of you test TMC on iGo8? I asked in both of your thread but didn't get a reply. It's one of the deal breaker for me to give up the X1
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No, you still require the driver to get it working which probably won't exist. My Eten M600 works with mouse, keyboard, hub, harddrive so far.
20mihalko & xmoo, can any of you test TMC on iGo8? I asked in both of your thread but didn't get a reply. It's one of the deal breaker for me to give up the X1
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If you could pm me about the TMC.
Dunno what it is, and never worked with it!
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If you could pm me about the TMC.
Dunno what it is, and never worked with it!
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check you PM box
Hi guys,
I'm coming back with the same question in this thread, do Leo have an usb host or maybe like written before we can make it live with specific drivers like the Diamond ?
Thanks for testing
I'm still waiting for mine (the 23rd I presume)
Kindest Regards
Plnf
Do you think it will be possible to find the toshiba tg01 drivers for usb host and inlude it to the hd2 device? For what should I have to search on my tg01 and where? Maby the drivers will also work on the hd2?
Hi,
Maybe you have an install cd with your tg01 where you can fing usb host drivers ?
Rgds
Plnf
I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
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I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
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That's a shame!
scilor said:
I have read that someone disassembled the HD2 and found out that the USB-Chips (Including HOST feature) of the Toshiba and the HD2 are the same, BUT the HOST-Pins arent connected
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Well, connect the pins... what are you waiting for.
I don't remember in which topic i saw it, but i remember two members were talking about this. Is this really possible with kernel support? Or does it also need hardware support?
It needs hardware support for power, but it should work on our device. I am actually planning on creating a modified USB cable, data pins from device and power pins from external source. I will let ya know when I come up with something.
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It needs hardware support for power, but it should work on our device. I am actually planning on creating a modified USB cable, data pins from device and power pins from external source. I will let ya know when I come up with something.
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So it's possible! I heard you are working on CM9 and you may be busy but exactly when you can start working on this? And about the modified cable, is it something like cable with batteries basically? Thanks
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So it's possible! I heard you are working on CM9 and you may be busy but exactly when you can start working on this? And about the modified cable, is it something like cable with batteries basically? Thanks
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It should be a Y cable, yes. I don't really know how the pins are connected but once I start working on it I'll seek it out.
Yes, I am working on CM9 and kernel. I have to get a stable CM9 up, then I can start working on those neat features .
U8850 OTG
Sorry to post in the U8800 area, but does anyone know if the U8850 hardware is capable of OTG USB - i want to use the phone to control stuff, and if the reply is positive, will drag down the kernel sources and make it so... but if we think the phone can't do it, then I'll go get another device....
Simon
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Sorry to post in the U8800 area, but does anyone know if the U8850 hardware is capable of OTG USB - i want to use the phone to control stuff, and if the reply is positive, will drag down the kernel sources and make it so... but if we think the phone can't do it, then I'll go get another device....
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I did not think U8800 is capable of USB OTG, but as you see, it is. It was only possible due to maintenance manuals, which showed which chips our phone has. I'd recommend you do the same. What I do know is, the U8860 has the same chip as U8800, so U8860 has the capabilities too, but not implemented.
Most of the times, the phone is capable of USB Host (with external power supply) and I ported it for our phone. But once I discovered we have a dedicated chip that can power USB, we went with full OTG support.
hi Blefish,
Got the manuals. u8850 has a msm8255 CPU; on qualcom website it does not quote OTG, but other sites seem to have OTG running on phones with 8255. I'm preparing to do a kernel build from Danile71's git tree, and will then look at your tree to see what you've added in /drivers/usb/otg and see what i can do.
Any hints appreciated .
Simon
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hi Blefish,
Got the manuals. u8850 has a msm8255 CPU; on qualcom website it does not quote OTG, but other sites seem to have OTG running on phones with 8255. I'm preparing to do a kernel build from Danile71's git tree, and will then look at your tree to see what you've added in /drivers/usb/otg and see what i can do.
Any hints appreciated .
