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Originally posted by: kngyn19
Looks like the Epic's GPS is indeed working correctly! Confirmed by Samsung and Engadget!
Linky:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/18/samsung-says-gps-is-tested-and-validated-on-epic-4g-our-testi/
I wonder if they use the same gps hardware as the GSM counterparts ?
I would guess their firmware is different enough that they fixed it before releasing the Epic. Someone mentioned that may be the reason for the supposed delay.
The EPIC and Fascinate are CDMA devices. It might take a littler longer to reconfigure stuff versus GSM.
My own reaction to this news, posted in a sister forum, is more cautious optimism.
And if Sprint management did delay the release of the Epic to incorporate a fix to the GPS, good for them. If that is true, it would seem advantageous for them to make some statement to that effect. If they keep quiet on the matter, I have to wonder why.
boomerbubba said:
My own reaction to this news, posted in a sister forum, is more cautious optimism.
And if Sprint management did delay the release of the Epic to incorporate a fix to the GPS, good for them. If that is true, it would seem advantageous for them to make some statement to that effect. If they keep quiet on the matter, I have to wonder why.
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Maybe they want those worried about the GPS issue to rest assured but don't want to start a discussion about it where average consumers won't buy the Vibrant and Captivate variants after hearing there is a GPS issue..
gTen said:
Maybe they want those worried about the GPS issue to rest assured but don't want to start a discussion about it where average consumers won't buy the Vibrant and Captivate variants after hearing there is a GPS issue..
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The average consumers that have the vibrant or captivate don't even know it had issues.. and some don't. We here on xda are the exception..
Most sprint customers don't even know its the same phone.. let alone know about a gps issue...
Sprint really don't need to say anything to anyone.. us here at xda are a small margin of their sales..
I honestly don't care as long as the GPS is working. For the $400 bucks i'm going to be paying for this phone (Sprint wants a $150 deposit before I can get the phone), I expect the GPS TO BE WORKING.
Im happy they are saying the GPS works but i wont believe it until I see it. I am out and about on a daily basis and use GPS just as much.
boomerbubba said:
My own reaction to this news, posted in a sister forum, is more cautious optimism.
And if Sprint management did delay the release of the Epic to incorporate a fix to the GPS, good for them. If that is true, it would seem advantageous for them to make some statement to that effect. If they keep quiet on the matter, I have to wonder why.
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Yes.. imagine how that would go "Buy the best phone Sprint has to offer... GPS doesn't work but we'll work on it AFTER you buy the phone!" or maybe "This phone is great, GPS doesn't work but we'll fix it before you buy it!!!" ... either way it doesn't look good for the company, so keep it hush, delay it and people will get it when it comes out. The only ones *****ing about the delay are the ones on these forums which is 0.000003 of their sales.
DirtyShroomz said:
Yes.. imagine how that would go "Buy the best phone Sprint has to offer... GPS doesn't work but we'll work on it AFTER you buy the phone!" or maybe "This phone is great, GPS doesn't work but we'll fix it before you buy it!!!" ... either way it doesn't look good for the company, so keep it hush, delay it and people will get it when it comes out. The only ones *****ing about the delay are the ones on these forums which is 0.000003 of their sales.
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That's the kind of spin Sprint would have to make if it released the phone with the GPS defect, and without fixing it first.
I was talking about a more positive statement in light of this news from Samsung. Sprint could affirm that there are no GPS issues on the Epic. And if there were issues in prerelease, but they held off to fix them first, that is a very positive thing to brag about. (And, by implication, a swipe at the two U.S. competitors who released defective products and are still awaiting new firmware in September.)
I hope this is true. I dont understand it though. I have read in many deferent places that they are working on a new driver to fix gps issues in all the other galaxy s phones. How did the fix the issue with out the new driver? If this is true then this makes me worried they will never really fix the captivates gps since the epic is fixed with the same gps driver.
I have asked multiple people who have the Epic for review purposes, and all of them state that there is no GPS problems. Things are looking good!
shep211 said:
I hope this is true. I dont understand it though. I have read in many deferent places that they are working on a new driver to fix gps issues in all the other galaxy s phones. How did the fix the issue with out the new driver? If this is true then this makes me worried they will never really fix the captivates gps since the epic is fixed with the same gps driver.
