Think I may have discovered something Wi-fi - Galaxy S II General

I've noticed that when I covered the back of the phone with my hand (particularly the middle area) the wifi signal dropped a bar, but when let go, it would suddenly go back up again. This isn't particularly relevant if you're only like 2 feet away from the access point but just thought its something to bear in mind, if this has already been discussed then I apologize,i missed the discussion
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I think this is true for all phones. Cover the antenna area and the signal is due to go down a little at least. Look at the iphone 4, cover that tiny gap and you can go from having 4 bars to having 1 or no service. Same goes for wifi with another area. My Blackberry also has this. All phones do. It just depends on where the manufacturer put the antenna.

Yeah I remember the uproar that came with the iphone 4 antenna but that turned out to be a myth created by people who hated the iphone is what i heard
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Don't know if it's been discussed but this is a common occurrence in most phones. You'll probably lose a bar of cell if you cover the bottom part of the phone as well since that's where the cell antenna is.

Posted weeks ago as well .
Bottom halve of the phone drops WiFi one bar .
Did not on SGS 1 .
jje

cina182003 said:
Yeah I remember the uproar that came with the iphone 4 antenna but that turned out to be a myth created by people who hated the iphone is what i heard
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Lol is that why apple sent out 1000's of free cases due to the lack of reception when holding the bottom of it.
All phones suffer..Ive noteced my SG2 loses a bar or 2 when I hold it a certain way

cina182003 said:
Yeah I remember the uproar that came with the iphone 4 antenna but that turned out to be a myth created by people who hated the iphone is what i heard
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A myth? Tell that to my apple loving cousin.
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no its real, you only have to test it yourself to see it, it does effect all phones some a lot more than others, this phone does seem to have it quite badly albeit held in a specific way - which incidentally is the way most people hold it, for me WI-FI was a bit of a fail for the SGS2, however the many great and fantastic elements to this phone more than makes up for this slight inconvenience.

True for most phones. My 5800 Express Music even had a chart showing the different antennas, and told you not to hold there because you would loose reception.
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Quite a dip in signal bars but no real change in actual performance for me.
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Death grip on atrix

I am experiencing a iphone like death grip on my atrix. Anyone else?
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Nope, not one bit.
Edit: By not one bit, I mean that under normal circumstances of me holding the phone how I normally would it does not drop even 1 bar. I've made no attempt to purposefully smother it because thats well... stupid. If it works how you use it, why do you care if you can go out of your way to smother out a signal?
care to elaborate?
tried it, like on any phone out there...it goes down a bit but not badly. I even tried to smother it with both hands while running pandora, it dropped one bar. I'm not concerned with it. Motorola has been building radios for a long time, they know how to do that stuff.
Every single phone loses some signal when you basically cover it with your hands and squeeze. The reason the iphone was singled out so bad was because you could basically use one finger to short out the antenna and lose like 3 plus bars.
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Although I did manage to make it lose 2 bars of signal strength. My Vulcan death grip did not work. I then realized it was a Borg, as it proceeded to assimilate me.
Mine usually goes to 1 bar when i hold the phone in left hand. Was just curious.
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xorpion said:
Mine usually goes to 1 bar when i hold the phone in left hand. Was just curious.
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goes to one bar from full bars or were you already in a low signal area?