Simon
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MSM8x55 is a good indication. In our case, U8800/U8860 both had the BQ24152 charger chip (both from same Snapdragon family), but there was a catch - it was controlled through GPIOS 149,150 as I2C. If you're browsing my kernel tree, you'll see that in drivers/usb/otg, I only added the switch. The switch makes the USB driver run as either host or peripheral, but it doesn't power the USB port (if you power USB externally, it will work). In my tree, the powering is done in board-u8800.c (vbus_power), which is directed to board-u8800-battery.c, which in turn notifies the BQ24152 driver, which sends the command.
If you need to browse U8800/U8860 maintenance manuals, check my #Mega (in Signature). It clearly shows U8860 has it, but for U8800, it only lists the BOM code. It would be perfect if U8850 manual would leak to the internet.
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It would be perfect if U8850 manual would leak to the internet.
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it's not the best, but it's something:
(I can't post urls)
Google for "u8850_1_maintenance_manual"
Still trying to build a reliable kernel .
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MSM8x55 is a good indication. In our case, U8800/U8860 both had the BQ24152 charger chip (both from same Snapdragon family), but there was a catch - it was controlled through GPIOS 149,150 as I2C. If you're browsing my kernel tree, you'll see that in drivers/usb/otg, I only added the switch. The switch makes the USB driver run as either host or peripheral, but it doesn't power the USB port (if you power USB externally, it will work). In my tree, the powering is done in board-u8800.c (vbus_power), which is directed to board-u8800-battery.c, which in turn notifies the BQ24152 driver, which sends the command.
If you need to browse U8800/U8860 maintenance manuals, check my #Mega (in Signature). It clearly shows U8860 has it, but for U8800, it only lists the BOM code. It would be perfect if U8850 manual would leak to the internet.
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hi blefish ı need your help for about self-powered otg
can you help me please??
here my thread in galaxy w device section
you can look for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517011
with my best regards :good:
While i was thinking is it possible to make OTG work on Touch Pro 2?
Any Software or ROM or Kernel updates will do?
You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...
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You mean like USB Host Mode?
I don't think anyone looked into it. Android or WinMo...
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Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?
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Yeah , that is whats making me ask it, it would be awesome if that Hapenned., by the way is it Possible?
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(Almost) anything is possible with enough time and determination...
Has it been done already? Not to my knowledge.
'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure
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'Theoretically' you should be able to get this working. Like Arrrghhh said, anything is possible. I did get a usb otg cable for the rhodium (well, not FOR the rhodium, but 'theoretically' it should work) and found that this function is supported in the specs for our processor chip.
There are drivers and a pretty good source of information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
I never advanced past the point of realizing that while our phone 'probably' has the hardware to receive input from usb devices it cannot provide them with power to function. You seem to need to use an externally powered usb hub for those drivers to do you any good, and there really isn't anything On-The-Go about carrying around a usb hub and its power adapter! So it was at that point that I gave up. But, there is probably all the information you need in the thread I posted above to get you started.
Please post your findings if you have success/failure
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Surely i would, leme work on that!
does the Froyo Build support OTG?
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Surely i would, leme work on that!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250199&highlight=7
its said that OTG isnt working in the Build
So does Android generally support OTG without any software support?
Can i get OTG support by just running in Android? ICS or CM or GB or Froyo?
[i m working on the Win6.5 OTG, ordered Host cable, waiting for it to arrive..]
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That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)
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That thread isn't talking about host mode, that thread is talking about transferring files via USB mass storage mode....
At any rate, I'm pretty sure the software simply supports it. Getting the hardware to talk properly is the hard part (again, as far as I understand it...)
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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No one ever got it working, I thought I made that perfectly clear...
I'm not sure what you need, again there's probably quite a bit of legwork that you'll need to do in order for it to talk on our devices. I don't think you can just "use" the LEO drivers in this case - however, adapting them might be a good place to start.
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i got the Female cable, but it never took the flash drive, dont know why? Tried Zeno's Drivers and Also Leo's too but its not working out, does it require an external power supply?
any one got it working ever?
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I thought I read somewhere that the TP2 can not provide power. You had to use a powered usb hub + device to have a chance at getting it working.
The downside being that you had all this stuff to haul around if you wanted to use an OTG cable.