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My guess is they did fix it..but probably want to fix all the other issues at the same time before mass pushing the update..like say the lag fix and etc..or maybe they will just include the gps fix and froyo together....either way if they release it we may be able to extract the driver and use it on the others..
gTen said:
My guess is they did fix it..but probably want to fix all the other issues at the same time before mass pushing the update..like say the lag fix and etc..or maybe they will just include the gps fix and froyo together...
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Huh? In the wake of Samsung's public announcement that the GPS works on the Epic while the other brands are still awaiting new firmware, you think Sprint would secretly be planning to omit that fix and launch with the same defect they have? That is just crazy.
The implication of Samsung's statement is that the Epic firmware is already tested and installed on the units about to be sold and shipped. There would not need to be any pushing of a GPS update for Sprint phones.
If that is ambiguous to people, that is all the more reason for Sprint to make a statement about this.
gTen said:
My guess is they did fix it..but probably want to fix all the other issues at the same time before mass pushing the update..like say the lag fix and etc..or maybe they will just include the gps fix and froyo together....either way if they release it we may be able to extract the driver and use it on the others..
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Yes you are right. If they do have the gps fix we should be able to port it over to the captivate. I wil have to return my captivate before the 30 days then get the epic and see what happens. If they fix the captivate I may go back to it since I love the slim look and design.
boomerbubba said:
That's the kind of spin Sprint would have to make if it released the phone with the GPS defect, and without fixing it first.
I was talking about a more positive statement in light of this news from Samsung. Sprint could affirm that there are no GPS issues on the Epic. And if there were issues in prerelease, but they held off to fix them first, that is a very positive thing to brag about. (And, by implication, a swipe at the two U.S. competitors who released defective products and are still awaiting new firmware in September.)
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Now that would be great. Sprint launching a commercial attack on AT&T and Tmo... Go with them, you'll have phones that can't make calls and can't guide you to your destination! Not so smart for a smart phone huh?
I would lol so hard if they did a commercial like that. It is nice to see a company think of the end user and not about the $. I am testing the gps fix from the epic dump. So far it looks good. It locks the sats fast and shows me with 5m of my location(Use to never go below 30). I will test the gps when I go to lunch and see if it tracks me correctly.
Edit: I used my gps at lunch and it worked a lot better. It didnt jump from street to street and change route over and over. Its usable now but its still not as good as n1\evo. It will lag pretty bad then jump to your location. If the epic radio does not have updated code for gps that fixs lag issue then I would say gps is not really fixed just improved. I think we will have to wait till September to see if it gets fully fixed.
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... I am testing the gps fix from the epic dump. So far it looks good. It locks the sats fast and shows me with 5m of my location(Use to never go below 30). I will test the gps when I go to lunch and see if it tracks me correctly.
Edit: I used my gps at lunch and it worked a lot better. It didnt jump from street to street and change route over and over. Its usable now but its still not as good as n1\evo. It will lag pretty bad then jump to your location. If the epic radio does not have updated code for gps that fixs lag issue then I would say gps is not really fixed just improved. I think we will have to wait till September to see if it gets fully fixed.
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Exactly what are you "testing" here? I gather you don't have an Epic. So you are you somehow running some hacked form of what you believe the "GPS fix" is -- drawn from the Epic dump -- on the hardware of some other Samsung S variant such as a Captivate. Right? Can you please describe the steps you used to set up this test environment. What is it about the Epic dump that you are calling "the GPS fix," and how did you apply it on the other hardware? Did you flash a ROM, change config files, or what?
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Exactly what are you "testing" here? I gather you don't have an Epic. So you are you somehow running some hacked form of what you believe the "GPS fix" is -- drawn from the Epic dump -- on the hardware of some other Samsung S variant such as a Captivate. Right? Can you please describe the steps you used to set up this test environment. What is it about the Epic dump that you are calling "the GPS fix," and how did you apply it on the other hardware? Did you flash a ROM, change config files, or what?