[Q] Antenna Problem

Hey im curious if anyone else is having this same problem. Every time grab my phone like im going to use it...i go down atleast 1 or 2 bars signal...does anyone else have this problem??
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Hey im curious if anyone else is having this same problem. Every time grab my phone like im going to use it...i go down atleast 1 or 2 bars signal...does anyone else have this problem??
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I've noticed quirks like that on almost every phone I've owned. It doesn't do it every time though, and doesn't seem to matter where on the phone your hand is.
All devices without a physical antenna do this. Which is almost every phone now a days. All my phones done this.
Try this, hold your device sideways in landscape mode wrapping your index finger along the side, right on top of the ear speaker. You'll see your bars increase.
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coupetastic-droid said:
All devices without a physical antenna do this. Which is almost every phone now a days. All my phones done this.
Try this, hold your device sideways in landscape mode wrapping your index finger along the side, right on top of the ear speaker. You'll see your bars increase.
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yup they do...so i guess just deal with it??
em2drvr03 said:
yup they do...so i guess just deal with it??
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Basically, untill they make better internal antenna strip later down the line.
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coupetastic-droid said:
All devices without a physical antenna do this. Which is almost every phone now a days. All my phones done this.
Try this, hold your device sideways in landscape mode wrapping your index finger along the side, right on top of the ear speaker. You'll see your bars increase.
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while patting your head and rubbing your tummy. oh also juggling upside down and buying an iphone 4
Nicgraner said:
while patting your head and rubbing your tummy. oh also juggling upside down and buying an iphone 4
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dont forget while hopping on one foot...
TBH,
I had never had the IPhone issue with a phone until I owned an Iphone....and then I owned a mytouch 4g and my wi-fi signal would drop depending on how i held it....
But nothing too bad
carmeng4evr said:
TBH,
I had never had the IPhone issue with a phone until I owned an Iphone....and then I owned a mytouch 4g and my wi-fi signal would drop depending on how i held it....
But nothing too bad
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Actually, nothing is as bad as the iphone antenna. My friends iphone was horrible on that.
Yea, the mytouch is not so bad. I'm usually always holding my phone in landscape which is how it gets the best reception, so its all good.
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I think every phone does
My wifi signal even loses a few bars for some reason when I do, and the router is ~20ft away without any walls
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****, wrong forum.. sorry!!

Phone heats up on LTE

Anyone else have this issue while using LTE? My phone is from Rogers. When it's on LTE, the bottom part of the phone, including the bottom of the screen heats up terribly bad and the whole phone eventually gets hot. I switched back to 4G and the heat went way. I prefer to use LTE as it's blazing fast here in Toronto. Anything I can do?
Hold the top of the phone? Just kidding.
At least, does anyone know an app where I can toggle LTE except when I'm browsing with the browser or watching YouTube?
Frostie123 said:
Anyone else have this issue while using LTE? My phone is from Rogers. When it's on LTE, the bottom part of the phone, including the bottom of the screen heats up terribly bad and the whole phone eventually gets hot. I switched back to 4G and the heat went way. I prefer to use LTE as it's blazing fast here in Toronto. Anything I can do?
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Im with Bell and the phone doesnt even get warm when Im on LTE.
Same here very disappointed I switched from an iPhone to this phone and the iPhone never got hot. Are all android phones like this? Love the os and phone just not very happy with cheap build quality.
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At least, does anyone know an app where I can toggle LTE except when I'm browsing with the browser or watching YouTube?
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I dont need an app with the Bell version. I just go in the network settings.
sabre31 said:
Same here very disappointed I switched from an iPhone to this phone and the iPhone never got hot. Are all android phones like this? Love the os and phone just not very happy with cheap build quality.
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No, not all Android phones are like this.
Take a look at your phone again, you notice something? Yeah, it's thin. being as thin as it is, you're going to definitely feel heat if you push the phone hard enough. And considering android is more intensive in terms of processing, Its going to actually use the system, compared to ios since that doesn't have to be as intensive considering how overly simple it is.
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Jbluna said:
No, not all Android phones are like this.
Take a look at your phone again, you notice something? Yeah, it's thin. being as thin as it is, you're going to definitely feel heat if you push the phone hard enough. And considering android is more intensive in terms of processing, Its going to actually use the system, compared to ios since that doesn't have to be as intensive considering how overly simple it is.
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Thanks for the explanation however should I worry my phone will burn out and cause damage or am I over reacting?
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sabre31 said:
Thanks for the explanation however should I worry my phone will burn out and cause damage or am I over reacting?
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I would suggest that if the iPhone had to work hard it would get hot/warm as well. But since it is designed with simplicity in mind it doesn't have to. But I could be wrong.
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Wi-fi on p3113