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He is talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759976
gTen said:
He is talking about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759976
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Thanks. What I see there are three hacked "experimental" versions of a "fix," none of which even purport to replicate the Epic environment completely. [Edit: I gather it was the "fix" supposed to be drawn from the Epic that was tested.] (For example, shep211 himself questioned how this can be a fix without new drivers. I agree with that criticism. But how do we even know what drivers this environment has?)
So it is not valid to run this test, which showed a less-than-successful GPS performance, and declare on the basis of that test that the Epic fix is incomplete as shipped.
The Epic fix may or may not be complete. We don't know that. We can't know it until a real Epic is tested rigorously.
For those thinking about getting the Vibrant/Captivate or pretty much any variant of the Galaxy S DO NOT.
I contacted them via FB and this is the only answer they sent me
"We are working on it. We're sorry about this issue. Please be patient as we know how important this is. Thanks for reaching out!"
I have just received and activated my phone with dum, dum, dum... AT&T and this phone has nothing but GPS issues while I have to admit everything else works fine and is definitely fast.
There is absolutely no way of it accurately doing a turn by turn Navigation with Google Maps.
Ive even resorted to doing a supposed fix and nothing if anything it made the major problem worse.
Same has been reported with the T-Mobile version of the phone.
I highly regret leaving T-Mobile now because the reception was a lot better with them as well.
No wonder tons of people bad mouth AT&T, LOL.
Proof below, stick to the other manufacturers guys... Samsung is testing the waters and these phones should have NEVER been released prior to having it 100% functional.
---->> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/samsung-galaxy-s-gps-gate-two-problems-not-one-and-what-to-do/5#comments
legend221 said:
For those thinking about getting the Vibrant/Captivate or pretty much any variant of the Galaxy S DO NOT.
I contacted them via FB and this is the only answer they sent me
"We are working on it. We're sorry about this issue. Please be patient as we know how important this is. Thanks for reaching out!"
I have just received and activated my phone with dum, dum, dum... AT&T and this phone has nothing but GPS issues while I have to admit everything else works fine and is definitely fast.
There is absolutely no way of it accurately doing a turn by turn Navigation with Google Maps.
Ive even resorted to doing a supposed fix and nothing if anything it made the major problem worse.
Same has been reported with the T-Mobile version of the phone.
I highly regret leaving T-Mobile now because the reception was a lot better with them as well.
No wonder tons of people bad mouth AT&T, LOL.
Proof below, stick to the other manufacturers guys... Samsung is testing the waters and these phones should have NEVER been released prior to having it 100% functional.
---->> http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/17/samsung-galaxy-s-gps-gate-two-problems-not-one-and-what-to-do/5#comments
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Why didnt you wait for g2?
Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.
Ace42 said:
Why didnt you wait for g2?
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Ive bought Samsung phone before and I haven't ran into any major issues like this.
The G2 would definitely be a better option.
Thinking Im going to jump to the Sony X10, I hear that they are going to have the CyanogenMod on it pretty soon.
rwbarnes67 said:
Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.
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You're trying to come at me like everyone is going to have a working unit Barnes.
Just because YOU got lucky doesn't mean anyone else that buys it will.
There is already a "fix" in the works for units that have faulty GPS but whether it works or if its actually able to fix the issue is another story.
Read this and please don't post again if YOU don't know what you are talking about.
rwbarnes67 said:
Hey OP!
Have you EVER tried the Vibrant or Captivate? I have the Vibrant and I have had no problems with the GPS. I use the turn by turn directions daily!
You need to know what you are talking about! Yes, there is a documented problem, but that doesn't mean that the GPS is unusable, and NO I haven't applied the GPS fix.
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Maybe you are also confused, bring up an address and press the option that says navigation.
See that big blue area around your position THAT is not true GPS and it is only guessing where you are from cell towers.
Like others have said it will not accurately tell you where you are, you can not trust the voice directions at all.
That is faulty and yes Samsung, AT&T, T-Mobile and any other service provider should not be selling these units until it is fixed.
legend221 said:
Maybe you are also confused, bring up an address and press the option that says navigation.
See that big blue area around your position THAT is not true GPS and it is only guessing where you are from cell towers.
Like others have said it will not accurately tell you where you are, you can not trust the voice directions at all.
That is faulty and yes Samsung, AT&T, T-Mobile and any other service provider should not be selling these units until it is fixed.
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That Little blue arrow that tells me EXACTLY where I am on the map as I'm zooming down the freeway and accurately tells me every exit as I'm passing them? I know what I am talking about! And the turn by turn instructions work for me and it re-routes when I miss a street.
OK!!!! You all! You know EVERYTHING and I know NOTHING!
That is all! Sorry for putting in my 2 cents!
By the way, I've been on Android since the G1 in November of 2008. Rooted with the first Jesus Freke roms thru Haykuru and Dudes roms to Cyan and have been doing the same with my Vibrant.
But OK. You guys are THE EXPERTS.
And by the way, you guys never stated whether or not you own a Vibrant.
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I have nothing to say!
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By the way, I've been on Android since the G1 in November of 2008. Rooted with the first Jesus Freke roms thru Haykuru and Dudes roms to Cyan and have been doing the same with my Vibrant.
But OK. You guys are THE EXPERTS.
And by the way, you guys never stated whether or not you own a Vibrant.
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I only own G1 & Mytouch Slide, not interested in the Vibrant like my KB's.
buy whatever you want
ive gone thru so many phones since 09, from the g1(when it first came out), hd2, n900, x10 and finally the vibrant. the hd2, n900 and x10 in a matter of 4 months. didnt like windows mobile from being used to android. n900 wasnt what i expected it to be. loved the x10 but only running 1.6. i didnt root it because I eventually bought the vibrant.
only issues i had were facebook syncing and contacts being tripled and gps in searching for a location while in house, but GPS worked FINE when I was on the road. wish i had a car dock for it at the time but will eventually get one.
OP, if you knew of these reasons, such as lag or because of the gps not working properly, then why did you buy it in the first place? i dont think barnes was getting at you, but damn dude, someone's sensitive. no one told you to buy it despite some of the imperfections the phone has. its like people saying sony shouldnt have released the x10 with 1.6 but rather have froyo but they still buy it. and if your response is to root it to get 2.1 or 2.2, i dont think the avg. customer for phones would have any idea of what you are talking about.
you cant please everyone on here. alot of people on xda either want to be a mod or just bump stupid posts because they didnt get an answer within 3 hours.
Returned my Samsung Captivate and is officially back to the HTC Dream/G1 until further notice.
Feeling better already, I can always get that phone when and if the GPS issue is worked out.
That was pretty much the only flaw it has at least on the phone I returned.
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ive gone thru so many phones since 09, from the g1(when it first came out), hd2, n900, x10 and finally the vibrant. the hd2, n900 and x10 in a matter of 4 months. didnt like windows mobile from being used to android. n900 wasnt what i expected it to be. loved the x10 but only running 1.6. i didnt root it because I eventually bought the vibrant.
only issues i had were facebook syncing and contacts being tripled and gps in searching for a location while in house, but GPS worked FINE when I was on the road. wish i had a car dock for it at the time but will eventually get one.
OP, if you knew of these reasons, such as lag or because of the gps not working properly, then why did you buy it in the first place? i dont think barnes was getting at you, but damn dude, someone's sensitive. no one told you to buy it despite some of the imperfections the phone has. its like people saying sony shouldnt have released the x10 with 1.6 but rather have froyo but they still buy it. and if your response is to root it to get 2.1 or 2.2, i dont think the avg. customer for phones would have any idea of what you are talking about.
you cant please everyone on here. alot of people on xda either want to be a mod or just bump stupid posts because they didnt get an answer within 3 hours.
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In that respect I did mess up.
Was expecting the Captivate to rock my socks off but all it did was make me mad due to the GPS issue.
I didn't know of these problems until after my phone arrived.
Its stupid for Samsung to not get those fixes out asap as that is their flagship phone.
I heard the X10 is very close to getting Cyanogen on there.. definitely a major advantage there vs. the Samsung development that's going on
if cyanogen is working on the x10, then the x10 will have alot of potential.
did you switch back to tmobile since you're back to using the g1?
btw, how often were you using the gps on the road? give the vibrant a chance, im sure the kinks will be worked out.
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if cyanogen is working on the x10, then the x10 will have alot of potential.
did you switch back to tmobile since you're back to using the g1?
btw, how often were you using the gps on the road? give the vibrant a chance, im sure the kinks will be worked out.