I've seen some complaints about the wireless network performance on the 7.0. Having broken one and subsequently taken it apart, I couldn't help but notice what was causing the problem.
The circled area is shows the antenna on the back case, right where one would hold the device. Seems like a silly design, is this normal?
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pogu said:
I've seen some complaints about the wireless network performance on the 7.0. Having broken one and subsequently taken it apart, I couldn't help but notice what was causing the problem.
The circled area is shows the antenna on the back case, right where one would hold the device. Seems like a silly design, is this normal?
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Never had ANY problems with ANY Wi-Fi connectivity or networks! But yes!, I agree that is NOT a really good spot for the sensor! :silly:
Sounds like the problem the iphone had awhile back where if you positioned your hand just right you lost all cell signal
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Yup....death grip for Wi-Fi
I have the death grip with wifi on my p3113 tab too.
p3113owner said:
I have the death grip with wifi on my p3113 tab too.
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Every tab 2 7“ have the death grip..
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The $14 Belkin case at office despot allows you to hold it however you like. You can assume other cases do as well.
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A few more I took a while back:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28423046&postcount=24
I think I got used to it and I don't care much anymore.
Sorry, I didn't realize this had already been covered
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Funny you should mention it. JUst this morning I had my tab dockd on my keyboard with a strong wifi signal. I took it off the dock to use it and lost my signal. I put in back on my dock and the signal came back nice and strong. I figured holding it was interferring with wifi.
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I think the Jelly Bean OTA has taken care of that,so far when I hold it I don't see any bars dropping.
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I think the Jelly Bean OTA has taken care of that,so far when I hold it I don't see any bars dropping.
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Its hardware , some users have 4.04 and JB and the wifi issue still the same, if u cover all left bottom corner maybe u lose all wifi connection
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I don't say it is not,but seems like mine got better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS8MdeE9xhY&feature=player_embedded
Being a soldier in Afghanistan with a whopping <56k download speed, this matters a lot. I've noticed many times where laptop folk, or even other iPad folks, would benefit from having a signal, where I would have none! I've noticed that I would literally drop a bar of wifi if I held it in landscape, with my right hand over the Samsung symbol...very lame indeed. When I return to the state's,I hope this won't be too much of a problem.
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priad said:
Being a soldier in Afghanistan with a whopping <56k download speed, this matters a lot. I've noticed many times where laptop folk, or even other iPad folks, would benefit from having a signal, where I would have none! I've noticed that I would literally drop a bar of wifi if I held it in landscape, with my right hand over the Samsung symbol...very lame indeed. When I return to the state's,I hope this won't be too much of a problem.
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You will get a good signal if you have a good router, for example,I have downloaded 1 gb of maps for my gps program and the speed was 1mbps, if I hold with left hand drops to 100 kbps, the connection only disappears if cover all left corner, that only happens on purpose (its not the way i usually hold the tab)
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[Q] Second thoughts about a Note 3