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The X10 does seem like a better choice for now mainly in part to the CyanogenMod potential.
Im still on AT&T, Ive closed my account with T-Mobile.
I was using the gps on a regular basis thats why it had to be refunded as a replacement was more than likely to have the same issue.
Samsung has always had a bad track record with updating thier phones and I didnt want to be stuck waiting for an update that may take too long to be relevant.
I've just gotta jump in with my $.02 right quick here...
Not trying to piss anyone off, but damn you all cry too much! IT's A PHONE!
And on top of all that, it has an Operating System on it! So essentially, it's a COMPUTER! And what do computers have????? ISSUES!
So, quit *****ing. Flagship phone or not...It's going to have issues. It's a new device. Duh. haha
Basically, when it comes down to it, if a device were PERFECT in every standard, then EVERYONE would have one. And sense there is no such thing as PERFECT, good luck.
tribalartgod said:
I've just gotta jump in with my $.02 right quick here...
Not trying to piss anyone off, but damn you all cry too much! IT's A PHONE!
And on top of all that, it has an Operating System on it! So essentially, it's a COMPUTER! And what do computers have????? ISSUES!
So, quit *****ing. Flagship phone or not...It's going to have issues. It's a new device. Duh. haha
Basically, when it comes down to it, if a device were PERFECT in every standard, then EVERYONE would have one. And sense there is no such thing as PERFECT, good luck.
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Yeah its a phone that should work my G1, HTC Shadow all work with gps and they are old phones compared to the Samsung Galaxy S.
If you prefer not to hear my advisement to everyone about this phone, DONT CLICK ON THE THREAD!
legend, so you're using the g1 on at&t's network?
the captivate is using bing, correct? there's no google maps on there? maybe that was the problem.
i guess im fortunate to have my gps on point when i'm driving, but once i eventually root, etc, then maybe the gps will lock in almost my exact point, and not off 1 or 2 blocks.
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legend, so you're using the g1 on at&t's network?
the captivate is using bing, correct? there's no google maps on there? maybe that was the problem.
i guess im fortunate to have my gps on point when i'm driving, but once i eventually root, etc, then maybe the gps will lock in almost my exact point, and not off 1 or 2 blocks.
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AT&T network, Yes I am.
The captivate is using Google Maps but has the option in using AT&T's version of it and they both were not working.
I tested how many GPS satellites it picked up through the LBSTestMode menu and it got me no where even if there were 1 or 7 available.
Once rooted it was the same story unfortunately even with all these workarounds on xda and other sites.
Further proof that the Samsung GPS issues continue....
See Samsung Facinate review released for Verizon on SEP 9, 2010 here ------->> http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Samsung-Fascinate-Review-review-r_2529-p_4.html
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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I would also like some info on this. Anyone knowledgable in this area?
I don't know the first thing about radios....please enlighten us.
I tried all three with the phone in the same location. I did two tests with speed test and i watched the signal in dbs. I determined that based on my location (Tampa) the 7.28 worked the best in my location. Just my $0.02.
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Check out the Radio Threads
FWIW, there are at lease two very good threads devoted to radios.
Many opinions and much anecdotal evidence is found in them - they are worth a studious look.
Read the entire threads.
Why? experiences by radio vary widely based on geography, ROM, PRL, and a host of other things.
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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Exactly, all those conflicting words to describe the exact same firmware on the exact same hardware, and often the same ROM. Flashing radio firmware is probably the riskiest thing you can do to the Inc. A corrupt ROM without a backup, you loose your apps and contacts. Too bad. A corrupt or mistake with firmware, and the phone will never ever power on again. Period.
Scary stuff.
In my area, 11.19 is the best.
It really just depends.
Just try them all out for a few days each and see which one you like best.
In my area 7.28 works the best. I had incredibly slow 3g with the other radios. Just install one and experiment with it people get mixed results
Results may vary........
Been running 7.28. Haven't felt the need to risk changing it especially with all the conflicting advice.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
Grrr
I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
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Although you are obviously correct, it really shouldn't be that way. We are all using the same radio hardware. If certain radio firmware causes my radio to connect better to one verizon tower and worse to another verizon tower, that indicates a problem with verizon somewhere. A properly built radio+firmware should connect as good as possible to any tower.
It seems that generally people have better GPS connection with the newer firmwares... but GPS does not connect to verizon towers.
Perhaps some of the verizon towers need updated firmware.
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I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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Same here.
Also, as a test for 7.xx and 11.19:
My mom and brother both have DIncs. Theirs are the SLCD and the 7.xx radio, mine is AMOLED and 11.19 radio. I open up the setting to look at signal strength, and mine (11.19) is always highest.
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Also, 11.19 tends to read the actual signal strength more efficiently that the others, i.e. it changes from 3G to 1x when in weak service, something the other 2 radios are much slower to do.
In my area 7.28 has been the best. I noticed large decreases in signal strength when using gps with 11.19.
Overall, I did not notice much difference between the three, but I know that 7.28 works and it eliminates a variable when troubleshooting.
Im in WI and 11.19 is the way to go in my area. Went from -95 db with the stock radio to -60 with 11.19. It also improved my battery life and 3G speed.
Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
They must also fix
1)Choppy browser with and without flash.....
2)Random freeze of the gingerbread launcher...
slateac said:
Didn't Ry guy posted that a fix is coming and they already found the problem? Its been more than 2 weeks now..
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I think it was posted that the reboot fix was coming, but not the loss of data.
Maybe I am just a lucky one, but I have had Nexus S since release and have only had a "random reboot" once; and no data signal loss issue AFAIK like Engadget has described. I have owned three Nexus Ss.
There are other issues, though, making it clear 2.3 is not bug free.
fchipm said:
Engadget just posted a story on the two major issues of signal loss and rebooting during calls.
Maybe with this Google will start to fix the problem? I sure hope so, as both are now affecting me more than ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/15/nexus-s-suffering-from-random-data-loss-reboots/
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and they didn't even give us XDA credits
Perhaps 2.4 is coming sooner than planned and the fixes will be implemented in that? Just a wild guess.
The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i'm hoping they fix the quirky back button as well. that thing is driving me crazy!
I recommended the nexus s to my girlfriend, but seeing all these issues are making me regret it :\ there are no fixes/workarounds?
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aaaaaand... 10char
Update: Huzzah! Just got a note from Google saying: "All of the issues described in the post are resolved and will be fixed with an OTA that will go out soon." Feel free to start mashing that "system updates" menu item.
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that was fast.
Weird. I haven't had a single one of the issues described in any form. However, the browser issues do make me angry.
Glad there is a hotfix on the way (for the issues mentioned, that is, not necessarily the browser issues)!
The only issue that regularly bothers me is the vanishing ringtone one. It's not exactly critical from a utilitarian standpoint, but I think it's stupid that I should have to root and move files around my phone in order to set a custom ringtone. Still, I'm far too happy with pretty much everything else to switch.
I think one major sticking point with the Nexus S is that we have a fairly lengthy list of at least semi-common issues, but in several cases it's not clear whether those are hardware- or software-related. This is troublesome because the latter may be reasonably expected to get fixed in OTAs, while the former will probably only ever be resolved through workarounds, if at all.
I would be very pleased if Google were more transparent about what it's working on, or at least aware of, even if they (understandably) don't want to commit to fix dates. As a user, just knowing the basic nature of these problems and that they are being acknowledged would go a long way towards improving customer satisfaction in my book.
SooSpecial said:
The article was updated. Now saying that Google fixed the issues and an OTA is coming soon.
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i read that there will be an ota update, but (maybe its a noob question) if your rooted will you still receive the update, and if so will it unroot the phone??
Fix the GPS!!!!!
Fix the keyboard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUZdvr6Pdjk
Discussed more in depth at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932838&page=13
I've recently upgraded to the newest ROOTED OTA GB for my DROID X and noticed that my Wireless Tether no longer works.
Instead it directs me to the Verizon Customer Service site where it shows pricing for their tether plans.
Is anyone else having this issue??
That is because you are not paying for the service. It is a paid service and they are able to track if you are trying to do it. Solution: don't tether, or pay for it
incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?