I just ordered a new Note 3 from Amazon and it was darned expensive.
I have a note I which I have used consistently for the last year and a half and I have used it daily. There are signs it might be wearing. I even have some small scratches on the screen. I expect to use the 3 the same way. I loved my 1 but thought I should upgrade before it falls apart.
The question is will I see a significant difference in the 1 and the 3? Is the 3 worth the price
I will appricate any thought you have on this subject
Wait until you get the note 3 use it for a few days and decide for yourself amazon is quite relaxed on returns
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Really? Man The note 3 is like comparing the play station to the ps4
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I had my doubts about getting it as I was really happy with my note 2. As it turns out the difference is night and day. This thing is the greatest phone ever built. You won't be disappointed.
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I had my doubts about getting it as I was really happy with my note 2. As it turns out the difference is night and day. This thing is the greatest phone ever built. You won't be disappointed.
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I'm coming from note 2 what do you think of the battery I don't find it any better what settings do you have regards sync brightness apps disabled?
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craigels said:
I'm coming from note 2 what do you think of the battery I don't find it any better what settings do you have regards sync brightness apps disabled?
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I'm coming from Note 2 as well, only thing that's better is the screen, some other important things like battery life is worse for me. As well as stupid speaker placement, and KNOX. I'm not doing heavy tasks, so I don't notice any difference with the new CPU, RAM etc.
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yulet said:
I'm coming from Note 2 as well, only thing that's better is the screen, some other important things like battery life is worse for me. As well as stupid speaker placement, and KNOX. I'm not doing heavy tasks, so I don't notice any difference with the new CPU, RAM etc.
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I find the speaker placement annoying also especially when holding the phone landscape my index finger on my left hand covers it
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craigels said:
I'm coming from note 2 what do you think of the battery I don't find it any better what settings do you have regards sync brightness apps disabled?
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The battery life isn't much better than My N7100. However it's a 4g phone which up until now should have meant worse battery life than it's 3g counterpart. It's also a much faster processor and the screen has a much higher ppi and is significantly brighter. All these improvements and no sacrifices so far as battery life is concerned are pretty amazing to me.
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Go for it I got mine last Tuesday, and can't let it go from my hands...
One think that annoy the hell of of me is that if you try to use pattern or password for lock screen you will lose lock screen widgets, and voice commands.... Those only work with swipe option... Hopefully Sammy will get this fixed ASAP. By enough whining, that's the best phone since Nokia 6310i
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If I had a Note1 and wanted to buy a new phone it would be the Note2. Nice specs, no auto-dimming of the screen like on the N3 and better speaker compared to the N3.
Brgds...
I am coming from S2, I like my N3 especially s-pen. my typing has reduced getting my hand writing practice again
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if the note2 was the beast, and you're coming from a note1, the note3 is the incredible hulk. my first couple of days, i was kind of like, meh, it's just an incremental upgrade, and honestly it is, but it has a lot going for it and i am liking it more and more and more. this might be the first phone i keep much longer than 12 months. i upgrade once a year, and i am not too enthused about the first generation of 64bit phones that will hit in the near future. between google keeping mum on 64bit android, oem's still keeping hush about their 64bit plans, the initial bugs from android aaaaand the vendors overlays, i wanted a phone that would hold me over. but who am i kidding? i'll probably still get another phone next year.
I had a Note 1 and I have a Note 3 it is the best decision I made.
Bigger screen.
Better pen
Faster processor
Been playing with it all day long and I am sure the battery will do another day.
BUY ONE!
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How are you getting 2 days have you disabled apps or what I can't get anything near that
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Once you have finished playing with your new toy and downloaded lots useless or hardly used apps do a factory restore and only load what you use everyday.
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I'm hating my Note 3 for one reason; the bluetooth music stutter glitch. This is the third device I get, I returned the first 2, and it still has the same problem! I did a factory reset and it didn't help
Yes, buy it!
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Wait until you get the note 3 use it for a few days and decide for yourself amazon is quite relaxed on returns
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dr.m0x said:
I had my doubts about getting it as I was really happy with my note 2. As it turns out the difference is night and day. This thing is the greatest phone ever built. You won't be disappointed.
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dr.m0x said:
The battery life isn't much better than My N7100. However it's a 4g phone which up until now should have meant worse battery life than it's 3g counterpart. It's also a much faster processor and the screen has a much higher ppi and is significantly brighter. All these improvements and no sacrifices so far as battery life is concerned are pretty amazing to me.
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marecki12 said:
Go for it I got mine last Tuesday, and can't let it go from my hands...
One think that annoy the hell of of me is that if you try to use pattern or password for lock screen you will lose lock screen widgets, and voice commands.... Those only work with swipe option... Hopefully Sammy will get this fixed ASAP. By enough whining, that's the best phone since Nokia 6310i
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@rbiter said:
if the note2 was the beast, and you're coming from a note1, the note3 is the incredible hulk. my first couple of days, i was kind of like, meh, it's just an incremental upgrade, and honestly it is, but it has a lot going for it and i am liking it more and more and more. this might be the first phone i keep much longer than 12 months. i upgrade once a year, and i am not too enthused about the first generation of 64bit phones that will hit in the near future. between google keeping mum on 64bit android, oem's still keeping hush about their 64bit plans, the initial bugs from android aaaaand the vendors overlays, i wanted a phone that would hold me over. but who am i kidding? i'll probably still get another phone next year.
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samcory said:
I had a Note 1 and I have a Note 3 it is the best decision I made.
Bigger screen.
Better pen
Faster processor
Been playing with it all day long and I am sure the battery will do another day.
BUY ONE!
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What all these people said.
It is a great phone, streets ahead of my Note 1.

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