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incredibly unhelpful.......they're sucking enough money out of us already for the data plans on both the phones and tablets, i see no reason for them to get more money out of me for a small amount of tethering. Especially if I've never come close to using even 3/4 of the data my plans allow.
any other answers out there, minus the self-righteous undertones?
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I think you found your answer buddy. You're running a non final build that isn't out yet and we all knew this was going to happen. It's like saying hey I stole a car before it was released and I want to use a pay feature for free.. Can't get much support buddy.
Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!
I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.
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I find it so funny that a lot of the same people that are rooting, loading roms, and tethering are now all snotty about it with the little "well you're stealing buddy, its unapproved, youre not holding it right, blah blah blah I'm a dirty whore" bs. That said I have still been tethering using the old methods and haven't been redirected. Search around and see if it still works for you.G Good luck.
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To be completely honest, I do not support this attitude eeither even though I am one who was just guilty of it. This is just what everything is turning into. When people ask questions that have been answered days ago (no offence in any way to OP, just trying to make a point) by the person giving us information, we tend to be annoyed be people who don't know the answer to these things because we think it is obvious and we've already answered questions on it several times. And another reason that we have so much of this is just that SO MANY threads have been made about whether or not someone could tether or why it's not working. Personally, I visit these forums several times a day because I have no life and I guess I just got sick of seeing thread after thread after thread on this subject. I apologize for my attitude
You might try the workaround that was used for the official wifi tether where you disable and re-enable 3G during a tether.
Also you can try going to the wireless tether website and download the experimental 3.0 pre10 version. That was how I got mine to work. It'll have a yellow icon.
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ur stock 3g hotspot is free w/the gb dont know if u care 2 use that theres another thread on that subject somewhere think its free until may 20th along w/the thunderbolt hotspot as a promotion
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Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.
tech_head said:
Get the TBH 3G application patch.
It changes some redirection parameters in the NVRAM.
It works. Using it now.
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where can we get the 3G patch at?
jestercing said:
where can we get the 3G patch at?
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/5156-tbh-droid-3g-hotspot-nvram-hack.html
gdogmcstyles said:
Aside from the "buddy" stuff, that was the kind of answer I'm looking for. Makes perfect sense and I had a suspicion it was something like that.
Why does everyone talk down to everyone in here? Honest questions deserve honest answers, no preaching necessary.
cstrifee999, i appreciate your input. thanks!
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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol
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I'm just sarcastic so my tone sometimes seems inappropriate. Not to defend the people on here the jump all over others, but some of us have been asked the same question hundreds of times multiple times a day. It's not your fault or any poster of a thread that asks a question. I myself have realized I am less patient. I guess the more you know about a subject you just assume everyone has a base knowledge and that if they don't some people treat others as "lower beings" or something. So basically going to XDA is like jumping into a shark tank... Sometimes you come out missing an arm.. lol
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Very well put and I agree with your feelings completely. It gets very tiring to see so many threads on the same topic
I post very infrequently, but read at least once a day. And yes you do find a threads about the same questions in here. But for me it helps, it allows me to find what I am looking for easier. The more posts the more hits you get back.
Just another point of view.
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/5156-tbh-droid-3g-hotspot-nvram-hack.html
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Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.
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Is this confirmed to work on the 588 release of gingerbread? I had it working on my 2.2.1, but I haven't tried it on the new release.
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It never worked for me on 573 or 588. However, there are others that claim success with it. It seems as though it is hit or miss.
As a matter of fact, the first time I flashed 573, wireless tether worked. When I flashed the patch, it stopped working.
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It works intermittently
I'm running the TBH NVRAM hack and it works for me. Make sure you have the 3.0-pre12 wifi tether app. I have noticed that occasionally i lose tether so toggling airplane mode seems to fix it. Good luck.
The stance that AT&T and Verizon(aka Baby Bell's) are taking with tethering is the same crud cable companies tried to pull by saying you cant have a router with multiple computers attached w/o paying them for it. It's more of the same old telcos trying to return to their glory years driven by monopoly business plans. We don't have to pay them to tether. It's a hardware feature and they don't own the hardware. They charge for data plans. We pay for the the data plans. We can use the data plan however the heck we want. They will lose this battle just like they did with wireline service.